“You’re not stuck here with an evil snake boi.” *”You’re just stuck with a snake boi”*
@galacticfire3458
4 жыл бұрын
I loved that scene, cause it was so hecking adorable
@kodywise8152
4 жыл бұрын
That is my favorite scene in the whole video not gonna lie😂
@annaf2370
4 жыл бұрын
Dakota Wise That and when Deceit first showed himself were my two favourites :D
@LunarEclipse23YT
4 жыл бұрын
Something not a lot of people might not agree with me on but I never considered Deceit or Janus "EVIL". What I noticed that from his first appearance to this video, he has toned down the lying. And during the first "Selflessness vs Selfishness" he was trying to get everyone to listen to him and show Thomas that not all situations will end perfectly like in the other videos. He wasn't a villain, he was an anti-hero trying to help Thomas just in a different way the the others aren't used to, like Virgil. But unlike Virgil who when he opened up got support from everybody and now everyone listens to his opinions, Janus tried but no one except Patton and Thomas accepted him.
@BerkelEHaluesen
4 жыл бұрын
In the name of honest discussion I will admit that I originally thought he was evil. Probably because the idea of lying to oneself is something I find very harmful and something to try hard to avoid. Lying to others is subjective, but lying to yourself is almost always negative. Selfishness v Selflessness made him out to be more interesting to me, and showed that he had more on his mind than just being the bad guy and driving Thomas towards bad things. But this episode is what made me actually root for Janus. Which by the way is an excellent name. ^_^ I actually think the others have the best names.
@caramel_frappe
4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, I surprisingly agree with you😁
@VioletStreak02
4 жыл бұрын
Same I also think Remus isn’t evil either (I think the last dark side is going to be truly evil) I think that Remus is just difficult at expressing his opinions base of where he came from of romans unloved brother
@dibzybd9741
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I also started suspecting that there was more to Janus’ character than we thought when he stated that he didn’t want Thomas to be harmed by society during the first SvS video.
@wrenforest2139
4 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY Enderchild! When Roman was saying Janus is evil I just thought of Virgil's one line, " I'm not always the bad guy. " The same goes for Janus, sometimes people lie to protect themselves and others, it isn't always to do the wrong things.
@lisa101561
4 жыл бұрын
Everyone prepare your shields the unsympathetic!patton fans are gonna be going to town over on tumblr
@DEMO25659
4 жыл бұрын
Why tho, this video proves the unsympathetic patton theory wrong. He even accepted Deceit and started to bond with him ! He feels super guilty for what he did, and it's been said that he has the best of intentions. I accept unsympathetic patton as an AU but never will I accept it as a "headcanon" because it's confirmed to be entirly false.
@lisa101561
4 жыл бұрын
@@DEMO25659 i know its just a few tumblr people ive seen basically jump to conclusions and start typing away before even finishing the episode and the result is basically a fandom war
@DEMO25659
4 жыл бұрын
@@lisa101561 It's a shame really I hope this "war" doesn't get too extreme, so far in the KZitem comments I haven't seen any unsypathetic patton comments so I guess were good here.
@oofdotjpg4637
4 жыл бұрын
Personally I really like Unsympathetic!Patton as an AU and enjoy the content, but I think it’s fairly obvious in canon that Patton, even when he has his questionable moments, is a genuinely good person and is absolutely trying his best to support and love everyone while taking care of his duties as a side! It’s a real shame there’s such conflict on tumblr though, I wish the fandom didn’t divide so easily :((
@MK-jw9xk
4 жыл бұрын
Itziel UwU yes and that’s a new problem, instead of supporting him when he obviously needs help- all he gets is hate.. I dislike this.
@purplebunn
4 жыл бұрын
Deceit wasn't Logan the whole time, Logan was pulled away with Deceit's cane when Patton used the skip button. So I'm pretty sure that's when they switch
@martawoznialis8075
4 жыл бұрын
Holy crap. I never noticed that until I saw this comment :0
@annaf2370
4 жыл бұрын
purplebunnygirl woah I didn’t even notice
@golden_tears_
4 жыл бұрын
That makes sense now that you’re saying it. I never noticed it but that one time was the only time there was a skip button even present. The skip button was also yellow, and he was pulled away by the cane which we see deceit have later when Patton is a frog. :0
@Azeriiall
4 жыл бұрын
Wait did Deceit have a cane in dwit or did he have a cane the whole time and I just didn’t notice.
@phoenixablaze649
4 жыл бұрын
Omg I didn't realize that
@morgolig6095
4 жыл бұрын
Janus has officially slithered his way into my heart, stolen all of the love I had left, and taken it for himself. Am I upset? No. No I’m not. Cause it’s rightfully his.
@deceitsanders5682
4 жыл бұрын
Hehe
@martawoznialis8075
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you that I dont mind virgil not being in the video, it would cause a turn in the episode and get off track to what the main point is. As people would like Virgil and Janus interacting , but yet again it would side track everything, to virgil siding with Roman to potentially crushing Virgil's character development by Roman's hurtful words. Virgil's presence in this would have caused more tension ( but I wouldn't mind a bit more angst ) Either way, I have a theory to why Virgil was not on the video , 1. He probably is still "recovering " from revealing himself that he was one of the dark sides and afraid of what Thomas might think if he showed up again. 2. His heightened anxiety / panic attacks, we saw in the intrusive thoughts video , how distressed he was when Remus was around, and maybe he didnt want Remus and Janus to stay for too long as it would cause virgil to freak out or have a even worse panic attack and probably hurt thomas .
@christinebourgeois23
4 жыл бұрын
I like your theories about why there was no Virgil. I have one idea of what it could be too. I believe it goes without saying that Virgil was very anxious/had heightened anxiety while at the wedding. It could also be that he was so drained from the wedding that he physically couldn't join the episode because that would be taking much more energy when he should be resting.
@katinthegetto2916
4 жыл бұрын
_He’s just social distancing-_
@dr.temperancebrennan
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not mad at Roman, not even close. He's been ignored so many times, and shut down, he was going to lash out at them eventually. He's most likely going to end up ducking out, hell, he even talked about it.
@Mari-uu5nu
4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I dont agree with what hes saying, but confused and hurt people lash out. And hes very confused and hurt right now
@thevoidstaresback2629
4 жыл бұрын
Im worried it might be a bit worse than just ducking out. Since Roman is very dramatic and keeps getting pushed out of the way, i think he might try to recombine with remus and become the original creativity
@dr.temperancebrennan
4 жыл бұрын
@@thevoidstaresback2629 it had to be conflicting for him, to go from being told not to trust Deceit, and being scolded for doing so, to being scolded because he doesn't trust Deceit when they tell him to.
@manhattant8139
4 жыл бұрын
Oof that would be a good plot point
@thevoidstaresback2629
4 жыл бұрын
Ryan . , . Definitely, and Roman doesn't know how to handle it because he's always been told he's the "good guy", he's having more trouble with things being complicated than Patton is and doesn't know how to ask for help... poor guy
@hummingbirdspark3998
4 жыл бұрын
Virgil: former dark side Deceit: formal dark side Remus: feral dark side
@t.wilson07
4 жыл бұрын
Who else noticed in the thumbnail Virgil is with the dark sides? Edit: So I rewatched the video and looked through the comments for the first time. When I read the comments, an account called 'thegamingtrash !' posted a comment expanding on this. I would recommend checking it out.
@StartrailSeeker
4 жыл бұрын
O nooooooo! That's so saddddddd.... but interesting!
@margaretconnor5623
4 жыл бұрын
I miss my favorite anxiety boy but I get why he's not in the episode. With how much he hates Janus, it would have side tracked everything. I imagine that he's probably curled up in his room having panic attacks from a) revealing himself before, b) Thomas' feelings on the call back/wedding causing massive amounts of anxiety, and c) overthinking how Thomas reacted to the dark side reveal so he's hiding in his room to deal with his attacks so he doesn't hurt Thomas any more than he's already hurting.
@golden_tears_
4 жыл бұрын
Margaret Connor yeah I agree, however I hope he’s in the next episode ;(
@FlowerNaga
4 жыл бұрын
JANUS!!! Deceit was and always will be my favorite side of all sides and characters(sorry you can't change that)
@neonheartzz
4 жыл бұрын
Ginny Fanders I agree 100%
@hanaeve__
4 жыл бұрын
Saaaame! He became my favorite in the first Selfishness vs Selflessness episode lol. Patton was my favorite before that.
@gilagal777
4 жыл бұрын
So, while I was watching the episode, one random thought crossed my mind. If they were questioning Thomas's morality, and Patton represents Thomas's morality, were they basically questioning Patton in his existence? Literally question what, how, and why he functions??
@oofdotjpg4637
4 жыл бұрын
IM GLAD SOMEONE ELSE WAS AS SHOOK AS I WAS ABOUT JANUS COMPARING ROMAN AND REMUS........ THAT T E A HOLY SHIT And goddddd I ADORE your reactions this entire episode, Thomas gave us that GOOD FOOD and I’m just!!! SO EXCITED, Sanders Sides is my hyperfixation right now--!!
@Baseiscc
4 жыл бұрын
Oof Dot JPG I KNOw it’s like no one remember how much he HATES being compared to Remus and how sensitive he is to that!!!!
@nickthedreamer4434
4 жыл бұрын
When it comes to Roman in this video, I think he's basically been sick and tired of not being a side that's been the most helpful in recent situations due to both being a puppet for Janus and literally knocked out of the conversation by Remus. And, even the last time they had a conversation about Selfishness vs Selflessness, it only brought Thomas pain, so Roman's ego is almost as hurt as Thomas to a point where he gets super aggressive and defensive around sides that have been antagonists in recent situations (extra so since it's the same 'antagonist' character from the last time they discussed this topic).
@LyxiLynnn
4 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice that Janus' lighting is now light instead of dark?
@sprumf
4 жыл бұрын
ALYXIS ;P WHAT- BDBBDSBWB
@gempuff1110
4 жыл бұрын
It's my belief that Deceit started impersonating Logan from when he was carried away by the hook after Patton pressed skip. You'll notice that the 'skip all' (all referring to all of Logan's new statements because after that he was Deceit?) button is black and yellow, which are typically associated with Deceit's outfit, and Logan from that point onwards uses language that is similar to Deceit talking, example- 'An innocent little lamb' (at 34:50) which I'm pretty sure he's said in a past video. Also, there's one bit where Logan sounds like Deceit at roughly 33:45 (tell me if you can hear it too, I don't know if it's intentional or not). And, he tells the others to correct him of he is wrong, which is something Logan doesn't usually say because he doesn't like being wrong (at 34:40). When Logan pops up after again after the hook takes him away, he is now going on about self-care a lot more than he was before too, which is something Deceit talks about, but so does Logan so the impersonation is less obvious. that's a theory! A sanders sides theory! (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong or show me some more points!)
@A_wild_pumpkin_appears
4 жыл бұрын
GemPuff11 another thing to support this theory, is if you look at deceits sprite when he’s fighting Lilypadton you can clearly see him holding a hook that looks identical to the one that pulled Logan offscreen
@gempuff1110
4 жыл бұрын
@@A_wild_pumpkin_appears ok thanks for that! I didn't notice Deceit's hook.
@mrswizzles01
4 жыл бұрын
Oh la la angst Edit: Don’t forget #Jadusisabean (This was from SlimySnekBoi ÙwÚ) Edit2: 26:24 Patton broke the fourth wall....
@mrswizzles01
4 жыл бұрын
Her reactions are a mood. I legit had the same reactions. (But my Favorite side was always Deceit)
@funkyhat8176
4 жыл бұрын
APersonIn Fandoms His name isn’t Judas it’s Janus
@mrswizzles01
4 жыл бұрын
Wulf Sorry it’s my autocorrect. I didn’t see it. (Plus I’m new with the name and I didn’t mean to offend anyone)
@dibzybd9741
4 жыл бұрын
26:24 i think that’s a reference to the last bloopers video
@mrswizzles01
4 жыл бұрын
Dibz YBD True dat 😂😂
@mollyharned6392
4 жыл бұрын
when logan was skipped he got hooked by Janis and that's when he took logans spot
@isabellakasser506
4 жыл бұрын
I was kinda mad at Roman after he started to talk down about Janus/Deceit, especially after he insulted his name. And I agree, Roman was kind of a villain at the end. I love the personality that Janus gives off. He will now hold a special place in my heart! 💛🐍
@morgolig6095
4 жыл бұрын
I was pissed at Roman when I first watched the video. He was so fucking rude to him. Now I realize that he has so much baggage and he really is just a mess.
@TheAngelofFate17
4 жыл бұрын
Midnight Kitten Deserved? No one ever deserves a hateful comment. Was Roman wrong for making fun Janus’ name? Yes. But did he deserve the comment that he was the evil twin instead of Remus, knowing full well that Thomas views him as a Prince, as the hero. No, he actually didn’t deserve that comment. That single comment has turned everything upside down for him. What he once perceived as true, that he was Thomas’ hero, that he was a good Side and that he wasn’t Remus completely turned everything on it’s head, and now he’s very likely scared and in pain. And no one, no one deserves to feel that way. Again, was he right to laugh at Janus’ name reveal when it was obvious that he was trying to be honest for once? No, it wasn’t. But that doesn’t mean that comment was something that Roman deserved to hear. Because now he’s ducked out, he’s hurt and freaking out that everything he’s ever known to be true, that he’s loved and good, now believes it’s all a lie that no one loves him, that he is evil, and he’s naturally, genuinely scared. And no one, not even someone as impulsive and overwhelming as Roman deserves to be called evil.
@kyrasan4916
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheAngelofFate17 He actually needed to hear that comment so he didnt go on with his self righteous bull against Janus. He needed to know he was wrong. And that comment turned everything around for him? I think not. Roman has been shown time and time again to question himself and not feel like he is good enough. One little joke to tell him he's being an ass wont ruin his world. The hard hitter was when Janus nodded after Thomas said Roman was still his hero, despite the nod clearly being misinterpreted.
@summanus4437
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheAngelofFate17 The only reason that comment is so hurtful to Roman is because of his narrow minded views though. Janus didn't deserve to hear that comment on his name either. You can't complain about people throwing a rock at you when you're the one who threw it at them first, while they were trying to make peace with you no less. It's one thing to be on guard about someone's intentions, it's another thing entirely to throw their gesture of good will back in their face. Roman brought it on himself.
@redballoon9007
4 жыл бұрын
Summanus Pax While Roman had no right to insult Janus’s name, he has a right to not trust Janus. Janus manipulated him multiple times. During CLBG Janus tricked Roman (and the others) into giving him the director role. He started to convince Roman that lying was the only way to help Thomas. Then in SvS, Janus was clearly sucking up to Roman in order to get him to completely side with Janus about Thomas going to the call back. If I was Roman, I wouldn’t fully trust Janus at this point either, but I know that not everything is black and white. But Roman doesn’t. When he accepted Virgil, he realized that Virgil has more to offer and that his anxiety isn’t all bad. But Janus lies a lot more than Virgil. So automatically, Roman is going to think of Janus as more evil. Janus is JUST beginning to be more truth full to the sides and Thomas, but it isn’t enough for Roman. Give it time and Roman will grow to at least trust Janus’s intent.
@annaf2370
4 жыл бұрын
Also I noticed something: Virgil in “accepting anxiety” was afraid to tell the others his name Because Remus had chastised him for having the name “Virgil” 😮
@zaynboo_3934
4 жыл бұрын
Patton somehow hissed.
@Smok_Argus
4 жыл бұрын
Virgil did communicate during the episode, and so did Remus. If you rewatch the Mario game, you can see purple words describing time as Wasted or Limited. At the same time, green numbers form BOOBS. Those were Remus and Virgil. Also, when you check it, it says AU in the middle. But much more interesting message is in the fighting/serving food minigame. 07734. ORAGNE SIDE JUST SAID HELLO Also, Roman snapped because if they are now looking at things in shades of gray instead of black and white, that means Thomas might even accept Remus as valid part of himself. Roman hates everything about his brother, so maybe he is also scared that, if Creativity (Romulus I guess) was split in the past, they might fuze back together. Roman is scared. He attacked Janus because he associates him with Duke. Additionally, LonAN, PattON and RomAN and RemUS, JanUS and... VirgiliUS - Virgil's dead name, teased in SvS and DWIT.
@summanus4437
4 жыл бұрын
That "Hello" is really omnious and foreboding tbh.
@christinebourgeois23
4 жыл бұрын
I have lots of ranting to do. I think it's a bit funny how all of the light sides don't like Janus because he represents lies, so they think he is going to make Thomas lie when it's the opposite. Janus wants Thomas to be a better person and cares about him (hence the scene when Patton turned into the frog and Janus was protecting Thomas), but he is doing it in a way that's different than what the light sides think, starting with getting Thomas to stop lying to himself (Selfishness v. Selflessness is the perfect example). Janus knows that he's getting Thomas to be a better person differently than the light sides and he knows it's more effective than their way. He also knows to be able to share his thoughts, he has to get trust (Janus saying "I don't have a simple answer to that question, but here's a start." in response to Roman asking how can they know that Janus can be trusted.), so he shares information with them that, when you think about it, he probably didn't think of sharing in the first place. But when he does so, Roman starts laughing at him and disrespecting him. Yes, I know he did that for Virgil, but he already was on a teasing level (unlike for Janus where you can tell he genuinely doesn't like him at all) and Roman did stop quickly. But for Janus, he LITERALLY made fun of his name and then straight up started talking about how he can't be trusted, a very b-word move. To bring up a thing he said after Patton stopped being a frog, he said: "...he's the actual snake on the plane." referring to the 2006 film Snakes On A Plane. The synopsis reads "FBI agent Neville Flynn (Samuel L. Jackson) boards a flight from Hawaii to Los Angeles, escorting a witness to trial. An on-board assassin releases a crate of deadly serpents in an attempt to kill the witness. Flynn and a host of frightened passengers and crew must band together to survive the slithery threat." Roman is trying to say that Janus is a snake, but in a rude way. Something Roman doesn't realize is that not all snakes are bad, like Janus. Many people, my family included, have snakes as pets and care for them deeply. Not all of them are like the ones in the movie Snakes On A Plane. But with this added to him blatantly being disrespectful to Janus about his names, Roman is started to become a villain-like side. To summarize this, screw Roman and he is a b-word.
@summanus4437
4 жыл бұрын
Most snakes aren't like that. The lovely little noodles just get a bad rep
@Itzmecrazy69
4 жыл бұрын
Wait when I was looking at the thumbnail of Thomas’s video I realized that it say “select a side” and I was looking at it and then I there were all the sides but one is empty so I was wondering if there is another side that we haven’t meet yet Oof
@clownemoji5395
4 жыл бұрын
nah it's clearly leslie odom jr.
@demonicartist1920
4 жыл бұрын
Note: Virgil is on the same row as the current dark sides, showing that Thomas sees him as a dark side after the last episode.
@Azeriiall
4 жыл бұрын
Gacha Turtle does this mean Virgil will have a second redemption arc?
@caramel_frappe
4 жыл бұрын
I just hoping it goes with the color scheme they have going on and it ends up being orange. ..... Cause... You know... Roman = red, ???=orange, Janus=yellow, Remus=green, Patton=blue, Logan=indigo, and Virgil=purple. I..wanted to explain
@summanus4437
4 жыл бұрын
@@demonicartist1920 Virgil was always a Dark Side. The point though, as emphasised by this episode, is that Dark doesn't mean Evil. Virgil isn't a Light Side by any means, but the only reason he ever caused problems for Thomas was because he was rejected.
@buzzsawenthusiast1756
4 жыл бұрын
Logan gets switched out with Janus when Patton uses the skip button and you see he gets yoinked by Janus's cane
@maddymiller4146
4 жыл бұрын
This episode gave Janus/Deceit a good side and I LOVE IT because snakes are most use to describe a bad person while snakes aren’t that bad, they’re trying their best to survive the cruel world that is out to get them, and we humans have hurt them before and they see us as the enemy. Snakes aren’t even that smart to size up their prey, they are opportunistic eaters and their brains are the size of a peanut so that means that the thing they know are how to survive. Which are hunting, eating, sleeping, mating, and how to stay away from predators which are important for their survival. Janus was entertaining for a while, when a character has to rely on stage presence then your character has fallen flat on their face, but if you add another depth to the character then there’s more realism to the character and it makes them relatable and extra fun to watch in my eyes. Janus made himself a greater character in this episode because he wasn’t just the facet that describe him, he represents dualism from his two headed snake logo, he was represented as a snake which are misrepresented as bad and dangerous creatures and need to be eradicated from the world, but they are extremely not that dangerous if you respect them by giving them their personal space. Janus made me fall for him when he was revealed but his performance felt stale in Selfishness vs Selflessness video when it was taking place during a courtroom theme but this episode brought his character right back and gave him another layer to him and he peeled back the first layer to getting to know him. As a wise man once said, people have layers just like onions have layers and in this episode we saw that Janus is more then deceit, he’s complex and represents dualism {Like I already said}. Like you said, there’s a lot to take in from this episode because we got -Deceit’s true name -More character depth for Patton and Deceit -Revealing that there’s more to Deceit then meets the eye -And more I agree that Virgil would’ve been holding the unlikable ball throughout the episode and it’d be hard to write him into the episode without making him look bad like Roman did. So all in all, this was an ESSENTIAL episode for the series because it gave us some information about Deceit/Janus and also gave us a hint that there’s one more dark side to reveal and we don’t know what’ll happen next. I loved this episode because it solidified my favorite character, Janus because of his complexity and how he has a two headed snake as his logo and my friends and family knows that I love snakes because they are interesting creatures. {1:06:40}
@who8926
4 жыл бұрын
I got really excited as I saw that you posted something but.. isn’t it like midnight/very early morning there right now?
@XephinaTheEleven
4 жыл бұрын
2:30 AM to be exact
@who8926
4 жыл бұрын
Oh my, it’s 2:58am over here but you need to get some sleep-
@Mari-uu5nu
4 жыл бұрын
Definetly on Janus's side (heh) with everything, but I cant help but feel bad for Roman. Clearly hes in the wrong here, but hes gotta be so confused. Every time hes gotten excited about or suggested doing something FOR Thomas, hes been shut down and told not to be selfish. So hes changed his ideal, tried to help Thomas be more Selfless, and now is being told off for it and IMMEDIATELY compared to his literally evil brother. But, someone he sees as a "bad guy" IS being listened to, to do the things he suggested forever ago. Idk man Virgil and Roman angst is coming
@kylegates5547
4 жыл бұрын
3:08 the words fall in to “crushed “ well crush’d
@Biowoman.
4 жыл бұрын
I think the moment Janus started impersonating Logan was when Patton pressed 'skip all', because Logan was pulled off by a cane that Janus was using.
@pip_a_doodle2175
4 жыл бұрын
Janus: imma snatch
@ultima1594
4 жыл бұрын
Deceit intention was never to hurt Thomas, he just wanted to help him. It just took Patton falling apart for them to realize that Patton was being toxic.
@georgiag2685
4 жыл бұрын
I made a realization. The blank character slot has the outline of Roman. I'M NOT READY!!!
@ThirdyMeowy
4 жыл бұрын
KING KING KING KING KING KING
@theoumber6604
4 жыл бұрын
However, I will say that since Roman, Patton, and Logan all are in the same position it's possible they were just using it as a placeholder silhouette
@ThirdyMeowy
4 жыл бұрын
@@theoumber6604 yeah, could be that.
@georgiag2685
4 жыл бұрын
@@theoumber6604 True
@leonthelad3208
4 жыл бұрын
There are no dark sides, not really. Roman's the one who named them that, even Virgil doesn't use the name 'Dark Sides'. That could be because of the hurt that name inflicts on him when he thinks about it being applied to him, or he could know that there is no good or bad, it's not black and white. Of course, if that were the case, then Remus wouldn't have been as big of a deal as he was to Patton and Virgil. Roman seems to be the only side left that truly sees things in complete black and white. Think about how long it took him to accept Virgil as a part of the group, and that was after Logan explained to him and the other sides how necessary Virgil is to Thomas. He just doesn't see that yet with Janus. This is my opinion. He sees Patton, Virgil, Thomas, and Logan as 'good', and Janus and Remus as 'bad'. With Patton, Thomas, and Logan agreeing with Janus, he sees that as them taking the opposite side rather than expanding their perception of Thomas as a whole. I think Roman just needs some time to learn and grow, and the main sides need to really help him with that. Janus has been tied with Virgil as my favorite ever since the first Selfishness vs. Selflessness video, so I may be a bit biased. I've broken down his argument so many times that I've always known that he just wants Thomas to do something for himself for once, haha.
@Fairygoblet
4 жыл бұрын
The dark sides are effectively Thomas's jungian shadow. Rejected parts of the personality that Retreat into the subconscious. The dividing line seems not to be what the sides do, but which get rejected.
@hanaeve__
4 жыл бұрын
I like to think that it’s not black and white, since all of the sides contribute to Thomas’ wellbeing in their own ways. Janus looks out of Thomas as well as any of the other sides but does it in such a different way. I saw somewhere that Janus sort of represents self-preservation as well as deceit since his main goal is to make sure Thomas himself is healthy and well. If I were to put them on sides of the spectrum though, I’d like to think that Virgil and Janus are in the middle, Remus is on the “darker” side of the spectrum, and of course Logan and Patton would be on the “lighter” side. Janus would be in the middle in my opinion since he makes sure Thomas knows that though he should still make sure others that he cares about are happy, he should take time and preserve himself and be a little selfish at times too. Of course being too selfish is pretty bad, so I’d think he’s in the middle. Virgil would also be in the middle because though small doses of anxiety is good, as seen in the Accepting Anxiety videos, too much of anxiety isn’t good for your wellbeing and can very much hold you back from things you want to be able to do. He’s sort of gray, or neutral, same with Janus. Remus is basically the embodiment of the thoughts you don’t want to think, or the “creative side” of you that’s unfiltered and is brutally honest I like to think. Patton and Logan are pretty obvious, and both have their upsides and downsides as shown in this episode, particularly with Patton. I’m sorry I went on a tangent, I’m really passionate when it comes to this series and how in depth it gets with morals and such, especially since I’m a new viewer of the series and practically binged watched all of the episodes in 2 days lmao.
@saltyfoxs
4 жыл бұрын
11:04 Don't mind me, just saving this for later-
@user-ms5nh1ji4h
4 жыл бұрын
1- hint that using another person's form takes energy that other shape-shifts wouldn't for Janus, especially if he's the only one who COULD take another side's form. 2- JANUS IS SMAAAAARRRRRTTTTT. (Even if he swapped places with Logan somehow. Which i doubt) 3: HOL UP ROMAN REFRAINED FROM CALLIN THE GUYS MUTACHE STUPID. AM I GOIN CRAZY THEORIST OR DOES THAT SOMEWHAT SIGNIFY A BETTER BOND BETWEEN THE CREATWINS, HOWEVER ONESIDED IT MAY BE???????? 4: hint that Logan was Janus; he did his mumble thing, that Logan doesn't actually do at 31:39. It's a small thing, but it's there. As well as a few others you might catch on to after a second or third time watching. 5: J's cane is what pulled Logan away ... That could have been when they swapped, IF they did. 6: wait doesn't that mean Logan would be kinda sick because of the bad mental health? 7.1: J literally made the "Unless...?" Face. 7.2: the 'Hnherg' sound-y thing he made was precious to me. Why? I HAVE N O C L U E.
@Purple-and-Starlight
4 жыл бұрын
To be honest during the last part or smth of the first Selfishness vs Selflessness I agreed with some of the stuff that Deceit was saying, thinking that he only wanted to protect Thomas, just like any other of the sides(... Except Remus) and stopped thinking he was completely evil. But then at the end of that video when Roman had that break trough I was like "So I was wrong in agreeing with him?" and admit I was a bit anxious on the thought that it would make me selfish, or that I misunderstood what Deceit was trying to say, but felt sad for Deceit not having someone reach for him since I saw good intentions. Ultimately, I was happy to see him take a stand and trying in this one to make his point by being mostly honest and actually trying having a heart-to-heart with Patton. I also appreciate how he didn't villanize Patton. He even got out of his way to be trusted by telling his name - Wich is, again, another big form of trust in His part as well. Wich makes it understandable that he snapped at Roman. While Roman probably switched to bully-mode out of self defense so I can't point him at the bad guy, he still made fun of something that was very important to Deceit - revealing a name. Roman, his twin, Patton and Logan didn't have much problems sharing it - But as for Virgil and Janus? They are much more closed off and not really trusting of people probably, so just as we saw for Virgil long ago in accepting anxiety - he hated being made fun of something that was a big deal for him to share. I'm sad for Roman, now, and scared for Virgil's reaction as well. About what you said in Virgil being able to calm Patton - I don't know if that would have been the case. While he is really perceptive and close to Patton and has had a hand in mental health discussions in the past, he is still Anxiety. We saw his reaction back in intrusive thoughts. He and Patton were having the same fear - I think it could have happened again here. Not being a good person is basically my biggest anxiety of all, so I think Virgil would have teamed up with Patton on this one - maybe. I still see your point and I don't disregard it completely because you are also right, I'm just not 100% sure of it happening because I also have my own theory. I hope that didn't come of as me being rude, for I wasn't trying to say you were wrong and I was right and that you had to think what I was thinking, but simply wanted to share my theory and thoughts on the matter! You are of course free to disagree Congrats on calling Deceit's true name and thank you for the video reaction and the work you put into editing it so as to post it! I wish you a great week, stay safe and don't forget to drink water :)
@CedricM.Taylor
4 жыл бұрын
The catholic joke was Hilarious My family is catholic My mom is the baby of ten kids and so roman's statement is accurate.
@BerkelEHaluesen
4 жыл бұрын
Well this was worth staying up past 2 am to see. Awesome video, and yay for Deceit's name! I was just as wild for that!
@ChrisTheDuck20
4 жыл бұрын
Just found this reaction randomly. And if the rest of your vids are like this, then i cant wait to watch more
@haileigh8740
4 жыл бұрын
i have a theory that when roman looked at janus when thomas said "you are my hero" it was like he was asking him a question and deciet nodded, almost if he asked deceit if thomas was lying...
@ravenmickelson1732
4 жыл бұрын
37:35 actually i have a mini theory, so see that came decite is holding? Yeah it's the same one that pulled love away when Patton skipped Logan's lecture, so I believe that after Patton skipped what Logan was going to say Logan was decite from that point on. (Except when Logan came back after decite revealed himself)
@user-gk3bd7jz8t
4 жыл бұрын
YES I love your reactions!!!
@demonicartist1920
4 жыл бұрын
I know that we should be trying to accept Janus at this point but, what if he did something to Virgil to make it easier to real talk with Thomas. That’s most likely not the case because of everything going on with him but still.
@mason_gives_up4499
4 жыл бұрын
I think we can all agree the new side is going to be a dark side we have the main 3 light sides Virgil who is basically neither and then we only have 2 dark sides. I never thought that Janus was a bad guy even from the beginning when he was new he was just trying to get Thomas and the others to stop lying to themselves. He is trying to help Thomas' mental not hurt them but everyone is just mean to him. Sure he could have came across nicer but he shouldn't have to. He is a side just like everyone else and should be treated equal. I think Roman is just trying to find a bad guy to fight so he feels useful but when they figured out Virgil isn't bad and Remus could be controlled he had no one else to pinpoint as the bad guy so he doesn't want to let Janus be not the bad guy.
@rayroo1223
3 жыл бұрын
That part when you said that Roman is trying to find a bad guy makes sense. I’ve never thought of it like that, and now I hurt more😭
@hanaeve__
4 жыл бұрын
I’m happy that I wasn’t the only one who was taken aback when Janus compared Roman to Remus! In the Intrusive Thoughts video Roman says how Remus is like looking in a funhouse mirror, and instead of long legs or a tiny torso, it’s everything you don’t want to be. Janus comparing Roman to someone he doesn’t and never wants to be would be a hell of a shocker and I understand why he reacted the way he reacted. I don’t like any of my babs getting hurt and it makes me so sad when something happens and one of them do get hurt.
@ASeed17
4 жыл бұрын
42:08 Honey, you’ve got a big storm coming
@tessbrenner57
4 жыл бұрын
Dangit, I love my dark snek boi.
@baileymcfadden1409
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with almost everything you said (except the stuff about how you couldn’t believe you were agreeing with Janus, he’s my favorite, and I’ve been waiting for this) Mental Health is so so important and yeah..all the stuff you said. Also, I cannot wait for the conflict that’s gonna follow this episode because both Roman AND Virgil and both going to be super upset about Janus getting a seat at the table, and I can’t see Logan being too pleased because of the whole hooking-him-off-screen-and-impersonating-him thing, but he’s going to be Logan and try to be objective. I wonder what Janus’s nod to Roman at the end there was? Also, this means that the only ‘dark side’ (well, that’s been revealed) that all the ‘light sides’ still hate is Remus, so maybe we’ll get some character development for him too? Overall, this episode was amazing and your reaction was great. I apologize for the essay lol
@evsian
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Virgil is the one who's going to comfort and help Roman to go back to his usual self. They're both going through it rn
@novanadir03
4 жыл бұрын
Omg as I was watching this I did (and said) a lot of the same things Xeph did- Edit: Fanders: We want angst!! Angst: **happens** Fanders: nonononononononononono Edit 2: sorry for all the edits This episode made Janus my favourite side
@tigerlily4703
4 жыл бұрын
That moment when you realize that Roman saying “He’s just building up a false confidence in you so you can plummet to even greater depths” was probably about him and Janus’s relationship in pretty much all the past episodes (My Roceit heart is also crying, a lot of this video felt like a breakup video for some weird reason and now I’m just browsing the tag on ao3 to cope)
@The_Nameless_Gamer
4 жыл бұрын
Ok, I have seen 6 different reactions of this episode & NOBODY realised that when Roman swung his sword to slice Logan’s Lowdown Text Box, HE MADE A LEGEND OF ZELDA SOUND
@XephinaTheEleven
4 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed no one else got that, but the reason I didn't is because I don't play video games, so 95% of the references went over my hear this video
@The_Nameless_Gamer
4 жыл бұрын
Xephina The Eleven, ok, also what do thinks gonna happen with Roman because I was screaming my brain out about that, maybe because Virgil has issues with Deceit as well he’ll talk to him. #Prinxiety
@theartsyteacup582
4 жыл бұрын
He wasn't Logan the whole time. When Logan was taken away just how Thomes is taken behind Deceit by him with that stick thing he has (I'm so sorry I don't know how to describe it) that's when they change places!! I found out about this while watching your reaction video so that's awesome. ^w^
@gilagal777
4 жыл бұрын
Yay! Was waiting for your reaction, love it!
@betsyb
4 жыл бұрын
16:16 you really got the moral of the video just 16 minutes in lmao
@mei-xue
4 жыл бұрын
Who here noticed in the beginning that the clickbait screen had the "Light" sides pictures on top and the "Dark" sides pictures below and that there was a blank spot!? New side!!!!!
@kylegates5547
4 жыл бұрын
The Logan lowdown’s fun
@TheAngelofFate17
4 жыл бұрын
If I’m being honest, I’m siding with Roman. If someone that you know has been known to manipulate you the entire time you’ve known them, suddenly starts tring to be honest with you, you are not going to immediately trust them without a doubt. Especially if you’re protective of yourself and towards other the people you care about. Now was Roman laughing at Janus’ name reveal wrong, seeing as it’s likely the first time that Deceit’s actually trying to be honest for once? Yes, of course it was. But I feel it was in character for Roman to do so. Again, He should not have said it. But he also shouldn’t have said all of the things about Virgil before Accepting Anxiety. But he learned from his mistakes, as everyone does. It’s also not like Janus has had a perfect track record either. He has “joked” and said things that didn’t sit well also. And calling Roman the evil twin wasn’t at all something Roman deserves or needed to hear. Because now he believes that he actually *is* the evil twin. Now he believes that everything that Patton and Thomas have ever told him, _that he’s a hero, that he’s good, and that he is loved_ to be a complete lie. And now he’s genuinely freaking out and scared. And no one, not even someone as impulsive and overwhelming as Roman deserves to have such a hateful comment be directed towards them and sending them into a downward spiral. I’d like to believe that, maybe Roman went to Remus after this. Cause I do like to believe that even if they are on opposite sides. That he and Remus, being twins do still care about the others. And then Virgil (since I don’t actually ship any of the sides myself) would go see how his fanciful bro is doing too, since he knows all too well how Janus can be. Roman is trying his best. He’s trying to protect his famILY from the Side he believes are the bad ones because that’s been his view point, his mind set ever since Thomas was a kid, he’s trying to protect them the only way he thinks he can, that’s all.
@Emma-Queenofhell
4 жыл бұрын
Roman doesn't have a perfect track record nor does Janus. No side does I think all sides have the potential for good or evil look at how too much passion can do if you have to much passion you start to lose sight of things that's why Roman's wrong he takes one step forward two steps back word that's why after this I think Roman is going to develop up look at the arcs (Logan's arc ended with him seeing the other as useful. Virgil's are ended with him being accepted in the group. Patton's ended here with him accepting Thomas isn't perfect.) So I think Roman's will take place in the next few episodes and have him realise that he can't be so dogmatic the world isn't just a fairy tale like a righteous prince with friends vs an evil duke or talking lying snake. Or dark stormy overlord. It will either end with him and Remus becoming one side. I shall call this theoretical side the king so the king is dressed in a gray representing that the king knows that creativity is both a vice and a virtue can be used both positively and negatively however you should not be so dogmatic with either of those options those the king will be wiser then Remus and Roman being the truth form of creativity and the perfect Fusion of the two. The other more likely result is Roman realizes you can't just put a person in the Box I've noticed when watching Sanders sides is that Roman tends to be the one that simplifies the others so as a result of this growth he'll stop doing that.
@TheAngelofFate17
4 жыл бұрын
Koken Redlord i agree that Roman needs to learn a lesson, but people are literally make him out to be this horrible, awful person simply because he made fun of their snake bois name. And that’s not fair to Roman. Again he shouldn’t have made fun of Janus’ name, but Janus also should have lied and manipulated Roman all those times before, to get him to be so distrusting and hurt towards Deceit. When someone is lied to and manipulated multiple times, it can have a very negative consequence. It hurts to be lied to and even more so to be manipulated. Janus is this pure innocent boy and neither is Roman. They both messed up. They both need to apologize to the other.
@ionamorwenna5564
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for having taken the time of typing all that out. I was one of the many people who lashed out at Roman after laughing at Janus' name, because to me that in particular was a step too far. Roman is the Side I relate to the least out of all of the ones we know so I am more biased towards the others most of the time, and that often makes me forget that Roman can get hurt just as much as the others. I have problems understanding Princey a lot, so comments like yours give me good insight and help me working on my bias as well. It makes me see parts of Roman that click with me which I overlook a lot. Before I lose my train of thought and derail my comment, let me reiterate (spelling?) my thanks and I hope you have a good day.
@summanus4437
4 жыл бұрын
"And calling Roman the evil twin wasn’t at all something Roman deserves or needed to hear." I strongly disagree with that. Roman doesn't deserve any special protections no one else gets, *especially* when he is absolutely in the wrong. If anything it's good Janus called him out on it, because Roman himself said he doesn't want to be like Remus. So when he acts like it he needs to be put back in line. His intentions matter much less than the impact of his actions. I would argue that he obviously hasn't learnt from his mistakes, otherwise he wouldn't have reacted in the way he did. He's acting towards Janus in exactly the same way as he did to Virgil, despite an honest effort on the former's part to at least offer an olive branch for the sake of Thomas. You can see that in Janus' face when Roman asks the others how they can trust him. He clearly doesn't want to reveal his name, for good reason it turns out, but he does so because otherwise his ability to help Thomas and be accepted by him could be jeopardised. That is literally Janus compromising and trying to do as Roman or Patton would in an effort to find common ground. The only reason he has such a black and white mindset is because Thomas split him and Remus into "good" and "bad" due to his upbringing. For that very reason Roman *needs* to be told when he is doing something wrong for the sake of his self-development and growth. And sometimes that's not a pretty process. Otherwise he'll continue acting in a cruel manner, and believe it's acceptable because the ones he's being cruel to are "evil." Regardless of whether they actually are or not.
@Emma-Queenofhell
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheAngelofFate17 I agree remember I made the congestion that Janus doesn't have a perfect track record I simply think this Is the best way for him to learn that lesson my theory is he will throw the price motif away and in its stead become a king
@ChrissaTodd
4 жыл бұрын
i don't think he is gonna duck out according to the sanders side wiki they took this as roman accepting janus begrudgingly
@jesseprater9071
4 жыл бұрын
I was excited to see your reaction on this, it was a very exciting episode for sure
@dragonflyace
4 жыл бұрын
I know a lot of people don't like how Janus shot back an insult at Roman (especially about Remus), but there's a fraction of a second while he's saying it where his face is full of hurt. Roman didn't even flinch while he was laying down insults.
@makennamcminn547
4 жыл бұрын
no views 2 likes and 4 comments yep....youtubes drunk again
@encilada4493
4 жыл бұрын
Roman's little 'Wow' after Janus nodded reminded me of something. Like, this maybe isn't epic or something, but I make that exact word with the excact same tone. When? When I am so frustrated and in the verge of tears. I usually say it to stop myself from crying. The obnoxious, sarcasting looking wow.
@kylegates5547
4 жыл бұрын
Also Janus as bowser yes
@tarekatorr
4 жыл бұрын
I'm seeing this pretty late, but great reaction and commentary! I have a theory that Deceit is the flipside to Patton, meaning that he is the Ego to Patton's Morality, similarly to how Roman and Remus are both halves of Imagination Also, I think it's possible that Virgil is the flipside to Logan, considering that calm, emotionless rationale is kinda the opposite to the knee-jerk reactions of Anxiety, which can come to the point of being unreasonable (fight or flight) Edit: also, Patton being the inner child and struggling with time and more mature dilemmas leads me to believe that another aspect of "Deceit" is maturity
@kaylabarnes
4 жыл бұрын
I do agree with your thoughts on Virge not being in the video. I hope they cover his side of things though. I wonder if we'll get a Remus acceptance arc too. Also, I can not wait to see who the 6th side is. And, are they gonna be a d!ck too?
@lovelaced
4 жыл бұрын
I had a bit of a heart attack when I saw this and I just HNNGGHHH
@mcgobblesakaMG
4 жыл бұрын
OMG Janus I love it sure douse suit him
@darkerskye4740
4 жыл бұрын
So all the dark sides have a Roman name Virgil the Roman poet Remus the other son of the wolf And now Janus the Roman god
@exoticcats6119
4 жыл бұрын
You actually predicted his name what!?!
@giuliacf4180
4 жыл бұрын
Janus was right since the first selfishness vs selflessness video, Thomas should've gone to the callback, Thomas could've just explain to his friends he had a LIFE CHANGING OPPORTUNITY he had to atted to instead of their wedding, and then invite them to come over, give them gifts and cake, ya know? Make up for it LATER, if they didn't understand that then they weren't even good friends to begin with, it's okay to prioritize your own wants instead of others, Janus just wanted to be listened to and teach them a lesson, Janus isn't just about lying, he also represents Thomas' self preservation
@Your_local_neighborhood_clown
4 жыл бұрын
What if both patton and roman try to duck out or patton will be very very sad and roman is probably gonna stay in his mind palace ?? Or one of them will try to duck out or actualy duck out
@katwea1997
4 жыл бұрын
I was waiting on this omg
@SketchPaige
4 жыл бұрын
I was kinda dissatisfied with this episode. Don’t get me wrong, it’s amazing, but one, I really missed Virgil. All the characters were so stressed that I think he really could have had a valuable place in the conversation. Maybe I'm biased since he’s my favorite and the most relatable side (since I suffer with an anxiety disorder) But I just really wish he were here. There’s another reason I was dissatisfied though... I recently got into a fight with a friend of mine. She’s not my friend anymore, she has made it clear she hates me now, but she was the one who introduced me to sanders sides. After our fight, this series just has so many connections to her for me, and I don’t know if I’ll ever enjoy it the same way again. Now it just makes me want to cry. The line “is there a limit to how many times you can tell someone you’re sorry before you realize they’re just bad for you?” Really got me. I tried apologizing to this friend over and over for our fight, I tried to make an effort to change. It’s really hard to face the fact that its time to move on, and I hope someday, I can bring myself to do so.
@SketchPaige
4 жыл бұрын
Ok so she hearted my comment so I’d rather not edit it so im just continuing it in the reply because I have something else I need to add. for anyone reading, please don’t hate on this person or think they’re a bad person by any means. They made a bad choice and had unjustified anger towards me, but I know as well as anyone else that this is a stressful time and she’s probably going through a lot. By no means do I think her anger is justified or was right, but I don’t think her intent was to be rude, so you shouldn’t think that either. She is a good person, and even good people do bad things sometimes, but we learn and grow. Don’t go hating on someone you don’t know, especially for vague reasons you hardly have any description of.
@RashaundaSpears
4 жыл бұрын
A few things here: *What's going on with Patton is concerning. *I really liked the video game concept when this came out. Speaking of video games, the part about saving a kingdom for just a reward reminds me of Mario. *I missed Virgil, but I get a sense that he was there. *I agreed with Deceit, or Janus as soon he showed up. Helping others is all well and good, but if you give and give and give without taking care of yourself first, you will be drained. Sometimes it pays to a little selfish, like 25-30%....maybe. *Also....HOW DID HE GET THE ORIGINAL AARON BURR TO BE IN HIS VIDEO?!?!?!?!
@itssky3693
4 жыл бұрын
1:01:57 i see a video from moonkitty xdd
@spoopyvirgil4944
4 жыл бұрын
I stated in the comments of a video about bean Janus about what I think the blank spot is in the thumbnail. Both of them are personal theories on it. One theory I have is Patton transforms with intense emotions and he doesn't know because it causes gaps in his memory. The other theory is that Roman and Remus end up pretty much fusing together did to rage against the others for trusting Janus
@LyxiLynnn
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know weather to be happy or sad 😫
@ultima1594
4 жыл бұрын
When Roman looked at Janus and he nodded. He was confirming that Thomas lied about Roman being his hero.
@summanus4437
4 жыл бұрын
I think it was actually the opposite. He was confirming that that was true. Roman just didn't believe him. You can see the look of "No wait" in Janus' face when Roman takes his gesture the wrong way.
@phoenixablaze649
4 жыл бұрын
This episode left me very not okay for many reasons :')
@psychosweetheart5977
4 жыл бұрын
When Patton hot the "skip all" button on Logan's pop-up (which was yellow and black) the hook that took Logan away looks like Deceit's cane... It was Logan up to that point
@ravenmickelson1732
4 жыл бұрын
Virgil is a very formal dark side 😂
@nimhisser55
4 жыл бұрын
did you notice that deceit is holding the crook that drags Logan out. and the buttons are color coordinated the dark blue informed button (Logan's color), the red ignorant button (roman's) and then the skip all button a bold black and yellow (deceit)
@ComfySocksBoi
4 жыл бұрын
Hey! I'm a new subscriber! I just wanted to say that I guessed his name to be a feminine name as well based on the first video he was introduced in. "Deceit??" Thomas asked. Janus responded with "Who's SHE never heard of HER" As if he was making fun of his own name
@MeAsEmma
4 жыл бұрын
i missed Virgil in this episode🥺
@kaylabarnes
4 жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd say Deceit was right either Xephina. Or that he was getting close to my love for our soft purple boi.
@Baseiscc
4 жыл бұрын
“WHY AM I AGREEING WITH DECEIT SO MUCH THIS EPISODE” Me a long time Deceit Stan: HahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@pip_a_doodle2175
4 жыл бұрын
s a m e
@randopotato9043
4 жыл бұрын
I just found ur channel thru a comment and bro I'm so glad I'm not the only one who got the name!!! (And had that reaction lmao I fell out my chair) definitely subscribing! Also love the ace flag 💜
@greysonalex
4 жыл бұрын
What time was it when you posted? It was two in the morning here. I hope you got a good amount of sleep! Also though, I could barely hear you through your video
@XephinaTheEleven
4 жыл бұрын
It was about 2:30 am
@greysonalex
4 жыл бұрын
@@XephinaTheEleven SLEEEEEPPP yes, I'm a hypocrite, but I was also up helping my friend
@XephinaTheEleven
4 жыл бұрын
@@greysonalex I'm an insomniac, I *can't* sleep
@greysonalex
4 жыл бұрын
@@XephinaTheEleven I guess that's fair... You don't really have a choice
@Hessonite_Dragon_Helen
4 жыл бұрын
My god this one is a doozy. Also D J. I guess deceit makes beats. (He like that?)
@Tangerines7368
4 жыл бұрын
Was I the only one that laughed so hard when Deceit made that noise at 57:25? Just me? Ok ;w;
@onetrackmind3558
4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was Janice not Janus ?
@Damien1121
4 жыл бұрын
Most people are probably not gonna see this, but just to let you know in the scene where Patton compares beating up bad guys to feeding homeless people in a homeless shelter there’s a bunch of numbers in orange that once flipped over spell hello
@pip_a_doodle2175
4 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too!!
@uni_sparkless7858
4 жыл бұрын
37:16 I think that Deceit was only Logan when Logan said "ENOUGH!" because there is no way that Deceit is that good at knowing things
@alexinwonderland5782
4 жыл бұрын
you can actually see deceit take logan away when patton clicked on “skip all”
@alexinwonderland5782
4 жыл бұрын
i feel like i should’ve noticed that deceit was pretending to be logan in the second half because logan would never get that angry when discussing information like that. it was like a total change in character
@jennyfleming14
4 жыл бұрын
That slot could just be Thomas
@dr.temperancebrennan
4 жыл бұрын
The slot is in the same shape as Roman. Where the picture of Roman is, it's like Thomas used his outline to put in that box. That could mean something, or I'm overthinking it.
@thevoidstaresback2629
4 жыл бұрын
I still think the hidden side is the "original creativity"
@Wren_isgone
4 жыл бұрын
Holy Shit! I'm now subscribing! Edit: Two questions. 1. Can I hug you? 2. Where did you get that virgil hoodie?
@XephinaTheEleven
4 жыл бұрын
Yes and my friend made it for me
@Wren_isgone
4 жыл бұрын
@@XephinaTheEleven Thank you. *hugs* Now I must find a virgil hoodie.
@Pastel-KittyYT
4 жыл бұрын
27:36 DECIET PULLED LOGAN BACK WITH A HOOK AND DISGUISED HIMSELF!
@jessicachapman6726
4 жыл бұрын
When Roman left my heart broke. Roman sometimes call Roman my son and I have a thought that he will duck out....
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