I am a descendant of William Mariners daughter. I now live in Australia. It has been fascinating listening to his story
@marinersjourney3118
6 ай бұрын
Well HELLO! It's an honor to meet you! I am honored to read and share his story. I am truly privileged to learn my history from your ancestor. Lucky for us he was extremely educated for his age. Thank you for watching.
@stevfinau7971
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the information bro
@marinersjourney3118
2 ай бұрын
thanks for stopping by. next part coming soon
@jamestonga6281
3 ай бұрын
Right on brother, ofa atu!
@siopenikua7360
4 ай бұрын
Much love toko, really appreciate you sharing this actual intimate account by Mariner of our people. You took us closer to the truth than any anybody else. I could feel and understand what our ancestors were like. So keep that boat sailing brotha 'Ofa atu ❤❤❤💯❤️🔥
@KumiHufanga
11 ай бұрын
100% agree Mariner's account is so unique because it is an unbiased and unfiltered insight of polynesian culture. Like stated in the video this was before the heavy influence of western society on polynesian culture.
@marinersjourney3118
11 ай бұрын
Ch 3 should be out Monday. Thanks for watching. Please share. Malo. O42
@umutangata
4 ай бұрын
Read this book last year. Great read! Shoutout my pops home island #FoaUluEfua 😂 #Tangulu
@sequoiamelefine5914
11 ай бұрын
Theres an private island here in Hawaii we’re they still speak Hawaiian . When they speak they use T and pronounce it like D just like Tongans. I think the grass they have him to wear in Tonga is the Sisi Lou si. Tonga s still wear them Totau when they faiva. I think either sisi lou si they gave him to wear or a mana fau. Thanks for your work. Good for our young generation
@marinersjourney3118
11 ай бұрын
Yes exactly. And he describes it more later also. Thank you for the insight very helpful for the discussion
@josephtonga9528
5 ай бұрын
Ni’ihau I believe is the place they keep the original use of interchangeable T and K
@josephtonga9528
5 ай бұрын
Near kuai
@hunnygirldubstreet
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@asusorion4756
11 ай бұрын
By the way Bro, I I'm a big fan of history When I came across you page here I got shivers down my Timbers and Goose Bumps cos here was the story I had so enjoyed reading as an 11 year old from NZ sent back to live in Tonga With my Auntie who was a Librarian at Liahona ( heard ur dad was also ? My Auntie was Temaleti ), I Identified with it because on my Dads side He is English from a long line of Sailors and I'm pretty fair and was a bit different and a novelty living in the village because I look and act Palagi. Then I learnt how to speak Tongan from speaking with the local kids and learnt the Tongan ways now I understand and live in both cultures . So Thank you my bro for Making this site , I also admire you're depth of knowledge on the subject and you show a greater understanding of the events and how they fit into the bigger picture historically and how they apply to us these days which is quite rare in someone so young and normally comes with many years of research and the wisdom of old age.
@marinersjourney3118
11 ай бұрын
Thank you. My dad studied information and library science at BYU Hawaii from 76 to 82 then byu Provo 82 to 86 then worked at Liahona, Tonga 86 to 88 before returning to America. He found the books while at school and my brother's and I found them in 2010 and read them at the same time. I'm glad you like it, we all felt it should be shared. We lived in Matahau 86 to 88. Thank you for your following and sharing. Chapter 3 coming soon. Ofa atu toko.
@infinitearoha4172
4 ай бұрын
🇹🇴Tongan Greetings-cheek to cheek then simultaneously inhale ( Inhaling each each other’s Spirit )🇹🇴 🇳🇿Maori Greetings-3rd 👁️ to 3rd 👁️ ( forehead to forehead) simultaneously Inhale each other’s spirit🇳🇿
@davetukuafu7286
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your videos!! I've read the book and agree with you 100% it is unique because it's the only account we have of our culture from before it was changed by Western influence. Don't pay attention to negative comments, your recount of the book is spot on, the additional info is very informative. Thank you.
@revdrmaafupalu
9 ай бұрын
Thanks mate, really enjoyed your storytelling ability
@andrewlangi2442
4 ай бұрын
Love what you’re doing. The K for the T sound MIGHT derive from the Hawaiians sacrificing their anterior teeth (incisors) in the death of someone close to them. Ellis reports this practice was common among most of the men. This MAY result in a lisp and phonetically changing their K into a T. When this practice of tooth ablation ceased with introduction of Christianity the pronunciation MAY have changed their pronunciation of words. So in an indirect way did Christianity impact their words. Ellis says this practice of tooth ablation ended by 1823 so it fits your time frame. Ma’u ofa lahi atu
@umutangata
2 ай бұрын
I’ve read a theory the Hawaiian language was made easier for the palangi to speak changing the “t” to “k” & the “ng” to just “n”. Examples are Tamehameha to Kamehameha, Taua’i to Kaua’i, Tonga to Kona, tangata to kanaka, etc.
@JoeSmith-xi5bb
9 ай бұрын
Keep it coming great videos and educational
@ofafaiva-siale5762
7 ай бұрын
Great stuff. Keep up the fantastic work😊
@user-xv7no1wk5o
8 ай бұрын
I'm from Koulo and we have a cemetery it's belong to this white people and we call em PAPALANGI ! or white people !
@Levai_vera676
11 ай бұрын
I think they smelt each other when greeting each to smell what LOLO they came from. Because LOLO is unique to each village on most occasions .. or so I was told by the old ladies in the family
@tiutech3994
11 ай бұрын
I’m BEGGING for chapter 3. I am loving this. Showing my family, they just have bad attention spans. Loved the animations in this video, nice touch big bro.
@marinersjourney3118
11 ай бұрын
Thank you. Yes. Like and share we'll get through this together
@kingtaika1757
11 ай бұрын
Toko2 Thank you for this channel , I knew you and Asa use to have open discussions at the mix .. I read this book a few time and this should be a movie .
@marinersjourney3118
11 ай бұрын
Absolutely. I'm glad you like it. I'm getting better at this thing and hopefully make it more entertaining. Ch.3 here soon. Please share toks. Malo O42
@Weedy99
3 ай бұрын
We all cuzzy anyway 👌🏽👌🏽
@originalclaymoreboy728
4 ай бұрын
Toou mate means your death in Avaiki/Rarotonga.
@originalclaymoreboy728
4 ай бұрын
From what I heard to the hawaiians the tongan islands was known as 'kona kapu' the forbidden south to them that area was well known for killing then eating their enemies a hawaiian chief sailed their looking for his son or grandson witnessed what was going on in tonga he outlawed any hawaiian to sail to tonga he forbade it thus the name 'kona kapu'. So that could gave been why them hawaiians on board was warning him as that's probably what they heard back in Hawaii them hawaiians probably never ventured that far from home anyways other then the ones that were already there 😂 but I'm not saying I believe that story but I've head a few of them saying that. And yes hawaiians spoke with the letter 'T' back in the days but as most polynesian languages the Europeans corrupted it.
@originalclaymoreboy728
4 ай бұрын
Sorry toko if what I said don't make sense. I type too fast to even worry about grammar.
@marinersjourney3118
4 ай бұрын
@@originalclaymoreboy728 lol no worries. i understood it. and you change the k's in kona kapu and you get what we call tonga today which is tonga tapu. interesting insight thank you
@umutangata
2 ай бұрын
Interesting story thank you for sharing that insight. I know the village my mother’s dad side is from in Tonga (Fo’ui) ate people back in the day 😂 #FouiUmuTangata
@TV-ek7us
11 ай бұрын
Samoa changed their T to k too. The every day Samoan language uses k but the proper way to speak uses the T.
@TheMoanaWay
8 ай бұрын
We didn’t change it to K. The proper way is to speak with the T, but the only reason we speak with Ks is because it’s the lazy/easier way
@lisiatepalu7737
11 ай бұрын
Thankyou for doing a History so we learn and know Thankyou again 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@marinersjourney3118
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching. I really appreciate it. Ch. 3 coming next week. Please share. Malo O42
@marinersjourney3118
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching. Ch.3 next week. Please share. Malo. O42
@99foki
11 ай бұрын
this is very interesting. thank u toko
@Levai_vera676
11 ай бұрын
The way I see Polynesian languages is how I see America and the UK and their many accents … some people in America can’t even understand other Americans from other places …. Oceania is like a continent of water … so it makes sense we all the same race of human, however with time and distance, accents arose and further drove each group of people into their own classification or nation etc .. I know that doesn’t sound professional .. but hope yous get what I mean
@marinersjourney3118
11 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@ethanpeeler3147
11 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. I am a history nerd and am palangi but my girlfriend is from Tongatapu and she shared this with me. Looking forward to chapter 3.
@marinersjourney3118
11 ай бұрын
Thank you much. Really appreciate it toko. Ch.3 coming soon. Tell the lady love hi and thank you. Please share. O42
@sunshinemovers1071
11 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work toko
@marinersjourney3118
11 ай бұрын
Thank you. I appreciate it very much. Working on the next. Please share O42
@akav75
11 ай бұрын
Bring on chapter 3😊
@siomakihele825
11 ай бұрын
TuiTui was also Finau's Grandpa. Coincidence
@marinersjourney3118
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for input and thanks for watching. Please share Malo. O42
@siomakihele825
11 ай бұрын
Vakafuhu, Finau's brother is my greats of Grandpa.
@veitogo1407
10 ай бұрын
Lov this. Most of the stuff circulating around is 65% bs
@user-ml5tp8lc4v
11 ай бұрын
We locked in toko
@marinersjourney3118
11 ай бұрын
Malo toko. Please share. working on next chapter now. Ofaz
@dirkdiggler8794
11 ай бұрын
Youu answered your own question. The Hawaiians said it with a K n Tongans with a T, "no one" changed it, it's called pronunciation...
@jasparramirez9554
11 ай бұрын
I have Hawaiian blood and from what I have read is that during Kamehamehas time they spoke the true language of Hawaii. After Kamehameha died the missionaries came they found a people that gave up their Gods and they passed knowledge through chants. The missionaries made a written language and taught them how to read (only royalty). During this time Hawaiians lost who they were. I believe Hawaiians were a lot like other Polynesians in the way they think, talk and customs.
@marinersjourney3118
11 ай бұрын
I believe the same
@KumiHufanga
11 ай бұрын
Tongan and Hawaiian similarities: - Deities such as Tangaloa/Kanaloa, Maui, Maui 'Atalanga/Maui Akalana, Maui Kisikisi/Maui Ki'iki'i and Hina - The chief Lo'au who is big in tongan history is believed to actually be Hawaiian chief La'au this is a theory from Futa Helu - Very similar Solar Calendars used by both cultures - Petroglyphs found in Tonga and Hawaii are very similar - Names of places such as Eua/Ewa, Havaiki/Hawai'i, VaikoKahana/Kahana
@KumiHufanga
11 ай бұрын
Also there is Tongan history of Hawaiians coming to Tonga for sporting events like javelin throwing, wrestling, and canoe racing
@IPosoa
11 ай бұрын
I grew up in Hawaii. I remembered learning that the missionaries changed the Hawaiian language and at some point in time, it was banned for a while. They had difficulty with pronunciations, so they substituted a letter with another. T with a K: tangata/ kanaka, Tonga/Kona, talo/kalo. Notice they dropped the "ng" in words and just used the "n" instead. To this day, the palangis still have a hard time pronouncing the "ng". They also replaced the V with a W in the language. That's why Ewa is pronounced Eva, Hawai'i is Havai'i. I mean it could have been just a different dialect in the language, but im leaning to the palangis with having corrupted the Hawaiian language, they could of sounded like us...maybe.😊
@marinersjourney3118
11 ай бұрын
@@IPosoa I'm learning as I read comments like this also. Reading between the lines and connecting the dots. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it. Please share. Malo. O42
@MatelauInu
11 ай бұрын
Malo aupito Tokoua.. Tonga was not Colonized! William Mariners is a testimony of that and to a people like in those days were uncivilized and fakapouli.. He witnessed the sacrifices of babies and killing of commoners (tu’a) by the Houeiki like Finau..
@BoosieBadazz-24
11 ай бұрын
I wonder how the hawaiians understood the tongans?
@marinersjourney3118
11 ай бұрын
Question is how similar was the language for them to understand? A dialect perhaps?
@BoosieBadazz-24
11 ай бұрын
@@marinersjourney3118 Maybe. The Hawaiian language I don't understand it's funny cause I'm Tongan too, but there's some words are the same as Tongans but like you said before that the Hawaiians had names start we "T" back then. Now everything pronounced with "k"
@Levai_vera676
11 ай бұрын
The way I see Polynesian languages is how I see America and the UK and their many accents … some people in America can’t even understand other Americans from other places …. Oceania is like a continent of water … so it makes sense we all the same race of human, however with time and distance, accents arose and further drove each group of people into their own classification or nation etc .. I know that doesn’t sound professional .. but hope yous get what I mean
@EcEryda
11 ай бұрын
The ppl insulting you need to put in their own work if they feel so strong about you being wrong. Keep up the great work toko
@marinersjourney3118
11 ай бұрын
Lol I'm not worried. I'm doing a book report on my history. Learn now or learn later but eventually they'll come around. Thanks for the support
@Levai_vera676
11 ай бұрын
HAWAI’I … is SAVAI’I … Hawaiians use a H like Tongans instead of a H that Samoans use. However Hawaiians use the K like when Samoans pronounce some T’s like a k. Savai’i .. Hawai’i .. and with the Tongan language we use a “K” where ever Samoans and Hawaiians use an apostrophe … so savai’i in Tongan language translates to HAWAIKI … sound familiar? Savai’i could also mean JAVA IKI .. In Tongan TAMA means guy, male, man … TAMA IKI … TAMAIKI means children. So SAVAI’I … could be SMALL JAVA … java i’i or java IKI … Food for thought.
@Toahola
2 ай бұрын
In Tongan it would Ha’aVaihi
@asusorion4756
11 ай бұрын
Shiver me Timbers Toko they'd Keel haul you if you called them Pirates , Bucaneers are what the 'Port au Prince' Not Pirates. Pirates are lawless theives who have no code of conduct - Take all, Kill all, Rape all. Bucaneers are the !7th century version of what today in warfare we call 'Commerce Raiders' which Generally is a merchant ship with hidden Artillery guns, Torpedos etc that sails the oceans during wartime attacking the merchant ships of any enemy nations . This role is also taken up in most modern navies these days by Submarines. Bucanners have the Kings permission to cause havoc on the seas in any way fit to disrupt the enemy usually being allowed to keep any good they "seize" of enemy ships.The follow the normal laws of morality and have a lot of restraints preventing them from Taking all, Killing all, and raping all . "Port au Prince' Doesn't Sound like a Royal Navy warship name to me and was probably an ex enemy warship / Merchant man taken in combat and now used to Further his Majesties War efforts .
@jimmytuipulotu191
11 ай бұрын
💯🎯💚❤️💛.
@FAMBILLIIION
11 ай бұрын
Malo aupito Tokoua
@Levai_vera676
11 ай бұрын
MALO AUPITO!
@wecanwatersports4151
8 ай бұрын
PCC, Polynesian Christian Convert's. Did this only happen in Ha wa i'i? Or all over the pacific? My ohana has a (C.H.E.N) Christian Hawaiian English Name. We were here in the islands when Kaahumanu did her pilgrimage in the island's in1800's. I wonder what other C.H.E.N look like and do people know they have a C.H.E.N? 🫵😊
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