Yeah the windstar swap involves way more modifying. I did that one first, good improvement over stock. Tried the f-150 manifold and it made a bigger improvement, top end felt the same, but the torque is nuts. And much easier to install but had to chop a hood to close it, because even if i remove the Idle air control valve the manifold is still 3 inches above the hood line. But after porting F-150 manifold and it making the difference it does, sub 6 second 0-60, cant really see myself going back to the Windstar. But i can say our stock manifold is trash.
@itsnotan8
4 жыл бұрын
Very nice man. That's badass. I never considered the f150 intake because I wanted to keep the stock hood. I am interested in porting the heads as well as lower intake, but for the time being it'll say as it is since it's a daily driver.
@TheVulcan
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah there are trade offs windstar manifold, difficult to intstall, limited portability, fits under stock hood. F150 manny easier to install, only modding i did besides hood is PCV hose, and making the tps wire longer. need new hood(drove without hood for 3 days like a honda boy until i could cut it) and you can port the hell out of it. I dont think porting heads will do to much because of the 2 intake ports per cylinder ive seen dynos online of it not doing alot. It already has great airflow. The only thing worth porting is the lower manifold, and upper. What's holding it back is the cam. The stock cam i believe is the same one from the 150hp single port 3.8L they just slaped on higher flow heads. Thats why the most common mods on these are cams.
@feellnfroggy
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheVulcan Vulcan if you are after power and looking to keep it cheap, Check out the Thunderbird Supercoupe M90 Eaton swap. Relatively direct swap, by relatively I mean as direct as the f150 manifold.
@itsnotan8
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheVulcan I didn't realize that f150 intake was that much easier. No hood is roadkill style haha, helps with over heating. I might pick up a junkyard lower intake just to mess around with porting. I did a little research and I found the single port cam is slightly better than the split port cam, and the 4.2 f150 cam is better than all of them.
@itsnotan8
4 жыл бұрын
@@feellnfroggy Those have single port heads, ours have split port. Plus ours have returnless fuel systems and those have return systems. It would be perfect for a 94-98 Mustang though.
@nickschirmer7511
2 жыл бұрын
Not too shabby. I love the car and what you've done so far very interesting how to compare videos around KZitem especially being hard to find V6 channels. This is super helpful being that I went from a V8 F150 to this 2004 white V6 40th anniversary which is completely different and new to me. But also nice to actually see and hear similar differences that I've discovered with my car I have now set up be, and to find out what I can do more to improve when the time comes. My wife tells me to start a channel for my mustang and or few projects to get me away from explaining it to her in grave detail when shes completely clueless coming from a classic car father lol. I know there's a lot that goes into that kind of work to do that sort of lengthy trial and error and hours of editing. But have piqued the interest and or thoughts about doing something for the V6 era Mustangs because it is extremely hard to find any sort of true yet not boring examples or absolute cheezee and off wish. Just finding time to start somewhere is expensive when having a household of 6 not including pets. So with all that rambling on being said hats off to you sir, hope the good work continues. And note aside has anyone found, to my knowledge any 3.9 emblems? Or any kind, not wish knock offs or autozone peel n stick bs? I cannot fathom why there wasnt one in the first place, but why hasn't someone made one already? Or is it just me?
@feellnfroggy
4 жыл бұрын
BTW, gonna subscribe. Not many v6 channels out there. I would love to see some build vids and how to's on these cars. GT's nice, but overrated.
@riccardojohnston9516
Жыл бұрын
Thank you I’ve watched this video 100 times already I’m almost done I need to tap holes for the charcoal filter in the HVAC line and I should be good to go!!! Can’t wait good shit man🦾🙏🏾☝🏾
@RafaVitor
2 жыл бұрын
i love your channel man, fell in love with this 94k mile 01 model i just got, first car i got myself and it feels great
@newmexico21c.d.s55
3 жыл бұрын
I have a lot respect for people that design or upgrade stuff like this good job. But it seems like to much work and time effort for 10 or 15 HP more but that's just me good luck on your project and I think you did awesome work thanks for sharing. SWT...
@itsnotan8
3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it, man. Yeah it was a lot of work for small power gain, but I think how it broadened the torque band made it worth it to me.
@edgarcorrea7866
3 жыл бұрын
Super helpful info thank you so much I don’t got a Mustang but I’m putting a v6 into my Miata so this will probably be my only option intake wise 😂
@chriscole9621
Жыл бұрын
youre putting a ford 3.8 v6 into a miata? I cant imagine choosing this engine over others you could put in the miata or even just boosting the stock engine. I mean the only reason id see that being a good idea is if you have a miata shell and an old 3.8 sitting around
@edgarcorrea7866
Жыл бұрын
@Chris Cole my miata engine blew and I found a 3.8 for 400 with the trans. I've regretted it ever since 😂
@chriscole9621
Жыл бұрын
@@edgarcorrea7866 Did you get it in the car and running?
@edgarcorrea7866
Жыл бұрын
@Chris Cole ya everything's in engine trans diff but I gotta wire it. It all has to be custom so it's been awhile since I'm knee deep in wiring diagrams
@chriscole9621
Жыл бұрын
@@edgarcorrea7866 could you just take a mustang harness and strip it down of stuff you don't need and run it with a megasquirt or something?
@randytrivitt6539
Жыл бұрын
I like your KZitemr name!! It'sNotAn8 !! LOL!! I am indefinitely going to put a different rear end gear in my 3.8 Also a portmatch!! I like the idea you did with the intake also I'm going to do away with the hydraulic power steering and upgrade to and EPS and also I have a sunroof in my car I'm going to do away with the AC to help gain more power and do away with the clutch fan input electric fans in and where I have it automatic transmission I'm going to keep a manual radiator and go with a transmission cooler for the transmission fluid!! And do away with mufflers and put a drone delete cat back on it!! Hopefully we'll get more torque and power out of the little 3.8 V6 They actually have just as much horsepower as the old 1978 Cobra 2 with 302 139HP but it's crazy that the old 1978 cover twos only weighed 2,990lb and these 4th generations mustang weigh over 4,600 lb the old cober 2 had an OEM 0 to 60 around 6.3 seconds with the c4 transmission!!😮 😅😊😂
@jackiebrown1108
2 жыл бұрын
did a windstar swap on my 99 mustang, it looks great and runs better.
@murraymadness4674
13 күн бұрын
Can the intake be reversed so the input is in the back? Doing a jetboat and don't want things sticking out front, have room over the jet for intake. I am going 3.8 because it is ~150lbs lighter than my iron 5.0 at 220hp.and a plastic intake should save another 20lbs.
@madmod
7 ай бұрын
We used a 65mm tb off a 96 Gt mustang with the windstar manifold.
@Tacticoolpapi
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Clear crisp information. Don't even have a mustang ( yet, new edge gt coming soon ), but found the mod interesting.
@brettcoker9776
3 жыл бұрын
gt's come with v8s so this doesnt apply to a gt
@itsnotan8
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! But like Brett said, this wouldn't apply to the v8s.
@calatan0
3 жыл бұрын
You could have gotten 1 if not two oil catch cans. I noticed that as well and once I put it on the oil catch can on the driver side I noticed a lot of oil was caught within the first two days then the oil accumulation was drastically decreased. I put an oil catch can on the intake box side and there has never been oil there. Neither of the cans have a breather on it but I think the one with the air box needs a catch can with a breather filter on top just a guess gonna but a cheap one see if it performs better. I have used just breather filters they work nothing wrong with it but the oil catch can is better possibly. You can easily delete your egr by going to the hardware store and buying a pipe that fits I think it’s 3/8in not sure maybe a 1/4in and get a cap to block it off and as for where the screws go I ignored them it was on a previous car but if it’s a vacuum it wouldn’t hurt getting a vacuum manifold and diverting it into the crankcase as a main source of vacuum.
@itsnotan8
3 жыл бұрын
Cool. Thanks for your input. Yeah, I've thought about getting an oil catch can before but never did. There are no name, exact copies of Mishimoto catch cans on ebay/amazon for 20-30 bucks. I think those would definitely be worth looking at. I thought about putting breathers on the valve covers instead too, but again just never did haha. I opted to keep the egr because I'd like to keep the 2-3mpg and help keep the cylinder temps down. I have a problem with pinging/detonation in the past.
@-Nazareth-
3 жыл бұрын
i’m new to the car scene and i’m trying to learn everything so forgive my question lmao, but did this seem to give you more power
@alexyoungberg5232
3 жыл бұрын
*It's off a minivan so it actually decreased the horsepower. But the car now fits 8 people plus cargo.* 👍
@alexyoungberg5232
3 жыл бұрын
@Paul Klein yes but the seven extra people throws off the power to weight ratio..
@mr.asparagus2355
3 жыл бұрын
@@alexyoungberg5232 Of course it does, but I don't see 7 people sitting in his Mustang. Do you?
@mr.asparagus2355
4 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I want to do this, but my area tests for emissions so I need to keep the EGR, IAC, etc. I have a scoop on mine so I can hide the hole :) I was wondering, how difficult is it to keep the IAC and EGR? Do I need any speciality parts? I can do basic metalwork so fabbing a bracket or simple spacer is not a problem for me.
@itsnotan8
4 жыл бұрын
My car would pass emissions if I didn't remove the cats. The iac is the thing with the big blue hose attached to it. It needs to be relocated, all you need is some kind of thick enough metal you can drill and tap holes in to mount the iac to, and be able to screw in a nipple or hose barb for the inlet and outlet of the iac(take a look at my Windstar update video to see how I changed it). I used 1/8in thick by 2in wide aluminum bar stock. I wish I used 1/4in. The egr I also kept. You need the Windstar's egr bracket to keep it. The bracket is lower so it'll fit under the intake. The egr tube coming from the exhaust will have to be heated cherry red and bent to push it lower to it's new mounting spot. Heads up, it'll break easily.
@edwardpudwill1603
4 жыл бұрын
You are correct it is the same 3.8 as a fwd windstar with one huge difference, the bell housing are smaller so it is a different block altogether.... Ask me how I know😬
@larrywelser9088
3 жыл бұрын
And the crank rotates a different direction
@Futureguitarist15
3 жыл бұрын
What parts of the windstar intake did you use? Just the center? Where did you get the upper? Everything I'm finding online looks completely different. Thanks for the video!
@user-ue5xb4th5i
4 жыл бұрын
Do u need a angled throttle body spacer ?? Or is it just for clearance of the hood ?? I just cant seem to find the angled throttle body spacer. Can i do it without the spacer
@joerutkowsky3261
2 жыл бұрын
If you can get one the thunderbird sc m 90 supercharger bolts on just as easy only modification it a pulley bracket. As far as I know. And you get way more hp gain.
@itsnotan8
2 жыл бұрын
Nope. That would only work on 94-98 Mustangs with single port heads. 99-04 3.8s have split port heads.
@derekdeddo6847
Жыл бұрын
Did you cut the old pcp by brake blaster off or what did you do with that small red hose by fire wall if you rerouted the pcp for the front
@albertoiliebeavilalaudewog1791
3 жыл бұрын
This mod give 10-15 hp, 20 lb/f and a special sound at 6000rpm
@BMWiE-lz3nu
2 жыл бұрын
Is this a common mod to do on these motors? Common enough that the intakes are worth money? There is a very similar mod that can be done on my BMW motor that makes intakes for 92-96 motors worth $250 bux. Only for me it's so common there's even aftermarket support that makes it a "plug and play"(minus the tune) modification. But I'll def add these to my list of valuable parts I look for when I'm at the junkyard if they are worth the time.
@sirliftsalot1154
Жыл бұрын
Forget the 10 hp intake nightmare upgrade. Just install the pretty blue bottle in the back of the car with a 100 hp shot of juice and be done.
@allensailers4055
4 жыл бұрын
Love the channel love the swap I just started my own youtube channel with my v6 mustang my question is with the windstar intake being plastic do you know of a temperature rated paint that would work on it?
@itsnotan8
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I appreciate it! I'm not sure, I have seen people paint them before but I'm not sure what they used. I would use a primer that's good for plastic and probably an engine enamel paint for the heat resistance.
@tedbear8168
5 ай бұрын
To me it looks like an f150 intake 😮
@williamrutledge216
4 жыл бұрын
I like your video and want to that with my 3.8 mustang but my question is putting that manifold on will it let me bypass the intake manifold runner control valve?
@itsnotan8
4 жыл бұрын
No. The imrc's are on the lower intake manifold. Also 99-00 Stangs don't have them.
@desmondbootle6992
Жыл бұрын
Is the valve runner control still attached to the intake manifold when you do the swap
@vmoya6631
3 жыл бұрын
You mentioned that you recommend getting a tune. Im pretty sure I didn't hear you saying you got a tune after the install. I know you like the extra torque, but you get a tune after the install? Forsure looks way better than other v6 engine on old mustangs.
@itsnotan8
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it has a tune for the intake.
@vmoya6631
3 жыл бұрын
@@itsnotan8 so im guessing you got the 10 extra horses and paid about $500 for the tune. Plus the hours needed to install the intake. Or was it something different from the tune?
@itsnotan8
3 жыл бұрын
@@vmoya6631 I paid like $20 for the intake at a junk yard, tune revision was free, and I didn't charge myself for labor. Anymore questions? I'm sure it picked up more than 10hp, but the torque it picked up across the rev range and especially on the low end made the difference.
@vmoya6631
3 жыл бұрын
@@itsnotan8 Sounds really good. Thank you for the information.
@0rvelazqu
Жыл бұрын
Would it be easier to get some junkyard heads and port them instead of this swap?
@ulisesc4388
4 жыл бұрын
do underdrive pulley make a difference
@itsnotan8
4 жыл бұрын
I don't have any, but they should. They free up 5-10hp. Common misconception is that they gain you power, but they don't. They simply just reduce the parasitic drag the accessories (water pump, alternator, etc) have on your engine.
@carleynorthcoast1915
2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to find dyno results before doing this much work. Does nobody make an aftermarket intake for the v6 mutang?
@randycarter5455
Жыл бұрын
How much taller it over stock at the runner section of Windstar intake
@oscar2v125
3 жыл бұрын
that’s tight 🤟🏾
@user-zy8yu8wp3u
5 ай бұрын
How much hp do you think you have
@chapzer6686
3 жыл бұрын
ok so im finally getting around to doing my swap, if i delete the egr is it as simple as getting a blockoff plate or is their more to it? and for the other questions what did you do to get the crown vic tb to fit? i dont want to start shaving off plastic from the manifold then realize i messed up lol.
@itsnotan8
3 жыл бұрын
A block off plate and something like a threaded cap to plug the exhaust manifold where the EGR tube attaches. The crown Vic throttle body will bolt right up. Just flipped upside down and you'll need a spacer so the linkage will clear. In my case I milled a custom angled spacer to point the throttle body down to clear the hood. The windstar intake will have an iac port protruding above the throttle body, that is what I cut off.
@brandonmacmcintee7997
2 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Got a few questions about this mod! I really would like to do it!
@brandonbatcha5837
Жыл бұрын
Do you do other cars?! I want this done to mine so bad ❤
@carlostercero2662
2 жыл бұрын
Hey bud, I noticed your throttle body has two cables, but my v6 only has 1 cable. So what's the extra cable for yours? Is it because you have a gt throttle body?
@itsnotan8
2 жыл бұрын
The cable furthest from the throttle body is for the cruise control. Does your car have cruise control?
@carlostercero2662
2 жыл бұрын
@@itsnotan8 no cruise control on mine, Ah so it's a cruise control cable. Thanks bud!
@1028entllc
11 ай бұрын
Did this make the car faster
@brandonmacmcintee7997
2 жыл бұрын
Where did you put the iac
@derekdeddo6847
Жыл бұрын
I have more questions do you still have any time to talk?
@jasonpooler6811
4 жыл бұрын
Do you just buy the upper intake manifold or do you need to buy the lower too.. my bad still learning haha
@itsnotan8
4 жыл бұрын
Just the upper. The lowers are basically the same so you don't need it.
@jasonpooler6811
4 жыл бұрын
Wesley Young oh and I was also considering to do the one from the f150 instead but I’m trying to choose... are the lowers the same as well or would modifications be needed
@itsnotan8
4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonpooler6811 The lowers are sightly different I believe between the Windstar and Mustang, but you don't need the Windstar's lower. The Windstar upper will bolt right up to the Mustang's lower.
@ulisesc4388
4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonpooler6811 there is a vid with a 1999 to 2000 f150 on a 01 mustang upper intake on yt
@jasonpooler6811
4 жыл бұрын
Ulises C I saw but I was debating on it cause I would most likely cut a hole in my hood cause my build is budget
@silversixcreations
4 жыл бұрын
So if u get a cowl hood u won’t need to change up the iac?
@itsnotan8
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I believe you won't. It'd probably have to be pretty big, like a 3-4in cowl hood. I'm assuming you mean the Windstar's stock iac location.
@Hillbillymafia
2 жыл бұрын
Will this work on 1998 mustangs
@edercastillo2667
2 жыл бұрын
Usaste la computadora ?
@sumpy4613
4 жыл бұрын
Can you swap a Windstar or f150 manifold onto a 98? Or is there another intake id have to use, hood clearance isn't an issue, I'm planning on getting an aftermarket one anyway
@itsnotan8
4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately no. The 94-98 3.8s have single port heads. 99-04 are split port. The good news is an Eaton M90 supercharger off of a 89-95 Thunderbird Super Coupe will.
@sumpy4613
4 жыл бұрын
Do you k ow about how much more power that'd give me after a tune?
@itsnotan8
4 жыл бұрын
@@sumpy4613 Maybe 220 at the crank? Also a pulley upgrade to turn up the boost will make more power than that.
@sumpy4613
4 жыл бұрын
Every m90 im seeing is off a gran prix 😂
@itsnotan8
4 жыл бұрын
@@sumpy4613 I don't think that will work 😂
@loganhudson9720
Жыл бұрын
Can you do this for a 97 3.8?
@omerqawi9096
3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2002 V6, would a Windstar intake from 99-04 work on it?
@lourdestoro6580
3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@georgesanchez26
4 жыл бұрын
Do you know where I can purchase this upper intake manifold? I can not find it anywhere ! 😭
@itsnotan8
4 жыл бұрын
Junkyard. 96-98 Windstar upper intake. They used to make kit but they discontinued it long ago.
@angelarmendariz8844
4 жыл бұрын
Do you need a tune.?
@itsnotan8
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's necessary, but I would highly recommend it. I ran mine for a week without a tune revision and it was fine. If you delete the EGR, then 100% you'll need a tune.
@feellnfroggy
4 жыл бұрын
@@itsnotan8 You can get away without a tune, even deleting the EGR, this mod is still within EEC parameters. But even a stock unmolested mustang will benefit from a tune.
@keemfromqueenz
4 жыл бұрын
@@feellnfroggy Unmolested..🤣😂🤭
@leslietomlin5304
3 жыл бұрын
No but it dose help
@DeeWadeSoundz
4 жыл бұрын
Where u get that intake from ? I wanna do a swap on my 2000 mustang 3.8 v6
@itsnotan8
4 жыл бұрын
Junkyard.
@saulgoodman9193
3 жыл бұрын
It's from a Ford windstar van .
@blu4.33
3 жыл бұрын
I'm swapping the 4.2 intake but my question is what fitting did you install in the cold air intake for the iac
@Ari-fi6ug
2 жыл бұрын
Will this swap work on a 1998 v6 mustang?
@itsnotan8
2 жыл бұрын
Nope. Not unless you swap to split port heads
@saulgoodman9193
3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a pain in the butt for an extra 10 hp .
@itsnotan8
3 жыл бұрын
Kinda. They used to make a kit that had everything you needed. Hp gains where there, but I'd say the torque band on the low end and all though out the rev range made it worth it to me.
@saulgoodman9193
3 жыл бұрын
@@itsnotan8 Wish the kit was still available, I saw on super six motorsports they had some ported upper intake manifolds but it comes as a kit with a cam and I think ported heads , but it's like 3k . It's beyond my mechanical abilities lol . I'm just a bolt on guy , thanks for the video by the way . I shouldn't have left a negative comment without letting you know that I appreciate the information you provided and I respect the work that you put into it . 👌 Hope all is well with your project 🙏
@user-ue5xb4th5i
4 жыл бұрын
What gasket did you use ??? Can u help me out ?? I cant seem to find on online
@itsnotan8
4 жыл бұрын
I used the 96-98 Windstar gaskets.
@itsnotan8
4 жыл бұрын
They look like this rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F392399245924
@user-ue5xb4th5i
4 жыл бұрын
So those are the only gaskets you used throughout the whole process ? Also were there any vaccum lines u needed to relocate ? Im in canada so i am removing my egr valve as i dont really need it. But i plan on placing the iac valve ontop and changing my hood so it fits
@itsnotan8
4 жыл бұрын
@@user-ue5xb4th5i I did cut out cork gaskets for the throttle body and angled spacer. If you're gonna get an after market hood and use the Windstar iac on top of the manifold, you'll have to use the Windstar throttle body and gasket. The Windstar throttle body has inlet port for the iac. If the hood clears the iac, you definitely won't need the angled spacer, it's just for clearance. Not necessarily relocate, but find a place to plug into the manifold, just the ones I said in the video. The two on the passenger side, one for the HVAC blend doors and charcoal filter in the fender. On the driver's side the brake booster, pcv valve and fuel pressure regulator(the little black box on the fuel rail).
@user-ue5xb4th5i
4 жыл бұрын
I have the 65mm bbk throttle body that wont work??
@taylorclark1082
4 ай бұрын
You gotta do the bottom too or u get zero gains
@pappynotpapi2070
3 жыл бұрын
If anyone has a upper windstar intake for sale, let me know. Thanks!
@TreeclimberZ75
3 жыл бұрын
Would this mod work in a 98 3.8?
@itsnotan8
3 жыл бұрын
No. 98 is a single port intake.
@taylorclark1082
4 ай бұрын
This is jank as all hell. Not worth the time, effort, modification, relocation, and if u look the bottom intake ports on the lower manifold are tiny as balls, u can only get as much flow as they can handle and the engineers clearly put stock intake over ur windstar for many reasons. Thats why they have the degree. Somt redo the wheel
@americanmuscle3090
8 ай бұрын
No thx!
@libidotorpedo69
2 жыл бұрын
17:14 more like Goes to eBay for there Go and blow parts
@ngldany5161
2 жыл бұрын
Can I contact you ? I kinda need help on my swap
@TheOuterBoi
3 жыл бұрын
will this work for a 3.9 2004 v6? 96-98 windstar 3.8 intake
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