Blame the oil crisis of ‘73 and the resulting emissions regulations for making these muscle cars slow...
@mikewhipkey6863
5 жыл бұрын
What a disaster the cars got the same mileage but with only half of the power...
@Snowcrest289
5 жыл бұрын
But did they have to make them ugly?!?!
@Snowcrest289
5 жыл бұрын
@Cody Sonnet You might want to blame the Arabs for the price spike in oil in the 1970s. Also, today's muscle cars kick-butt on anything ever produced in the 1960s More H.P., better gas mileage, 98% less emissions, way better brakes and handling, and way, way ,way more safe!
@thefirebirdflock3440
5 жыл бұрын
And don’t forget the lack of any unique style
@badrott8028
5 жыл бұрын
@@Snowcrest289 yes, but they are ugly as fuck
@christiangarcia9307
3 жыл бұрын
Oh man this cars are so nice,love them all,thanks for share it with us!!!🙂
@Parents_of_Twins
4 жыл бұрын
Randall AMC dealership in Mesa Arizona got endorsement from AMC to sell Gremlins powered with the 401 V8. They were known as the Randall 401-XR and would run 13.9 in the quarter at 103-106mph. They sold for $2995 and were available from 1972-1974 apparently a total of 20 were built for the street and one for the strip. Car Craft magazine tested one that had been modified and it ran a 12.22 @115.07 and was still a streetable daily driver. I'm amazed that's all they sold especially at that price. Damn I've got to get that freaking time machine working.
@slyane7320
4 жыл бұрын
I'm a Ford guy but the 74 GTO has MASSIVE POTENTIAL...Shame on you... Same as the KingCobra & most of the cars in this video!!!!!
@Parents_of_Twins
4 жыл бұрын
We had a Dodge Aspen when I was in high school. I wanted it but I was planning on taking the 318 it had in it out and putting a 383 in it. Unfortunately my parents sold it to my half brother. The bottom of the distributor shaft broke while he was driving it. He saw the oil pressure go to zero 0 but instead of shutting it down and having it towed to my parents. He drove some "friends" of his back home then drove over to a different town and then finally drove out to our house where he demanded that we fix it for free. Now when I say sold I should clarify that it was a couple hundred less than offers we had gotten on the car and it was in installments of which he was several behind at this point. I personally pulled the oil pan to see what the damage was, fully inspected to find carnage as he had driven well over 100 miles without oil pressure, to my amazement the bearings looked fine. No scratches no scuffing, nothing. The bearings looked like they should for a car that had 60k on it, which is what it had. After Dad and I looked at all the bearings showing several to my brother we put the car back together, which he was complaining was taking too long and started shouting in Dad's face (which earned him a nice black eye :) We changed the oil and filter and the distributor shaft and told him to come get his car. Told him it was good to go but he immediately brought into the local used car shiester who gave him next to nothing for it. Some older guy bought it and drove it until he died. Not sure what happened after that but it wouldn't shock me if it was still running. Oh and my brother never paid us another cent for it.
@cmood9560
3 жыл бұрын
Cracks me up how all the videos are of the cars struggling, stalling, and whining. I’d still drive any of them!
@Floridaredwing25
2 жыл бұрын
OMG almost barfed from the shaking on the Gremlin GT 🤮
@JorgeRodriguez-po7kx
2 жыл бұрын
I Like the First One The White Pontiac GTO Very Nice 😏😚😁
@chocodiledundee1
3 жыл бұрын
I love them all ... they all sounded awesome, they all looks beautiful I would’ve be so grateful if I had any of those , the mustang and the gremlin are my favourites .... I love uniqueness something you ain’t gonna see parked next to you when you are shopping .... well done thank you ❤️
@Parents_of_Twins
4 жыл бұрын
Actually I bet the Gremlin GT was one of the fastest cars on this list prior to modification. It only weighed 2633lbs and with 150hp that's not horrible. That 150hp is probably underrated anyway. Either way you could spice it up pretty easily I'm sure and make that little Gremlin quite the little badass.
@paulanger2048
4 жыл бұрын
I've heard a couple times that gremlin would surprise an unwitting victim. They probably handled pretty good too.
@minimanadam
3 жыл бұрын
Slow or not , they all still sounded amazing and I LOVE driving rwd v8 cars. They just have "that feel" to them..
@kellyh4035
3 жыл бұрын
This was due to the oil crisis and emission laws! The government is to blame, not the manufacturers
@StenTarvo
3 жыл бұрын
Im saving up for a Magnum cause I love them and they are awesome.
@davesnothereman7250
3 жыл бұрын
The nice thing is they are all "relatively" inexpensive and make great platforms to modify. Unfortunately, very hard to find. However, take ANY of these to a car show and more people will come to check it out than many of the mainstream muscle cars.
@davidrutherford891
4 жыл бұрын
The Muscle Car era was ended by Federal emissions regulations and sky high insurance rates. Today's engine designers have coaxed more hp out of engines than 60s or 70s muscle cars had. While having to meet even higher emissions standards. As far as saying that the Muscle Cars produced at the end of the era were gutless wonders, you obviously are not a car nut. I bought a used 74 360 Duster. I spent 7 or 8 paychecks under the hood and built a car that could turn the 1/4 mile in 12.51 seconds. That's faster than an LS 6 Chevelle or Hemi Road Runner. What really died in the 70s was cheap horse power. A 383 68 Road Runner cost $2870, I spent that much souping up my Duster. In 68 almost ant recent High School grad with a decent job could have bought a new Road Runner. A Hemi Charger today, is more than 10 times that amount. The solution ? Go find a 70s mid size 2 door and swap in 5.7 or thereabouts small block V8 then throw some paychecks under the hood. When your done, go find some guy driving a tuner car and teach him a lesson in torque. i spent
@terryjohnson2691
3 жыл бұрын
Yes... I would love some of these. Had some volare and aspens good cars. Solid .
@paulrose6359
3 жыл бұрын
My friend bolted a AMC 401ci in place of the 304,........it did mid 13's. Yes he did more mods but it still looked like a Gremlin but with wider tires. Sounded good also !
@thegeek0017
4 жыл бұрын
The way that Dodge was running made me CRINGE. Tune that carb man
@lonmcq7317
4 жыл бұрын
Good call on this... EVERY one of these models is a complete waste of space... JUNK...
@timheersma4708
3 жыл бұрын
I had a '79 Dodge Aspen 6 cyl 4 spd …I came very close to following through with dropping in a 440 cid 4 barrel until I found out how much it would cost me and I was only making minimum wage then.
@stupidguy1969
6 жыл бұрын
i would be happy to own any one of these cars
@chicoskimoni9338
5 жыл бұрын
Better have the moolah and patience for the restoration and optimization of these gas guzzling clunkers. If you dont have the pocket for it, its just headache.
@c4llahan
4 жыл бұрын
Hate to be “that guy”, but these things are ass ugly. It’d be better to wait and invest in something pre-‘73. Better looking, faster, more iconic.
@klein2042
4 жыл бұрын
Even the Gremlin?
@adamseabolt4859
4 жыл бұрын
jsarabia me too
@flight2k5
4 жыл бұрын
Why they all suck
@catjudo1
6 жыл бұрын
Every one of these cars came from the bleakest time in American automotive history, when the engines were so choked with emissions equipment that they never ran well and could barely get out of their own way. The carburetors alone could drive a seasoned mechanic to retirement. Those are still big V8s at heart; swap the stock carbs for nice Edelbrock or Holley units and fit some modern catalytic converters and those cars would go considerably faster. Breathable air is definitely a good thing, and it's nice that the technology has improved so much since then.
@TheHelado36
6 жыл бұрын
Sterling Crockett am I right to think that these car without all those pollution restrictive gadgets ran even better and could have been more efficient?
@catjudo1
6 жыл бұрын
Definitely. But the emissions equipment wasn't put there for efficiency or power. It was put there because the US government wanted cars to run cleaner, and US cars of that era were among the first to run smog equipment. I went to Pompeii for a month to work on an archaeological dig in the ancient city, and the difference in air quality between the USA and the Bay of Naples was striking. Most Italian cars still lacked emissions equipment, and as the Bay of Naples has similar geography to Los Angeles, by the end of the day the air was thick with ozone and gaseous hydrocarbons. It took me a couple of weeks to adjust to it, and after I got home I started coughing up black phlegm and kept that up for a week. I always thought emissions equipment was pansy-ass liberal nonsense, but after being over there and reading how unrestricted cars are the biggest single contributor to poor air quality, I have seen the light.
@TheHelado36
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!!!!
@lesnainss
6 жыл бұрын
Well they might be slow, but having a nice V8 gurgle and still being able to pull off a sick burnout is ok in my book. I live in France so any of these cars will have some "Wow !" effect on people.
@Adrian90GT
6 жыл бұрын
Same thing in poland. We mostly have small 1.4L or 1.9L diesel cars, so they can be pretty nice cars
@futmandplayz504
6 жыл бұрын
Same thing in Denmark
@elespiritudeltigre9526
6 жыл бұрын
Here in costa rica a prius is considered an exotic lol
@Impactjunky
6 жыл бұрын
Those old cars were actually quite powerful if you removed all of the factory emissions equipment. The early days of emissions regulations were very hard on V8 cars.
@grantw.whitwam9948
6 жыл бұрын
I don't know why this video gets down on these cars so much, most of the cars during that time had 6 cyl or 4 cyl engines. They rodded pretty good for the time.
@henryjon45able
6 жыл бұрын
Whoever filmed the gremlin gt has Parkinson's
@butchs.4239
6 жыл бұрын
either that or they were spanking their... ;)
@krb5292
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was kind of an earthquake. I found it interesting that of all the ones shown doing a burnout, only the Gremlin was able to light up both rear tires.
@RikterZilla
6 жыл бұрын
They could have been having an epileptic fit
@quikgt
6 жыл бұрын
There was more smoke from the sidepipes than the tires lol
@daveswinfield
6 жыл бұрын
I think the camera was dangling from a key chain.
@archiebunker6059
6 жыл бұрын
A good cam,set of headers and deep gears will wake any of these up.
@VAHOSS
6 жыл бұрын
Squirmin Herman the one eyed German well, sometimes it takes a little more than just that.....but yea, we get the point
@halleffect1
6 жыл бұрын
don't forget a set of heads and remove the cat.
@HotasL
6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I had a 77 Mustang II with a 302 4 speed back in 1981. Installed some re-worked '69 351 Windsor heads, good cam, Edelbrock aluminum intake, Holley carburetor and headers with a good exhaust. Definitely woke it up and made that little lightweight car a lot more fun.
@BornToBeFamed
6 жыл бұрын
Archie Bunker yep 373 gear, 3kstall, full bolt ons, nice cam. 750cfm . Air gap intake. Heads. They would be running strong
@ldnwholesale8552
6 жыл бұрын
Some fairly simple mods. put the cam timing where it makes power, carby settings ditto and you have a 1971 engine. Which runs ok and still looks legal! IF the exhaust is a decent size Cats do not hurt power, if the exhaust is too small use a bigger cat. It will still clean up the worst of the noxious crap from unleaded fuel.
@topjimmy8668
6 жыл бұрын
316 V8? Did you mean 318 V8?
@wilkersonsmowershop8379
6 жыл бұрын
topjimmy8668 yea they goofed and the Daytona and magnum had a 400 big block option too I believe.
@unclemarksdiyauto
6 жыл бұрын
topjimmy8668, yep they must have meant 318. No 316 engines ever.
@DannyAllen10271966
6 жыл бұрын
Also don't forget the ones with the 440
@DjJtown
6 жыл бұрын
You're right. The Magnum and, Charger and Cordoba for '75-'78 were available with a 400 ci Police Interceptor as an option. The Chrysler 300 and Magnum GT w/T-top were the only ones limited to a 360 4 bbl. I had a '79 Cordoba Brougham and it was the last of the 400 4bbl cars. The assembly date was the last day for the '78 model year, on a Fri, but the paperwork wasn't done til following Monday. It had NO balls until I rebuilt it stroked it to a 444 ci monster. All MoparPerformance parts, so it was considered an off-the-shelf rebuild. 652 ponies to the rear wheels! OH yah, that was back in 1984 w/o EFI, PC Tuners or turbos. It looked bone stock. Black on black with dove grey pillow buckets, pwr windows, pwr seats and A/C and ran a best at 11.4 @120.7 mph in the 1/4.
@7875saltsprings1
6 жыл бұрын
did you mean the 438? J.K....
@keithabbatoy4043
6 жыл бұрын
supposedly worst and slowest but of which a lot of people wish they had one of these vehicles.
@IchibanMoto
6 жыл бұрын
i want that Gremlin GT . no, seriously !!
@edsmith7153
3 жыл бұрын
I had a 73 Gremlin X with the 304 engine. Josephine could smoke the rear tires in 1st, slide sideways in 2nd and bark the tires in third. And that was before some friends and me started tinkering with her. Used to love choosing Mustangs.
@budlewis721
3 жыл бұрын
At least the Gemlins were smaller and lighter to go with the era's pathetic horsepower. A 1976 500ci 4 bbl Cadillac engine put out a whopping 190 hp, and weighed as much as a freight train.
@TheWolfsnack
3 жыл бұрын
.......without the epileptic videographer?
@timroyall6513
3 жыл бұрын
Wait, no one ever, and I mean never classed the Gremlin as a muscle car. They would run a little and AMC sold many of them. But no they were never a muscle car.
@mytonysdaddy
6 жыл бұрын
The cars shown are no way in stock form,,they didn't sound or run like those pictured they were all smooth idling quiet cars and slugs
@triangleofdeath6246
6 жыл бұрын
Good luck finding one of these cars in stock form! my 81 Imperial was stock when I got it, and it certainly won't be when it's done! I already yanked the Stock EFI, and stuck a 4bbl on it. the 2.26 diff gears are next to go, I want to find at least a 2.94 .
@extremedrivr
5 жыл бұрын
@@triangleofdeath6246 No offense but why carb?? I know carbs are cool. But you can actually make more reliable and efficient power with a new 4 barrel Fuel Injection system from F.A.S.T. They look just like a classic 4 Barrel Carb but with modern fuel injection fitted in. Not hatin on carbs. Just that EFI tends to make more serious, but reliable power if done right then carbs can.
@edarcuri182
6 жыл бұрын
I don't agree that "everyone" thinks that GTO is ugly. One of our race cars is a Nova and the styling is well liked by many. The GTO is that car with Pontiac styling features and it looks good as a Pontiac. Neither is heart-stoppingly beautiful, but "ugly" is off the mark.
@mfsb8473
6 жыл бұрын
I'd take that 74 GTO in a heartbeat!
@yelnatswaltuo
6 жыл бұрын
Had a 74 GTO and for the era it was hot. the 350 was a good motor. Not sure where the video got the HP rating, seems awfully low.
@bigw8549
6 жыл бұрын
+Stanley “NASGI” Outlaw I remember seeing an ad for a red 74 GTO in Hot Rod magazine back then.
@Jgeneraledger23
6 жыл бұрын
The Nova-looking '74 GTO was FAR better looking than that fugly 'Colonnade'-based '73.
@SorryWereOpen247
6 жыл бұрын
Ed Arcuri I agree with you !!! These are probably people who are not Chevrolet enthusiasts given the fact that the 74 "goat" looks like a nova with a shaker hood. My next door neighbor had a Buick Apollo years ago that was involved in an accident. the body shop didn't replace the stripes on the side that was hit for some reason, So he had them to remove the stripes off the other side to match. It was actually better looking without the stripes. The fenders had air-duct moldings on the sides like the old Electra 225's.
@mrlafayette1964
6 жыл бұрын
the Volare was never considered a muscle car in the 70's,I was there
@Tommy_Mac
6 жыл бұрын
I worked in Dodge dealers as a mechanic in 77-79.They did rust really well and had consistent stalling issues with every engine version. JUNK!
@Stylensky
6 жыл бұрын
LMAO, I was talking just yesterday about my parents 77 Volare wagon . I remember riding in it and it stalling as we pulled into highway traffic. My dad took it back to the dealer and cussed them out. He came home in a brand new 1977 Dodge Colt (Mitsubishi Lancer) that lasted us well over 150,000 miles and four different drivers.
@Tommy_Mac
6 жыл бұрын
Stylensky yep...a lot of the comments reference Government emissions as the cause of the issues. BS. All the manufacturers had to follow the same regulations. The US manufacturers could have spent the money to engineer the cars to run right. They didn't and shoved garbage out to an ignorant American public that trusted them.
@robmcmuffin8453
6 жыл бұрын
maybe not.. but Volare was an awesome song in the 60s!
@bigw8549
6 жыл бұрын
+Stylensky my parents had a 77 Volare with the Super Six. It stalled all the time. Dealer couldn't fix it. Another mechanic took off the original carb and replaced it with a Holley. Problem solved.
@Impactjunky
6 жыл бұрын
The "Smog Era" is what was slowing these cars down, early emissions equipment was really hard on horsepower. Hot Rod magazine did a dyno test article about how the late 70's early 80's Chevy 305 V8 had over 80 HP choked out of it in stock form thanks to it's emissions equipment and restrictive intake and exhaust manifolds. Advertised power was 140 HP but after removing smog equipment and installing a cheap intake and headers it was 230 HP which is actually decent for the engine size.
@johncheves4740
6 жыл бұрын
True, and that's with stock cam and compression. With a better cam, a little porting, and higher compression pistons, I'm sure a 305 could do even better. Of course, if you're spending tat kind of money, might as well go with a 350.
@Impactjunky
6 жыл бұрын
@John Cheves You can make a great little 305 by just swapping to a set of stock Vortec heads and choosing the right cam. With the Vortec heads and a good cam they make just over 320 HP on completely stock pistons and bottom end. I read all this in a Hot Rod Magazine dyno article so it should be accurate.
@marioncobaretti2280
6 жыл бұрын
it was the cylinder heads and camshaft profile that robbed them of most of the power
@Impactjunky
6 жыл бұрын
@marion cobaretti You talking about the 305? The stock heads and cam weren't great but the smog equipment was responsible for choking out about 25HP if I remember correctly.
@Bonzi_Buddy
6 жыл бұрын
Modern fuel injected crate engine. Restomod is the way to go on some of these things. Coil over rear suspension on that Xbody is always nice too.
@BeinformedBefree
6 жыл бұрын
I actually like that 74' GTO and that 76' Volare . You can always drop in a bigger motor.
@avman1339
6 жыл бұрын
Lavtrabia Lawson yep. A 455 would have been a DIRECT swap in for the 350 or even 301 Pontiac of that era.
@honestbutugly
6 жыл бұрын
so you would swap out the engine for a motor and make it a electric car? thats crazy
@honestbutugly
6 жыл бұрын
so you would swap out the engine for a motor and make it a electric car? thats crazy
@BeinformedBefree
6 жыл бұрын
@Brad Dovel motor and engine are the same thing. FYI I cannot stand electric cars.
@dougmiller6944
6 жыл бұрын
Looks just like the Nova's from that time. I personally love the look of these cars. Someone was way off by calling this car ugly.
@mikethecabbie8476
6 жыл бұрын
Am I correct in thinking that these all come from a period when the Middle East oil crisis hit the western world, blanket 55mph speed limits, and that US market cars had to have speedos only marked up to 85mph...? If so, they were not so much aberrations, but children of their time.
@georgejacob3162
6 жыл бұрын
They did indeed but also insurance went sky high on muscle cars as they were easily stolen so with high insurance premiums and high fuel prices muscle cars were no longer affordable so manufacturers could only offer cars like the ones above with stickers and body kits that were a hark back to the ol' days. Manufacturers were also forced to restrict engine power. The oil embargo of 1973/74 was instigated by Organisation of Arab Oil Exporting Countries and targeted anyone who was 'friends' with and supplied Israel during the Yom Kippur War which included the USA and the UK and also Canada, Japan, the Netherlands, Rhodesia, Portugal and South Africa. I once had a 1971 Dodge Charger with a smog bound 1973 360 small block in it. Great car but with a tendency to breakdown and fall apart and burn a hole in my wallet!
@georgejacob3162
6 жыл бұрын
Just to show how 'out of favour' muscle cars went back in the 70's and 80's I recently heard about how one guy bought a 1970 Plymouth Road Runner Superbird back in the 80's for $500. They are now worth hundreds of thousands of dollars!
@georgejacob3162
6 жыл бұрын
Oh and as we all know the Duke Boys got through a fair few Chargers! That was because in the late 70's and early 80's nobody wanted or could afford to run those cars. Chargers were cheap and plentiful back then. The Dukes got through around 320 Chargers or should I say Generals!
@mikethecabbie8476
6 жыл бұрын
George Jacob, interestingly I saw one on M4 at Slough a couple of days ago. It was a 1970 Charger 500, in the orange; but without the Confederate paraphernalia. It was also being driven VERY sedately, given our fuel prices!
@georgejacob3162
6 жыл бұрын
I used to have a 1971 Dodge Charger with a 1973 small block engine and with a column shift auto with bench seats! Yes, a 2 door coupe style car with seating for six! It felt like it was doing 170 mph at 70 mph! I have owned an older car than that - a 1964 Ford Corsair 1500 in Lagoon Blue with a four on the tree manual shift! That car originally came with a bench seat too but, of course, the boy racers had got to it at some point and put single seats in (from a Fiat Uno the tasteless fools!) and Wolfrace slot mag wheels on it. Those wheels didn't look right on a 4 door! There's a KZitem film with Jim Clark driving a Corsair with that gearshift and you can tell that he doesn't like the gearshift but can't say so as he is endorsing the Ford product!
@paulcost6446
6 жыл бұрын
Yes were slow and strangled by emissions, unlike the examples shown in this video, obviously running worked V8's listen to those lumpy cams and spinning both rear tyres with a LSD, hardly a sub 200 HP motor.
@charlesvan13
6 жыл бұрын
They weren't all on LSD.
@Mr.Goldbar
6 жыл бұрын
the second gen Mustang is not a pony car. It's a donkey car
@ryan-yi9vq
6 жыл бұрын
Bar Goldstein third gen bitch 74 to 78
@Mr.Goldbar
6 жыл бұрын
Ryan Epperly it's the second gen
@eyellgeteven9928
6 жыл бұрын
Third.
@Mr.Goldbar
6 жыл бұрын
Eyellgeteven so... what's the second then?
@socialghost4400
6 жыл бұрын
Many people consider 71 - 73 a gen for themselves......but if that’s the case, then 69 - 70 should be their own gen too.....making the “pinto” mustang the 4th gen.....but I’m sure people will argue over that all day, so I’m just gonna leave this here
@adamtrombino106
6 жыл бұрын
Poster needs to do more homework before presenting 'facts and numbers'.. 1st off, there's not 1 car here that was ever considered to be, nor ever intended to be, a muscle car. They were 'sporty performance orientated' , a term coined in the 70s. With very few exceptions, everything was slow from about 75-82. The focus shifted to better handling, braking, and control, something that most high horsepower cars of the 50s and 60s never had. Anyway, the poster needs to know that the L48 Vette was the slowest ever made, with 165hp net, it did 0-60 in just under 10 seconds with an automatic. The 79 Volare RR with the 195 net hp 360 did 0-60 in 8.2, for comparison. The 78 Magnum with the optional 400 police engine, did 0-60 in 8.8 sec. That's in a 4400 lb car! Of course, none of these cars are 'fast', but at the time, that was right up there with the best the Big 3 had to offer from the factory. Best part is, that any of the cars featured could be easily made to go fast for cheap, and people do it all the time.
@keithlowe1982
6 жыл бұрын
Adam Trombino Right! Actually, the '78-'79 Aspen/Volare super coupes were quicker to 60 than a Corvette at the time.
@avman1339
6 жыл бұрын
Keith Lowe I had a police pursuit E58 option 360 in a 79 Aspen R/T. Ran around 16 flat in the 1320, still faster than the Hurst Olds same year, and responded pretty well with a cam carb intake dizzy headers swap. Heads and slugs would have really juiced it up, but then again, that would be a LOT of mods. The 78 Dodge Little Red Truck was the QUICKEST 0-60 and 1320 car of the era, by far. 360 powered with W2 heads from the factory. Truck motors had far less emissions controls on them.
@archangele1
6 жыл бұрын
Adam you are 100% correct. Most of these cars, with a change of cam, timing and a couple mods to the carb and intake could be made to really fly. We used to call these cars 'smoggers' because all the smog control devices literally cut the available engine horsepower down to about 30% of what the engine was really capable of. A 318 Chrysler V8 can easily be tuned to deliver 250 - 300 hp and still be docile enough to use as a daily driver. And that is with a carburetor and no fancy computer engine management. For an example, The pre smogger 1971 318 2bbl delivered 235 hp in stock form. This engine could power a 4000+ lb Plymouth Fury to 60 in around 9 seconds running through a 3 speed Torqueflite transmission. The mid 70's to late 80's were dismal years for performance, but these cars did have potential with a few changes to the engine.
@patricksmith7492
6 жыл бұрын
ejanc601 It's easy for us to blame the EPA but they inadvertently forced manufacturers to rely on better engineering their engine performance instead of just dumping fuel into a large engine. Regardless of number of cylinders or displacement, the EPA set a standard for emissions, mpg, etc and that left the manufacturers to rely on better engineering their engine performance with what the EPA gave them to work with. Basically it was like "For that many cylinders of that displacement, you can have the power you want as long as you have cleaner emissions and less fuel consumption. That changed the whole ballgame. They now had to take what they had to work with and engineer it to get the most output, again, instead of just large displacement engines and huge fuel consumption. They eventually got it. Cars became lighter, engines cleaner and more efficient yet more power. I've always admired the Germans for their normally aspirated engines that didn't rely on huge displacement engines or small high-rev turbocharged ones. Regular sized engines cranking out awesome torque and horsepower. Not to mention their use of inline sixes and RWD. Another thing they did that's rarely mentioned? For a while in the U.S., anytime you opted for the larger engine offering you were stuck with an automatic. But the Germans you could get the larger engine offered and still have a manual (and RWD). Glad to see the U.S. is finally putting out good muscle cars again.
@mrtom2854
6 жыл бұрын
Adam Trombino the Pontiac was a muscle car
@LonidaLeon
6 жыл бұрын
Who made the Gremlin GT video had Parkinson's?
@SuzanneKowalski
6 жыл бұрын
Or just wanted the viewers to be seasick. (I had to skip that one, very annoying footage.)
@LonidaLeon
6 жыл бұрын
Aahahhaahah :D
@Mcleod0000
6 жыл бұрын
The Gremlin engine was shaking the earth
@3milio0o95
6 жыл бұрын
I was kinda thinking the same thing. I said to my self; Who the hell took this shot, Michael J. Fox!?
@forwarddrive4066
6 жыл бұрын
Lmao! Hahahahaha, scared of loud motor Grandpa? Hahahahaha
@denka7163
6 жыл бұрын
They just basically shit on dodge the entire time and the gremlin with the 304 was actually pretty quick cause of it being so light
@Maples01
5 жыл бұрын
Smog killed the 304, the 250 I6 was actually quicker.
@MegaJavelin1970
5 жыл бұрын
Change out the intake for a good 4 barrel and some free flowing exhaust and the 304 really wakes up
@MegaJavelin1970
5 жыл бұрын
Even better drop in one of it's bigger brothers which is a direct fit and the gremlin is showing tail to almost everyone. Strong cars.
@davosctaccoustic
5 жыл бұрын
I had a friend who had a stock Gremlin GT. It actually was pretty quick, being that the car didn’t weigh much.
@DizzyMan24
6 жыл бұрын
I had no idea they made a '74 GTO. It's a good looking car.
@ttlgunn
6 жыл бұрын
Lucas Arthurs It is a nice looking car but they said its ugly. Lol
@waterheaterservices
6 жыл бұрын
It's essentially a re-trimmed 73-74 Nova, "Ventura'.
@victorialouden1912
6 жыл бұрын
Lucas Arthurs I had one one paid 600.00 for it in 1984
@fvgc454ss
5 жыл бұрын
With a trans am shaker hood.
@MrJohnnyDistortion
5 жыл бұрын
Pontiac also made a Sprint model Vetura I knew someone that had a 350 standard transmission model and dropped in a 1970 455 375 HP/525 FT/LBS torque from a Bonneville. Those were stock HP numbers. The csr was very fast with 3:90 gears but should have had 3:23 gears with that long stroke 455. Fun times. It had the functional GTO shaker, hood and ralley gauges. It handled incredibly well.
@1983jblack
5 жыл бұрын
By '74, the only performance engines really left were the SD-455 at 290 hp, 440 Magnum at 275 hp, and the 351-4V at 255 hp. The base 400 in the Trans-Am only put out 225 hp so the GTO wasn't too bad for the times.
@lovethesmellofracefuelinth7374
6 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding, the Duster at 6:29 isn't exactly slow. I don't think that it belonged in this vid, it rocked
@normestits3317
6 жыл бұрын
I had a 70's era duster with a straight 6 and my father got a deal on some yellow school bus paint. Needless to say I never got laid in that car.....
@johncheves4740
6 жыл бұрын
With the school bus paint and the slant 6's indestructibility, it could keep you a virgin for life. It's interesting how from the factory, a slant 6 Duster is a miserable looking dog of a car. But dropping a 340 0r 360 in it, and getting some decent rubber and wheels under it completely transforms it into a badass machine.
@krb5292
6 жыл бұрын
My very first car was a Dodge Dart coupe that had the same body style as the Duster. 318, three-on-the-FLOOR, aftermarket FM radio (no stock radio, not even a hole for one.) It was a bit better than basic transportation for a college sophomore. I don't know about you, but the back seats were quite capable of, um, THAT.
@getsmarter5412
6 жыл бұрын
Lost my cherry in a baby blue '67 goat.
@duster7275
6 жыл бұрын
Honestly sounds like it was mostly you because my '72 Duster with a slant 6 has gotten me a lot of good attention and I have gotten laid with that car a few times now.
@roadrunner40
6 жыл бұрын
My 1974 Duster with 318, candy red with black stripes, good looking interior was beautiful and a drew lots of attention. But it was no hot rod.
@cababy1296
6 жыл бұрын
yes the Volare was never considered a muscle car but it had fine Corinthian leather! Lol
@gregoryshaffer6102
6 жыл бұрын
Vincent Thomas : Oh how l yearn for a car with Corinthian Leather.
@hulavaultboy5935
6 жыл бұрын
Vincent Thomas As did the Chrysler Cordova and Dodge Magnum.
@2bitmarketanarchist337
6 жыл бұрын
Vincent Thomas you're thinking of the cordoba...
@KCFlyer2
6 жыл бұрын
And Chrysler never made a 316 Now...the 318 wasn't a bad engine, but it certainly wasn't a muscle car
@wadeguidry6675
6 жыл бұрын
Da plane! Da plane!
@bruschmidt9943
5 жыл бұрын
People have to remember (or realize), back in the day, those ultra-low hp V8's were a big step up in performance over their 4 & 6 cylinder offerings. Typically inline 6's barely broke 100 hp, while I-4's were in the 70 hp range. Comparatively, these were mid 70's "Performance" machines LoL.
@nickellis8062
6 жыл бұрын
worst and slowest non of these cars have original motors to me this a joke
@tomjohns5146
6 жыл бұрын
ok=i love cock in my arse==:)
@fast03vette4me
6 жыл бұрын
As long as you felt groovy in your car,,,, you were probably groovy in your car. Just punch holes in the muffler with an ice pick,,, instant Hot Rod. Stickers never hurt either, if I saw a STP sticker on your ride, I knew you were a real race car driver.
@moparchallenger749
5 жыл бұрын
Les Rosin I remember 😎
@f0ckdumont
4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Horsepower smoking his cigar on the window told you all you needed to know.
@jrg7951
6 жыл бұрын
The strict emissions standards didn't allow aggressive camshafts like we had in the 1960s. So you could get a great engine with a puny gas-saving carb and a very mild gas-saving camshaft. Pop in an aggressive cam and larger Carb and you have 1960s performance instantly. I would never pass up buying any of these cars in excellent condition because of 1 or 2 seconds difference between them and their 60s counterparts in the quarter mile.
@calripson
3 жыл бұрын
The heads were usually crap.
@warrennewman9861
6 жыл бұрын
The black car in the GTO segment is a regular Ventura, and the Gremlin GT was never a muscle car. AMC had discontinued their 304 Gremlin after the '76 model year... quite a bit of misinformation in this video.
@forwarddrive4066
6 жыл бұрын
Tyler Clarke Well said, thanks, this video is only good for pics, not info... I agree
@extremedrivr
5 жыл бұрын
The Gremlin GT never a muscle car?? You have go to be kidding. AMC was always under appreciated by a lot of people and still is to this day. They made some cool cars that were sleepers.
@daddyo5320
6 жыл бұрын
Ive owned a couple of the aspen R/T s always did a lil work under the hood,,put a 70 340 &727 in one ,,it was pretty quick,,loved that car !!
@pierredecine4386
6 жыл бұрын
It didn't take much to wake that AMC 304 up - I had friends then who had Gremlins that would fly...
@Stillstoned1
6 жыл бұрын
uh huh
@timcoker4685
6 жыл бұрын
I had a 304 in a 1974 Javelin, small cam,headers,performance intake and Holley 650,340 gear. This was in the early 2000s and that car would smoke most of the newer high performance cars. It would smoke Mustang GTs and Trans Ams all day,plus the car looked awesome with it's cowl induction hood chin spoiler on front and tall spoiler on back.
@lonmcq7317
4 жыл бұрын
@@timcoker4685 650340 gear... must be a special grind...
@Titus-as-the-Roman
6 жыл бұрын
ImpactJunky is correct, something the majority of these kind of sites fail to mention. American manufacturers was using old carburetor/ pre-computer technology while trying to comply with Government pollution mandates, add to this very bad quality controls, poor designs and almost no rust protection and the net effect was the worst period in American automobile manufacturing.
@Dewitt-b8n
6 жыл бұрын
It was a bad time for anything you can call performance wise musclecars
@billyW-d2j
6 жыл бұрын
Titus Tucker. Truth!
@kingssuck06
6 жыл бұрын
This guy gets it
@christhomas1708
6 жыл бұрын
Actually the worst years were from 1982 into the mid 90's. The mid to late 70's cars were crippled by government mandates resulting in low hp V8 engines, "spaghetti" emission hoses, and oversized bumpers, however they could be easily modified with replacement performance parts and painting the bumpers either black or body color. The first 10-15 years of the "computer" generation saw the end of rear wheel drive, temperamental computer controlled carburetors/ finicky fuel injection, smaller interior space, paper thin sheet metal, excessive amounts of low quality plastics from the bumper covers to much of the interior, V8's replaced by the V6 and 4 cylinder, and even worse body styles. In addition they were death traps in an accident. People in 1970's cars were injured either by lack of seat belt use, or high speed accidents and roll overs. The mid to late 1970's cars weren't pretty or powerful in stock form but like a high school nerd spending 5 years in the gym they could be transformed into a kick ass machine that makes panties wet.
@generalxanos
6 жыл бұрын
Chris, have you ever owned a car from the 70's? The temperamental "computer" controlled carburetors/finicky fuel injection problems spanned from the 1900's to the 2000's, depending how many carbs, how many barrels, and where the carbs and engine were made, the date, and model. Gm's crossfire fuel infection system, for example. It boosted performance compared to normal aspiration, but it was still garbage. Modern engines have programmable eeproms, so we can mod them, but back in those days, we had intake/fuel (change jets, barrels), compression, ignition, output, and that was it. Catalytic converters caused too much backforce so airflow was interrupted, even if you used air induction or supercharger/turbochargers, if you can't spit it out, it's stuck.
@carloschavez5368
4 жыл бұрын
I remember my 1979 magnum gt it was loaded with factory options except engine horse power only a 318 lean burn . with in 9 months i collected a rebuilt a 440-4v and a 727 QF trans only had to modify the left side motor mount bracket . i had plenty of HP under the hood . one option that no other magnum had was extended urethane fender flares very rare. Car was white w/thin red pin stripe , great riding for long trips even the 440 was good turning 3.21 gears -9 1/4 posi all 4 disc . i ordered the fender badges "440 MAGNUM " it fit the combination great . At 3600 lbs it was a sleeper i raced a buick grand national which i barely beat. My friends called the magnum the" flying white refrigerator " i ran one night on the Florida turnpike stretch putting the speedo needle straight down on the odometer about 160 MPH , max reading was 140 . i love that car till the rust monster ate it and i scrapped it in 1990 motor and transmission then got install in a 1980 Plymouth trail duster lifted w40 " tires and 1 ton axles . end of my going fast days , beginning of getting muddy days which still do till present day of 56 years of age plus no more speeding tickets since . i now own a 1975 power wagon dually w/ 5.9 Cummins equipped w/40k pto rear winch 200 ft.- 1/2 cable, 35" tires. owned since 1989 and gets driven every weekend to my hunting camp / property 89 miles away . i still ponder seeing the 70's - 80's cars and times. It sucks getting old.
@Badger32284
4 жыл бұрын
Best part of the video is when the guy filming the Gremlin shouts "Wooo"!😂😂😂
@lexalford358
6 жыл бұрын
I had a78 dodge magnum and I swapped out the engine and started racing it trust me no one thought it was underpowered. Of course I got rid of all that emission garbage and seriously modified the engine. It was not very difficult to really get it to be fast. In fact I swore off big block after I stood it on the rear bumper on a launch.
@MrMopar45895
6 жыл бұрын
I wish I had one of them rare 316 v8s I would give my right arm and left leg for one. how old is the maker of this video 12?
@matthewmcpeek7324
6 жыл бұрын
Although you are correct about the very low horsepower numbers that were offered in the stock engines, it's interesting to note that most of the cars you're showing you can tell by sound, have had serious engine upgrades. You can tell by the cam lope that these cars that originally came with 140-160 170 horsepower engines have been modified in those particular cars you show. I wouldn't be surprised if there were some three to four hundred horsepower small blocks in some of these cars.
@lukesil7887
6 жыл бұрын
You think that GTO was ugly? Take a look at the 2004 Pontiac GTO next to that car.
@brandonmccollum6349
5 жыл бұрын
Our 04 to 06 gto is far from ugly, but it's just an opinion, some people argue that the 74-78 mustang is the best looking model/gen, I think beer Google laser vision is the reason!!
@oldiron1223
6 жыл бұрын
The Corvettes of that era were pathetic. L48 standard engine in a Vette was only making about 200 HP. Government smog motors sucked!!!
@scdevon
6 жыл бұрын
The dark ages.
@BuzzLOLOL
6 жыл бұрын
The L48 was 165 netHP... the hyper L82 was 180 - 205 netHP depending on the year...
@SorryWereOpen247
6 жыл бұрын
oldiron1223 .... Corvette is not a muscle car
@aaronrainey788
6 жыл бұрын
L48 made 165 in 1975 I think. Not much more than that in other years.
@brianteed7390
6 жыл бұрын
My dads 76 Corvette was rated at 180 or 190 horse I believe.
@brianmoney410
6 жыл бұрын
Even being a poor performer that Magnum at the end was a great looking car, especially for its time.
@ScottJohnson4449
4 жыл бұрын
You could order a 400 4 bbl!
@ScottJohnson4449
4 жыл бұрын
Hot Rod did a build up of one. It looked good!
@rbmcobra
6 жыл бұрын
The Mustang II you showed was not a King Cobra, but a Cobra II. The King Cobra had a reversed hood scoop, Wheel spats in front of the back wheels, and a front air dam. (not a lip spoiler)
@4evertony1
5 жыл бұрын
This video is very accurate. When I was a child, my mother actually owned a Gremlin. I liked it back then. Now, I would own one just for novelty purposes only. Once the Gremlin conked out, my mother bought a Chevy Nova. Now that's a beautiful car.
@davidpatten4854
6 жыл бұрын
The Phoney Claim of global warming due to emission exhaust along with lowering compression ratio's, pollution control robbed HP and killed the muscle car.
@davidpatten4854
6 жыл бұрын
John Smith, Cut it Out! There are more proficient cheaper energy sources that they don't want us to know about!
@Snowcrest289
5 жыл бұрын
@@davidpatten4854 Who are "they"?
@ragintaurusmusclemercury7023
6 жыл бұрын
I would take anyone of these cars in a heartbeat. Yeah they are slow but in the 70s 99% of the was. Restore them, soup up the drivetrain, and you will turn heads more than driving a new muscle car.
@Stylensky
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah sure. Drive your restored Plymouth Volare to a car show and park it next to a new Challenger or Camaro and see which one gets you laid. LMFAO!!! yeah, it will "turn heads" alright. They'll turn and LAUGH at you.
@justinhubbard3097
6 жыл бұрын
And what kind of car do you drive?
@ragintaurusmusclemercury7023
6 жыл бұрын
Stylensky Old cars are desirable. Especially rare ones and I am a father of 4 and a grandfather. I don't need a nice car to "get laid." That being said if you have one of these oddities, restore it, put some decent power train in it, you will draw a crowd at a car show. Especially the younger kids who never seen one of them before. I had plenty of old cars that people gave the thumbs up to over the years. A '78 Mercury Cougar XR-7 with a 5.0, '73 Chevelle Malibu SS with a 454, '78 Camaro LT with a cammed 350, '96 Ford Taurus SHO, and right now I am working on a supercharged V6 to put in a '07 Ford Taurus SE. You are very opinionated about something you don't know anything about. My I ask what do you drive?
@ragintaurusmusclemercury7023
6 жыл бұрын
Justin Hubbard I'm going to guess he drives a Honda Accord his dad bought him. Lol!
@scootergeorge9576
6 жыл бұрын
Or a Civic with a 6" diameter exhaust tip.
@erickort1987
6 жыл бұрын
my buddy had a king cobra,he dropped in a 69 mustang 302, put high performance parts into the engine,it brought the front wheels off the ground at a holeshot
@chada75
6 жыл бұрын
Not only were the HP numbers was low due to the Emissions added to the cars but also in 1972, The SAE changed how the manufacturers measured HP and Torque. Instead of only measuring the power,, everyone had to run all of the accessories including the AC on the engine during testing.
@davosctaccoustic
5 жыл бұрын
Birdup4life you are right. Also HP in the 60’s was measured at the crank, the 70’s was at the wheels.
@doolindanger2459
6 жыл бұрын
If it was built after 1971 then it's probably not a muscle car. There are the rare exceptions, but none of these cars are "Muscle Cars".
@extremedrivr
5 жыл бұрын
There are plenty of Muscle Cars built after 1971. You are just not willing to accept the facts.
@pontiacgrandprix733
6 жыл бұрын
Friend of mine bought the 77 Aspen R/T with the 360 in it, black car black interior, orange stripes, oh did I forget to mention he removed the smog 360 and threw in a balanced and blueprinted 440, lotta people thought he was all stickers at the red lights in bronx NY, lotta people lost they're money too
@billyW-d2j
6 жыл бұрын
John Oliveri. A lot of these youngsters on these comments sections do not understand that you can take any one of these engines and strip the emissions, port the heads, install pre 1972 higher compression pistons and BOOM! Ya gotcha self a real bad ass muscle car engine.
@ThatBobGuy850
6 жыл бұрын
Did he take it out to the Connecting Highway? Ah, those were the days!
@pontiacgrandprix733
6 жыл бұрын
Actually we went out there prior to that car, first round when the Camaros and Goats still ruled the earth, 340 Dister that really had a 440, 65 GTO w a stolen 396 in it from am abandoned El Camino, worked on those cars in the street on your back, I was a kid guys across the street were older, we were outside Thanksgiving 73 with a Con ed curtain around the GTO installing the motor by a light pole that we plugged in to for power, my mother was having a fit, I was 12 years old the guys were 16, guess what, conned my mother into letting us put the goat in our garage, to finish it and the neighbors wouldn't think I was bad for being out all night, started that car up Friday morning 830 am open headers chandelier in the house was shaking, and I got to ride shotgun, those were the days!!!
@kennethlikens5396
6 жыл бұрын
The 74 GTO with a 200HP 350 was almost as fast as the 64 GTO with a 325HP 389 4bbl. Also, the 78 Dodge Magnum GT was available with a 190HP 400 V8. For the seventies, acceleration was pretty darn good.
@moejr1974
6 жыл бұрын
The 64 GTO 325 HP and the 74 GTO were within .05 seconds of each other.
@blakenewton2781
6 жыл бұрын
Ok. I know a lot about the Mopars here. What isn't understood is there were some ways to get some extra punch under the hood. You had to understand how to check off the right boxes though. With the Aspen/Volare twins you could get a 360 four barrel. You also had to order a Sure-Grip. In Canada you got a dual exhaust that dumped into a single resonator without catalytic converters. Then you could get the "Kit Cars" which offered better handling. The "R/T and RoadRunner" were appearance packages on the Aspen/Volare twins. The "Cordoba" cars could also be ordered properly. Mine was. It was a Canadian car and had no catalytic converters, a dual ehaust and being a '75 did not have lean burn. It had the biggest engine you could get in a two door B-body which was a 400 four barrel(NOT a 440). One of the best Mopar muscle cars was a 75 to 78 Fury or Monaco four door which did have a 440 and was the police pursuit cars. This car was one of a small percentage of cars in that era that could go past 130 MPH. Today it is relatively easy to re-build these cars and that is a point. Back "in the day" the original engines were low compression versions with mild camshafts and rudimentary inefficient pollution control devices. A point to bring up is that two of Chrysler's least regarded engines back in the '70s are the two that now give the best performance. The 400's and 360's are the best base to build a performance stroker engine.
@kevinpatrick8788
5 жыл бұрын
Blake Newton very true. people forget the dodge little red express truck and the warlock with the e58 360 engine was the fastest american production vehicle in 78-79 . father hemi tom hoover got around the crappy emissions regulations but putting those trick e58 heads on the 360 and stuffed it in a pickup truck. pure genius
@2RCPRODUCTIONS
6 жыл бұрын
Tearing up all the Mopars of this era but what about the Dodge lil red express truck for 78/ 79. Smogged out 360 v8 pick up truck that had the fastest production vehicle title in the USA. It could pull down 15 second quarter which for that time in a pick up truck was impressive! Btw stock examples for this video would have been better for the people that maybe have never seen the originals. At the time of these vehicles performance enthusaists we're happy to see some attention to performance even if only in the handling and cosmetic department. At the time they were cool to car guys.
@blakenewton2781
6 жыл бұрын
The LRE was brought into being because Chrysler understood that the only way to get performance in a vehicle in 1978. Federal emissions exempted light trucks in that year. No lean burn or catalytic converters in 1978. By 1979 the party was over. Chrysler installed catalytic converters on them. By 1980 it was gone.
@2RCPRODUCTIONS
6 жыл бұрын
Blake Newton Very good sir, I do remember reading the difference between 78 and 79 thanks for bringing that up. I always liked the lil red and warlock and although climbing in value probably 1 of the only Mopars you can get now that are somewhat affordable still...
@mattera39
6 жыл бұрын
2RCPRODUCTIONS The 1978 Plymouth Fury 440 police package is a really fast car compared to anything in that era they ran a quarter mile in the 14.5 second range and top out at over 130 mph nothing in that era would touch it
@2RCPRODUCTIONS
6 жыл бұрын
Scott B Very Cool I wasn't aware of that package. It wasn't a production car and was an order only police setup. They really beefed up the internals and had a top speed of 133 mph. But it had a 0 to 60 of 9.2 it had 255 hp and 355 lb torque, there's no way that was running a 14.5 1/4 in that heavy car, but none the less very cool find!👍👍
@blakenewton2781
6 жыл бұрын
You could get close. Order a Fury in 1978 with a 440, get S13 power Steering, Sure-Grip and the XHD cooling package and you are really, really close. The 100 Amp alternator was spec'd to run the light bars and the siren and radio. The odd thing is that I witnessed the late '70s Fury still being used more than a decade later. In the '80s the cop cars were so pathetic that they held on to the Fury for a long, long time. The majority of Fury's the cops used had nothing more than a 318 or 360 in it. Some urban police cars even had a 225 under the hood. BTW, I have heard of Duster 360's being used as pursuit cars, but the cops just did not like them. No room for perps in the back or body armour or other stuff in the trunk. But hey cops now don't want a squad car, they want a LAAV armored personnel carrier. or a main battle tank.
@SorryWereOpen247
6 жыл бұрын
Remember the 1974 Chevrolet laguna S3 ???...That thing had a smog 454 with duals and a 4-speed FROM THE FACTORY !!!! That was one of the 2 fastest production cars POST-EMISSION. Only the "SD455" Trans-am (same year) was faster.
@SorryWereOpen247
6 жыл бұрын
Crown Commando .... Still standing by my initial statement....Smog pumps was just a device to provide additional air through the exhaust to "cut" the percentage of carbon gases released and emissions actually started in 1966. Wasn't til 1972-on that emissions became stringent. No more Texaco Superchief was available nor any of the other brands of hi-octane leaded. My brother bought a brand new S3 with options in 74....Still got it today including the build sheet !...A flat-out pig in the quarter, But the "Flyin-mile" was a bigger difference than night vs day !!! His "Nam" buddy was already back with a 1971 Plymouth Road Runner that had a 440 with the 160mph speedo and it couldn't even outrun that S3 in the quarter let alone the stretch. Those 71' Hemis' that you're bragging about were rated (Not net) HP depending on application including which body code. That 1969 DZ Camero 302 with a 4.88 rear and a 2.64 1st can run 12.40s in the quarter depending on the driver WITH that pump onboard. I went 14.07 30 years ago with my 71' Chevelle SS(402/4 spd) stock with a Rochester/cast iron manifold and I'm not the greatest "stick-shifter", So I don't get too involved when it comes to factory numbers as it relates to "Specs"....Thanks for your rebuttal !
@jeffwilson4243
6 жыл бұрын
twilight's last gleaming. The 1977 Trans am with the T/A 6.6 was faster. My friend had a T/A 6.6 automatic. It smoked that S-3 454. That guy came up with a 100 excuses why he lost. Typical Chevy guy
@ae86hachi
6 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that loves the Mustang II Cobra? Slap a set or rear window louvers on there and it's drop dead gorgeous to me. I guess beauty really is in the eye of the beholder.
@truckerkevthepaidtourist
6 жыл бұрын
I love that one Farrah Fawcett drove it rest in peace Farrah on Charlie's Angels
@paulanger2048
4 жыл бұрын
There was a black one on my paper route when I was a kid. You are not alone. I still think it looked great.
@hellfire8883
6 жыл бұрын
Wow they didn't even put a lsd on the 74 gto. What a shell of its former glory.
@gwmcklintock
6 жыл бұрын
316? Try 318 pal... Anything with a V8 is better than anything with a four-cylinder or V-6 regardless of the performance. For no other reason than they sound way better...
@BuzzLOLOL
6 жыл бұрын
This guy knows nothing about cars... just makes videos to get clicks...
@waterheaterservices
6 жыл бұрын
My 79 Dodge St Regis had a 316... a 318 with lotsa carbon build up.
@justenough730
6 жыл бұрын
Anything is better than a Ford
@kiprandom7208
6 жыл бұрын
These are coke snortin disco mobile's. Everything was slow back then.
@wadeguidry6675
6 жыл бұрын
John Sendzimer "Coke snorting disco mobiles".....I've gotta write a song around that concept.
@kiprandom7208
6 жыл бұрын
Wade Guidry just make sure its a fun song. Something like plush interior slow on the go. Jungle Bush and coke snortin disco. Likes girls that don't like bras. Disco mobile Chrysler Cordoba. I'm into stoner rock
@wadeguidry6675
6 жыл бұрын
John Sendzimer I play stoner rock. I like The Sword, Kyuss and some heavier sludge like Crowbar, COC and Down. Thanks for the cool lyrics.
@kiprandom7208
6 жыл бұрын
Crown Commando oh yes it did
@jeffdalrymple1634
6 жыл бұрын
Funny, but the video failed to mention the mid to late 70s Fire Birds and Cameros and Monte Carlo SSs of the 80s; were both big, clumsy and severely under powered. They sold those by far greater number than anything mentioned here.
@generalzod7959
6 жыл бұрын
I love the half-hearted yell when the gremlin does the weak peel-out!😆
@davidjackson2524
6 жыл бұрын
I live over in Ireland and I'm puzzled as to how you get only 150 - 200 hp from a 5L V8 in these muscle cars. Modern rally cars do more than that HP with half that engine capacity.
@wesleyronne4685
6 жыл бұрын
they had just got heavy emission regulations
@eEnzo0
6 жыл бұрын
That didn't stop BMW E21 323 to make 141hp with a 2.3L engine from '78 to '82, and to have also good emissions.
@michaellorenz7177
6 жыл бұрын
The 70's were a different time here in the states... The big 3 were selling big V-8 powered coupes and sedans, and there weren't so many gov't regulations. Gas was cheap and plentiful. When OPEC shut off the taps in 73, the big 3 didn't have small cars or engines ready for market, so they had to adapt 5-8 litre engines to get better fuel economy. In 75, catalytic converters were mandated, choking down these engines even more, along with a serious drop in compression ratio.(We're talking going from 11-12:1 to less than 8:1 in some cases to utilize unleaded gasoline) With the technology and aftermarket support that exists today, any of these "disco-mobiles" could be what their muscle car forebears were or better. The truth is, even though the video claims poor driving dynamics, these vehicles often stopped, turned and drove better than cars from the 60's. Personally, I like the cars from this era, there was still at least some semblance of styling, unlike the anonymous blobs of today's cars.
@JossshyB
6 жыл бұрын
US emission standards were far more strict then European standards of the day. The E21 323 was never sold in the US because it did not pass emissions. US just got a watered down 320 instead.
@60andcuriousrobson13
6 жыл бұрын
These large V8's were chocked by low compression, which was required to not produce NOx emissions. Fuel was limited by a carburetor.s inability to deliver a balanced amount of gasoline to each cylinder. And then there was the backpressure of the catalytic converter. there was an inability of the American engineers to tune their engines. Performance began to improve with fuel injection, then anti-knock spark control, 3-way catalyst the general improvement of cylinder head design and valve and camshaft profile developments
@llatimer2
6 жыл бұрын
This thanks to Ralph Nader, Ed Musky and the democrats
@rjalexander4765
6 жыл бұрын
llatimer2 yes Nader screwed the pooch
@mikespillman3075
6 жыл бұрын
The Chevy Malibu laguna S3.....with a 454....my personal favorite worst.
@joeblow800
6 жыл бұрын
You know nothing about American cars. None of the cars in this video are musclecars. Your videos are always full of misinformation! It is fun to watch your videos just to see how far from the facts you actually are.
@joeeckert5128
6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't consider any of these muscle cars. Plus they seem to be making up their stats in a lot of cases. I can't find mention of a Gremlin ever having a V8. The original 199 cu. 6 cyl. made 128 hp in '70. No 304 V8s anytime. With all the other BS, I quit watching after that.
@GFRzeszutek
6 жыл бұрын
AMC made the Gremlin X that had the V8.
@rickjankowski3123
6 жыл бұрын
Joe Eckert Gremlin X a kid I went to school had one
@annamckinney6622
6 жыл бұрын
I checked wikipedia, appears they made quite a few..826 with the 304. It says they made 40,994 v8 gremlins between 1972 to 1976. You are right that there were none in 1970 but they didn't say that.
@marioncobaretti2280
6 жыл бұрын
there was a gremlin X back then , a girlfriend of mine in 83 had a mint one all original with a 304
@glenparks5175
6 жыл бұрын
My brother had a gremilinx it had a 304 v8 trust me I was there I'm 58 years old I remember
@mikstu3327
5 жыл бұрын
I will say watching the gremlin do a burnout was absolutely hilarious, I'm still laughing 😂😂😂
@marleyjp043
6 жыл бұрын
4rd
@marleyjp043
6 жыл бұрын
Can you sub to me I will sub back
@keithabbatoy4043
6 жыл бұрын
4th
@alexgoucher3114
6 жыл бұрын
Mjpw cars Cars 1rd
@johnbroughton3401
6 жыл бұрын
Did they video the Gremlin footage during an earthquake?
@sept64
3 жыл бұрын
offene Richterscala > 6
@theoriginalmungaman
6 жыл бұрын
Another thing about horse power is that in 72 all cars were rated with all accessories. Prior to 72 engines were rated gross with no accessories. A 350 hp gross rating would be high 200's rated net.
@muznick
6 жыл бұрын
Those horrible '70s bumpers ruined everything.
@keithdaniels1994
6 жыл бұрын
Almost to painful to watch. This is why I hate big bumper cars.
@aa64912
6 жыл бұрын
Putting “SS” on a four door car does not make it a muscle car, if it had four doors you can call it a Dodge Charger all you want but it’s not one. I also agree with the assessments in this video
@aa64912
6 жыл бұрын
John Smith when were you born? Get magazines from the 1960,s the muscle car era. SS, SFx, AA, drag cars pro-stock, street legal were all two doors, Malibu SS, Impala SS, Mopar muscle cars. Even AMC had the AMX and the Javelins. Ford had high performance Galaxies and other models, all two doors. Buick had the Grand Sport, Pontiac the GTO and Grand Prix both two doors, no four door options on and of these cars etc. the Dodge Challenger and chargers were alway two doors.
@manthony1956
6 жыл бұрын
I worked for Avis in the middle 1970s, and even though they featured Chrysler products, depending on which stations you worked out of, I drove everything from the lowliest of Datsun B210 automatics to the then new Cadillac Seville. What I remember most was not only was the performance of these vehicles lacking, the fuel mileage was atrocious on all V8s, even though the final drives were about 3.00 to 1 or numerically lower in an effort to increase mileage, which also hurt the performance.
@moonbeamskies3346
6 жыл бұрын
These are some of my favorite muscle cars.
@dudeevil8548
6 жыл бұрын
"Everybody agrees the 1974 Ventura GTO was a terrible, ugly and slow muscle car with a famous name." I disagree...
@Snowcrest289
5 жыл бұрын
Well...…..It certainly is an embarrassment to use the GTO name compared with the 1960s GTOs.
@josegutierrez3799
5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call the car "Ugly". Bland, Boring, Mundane, YES. Ugly, nah.
@kevinsomosot9976
5 жыл бұрын
That car is nice, but since that 1973 oil crisis and emissions regulations broke in, it's the time that all muscle cars' performance has started to deteriorate.
@slyane7320
4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't ugly,but a built small block could make it a beast
@lonmcq7317
4 жыл бұрын
@@slyane7320 A Nova with a hood scoop... That should bring you back to Earth... Garbage...
@rogermason1674
6 жыл бұрын
Thx for taking me back to the nightmare that was 70's era impostor muscle cars. Proof that appearance packages and re-application of legendary 60's model names did not get you much. These cars are perfect examples of putting "lipstick on a pig".
@ralphsmallblock4367
6 жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget the corvette c3 slow
@anthonymarlow2269
6 жыл бұрын
That GTO at the beginning has a nova body shape lol.
@six-pack1332
6 жыл бұрын
Anthony Marlow Pontiac version of the Nova was the Ventura.
@Impalaman1968
6 жыл бұрын
The really funny thing is,when I was a kid back in the 70's, I actually thought these cars were real muscle cars, mainly because of the cool stripe and badge packages! Little did I know that that's all they were....stripes and badges! Absolutely no real power under the hood. My mom had a 77 Gremlin X ( Orange too) similar to the one in this video. Except hers only had the 258 in line 6 cylinder engine. I used to drive it to school. ...it NEVER got any respect in the parking lot. But...I was driving, not beating feet or riding the bus, so I was happy! And it was definitely NOT a chick magnet either! Thankfully I already had a steady girlfriend before I started driving the car, so I wasn't competing with the guys who had the Chevelle's, Nova's, and Mustangs. ..etc.
@josephsolis3018
6 жыл бұрын
GTO great name. I had a Ford Pinto once but would never stick the name Mustang GT on it! In Mexico you cant buy a Nova. Nova means in English: will not go!
@MrHypervtwin
6 жыл бұрын
Slow or not, all those cars in the video sounded pretty bad ass!
@ScytheNoire
5 жыл бұрын
It's almost as if there was some oil crisis in the mid-70s that caused auto makers to change their engine strategies.
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