Back in the day, Indira Gandi was faced with calls to 'do something' about attacks on women on the street in India. It was suggested to her that a curfew of women (to 'protect them') might be necessary. She replied: "Why a curfew on women? It is the men causing the attacks, let's put a curfew on men." That was the last that idea was heard of.
@reveivl
2 жыл бұрын
@Adam Riddle Back under your rock please.
@Saje3D
2 жыл бұрын
@Adam Riddle Hahaha. And it’s such a good job we’ve done at it too.
@Saje3D
2 жыл бұрын
@Adam Riddle Honestly, how do you get this stupid? Massive brain trauma?
@patthewoodboy
2 жыл бұрын
@Adam Riddle good troll ,. go back under your bridge
@gabrysiasobis5108
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@1969Kismet
2 жыл бұрын
Winking at a train. That's the sanest advice I've heard so far on the subject.
@joymattches8644
2 жыл бұрын
Shortly after Sara's death, our head teacher made an announcement in college, and ended it saying " don't worry, this type of thing dosen't happen very often"
@abbiexx1953
2 жыл бұрын
@@jaydamalley3398 this is insane. 1st of all it is so disrespectful to insinuate that if Sara was ‘aware’ she would’ve been fine. She took every precaution women are told to take, messaging people she knew when she left, walking with her phone in hand, bright clothing. 2nd men are victims of violence from other men. That is why the statistic is so high. Yes there are women who are violent against men and domestic violence against men is a serious and stigmatised problem. But you can’t sit there and say ‘we expect men to take care of themselves and the same should go for women’ because that only shows you are a part of the problem. Rather than making the world safer, you’d rather victim blame. In this country a woman can’t own pepper spray or carry a self defence weapon like a taser or knuckle dusters, it’s illegal. So what are women supposed to do when attacked by a man, someone who is biologically stronger than them in most cases? That’s why violence against women gets more attention than violence against men. Because women are very rarely the perpetrators and are very often the victims. Because violence against women is more likely to result in a sexual assault than violence against men. Because women are biologically less likely to effectively defend themselves against a man than another man could. Because violence against women has been a systematic issue for centuries and instead of listening to women and victims, men like you decide to invalidate the struggle by bringing up men’s issues instead to distract from women’s problems.
@michiveritas1420
2 жыл бұрын
Often enough for the victim and their families...
@dondoodat
Жыл бұрын
How often does it happen ? Usually only once. - I guess you need to reassure children but it was hardly a tactful thing to say.
@censusgary
Жыл бұрын
Presumably, it only happens once. There’s an apocryphal story that a passenger asked a flight attendant, “Miss, how often does this kind of plane crash?” Reassuringly, she answered “Only once.”
@IvyCowboy
11 ай бұрын
@@abbiexx1953 You deserve a standing ovation for this.
@Thromboc
7 ай бұрын
Love Nish basking in the glow of "Actually you're not a prick"
@siramea
2 жыл бұрын
some of the people in the comments, are really proving the points made in the video.
@Saje3D
2 жыл бұрын
They always do.
@SpookyFox1000
2 жыл бұрын
What ? ………..unfunny leftie wankers ?
@mariag.8242
2 жыл бұрын
I loved the advice that if a lone cop stops you, you should run to a house. Someone should tell Boris running from cops tends to end badly.
@psyanide1603
2 жыл бұрын
Well, I mean, Boris did run into a fridge to escape some frisky reporters, maybe he meant they should take refuge in the household's fridge until the danger has passed.
@christoase3771
2 жыл бұрын
@@psyanide1603 The police would then shout 'Freeze!'
@aecides3203
2 жыл бұрын
He also may want to look into how often police reports of "Lone person disappears in a complete strangers house" ends well for the lone person involved. And for anyone wondering, I'm saying 'person', because while it's far more likely to end badly for a woman, that is just really bad advice to give ANYONE, even the many men who have to suffer the daily horror of being victims of misogyny. I know I personally can't even walk down the street in boot cut jeans and a jacket without some random woman shouting "Nice whaps love!" at me and offering to knock me up in a back alley. But, I endure by holding onto the dream that, one day, I'll make it to a cash point without anyone offering to leave a deposit in my non-existent uterus. Hell, one day maybe I'll even make it to a cash point without accepting.
@taiyoqun
2 жыл бұрын
@@aecides3203 I am so sorry to hear that. Men are victims of misogyny every day. I hope some day we can trap every woman on a room in their house to avoid this kinds of things happening so often. Maybe even the kitchen. I don't know, it might work out for everyone. But I definitely agree with the idea of an app tracking lone women at night, so we can all avoid them and be safer
@distantcoff7391
2 жыл бұрын
Rachel delivers a great variety of emotions as she explains how mysogynistic society actually is.
@distantcoff7391
2 жыл бұрын
@Adam Riddle opposite day 👍 nice 1
@michiveritas1420
2 жыл бұрын
I/we inhale dessicated flakes of faeces - well, depends on where we live (apparently). See... Mexico/Mexico City, Afghanistan/Kabul, etc😂
@michiveritas1420
2 жыл бұрын
I/we inhale dessicated flakes of faeces - well, depends on where we live (apparently). See... Mexico/Mexico City, Afghanistan/Kabul, etc😂
@StimParavane
Жыл бұрын
Women claim to be oppressed by a society that caters to their every whim.
@jadedbrad
Жыл бұрын
Rachel's dialogue is well written. And I wish I worked with someone who says my name as much as Rachel says "Nish".
@ThaRealMother
2 жыл бұрын
Omg i was shocked i thought it been cancelled, dear god im so happy that dave remade it ^^ puh lucky us
@hoebywan
2 жыл бұрын
Awww I welled up when she said he wasn't a prick.
@censusgary
Жыл бұрын
That really is about the nicest thing she’s said to Nish on the show.
@thepochade5992
2 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly delivered horrendous truth 👏😥
@StimParavane
Жыл бұрын
It's a lot of lies.
@lancelotdulac6076
Жыл бұрын
I just love Nish' acting and I can't help laughing looking at his facial expressions 😂😂😂
@hannacook859
2 жыл бұрын
The people that gave this thumbs down should probably have their basements searched for kidnapped women
@bubar1000
2 жыл бұрын
Mhmm. If there's no-one there, their internet history and hard drives.
@willhay6148
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they just think she's an hypocrite. The locker room banter is a case in point. As if women don't have derogatory conversations about men. I have seven sisters. I'm appalled by how they ridicule and belittle men. Even the nicest of women do this. The nicest of men don't.
@jo18533
2 жыл бұрын
Start the search in Rotherham.
@hannacook859
2 жыл бұрын
@@willhay6148 Yes. Poor men are being discriminated against. In that case, let's have a win-win, women will get to be equal and poor men would get treated better, just like women do. Instead of asking to treat women like men, Let's treat men like women.
@hannahdyson7129
2 жыл бұрын
@@willhay6148 Yes ghe nicest of men do that . They join in " banter and day nothing . They dont do anything to prevent ot
@censusgary
Жыл бұрын
I used to tell my students they shouldn’t be afraid to look up words in the dictionary. UK government ministers obviously need the same advice.
@Jo-nr6vx
2 жыл бұрын
I Love her! Spot on with all her comments x thanks for uploading
@AndrewSpencer69
2 жыл бұрын
Delivered with humour, but to be frank it's not a laughing matter.
@iseriver3982
2 жыл бұрын
Dominic raab was unintentionally right though, misogyny is wrong when it's a woman against a man. 😂
@korisx
2 жыл бұрын
True! :D
@AlanHope2013
2 жыл бұрын
@@korisx Except that's not what the word means. Words don't just mean what you think they mean.
@korisx
2 жыл бұрын
@@AlanHope2013 it's like you're pointing out the joke and missing it at the same time.
@clown-eating-hippo
2 жыл бұрын
@@AlanHope2013 You do not understand the usage of the word 'wrong' in this context...
@dondoodat
Жыл бұрын
When it's a woman against a man it is Misandry, not Misogyny.
@caitlinmorrell8021
2 жыл бұрын
Wink at a train 😂😂😂😂😂 Fixes everything!
@censusgary
Жыл бұрын
For my fellow Americans, I’ll point out that “knackered” in this context means “very tired.”
@DavidPatMathis81
2 жыл бұрын
She has some of the best timing in comedy right now.
@sheridad64
2 жыл бұрын
Sent me cold while I had to laugh, cos if I don't laugh I cry.
@nothingtoseehere7554
10 күн бұрын
one of rachel’s best pieces
@nealjroberts4050
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely spot on.
@stephjovi
2 жыл бұрын
So late night mash is exactly like the Mash report. Love it
@EmBoulton
2 жыл бұрын
Mash Report got cancelled by the BBC, but then Dave picked it up. I'm guessing that they weren't allowed to keep the same name though, hence why it's now Late Night Mash 😊
@modithorson7484
Жыл бұрын
@@EmBoulton Dave, and the UKTV network is owned by the BBC. The BBC didn't cancel it and Dave picked it up, the Beeb handed it to Dave who then ditched Nish and rebranded it. Btw, if you notice that Taskmaster started on Dave, and when it proved popular was moved to channel 4. Channel 4 also happen to be the ones that manage the advertising on the UKTV network on behalf of the beeb.
@JordiVanderwaal
2 жыл бұрын
Rachel is always spot on.
@jaydamalley3398
2 жыл бұрын
No, she isn't. She's hysterical. And not in the comedic way.
@HendeBauer
11 ай бұрын
@@jaydamalley3398maybe it depends on your Sense of humour?
@jaydamalley3398
11 ай бұрын
@@HendeBauer If your 'sense of humour' depends on you believing the opposite of reality, then indeed it does.
@HendeBauer
11 ай бұрын
@@jaydamalley3398 Hmm. I don’t think calling women hysterical when you disagree with them loads of fun either.
@jaydamalley3398
11 ай бұрын
@@HendeBauer I called A woman hysterical, not for fun, but because it's a descriptive term for what she -is- was.
@tomorrow4eva
2 жыл бұрын
Spot on definition of misogyny, with brilliant delivery.
@carl2488
Жыл бұрын
Rachel Pariss is brilliant.
@Gzeebo
2 жыл бұрын
Just glad Rachel didn't suggest winking at a hen do on a train.
@kyivstuff
2 жыл бұрын
Funny and sad at the same time :]
@Nofurtherquestions
2 жыл бұрын
The opposite of misogyny is misandry
@Gen7486
Жыл бұрын
God forbid they recognise it though 🙄😴
@IKnowNeonLights
2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha he is your justice minister. Hahahaha you get it, he gets to minister justice. Hahahaha he was your defence minister, before that. Hahahaha you get it, he got to minister defence. Now that is funny, it is so funny, it actually hurts. Hahahaha you get it, it hurts. Please remember when you vote, hahahaha, you get it, you vote.
@clown-eating-hippo
2 жыл бұрын
A fun activity you can do at home: Look up the inverse term for misogyny and then look up when each word started being widely used.
@tonykelpie
2 жыл бұрын
Would you say that misandry is the opposite? I can only remember it being used once. Social conditioning starts from birth (if not before) and these issues are therefore very difficult for everyone to think through
@jaydamalley3398
2 жыл бұрын
@Roa No, the inverse term for human rights is human responsibilities, not misogyny. Less ideology, more rational, logical thinking, plz.
@Gen7486
Жыл бұрын
@@jaydamalley3398 👏🏼👏🏼
@KK-fi6ms
4 күн бұрын
I would be happy to be told off condescendingly by Rachel Parris on misogyny. Wait... did that sound misogynistic? If so, please Ms Parris, please scold me.
@CTheRobot
2 жыл бұрын
WAIT! Is the Mash still going on Dave with new episodes since the BBC dropped it?!?
@fdm698
7 ай бұрын
I mean Dominic raab looks like a guy who would have learnt ancient greek at school but there you go 😅🤦
@magspies
Жыл бұрын
spot on!
@paddynevs5885
2 жыл бұрын
Now the new host of late night mash
@UAndDave
2 жыл бұрын
You're not wrong!
@TheQueenRulesAll
2 жыл бұрын
We are knackered!!! Brilliant
@TheJustLotta
2 жыл бұрын
Love Rachel!
@nskrdrengr1690
2 ай бұрын
If misogyny is a hate crime, then misandry should also be a hate crime. Apparently, Rachel doesn’t think so.
@hannahdyson7129
2 жыл бұрын
Funny sad and true all into one .
@mbarker1958
Жыл бұрын
on point...
@videostoriafilosofia2168
2 жыл бұрын
Why there is not this television in Italy
@sherimillman53
2 жыл бұрын
very good
@ZEGO24x
7 ай бұрын
I prefer it when she dishes stuff out on Nish, hahaha...
@naughteedesign
2 жыл бұрын
women complaining... imagine my shock.
@deathbyathousandcats
Жыл бұрын
It's all those rapes, not shocking anymore as it happens every day
@naughteedesign
Жыл бұрын
@@deathbyathousandcats be honest, just once.
@deathbyathousandcats
Жыл бұрын
@@naughteedesign Be honest all the time.
@lambrosbagatelas35
2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Raab in Greece the other day? Misogyny is a greek word! He could just ask somebody from Crete!
@221b-Maker-Street
2 жыл бұрын
He would have done... but iirc, the "Sea was closed" so that probably scuppered him consulting the er, Oracle.
@foucault8964
Жыл бұрын
Is this still on over there? I hacked the BBC to see this during Covid.
@kallisto9166
2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, keep it up!
@PupRiku
3 ай бұрын
"wink at a train"
@pugs425
Жыл бұрын
It’s the awful truth. & if Met police really believe their own advice for qfes Les; then they’re horrifyingly deluded.
@cnn8420
Жыл бұрын
1:10 lt's called misandry
@mentality-monster
2 жыл бұрын
Under the Tories, this will never change.
@seanspawn7805
2 жыл бұрын
Love yous guys.
@EJRainbow
2 жыл бұрын
Very good video
@alst4817
8 ай бұрын
What a load of drivel
@johanmalm8378
2 жыл бұрын
So good!
@1c2h3e4u5n6g
3 ай бұрын
I like her sharp observation comedy
@michiveritas1420
2 жыл бұрын
Pure class... Funny and to the point, but, a sad state of affairs (if we're being honest with ourselves).
@johnmorsley
2 жыл бұрын
scarily accurate! :'(
@fahrradmittelfranken8207
Жыл бұрын
1 in 60... so I guess you're more likely to get caught lifting bicycles...
@clivesnell
Жыл бұрын
Bring back Mock the week.
@coolairheights
2 жыл бұрын
I love how comedy in the uk is like school for grown-ups, please tell us all how to think because we are so stupid and bad, how about saying something funny. You had one job... oh yeah that is to socially engineer us all.
@paulsurbitonryan9632
2 ай бұрын
Feminist rants rarely gain converts. Canned laughter. Seven people in the audience. Don’t be fooled.
@larey12
2 жыл бұрын
I think I can speak on behalf of the vast majority of the male population that the idea of hurting the woman you love, or, indeed, any woman, is quite abhorrent to me. Also, harming, or sexually abusing a child would make me feel sick to the stomach. These 'men' that commit these crimes are the scum of the earth, but, they are also a very small minority of the male population. However, being a man, I am considered a 'risk'. I am automatically put into that category for the safety of women and children. And, you know what, I am fine with that as long as it helps towards the protection of women and children. Just saying that both genders are victims here to varying degrees. Personally, if I had my way chemical injections that reduce violence and sexual urges would be made mandatory for repeated offenders. I promise you, the threat of this would go a long way to stop their aggressive behavior. Why this hasn't been introduced already is beyond me.
@jaydamalley3398
2 жыл бұрын
What do we call "Holding the group responsible for the actions of a few", if done based on sex? If you can guess this one right, then plz reassess what you just said about how to protect women and children.
@221b-Maker-Street
2 жыл бұрын
Chemical castration reduces a man's sexual urge; it does not suddenly make him _respect_ women. Rape and sexual assault are not about sex; they're about power, control, and hatred. Sex is just the vile MO. 😔
@BigAL0074
7 ай бұрын
Not hard to see why this got cancelled.
@chrispollard2611
2 жыл бұрын
23 blokes don't like this video
@silvanow8768
2 жыл бұрын
How do you know they are men, you do know women can disagree as well.
@silvanow8768
2 жыл бұрын
@Roa I never said it was women who disagreed, I said how do you know they aren't women, there's a big difference between the two.
@silvanow8768
2 жыл бұрын
@Roa Again you miss a critical point which is burden of proof, when you claim something to be true you have a burden to prove this neither you or the original poster has proved this beyond resonable doubt, therefore what are you saying isn't currently true.
@silvanow8768
2 жыл бұрын
@Roa Also you know know that a 2016 study conducted by the government found that 50% of misogynistic behaviour was done by women.
@seeingthepattern
2 жыл бұрын
Rachel is a fantastic comedian … even when the subject is so far from funny.
@jaydamalley3398
2 жыл бұрын
This is a message for individuals called Marcus Brigstocke: _GET OUT!_
@evildoesnotsleep-x2b
2 жыл бұрын
make her the host
@Karajorma
Жыл бұрын
Looks like you got your wish.
@AlmostYearly
2 жыл бұрын
We're knackered too mate, hi.
@jo18533
2 жыл бұрын
Rotherham
@Chooch1080
Жыл бұрын
🤙🏿
@pennryan970
2 жыл бұрын
Legalize pepper spray
@DAKESIS17
2 жыл бұрын
Is Rachel pregnant?
@hamiltonmackenzie3340
2 жыл бұрын
Murdered men because misandry?
@Milamberinx
2 жыл бұрын
Men tend to be killed by men as well. Female killers are quite rare.
@tonykelpie
2 жыл бұрын
Men are murdered, two per month by female domestic partner. Some of those are domestic violence victims reacting to abuse, a few are not.
@markjohn4802
2 жыл бұрын
Not many men hate women, gay men might hate the thought of sleeping with one though. You don't get together with someone out of hate or mutual hate. Hate I'd say is a revenge emotion. It's born of juvenile immaturity unless it's with just cause. Mentally dysfunctional adults are the bane of society.
@liva9994
2 жыл бұрын
I would say that line of thought doesn't make much sense, gay men have far less chance to rape women than straight men. I think the problem stems more from the feeling of intitlement men feel when it comes to women. If a woman is dressed in a short skirt, men will look at it like she's trying to signal for their attention, like it's some unspoken rule that all women in society live to attract the eye of men. Hate is not often violent and quick, it can be hard to register, and if a woman does better than a man, men can hate women. Hell, men can hate women as well as they can hate other men, personality is such an important thing in how we judge other people. If you want women to be humble, sweet, kind, etc. but someone is how you would characterize as "obnoxious" then you hate that woman, if that woman was a man you may not have cared as much, but you can't seperate a personality from apperance that's not how we form opinions. The problem is kinda that women aren't stronger than men often times, so men pose a serious threat to women, and men are very quick to resolve to physical-action to get their way, be it abusive or not. And our society is build up around men being accepted for doing this "boys will be boys" or "it's only natural for boys to be like that" or "if she dresses like that, she's basically begging for it" etc. But men can go around top-less, but women can't without being the recipent of a lot of prejudices and barriers, just like men have had the power in a long time, it's the first born son that inherits everything, not the first born woman. It's a long history with a long time where systems have been build up, and as such it's prejudices like these that we need to become aware of and pull down. Not to say that there isn't prejudices against men as well, it was once acceptable for men to wear dresses and heels, but it isn't anymore, prejudices change all the time, but they are not often visible and stays very hidden. And prejudices are often where the hate comes from.
@kmook926
2 жыл бұрын
A lot of gay men hate women, what are you talking about?? The fact they don't need women to be available sexually allows them the freedom to truly display how much they don't like women.
@Gen7486
Жыл бұрын
And unfortunately most of the mentally dysfunctional adults are left leaning 🤷🏻♂️
@rql8543
2 жыл бұрын
Funny?
@eddcosterton5531
2 жыл бұрын
Is this supposed to be comedy or preaching?
@tonykelpie
2 жыл бұрын
Is violence against anyone comedy?
@eddcosterton5531
2 жыл бұрын
@@tonykelpie I quite agree, although it is the basis of slapstick comedy. But I'm not sure why this is being included in a comedy show, when really its liberal preaching
@tonykelpie
2 жыл бұрын
@@eddcosterton5531 and what would illiberal preaching say?
@eddcosterton5531
2 жыл бұрын
@@tonykelpie The political opposite of liberal is not illiberal. Neither is political liberalism actual liberalism, it is merely the freedom of some chosen causes against the restrictions of others
@NicolaMulholland
2 жыл бұрын
Hey-up Dan and Edd have something to say......🙄
@derekspitz9225
2 жыл бұрын
Do you remember when comedy used to be funny? Ah, those were the days.
@hannacook859
2 жыл бұрын
It is funny. Sad but funny. Things get sad when the rape jokes are the coming from people that would rather not be raped instead of the people looking for something to rape. I am sure you can find some old bill Cosby bits though, so don't worry
@derekspitz9225
2 жыл бұрын
@@hannacook859 Calm down, Hanna. No need to get hysterical about it👍
@SuperDecdog
2 жыл бұрын
@@derekspitz9225 think you were the one getting hysterical and then you got called out in it for having a whine
@manic2360
2 жыл бұрын
@@derekspitz9225 ..ya just got done for your own misogyny.. oh the irony
@derekspitz9225
2 жыл бұрын
@@manic2360 Yeah. Ok. Whatever you say👍👍
@SickSkilz
Жыл бұрын
Pretty funny that she jokingly ridicules a guy for notlooking the word up, and then she consistently uses it wrong herself. Misogyny is hate/prejudice/etc against women. It is NOT whatever disproportionately happens to women. An analogy is that black people are disproportionately the victims of murder and calling that racism.
@haiwatigere6202
2 жыл бұрын
The same locker room jokes she so despises are the same she throws at Nish
@markborn5293
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. It’s called irony.
@borderterrieradventures5179
2 жыл бұрын
In no way are they the same.
@hannacook859
2 жыл бұрын
Got a point there. We all need to change that includes putting down men in a way that is too personal and private
@mamesmck5236
2 жыл бұрын
@@hannacook859 I think she's highlighting how normalised it is to hear a male speaking that way to a female. When its the other way round it's more noticeable seen as we're not used to seeing it.
@iseriver3982
2 жыл бұрын
Jokes are a crime! Unless they're again Dominic raab, then they're OK.
@derekspitz9225
2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps one of the hysterical people convinced that all men are evil, rapist, murders could clarify whether male-on-male violence (which is a much, much more prevalent than male-on-female violence) is a lesser crime that than male-on-female violence? And if so, why? Cheers.
@rhonaw3409
2 жыл бұрын
The reason people talk about "violence against women" specifically is because it's violence a person suffers specifically because of their gender. If someone is attacked because of their race, religion or sexuality we call it a hate crime. The point is that Sarah Everard is a person who would be alive if she wasn't born female. Yes men also get attacked (almost always by men btw) but it's not happening specifically and exclusively because they are men. PS If you feel that this video is declaring all men are evil then you're clearly the hysterical one
@fancyhat6505
2 жыл бұрын
@@rhonaw3409 that is such a twisted view of the world, I feel sorry for you honestly. Seems like the tactics of dividing everyone by race, gender ect by making them feel like victims worked wonders on you.
@derekspitz9225
2 жыл бұрын
@@rhonaw3409 Hysterical neo-feminists want the authority of some men (and some women), the privileges of all women , and the accountability of children.
@derekspitz9225
2 жыл бұрын
@@fancyhat6505 Agreed. Intersectionality is a deeply toxic ideology.
@fancyhat6505
2 жыл бұрын
@@derekspitz9225 since when did one person doing something criminal, mean that we demonize the entirety of whatever arbitrary group we associate that person with? So a Peado is caught with little boys, we don't attack the gay community because of it, yet when its men everyone jumps on the manbashing bus.
@kenjikyochi2348
2 жыл бұрын
No.
@johnnybravo9087
2 жыл бұрын
You are aiming your anger at non-misogynistic men. Wrong target.
@hannacook859
2 жыл бұрын
She is aiming her message at all the public. We should all stop misogyny. People that are misogynistic are beyond talking to. She is talking to good non misogynistic men and to women. That is exactly the right target.
@fancyhat6505
2 жыл бұрын
@@hannacook859 the problem there is what you're classing as mysogony. I'm a tree surgeon, I swing around in trees with chainsaws, I do not know one single female tree surgeon as the work is too physical for them. Is that mysogony I wonder? Or is it sexist that women aren't pulling their weight in the arboricultural world? Seems like it's only sexist when it's convenient.
@tigs6639
2 жыл бұрын
@fancy hat, I've heard this argument a lot, about women not doing 'manly' jobs, and taking that as evidence that men and women are different. Yes, men and women have differences. We also have similarities. But don't confuse our physical differences with the ones society puts on us. When I was at school, my favourite subjects were ones where I could make stuff, so art, design technology etc... I LOVED working with wood, carving, cutting, metal, using all the tools and cutting machines....that was what I enjoyed the most. I wanted to be a carpenter/builder, or even, get this - A TREE SURGEON....!!! I genuinely wanted to that, I love trees, I love the smell of woodchips (my grandad was a carpenter so I was always around wood as a child). I love tools, I love high ropes and trees....would have been a great job for me, I'm sure. But guess what....I'm a girrrrrlll 😢 Even worse than that, a girl that got good grades at school.....which means (and you'll know from experience, I imagine) I was kind of funnelled into further study of academic subjects, purely because I had the ability. Unfortunately, I'm from a working class family, nobody in my family had been to university, so the only advice I got was this: - if you have a degree, you'll get a good job - don't do a degree in art, because then you won't get a good job I've since found out, both of those things are WRONG. And here I am, wishing I'd trained as a carpenter, tree surgeon, or something practical because it's always what I loved doing, and then I'd have a good job. The assumption was, because I was a girl, I would not even be offered those kinds of jobs. Despite the fact I was always strong, I did gymnastics and tennis from a young age, I always beat the boys in arm wrestles, and always loved climbing trees.... I'm saying this because I want you to consider - just because you don't know any women tree surgeons, doesn't mean women don't want to do that kind of work. It isn't offered to them. Teachers, parents, society...assume that women don't want to/can't do physical work. The reality is, I know I'm not the only woman who loves carving, working with tools etc. Society treats us differently, is it any wonder this stereotypes continue to exist....
@fancyhat6505
2 жыл бұрын
@@tigs6639 so your problem there is the education system, there was nothing stopping you from going into a practical line of work, but you chose to because you had good grades, not sure how men have anything to do with that. I became a tree surgeon because I dropped out of school at 15 ( a problem facing many young men) and decided that I wanted to do something physical and practical, a choice that you also had. Now, I know that there are female tree surgeons out there but they are few and far between and they have to be completely dedicated to the job because the physicality of it is just so demanding.
@tigs6639
2 жыл бұрын
@fancy hat, hello again, hope you're well. Thanks for your reply. So...Did I SAY I blame men....? I did not. I do blame stereotypes of gender, but both men and women are guilty of that. I didn't say it was the male teachers that made me drop my favourite subjects. It was the advice of all my teachers (and family) but they based that decision on the fact I was a girl. Do you see what I'm saying? I'm not saying it's the fault of men. But the stereotypes of what jobs are for *men vs women* meant I was advised to go in a different direction to what I wanted to do... My parents didn't have any better advice, they only knew as much as they knew. The only advice I got was go to university and then you'll get a good job. Which, like I said, I NOW know isn't true. At least I'll be in a position to pass this information on to my children. I was discouraged from taking up a practical job because I was a girl. That's part of the reason there are less women in 'mens' jobs. Of course, not all women have the physical strength or even want to do physical work (...but neither do all men...) but the point is, if I'd been a boy, it would have been an option for me. And yes, as you pointed out, this is a problem with the education system. It's also linked to class, and gender stereotypes - all these things play a part. You say I had the choice to do a practical job instead of university, but I'm telling you, I was told, and believed, I couldn't. Bearing in mind, when you're just 14 they ask you to choose which GCSEs you'll do, which informs which a-levels and university course you're able to get onto....so you're making choices at age 14 which effect the rest of your life. And I didn't know about life then, what 14 year old does...? In fact, I knew I loved being practical and making things, but everyone told me I couldn't get a job doing that, that I'd struggle to find work if I studied art etc. All the adults you trust, they tell you to get a degree, so I did, and I worked really bladdy hard and got a first...only to find out, I couldn't get a job when I finished uni. I couldn't even get a job in my local cafe until I *took my degree off of my cv* !! Imagine that - studying 2 years of a-levels then 3 years of university, working hard because I thought it was what I should do...just to find out, I can only get a minimum wage job anyway, and now I'm years behind everyone else who left school at 16. I feel lied to. And I'm not alone in that. So yes, I see problems with the education system. It's also linked to class - I know people with rich parents who advised their kids which degrees lead to jobs - I didn't get this advice, I didn't know it was a thing...all I was told is that a degree=job. And by the way, I've since looked into re-training in a trade, but because I already have a-levels AND a degree, I can't enroll back in college. I'm educated too highly, but not high enough for well paying jobs, because you need a masters on top of any degree these days to get anywhere. It's all messed up. Sorry for the life story, but I want you to understand where I'm coming from. When me and you were 14/15 we both made decision that effected what work we now do. You dropped out of school, and now you have a good job. I wanted to do the job YOU do, but was advised to go to uni, then I had to take my degree off my cv just to get a minimum wage job. Gender stereotypes are PART of this, but not the only part. The education system and class problems are probably bigger issues, butttt gender still plays a part in what advice is given, what doors are opened to you. Y'get me??? 😉
@jim-es8qk
2 жыл бұрын
I think Dave should of kept clear of purchasing this "comedy". The station will loose viewing figures.
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