i appreciate the devs not furthering fomo by implementing forced faction requirements for bonuses/rewards, like many other gacha/mobile/character collector games. Faction is only relevant, objectively, for in-game combat, and on only a single factor in a unit’s kit.
@silverflamingegg
9 сағат бұрын
Ceasar's passive working in basically every team is awesome
@zachary_gongaga
10 сағат бұрын
watch lighter have better personal damage than soldier 11
@AverageLuckGamer
10 сағат бұрын
Holy shizzle!
@mouthwashjones6400
9 сағат бұрын
That’d be kinda on brand xD that’ll get me to pull for him lol
@SwitchbackCh
9 сағат бұрын
S11 seems suited for consistent DPS but given Lighter's punchy weapon, he might be a more bursty type?
@remchwan
8 сағат бұрын
@@SwitchbackCh also, I'm considering him having an AOE skill. Buff, debuff, cc and stun from Caesar and off field damage (fire/burn) from Burnice or Damage buff from Lucy or def shred from Nicole makes him a monster DPS imo.
@Rookmai
8 сағат бұрын
To be fair, that's not very hard to accomplish.
@sk3tch776
10 сағат бұрын
i appreciate that your videos are not labelled.. "must pull" as soon as the characters come out..
@AverageLuckGamer
10 сағат бұрын
If I ever say “must pull,” it will actually mean “must pull.” So I’ll probably never say it…
@sk3tch776
9 сағат бұрын
@@AverageLuckGamer good to hear.. i see "must pull" being thrown around even before we know much about the characters.. its like every new s-rank character that comes out.. is "must pull"...seems like a marketing thing or something...
@robertlaidlaw4592
9 сағат бұрын
Honestly, other than getting 1 of the 3 released DPS's none of the characters even feel like that huge account buffs. ZZZ hasn't done the best job of making characters seem worth it IMO.
@cristianalfonso7594
8 сағат бұрын
@robertlaidlaw4592 lol zhu yuan made my account beat shyu for the first time, and Jane doe made me able to 3 star everything. You have to look at your account and pull for what you need and what appeals to you. They are filling gaps now, you can bet that Ellen will be the first powercrept unit since Miyabi is coming
@sk3tch776
8 сағат бұрын
@@robertlaidlaw4592 are all the anomaly characters considered dps now? burnice and yanagi?
@abstractgirl1971
10 сағат бұрын
The male S rank drought was crazy, my body- I mean account is ready for Lighter.
@AverageLuckGamer
9 сағат бұрын
Let's go!
@AnotherAyushRaj
6 сағат бұрын
too bad hes a stunner. I wanted him to be attack so bad
@jayden9287
4 сағат бұрын
@@AnotherAyushRaj Stunners have more upfield time then DPS so we can spend more time looking at his abs
@kiraflo98
4 сағат бұрын
@@AnotherAyushRaj no male attacker S ranks allowed
@rhythmblack3830
Сағат бұрын
@AnotherAyushRaj at least he wont be powercrept right away
@Exaar
9 сағат бұрын
I think the logic Hoyo is following is that they are developing the characters to work well thematically and mechanically within their own faction, and then filling out the factions rather than filling out the types. For example, we first got Ellen, who completed VH. Then we got Zhu Yuan, followed by Seth, Qinyi, and Jane, which completes NEPS. Now we're getting Cesar, Burnice, and Lighter all in a row, which together with Piper and Lucy completes Sons of Calydon. With Yanagi up next, I imagine 1.4 will be Miyabi and the bow dude from Section 6 to complete that faction. I dont necessarily AGREE with this choice, as I think filling out the types/elements would be better for gameplay for the reasons you mentioned. But I think this is the method they are using and would expect to see it continue this way.
@V-vision
9 сағат бұрын
The thing is, these aren't mutually exclusive. Especially this early on, there's no reason it couldn't have been planned for each new release to fulfill missing faction members, types, and elements at the same time. Since all content is playable anyway, I'm not upset about it, but it's kind of odd that it wasn't planned in a way that these things aren't all satisfied at once
@AverageLuckGamer
8 сағат бұрын
Yeah, it is what they’re going for but from a first glance perspective, before we have character info (like now) it does make these characters seem kinda underwhelming.
@khoinguyenpham9250
8 сағат бұрын
Me waiting for more Obol squad 😴
@gunzkiller101
7 сағат бұрын
This is pretty much the theory, I and others believe as well.
@stormix5755
6 сағат бұрын
@@AverageLuckGamerI believe they should’ve given us a few more four stars at the beginning of the game to fill out more niche roles like Ether defence. But having all the sons of Calydon be fire or physical makes sense in the story
@bananaman7637
10 сағат бұрын
Hoyo aren't shooting themselves in the foot. If this game is gonna last a long while we shouldn't be tearing through every option available. What concerns me is the lack of A ranks.
@AverageLuckGamer
9 сағат бұрын
Fair point.
@zeroisnine
7 сағат бұрын
Yes, but having only 2 rate up A ranks does mean you likely can get/mindscape them easier
@DrAnimePhD
7 сағат бұрын
Apparently Lighter was originally gonna be A Rank but they decided to make him S Rank instead, and the next new agents for the forseeable future are all S Ranks If they’re gonna add so many S Ranks, then either the rates should be improved or pity reworked
@dualathloner
3 сағат бұрын
@@DrAnimePhD They will never "improve pity", they want to turn people into gambling addicts
@forcodingg1287
Сағат бұрын
I mean, Maybe the Reason on the Lack of A Rank Because we Just need 6 Character instead of 8 like other hoyo games. That also mean, This game is Cheaper compared to others.
@SwitchbackCh
9 сағат бұрын
It's interesting to observe ZZZ's class-element distribution compared to previous Hoyo titles: 5 elements x 5 classes = 25 combinations. Meanwhile Genshin has 7 elements x 5 weapons = 35 combinations & Star Rail's 7 elements x 7 Paths = 49 combinations. This makes the gaps in ZZZ's roster more noticeable, but they sort of mitigated this by not making element weaknesses as integral as in previous titles.
@alexferrier5732
7 сағат бұрын
They also mitigated it by having teams of 3 instead of 4. So they really don't have to create as many combinations for now
@zeroisnine
7 сағат бұрын
??? It's more integral than both Genshin and Star Rail
@papacharlie-niner148
6 сағат бұрын
I don't play the other games, but element weakness is pretty darn important in ZZZ.
@externalhardrive
9 сағат бұрын
imo people are overreacting with lighter being a stunner. It’s not even a “replace existing cast” issue because if he were fire attacker he’d also be replacing s11. Are people just more okay with powercreeping DPS than with supports for some reason? Also people are treating stunners like healers in HSR, where you just need 2 of them since elements don’t matter. In ZZZ matching elements increases daze buildup substantially so you actually want a stunner of each element.
@papacharlie-niner148
6 сағат бұрын
Then that argues for an ether stunner next, not another fire stunner.
@GigondSuperGnom
5 сағат бұрын
how does matching elements increase daze buildup?
@externalhardrive
2 сағат бұрын
@@papacharlie-niner148 I agree. If your gripe with him is that he should be ether/physical stun, then I agree. However, my main criticism is that people's main gripe with him is not that he should be a ether stunner, but rather that he should be a fire attacker, when fire attacker is already a filled role as well. But people seem to have no problem with overlapping a filled role if it's attacker, but does have a problem if it's stun. This is the inconsistency that I am pointing out.
@externalhardrive
2 сағат бұрын
@@GigondSuperGnom Just like how attribute weakness/resistance affects damage dealt, it also affects daze dealt and anomaly applied. It's just a multiplier in the daze/anomaly formula. If you want an in-depth explanation, jstern25 did a video on it. You can also search up the damage/daze/anomaly formula and look up enemy stats yourself to verify.
@schrodingersbeer4751
6 сағат бұрын
So this actually establishes an interesting pattern, with odd numbered patches having 2 S Ranks that upgrade existing combinations, and even numbered patches having unique combinations. 1.0 had Ellen and Zhu Yuan who were both unique combinations. 1.1 had Qingyi and Jane who had the same combinations as Anby and Piper respectively. 1.2 will have Caesar and Burnice who are both unique combos. And now 1.3 will have Lighter and Yanagi who share Type-Class combinations with Koleda and Grace respectively. This plus Yanagi's rumored anomaly support aspect leads me to lend a little more credence to the Miyabi as an Ice Anomaly character
@so-toa9758
9 сағат бұрын
Anyone who's played Grace knows she's absolutely abysmal at applying anomaly if she isn't given ample on-field time. An off-field anomaly agent, despite having the same element, is going to be a completely different playstyle to her. Anyone who's played Koleda knows she's mostly a swap-stunner as in you parry, do some dodges, and then EX into a stun unlike Anby, Qingyi, or (to a lesser degree) Lycaon who all want more time on-field. Another fire stunner might actually pair nicely together with her. Dev just gives an update that ult meter is going to be separate starting from 1.4 and nothing beats stunning and chain attacks to fill that. We don't have any team that spams chain attacks yet. Element coverage is way too over-rated when more and more agents work by typing basis (ZY who needs supports, for example) and enemies aren't that diverse yet. You can't go around with conscience and say anyone from the roster wants an Ether anomaly or an Ice anomaly, can you?
@ExcessumGaming
9 сағат бұрын
Yeah she was my first S rank character I was even unlucky to get her to E3.... and i even got her S rank weapon. And she is still total shit damage. Its main reason why i dont like anomaly characters.
@papacharlie-niner148
6 сағат бұрын
Yeah, I agree about being okay with Grace getting replaced, even though I've invested heavily in her. But I don't think ALG is right that Yanagi will be off-field electric. I think it's Harumasa that will be the off-field support agent, kind of like Rina. I disagree that element coverage is over-rated, not with how weakness/resistance gatekeeps end-game S-rank clears.
@GameGingo
9 сағат бұрын
Really stumped about Lighter being a stunner instead of an attacker. I'm also confused why Yanagi was shown off first in the drip marketing. Wouldn't they want to be done with the Calydon members before they move on to Section 6? Weird decision if they stick to that schedule, and kinda painful for me, because I planned on pulling Burnice AND Yanagi. If Yanagi now drops right after Burnice, I'm not sure I can get her.
@BladetastersDelight
8 сағат бұрын
There were rumours that Lighter was changed from an A rank to an S rank based on early leaks. If this is true, my theory is that they gave him stun properties to elevate him to S rank because they probably already have plans for who they want as their premium dps and didn’t want to add another one. And was probably easier adding stun to his kit instead
@gunzkiller101
7 сағат бұрын
Think it because they are trying to get Miyabi since people are really hoping to get her. Plus I think they just want to get as much fractions out there as it more interesting vs same theme character from one fraction.
@BenAhya
2 сағат бұрын
I think he's gonna be sub dps stunner since from leaks his m2 will increase his attack by 4% and can be stacked to 80, his m6 will increase his attack by 130%
@SlickEvan
9 сағат бұрын
Every time I select Zhu Yuan, in the back of my mind, I think "I'm surprised there isn't an Ether stunner...or ether anything," but I guess I'll give them their time. Hopefully they're cooking. So far they've been killer with the characters, they all look so cool, to the point I'm sad I'm not a whale lol. And the Anomaly buff could be kind of cool.
@papacharlie-niner148
6 сағат бұрын
I guess because Nicole was free and in your roster before IK 10, they figure Ether is covered for now.
@virtualmartini
4 сағат бұрын
Nicole is awesome but yeah.
@mf2854
9 сағат бұрын
Disagree on quickly filling in gaps in agent types and roles. You don't want fomo to feel oppressive. Type matchups matter and if they fill in the gaps quickly one after another, you can easily start to feel like you need to pull to every new character. If I have a Grace and that makes me feel I have the role covered, it's good that I can comfortably skip Yanagi. It also means SD will continue to have a tight knit spread of weaknesses/resistances that a higher % of the player base can cover. During Yanagi's banner, those who invested in Grace can expect the SD buffs to also work in their favour.
@BladetastersDelight
8 сағат бұрын
Yeah big agree. The main reason I was able resist Jane Doe was because I didn’t want my Piper to be made redundant. And this worked out best for me since it means I can grab both the Calydon girls now
@papacharlie-niner148
6 сағат бұрын
That's a good point that I hadn't appreciated. I'm low spend, so I need some breaks. Limited agents that are only incremental over existing agents are needed skips, like Qingyi vs. Anby. However, I still worry about being gatekept from end-game rewards by attribute weakness/resistance combos. Like a fire resist/ether or ice weak set of bosses would suck for my account for 1.2 thru 1.3, because I don't have ZY or Ellen.
@Salmon_Toastie
3 сағат бұрын
@@BladetastersDelightAnd the opposite for me, I didn’t invest in piper at all and wanted Seth M6 so getting Jane was going to happen regardless.
@Nephanor
10 сағат бұрын
Yeah, we definitely need more Ether agents. Having just two is kinda nuts, and I really like your idea for Lighter, that is awesome, and I REALLY like the idea of Yanagi as an off field damage. I am DEFINITELY going for Burnice though, I need fire in my roster more, don't have Soldier 11 or Koleda yet.
@AverageLuckGamer
9 сағат бұрын
Moar ether!
@nyaaalex
6 сағат бұрын
My guess is that down the line they’ll make the Elysia-looking character into a really hyped Ether agent of some sort.
@Nephanor
6 сағат бұрын
@@nyaaalex I'm actually hoping that Miyabi is ether, and all the guesses as to her being ice are wrong
@nyaaalex
5 сағат бұрын
@@Nephanor I wouldn’t mind that, honestly. Although I did skip Ellen for Zhu Yuan and could use an Ice agent 😅
@DarkSoraKing
10 сағат бұрын
I don't think we're going to see ether types till we get past the established characters, maybe Soldier 11's squad and further like the idol squad they'll start filtering them in.
@AverageLuckGamer
10 сағат бұрын
You're probably right but I can dream.
@Just_an_urn
9 сағат бұрын
My hot take: Yanagi should have been an ice anomaly instead or electric to work with Soukaku (I don't see any coming soon either... )
@silverflamingegg
9 сағат бұрын
Some people have theorized that miyabi will be ice anomaly
@D3zhumer
8 сағат бұрын
Ice anomaly doesnt make sense game wise. Triggering ice has 2 parts and it increases crit dmg/ crit rate, something that anomalies simply do not use. They really have to bend the current mechanics to make ice anomaly work
@silverflamingegg
8 сағат бұрын
@@D3zhumer that's something that they can easily make a character mechanic. Jane already has a mindscape that makes it so her anomaly can crit.
@D3zhumer
8 сағат бұрын
@@silverflamingegg yea, and it has fixed crit dmg and anomaly crit rate scales with proficiency. An advantage of anomalies is that you need atk and ap to make it work. Imagine having a character that requires atk ap crit dmg crit rate. Basically needs perfect disks to work
@AverageLuckGamer
8 сағат бұрын
Yeah then people would have been scrambling about what Miyabi could be lol.
@xDidddle
10 сағат бұрын
I think lighter is going to be the first stun attacker. Like how Ceaser is basically a defence and a stun unit. I think light is going to be a stunner that can also deal alot of damage on its own. Kinda like what anby was meant to be, with all her self buffs and shit.
@elijahswanson619
7 сағат бұрын
I do think lighter being a buffer like you said is really cool, but I really would like for him to do what the others haven’t. Be a dps.i know that sounds kinda out there, but ZZZ has no problem with having out of the ordinary kit designs that break the norm. Also rumors say his W-engine is very dmg oriented. I really want him so I can play him with my Burnice.
@KumaOso16
8 сағат бұрын
I think Hoyo is going in part for playstyle differences and therefore how the different team members affect a comp. Burnice seems like she's going to be like Lucy where you she does her EX and swaps out. Compare that to Grace, Piper, and Jane who pretty much want a lot of field time to do their work. Secondary core passives are also going to be important to consider. Piper can team up with Caesar and both get a bonus because of factions and/or matching elements. Meanwhile, Jane needs another NEPS character or another anomaly character to get her bonus so her full synergy options are more limited. All in all, I think we have to consider field time and what value a given character brings to a comp and what enemies are weak to. Grace and Piper are on screen DPS that can shred shields faster than Anton and Nekomata respectively. Jane pretty much screams made to have an off-screen anomaly for rapid disorder. Defense characters are decided largely on what their buffs bring, especially Ben who needs to meet a rather easy secondary requirement thanks to Calydon and Belobog. Caesar is great for units that don't wait for stun while Ben provides boosted crit for those that do. Then there's Seth who buffs anomaly units regardless of playstyle.
@Patricko22
10 сағат бұрын
wow I'm SO glad that I didn't build my Koleda yet I can already tell that I will pull Lighter Lighter, Solider 11 and Lucy sounds awesome
@AverageLuckGamer
10 сағат бұрын
Heck yeah!
@FireFarmer123
10 сағат бұрын
Me stacking three off-field anomaly characters so I don't have to play the game
@AverageLuckGamer
10 сағат бұрын
Actually could work lmao.
@thegamewoods8473
9 сағат бұрын
While I understand people being concerned about doubling up on the agent roles with standard banner units, as someone who had to wait over 3 years for a SINGLE copy of Mona in Genshin I'm not adverse to them just making that role easily available. Like, I'm missing S11 and Neko in my account. Say I pick S11 at 300 standard pulls, there's a chance I just, never get a Neko ever. I've been playing since launch in Star Rail and I still don't have Yanqing or Bailu, standard banner units are surprisingly fickle.
@SwitchbackCh
8 сағат бұрын
Very true, honestly even lowering the limit from 300 to 200 isn't too much to ask for given how fast the standard units will lose their shine by then.
@N3V3RLookBack
9 сағат бұрын
If lighter ends up being a good anomaly focused stunner who likes having field time, that could be huge for having 2 anomaly agents that like to be off field. I could see crazy disorder damage during the stun window as both anomaly agents come in with their lingering buff on chaos jazz.
@VetoShizu
9 сағат бұрын
I'm actually interested in both characters tbh lol. This the first time a male character interest me in Zenless. Yanagi I had my eyes on since she appeared in the story. Welp I guess I'm just gonna try to M4 Piper then in the waiting room lol.
@dudemetslagroom8065
10 сағат бұрын
Lighter could work really well for the Piper enthusiasts that didn't pull for Jane (not me though... i couldn't resist the rat)
@AverageLuckGamer
8 сағат бұрын
(me neither)
@dudemetslagroom8065
7 сағат бұрын
@@AverageLuckGamer i even had a piper team (to level 50) to... I could have saved myself some pulls for sure but like... THICC RAT!
@muizxmuiz
10 сағат бұрын
Lighter! coz husbando!
@AverageLuckGamer
10 сағат бұрын
Based take.
@Uhhneri
10 сағат бұрын
Frrr this game has so much female fanservice it's actually annoying
@marcusbullock2753
4 сағат бұрын
You need merch called “Lycoan Subscribe”
@AverageLuckGamer
4 сағат бұрын
YES
@Dave_Chrome
4 сағат бұрын
I imagine the Lycaon subscribe would be kicking the button lmao
@papacharlie-niner148
6 сағат бұрын
FWIW, I'm pretty sure Harumasa is going to be the off-field electric damage agent, based on the little glimpses of Harumasa's and Yanagi's combat we get in the Foliage Hunt commission. One of them, Harumasa or Yanagi, left a minefield of electric mines standing, six of them in a circle around the target. It's possible it was Yanagi who left the mines behind, but you see Yanagi swing her long bladed weapon at an enemy a few times, so she seems more on-field from that. Of course, I could be imagining all of this, since I was pretty busy keeping my team alive during that commission and the Sec 6 helpers only appear for a couple of seconds at a time. Basically a huge tease.
@shen_jiunong
10 сағат бұрын
I wonder about the gaps in character types as well. Seems so weird to not focus on
@AverageLuckGamer
10 сағат бұрын
It's such obvious value as well! As opposed to having to sell people on already existing type combinations. *sigh*
@BladetastersDelight
8 сағат бұрын
@@AverageLuckGamer to be fair, being f2p it’s better getting all these overlapping character types because it makes it much easier to skip the ones who’s role I’ve got covered already. Also makes me believe Miyabi will be pure dps at this point, anomaly a cope
@ultimateidiot2344
9 сағат бұрын
Pulling for Lighter because he's cool as hell and because he's the first S rank male, as someone that likes men skipping him would be a crime. I also don't have Koleda (or any other Stunners, just Anby) and the only standard character I have is Soldier 11, everything else I got was the damn balls, so he would be nice for me :]
@Phantom19-YT
10 сағат бұрын
If Lighter kit is gonna be good then I might pull for him otherwise I will skip him and Yanagi.
@hyrulechicken4752
30 минут бұрын
Not to be another Miyabi guy but it is worth mentioning that with the introduction of a section 6 unit she could be there in the next few patches which adds another layer of discussion on saving and who to pull for. Like if Lighter is insane I'll consider depending on my prospective polys, but its also possible that yanagi will be designed to work well with Miyabi as they are from the same faction so having them both sounds good to me. Maybe I'll have enough poly after this patch to maybe try for more than I think, but it feels like units from the same faction are designed to work well together so Yanagi's kit might lean forward TLDR: I dunno guess I'll wait and see
@Fujinondesu
7 сағат бұрын
as much as having an S rank male character is nice and all, I believe that Lighter should be an A-Rank because as of right now, the only A-Rank stunner in this game is Anby...(you can use ben too I guess) So more F2P options would be nice
@OtakuKeisatsu
10 сағат бұрын
Yanagi is here to save us from the Tyranny of Grace and Anton. Long Live Yanagi-Seth, our saviours. As for lighter, because he's a "boxer", I am sure he's going to have a really mean counter punch. By which I mean, his defensive assist is almost guaranteed be insanely good... If it has a better daze build up than Caesar, that would totally make my day. Can't wait to see the "Caesar best value" mouthpieces try to justify why she's still better somehow.
@alexferrier5732
7 сағат бұрын
She most likely will be better at buffing DMG of the team and providing DMG invul+interrupt invul. While Lighter gonna be better at stunning and doing damage. Seems balanced to me.
@GamingTechUnited
9 сағат бұрын
5:35 yep, HUGE agree here. Super frustrating to see them "replacing" agents when we have so many holes. And it's even more frustrating with the rumors that Miyabi is an ICE ATTACK UNIT. Why are we making limited banner characters compete ALREADY??? We have so many holes still. Definitely something I'll be putting in my survey.
@chillax319
9 сағат бұрын
Miya would be better off as an ice anomaly instead.
@phanron8382
9 сағат бұрын
I have a theory that Lighter wasn't meant to be S- rank but A-rank at first giving people a F2P option for a fire stunner. But then somewhere late in development Mihoyo got cold feet and feared to lose the Husbando enjoyers so they made him S-rank instead.
@AverageLuckGamer
8 сағат бұрын
Yes! In the survey!
@Salmon_Toastie
3 сағат бұрын
@@chillax319Shatter anomaly ice would be awesome for Miyabi.
@marcelodsk9923
10 сағат бұрын
I would be screwed with Lighter anyway, as i run both Koleda and Soldier 11
@AverageLuckGamer
10 сағат бұрын
I mean... he might make them better though...
@marcelodsk9923
9 сағат бұрын
@@AverageLuckGamer I hope he is some kind of hybrid
@joametz
8 сағат бұрын
Am I the only one that enjoys the "find Lycaon" minigame?
@AverageLuckGamer
8 сағат бұрын
I’m glad someone notices lol.
@fizzybombTV
4 сағат бұрын
I just pulled Jane, HOURS before her banner ended. Seeing Yanagi down the line has confirmed my decision that I'll need to skip Caesar and cash in on Burnice. I think I'll really want Yanagi as I don't have Grace yet either and would love another Sector 6 agent to pair with Soukaku.
@Dave_Chrome
4 сағат бұрын
ayyy good stuff I did something similar, pulling 10 on the weapon banner after remembering ALGs vid on Seth's w-engine. I got it in the first 10 and was able to pull out of the banner just like that lol
@pocalipse3408
10 сағат бұрын
SUPPORT THE MALE AGENDA, we all win, you all skip, and we enjoy not to play as a woman 24/7
@russellpierce3987
10 сағат бұрын
honestly i might pull him just because i want more guys in the game. i already have koleda but he's cooler anyway
@alexoceanmeow
9 сағат бұрын
Lighter looks so good 😍 I'm sad I won't have any pulls for Caesar, Bernice, and probably him too. Hoyo have taken all 140 saved pulls I had for Jane. :/ Been wanting Yanagi so hopefully I can save up 90 pulls again for her and then cycle around to the Sons of Calydon to pull when they come back around.
@the_uns33n
10 сағат бұрын
Koleda is my first S agent and since I only started recently and could realy use more S agents (thanks to me getting and S weapon as my second guarantee) I might just use 1.3 as a skip patch after getting both in 1.2.
@bradlydorsey6864
10 сағат бұрын
I'm a guy that also enjoys the game more that looking at butts too, and I just wanna say that the two characters ik MOST excited for and WILL get are Lighter and Harumasa. They look SOO good and they look like so much fun
@AverageLuckGamer
10 сағат бұрын
I think Haramasa's kit has potential to be so cool, from what we've seen in trailers etc.
@k_aesar
10 сағат бұрын
thank you for your videos man you're genuinely the best zzz content creator rn, that said I won't be pulling either because I will be BROKE!!!
@AverageLuckGamer
9 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much! Also totally fair.
@Thrill_Wolf
10 сағат бұрын
i’m kind of a whale cuz i will spend to guarantee characters i want and not pull copies of s rank characters, but i still find your videos valuable to help me decide where i want to spend
@AverageLuckGamer
9 сағат бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for the support (I just say the whale thing because it caught on, you're very much welcome here).
@katsups
8 сағат бұрын
I'm definitely going for Burnice and now Lighter! I hope they work together well especially since they are the same faction
@IO-hh3gw
10 сағат бұрын
I love Lighter but if he isn't going to give me something new that Koleda Ben combo doesn't give I might have to skip him cuz KoledaBen combo is crazy when it comes to stunning enemies and plus Ben provides Crit Rate for the Mono Fire team with Soldier 11
@woootskie
10 сағат бұрын
Its just a skip patch overall, specially if you already have Grace/Koleda. Hoyo actually helping you save for Miyabi
@GamingTechUnited
9 сағат бұрын
Even then, if Miyabi is an Ice Attack Unit like some are theorizing, that even further pushes ALG's complaints. We'd be making limited banner characters compete while having such big holes elsewhere.
@santinogoring8860
8 сағат бұрын
your high fam, Yanagi/Lighter shits all over Grace/Koleda they are straight up upgrades
@furytheredhead
8 сағат бұрын
I'm kinda hyped tbh because both 1.2 and 1.3 lineups now look like complete skips for me so I'mma be loaded up on Poly by the time Miyabi comes \o/
@burningfox4974
8 сағат бұрын
1.2 will def include trials for Burnie, Cesar, and Lighter so you got time to plan ahead. As for pulls per banner, for $20 (monthly sub and battlepass), you’d get roughly 140 Pulls. So if you get lucky and get a S-Rank around 70 pulls in per banner than that’s 2 S Ranks, allowing you to skip a 50-50 if you focus 1 agent.
@yoshineitor
9 сағат бұрын
Looks like a pull for Ceasar and save for Miyabi (if she is Ice DPS or Electro DPS,) for me, I already have a mono-electric and mono-fire team with a decently equipped Grace and Soldier 11 respectively. I don't like the idea of grinding ANOTHER anomaly electric unit and Ben builds decent stun for me with his cheap 1 bar assist counters and powercreeping Anton seems far away unless Miyabi comes as electric, but that would be funny as it would mean only Ben from Belobog didn't get directly powercrept.
@sugar-lx1jz
7 сағат бұрын
The lack of Ether agents is so frustrating at this point. Literally can't clear Shiyu defense cuz all i have is a C0 A rank support
@rizlosamtelaire9271
4 сағат бұрын
Should have pulled for Zhu Yuan dude instead of Sharkgirl or gyat rat girl. I am stomping Shiyu Defense with Zhu Yuan, S ranking everything. I am in a state where I can pull anybody now for fun or complete a another set of team. Or just save pulls for Miyabi honestly hehehe.
@cawashka
9 сағат бұрын
I have a fully built Grace but I’ll still go for Yanagi. I absolutely love her character design. People will say she looks mid because she doesn’t have a gazillion accessories on her but that simplicity is exactly what I love. Skipping 1.2 for her & the rest of S6
@mkarts3881
9 сағат бұрын
Precisely More =/= better design
@nickeIdime
6 сағат бұрын
Man i'm glad i found your channel, you have the best content on ZZZ for info like this, cheers!
@sjin1ne
9 сағат бұрын
You can also consider adding Rina to a team with yanagi because of the extra duration time of shock (extra 3 secs), adding the 10% dmg increase with electric units on shocked enemies, alongside with the % penetration buff applied to the team. As for Yanagi, despite liking her design and animation on Hollow Zero I may pass because I have Grace, and I'm pretty interested on Harumasa , his attack animations looked pretty cool too. I also want to try a disorder team with Grace/Rina/Burnice.
@CombatPandaZenlessZoneZero
5 сағат бұрын
Lighter providing an anomaly buff/debuff is a very interesting idea. I wonder how his contribution to the fire anomaly buildup would affect the burn proc
@awalkingfurret4207
4 сағат бұрын
I have a crazy theory. What if Yanagi is the beginning of the 1.3 patch and they make a brand new disk drive for her? Also, if I remembered correctly, only Harumasa was the only one that left his mine ability off-field active on the first hollow zero mission, so it wouldn't surprised me if it was actually made for him instead
@sadpocky3391
6 сағат бұрын
Nice vid. I do greatly agree about how they're not really filling in the gaps. I feel like they just want to go by factions right now, regardless of the fact that it might cause a bunch of overlap. It's a solid idea, have some patches focus on 1 faction, then have another patch be half of one faction & the other. But I feel like we will be filling in the roster very slowly, and won't see an element in every role even by some time like 2.0 as a result. It feels nicer so that you can technically "pull for what you want", rather than what your account desperately needs since there are multiple substitutes...but I wish there were more characters that were A-ranks to help fill out the blanks. If you missed Ellen or Zhu Yuan's banner, you're kind of forced to use substitutes in other elements. There aren't any other ice or ether attackers/anomalies. Technically, you could build supports/stunners as a DPS, but it still kind of sucks that there aren't any A-ranks for those element/archetype combos. Meanwhile, we have like 3 physical A-ranks that can be used as DPS.....
@austinn261
9 сағат бұрын
Yanagi is a must pull for me because im a simp and im a polearm fan so shes perfect for me, im gonna whale for her then go completely f2p 🎉
@GrayShepard
6 сағат бұрын
I joined ZZZ only a week ago and got unlucky with exclusive S pulls (got Licaon instead). And 1.2 with 1.3 exclusive characters seems very boring to me (I am going for vibes/movesets/design, don't care about buffs min-maxing), so will be going without exclusive chars for quite some time, probably will be spending polychromes on regular pulls to fill in gaps in my roster. Hope 1.4 will have something more interesting.
@jodisauls6787
9 сағат бұрын
Great content man the only reason I've been strong enough to resist pulling on every sexy character is thx to you So yeah yanagi and miyabi here I come🎉🎉🎉 (Honestly more excited for yanagi)
@AverageLuckGamer
8 сағат бұрын
Glad I could help!
@mikeguy6069
10 сағат бұрын
The only reason I'd pull Lighter is because he's a bro and is a green character. However, i'm pulling for Caesar, so his utility is gonna be in the gutter, so I'm thinking that 1.3 might be a skip. I already don't use anomaly, but Yanagi might change my mind as we get closer to her.
@ivanbackfromthecardshop8093
10 сағат бұрын
"Why arent they filling in the gaps?" Because theirs only 25 co.bos to possibly do and if they focused on that they would be done doing by 1.4. They rather save the combos too hype up later characters than to do them all early and have the community start thinking litterally every character from now on will be a repeat
@Brettlaken
8 сағат бұрын
As of right now there are still 15 combos open for S rank and 17 for A rank. And roles like attack, defender and support can work in wildly different ways, anomaly and stunner have pretty much the same task every time. There is absolutely no point in adding another fire stunner. Maybe if he worked entirely different but almost anything he could do will make Koleda pretty much useless.
@ivanbackfromthecardshop8093
8 сағат бұрын
@@Brettlaken i dont think dividing ranks like that is a great way too look at it. Them releasing shitty zhu yuan or elen isnt going to be hype just because theyre a ranks now (nor do they even get a solo banner to begin with.) Thats not too say the game will die the moment they get all the s rank combos but like assuming this game last a few years theyll easilly go way past 25 s ranks. And its obvious people really care about new combos lol. So they want to drag out possible hype like that as long as they can. And theyre are ways to differentiate him possibly. He could be like better at aoe like nicole or boost anomoly specifcally to pair with burnice and yanagi better.
@Brettlaken
7 сағат бұрын
@@ivanbackfromthecardshop8093 When combining S and A ranks we have 10 combos open. My point still stands that Attack, Defender and Support would be much better fit for duplicates since they are dynamic roles (hell we already have 3 physical attackers). Making a duplicate stunner or anomaly will instantly make everyone prioritize the one who can stack anomaly or daze faster, its just sad giving competition to the ONE character that already struggles. Ben is already considered one of the worst agents so if Koleda gets powercrept, she will instantly be the "ugh account reroll" character for new players. Point is they could have made almost any other duplicate combo that wouldn't have this issue :/
@itsLalm
10 сағат бұрын
I was considering lighter if he was fire attack to expand by elemental covrage, but since he's stun ill probably just skip him. Unless he's secretly a dps or something. Gonna actually end up saving until pulchra at this rate
@barcelona2356
7 сағат бұрын
I honestly believe for us that are not whales it’s great they using same tipe of characters since I have koleda and grace I’m skipping lighter and yanagi. I’m going for the diversity in my squads like you said today I’m going for Caesar ( first defense s rank ) . I might even go burnice since I know the next 2 .since I don’t have fire anomaly . Waiting for stun ether . Defense ice etc
@justaduck7186
Сағат бұрын
Yea I kinda have a hunch that lighter will pair really well with burnice specifically, and if its in the same banner order as they announced it, it would give players who pull for burnice time to save up for lighter.
@burningfox4974
8 сағат бұрын
I think with SoC owning 2 Anomalies, and him having the flame arm, he’d be like Lyacon in terms of a element resistance shredder, and where he’s a Disorder Stunner. Atm Disorders don’t really care about Stun agents since disorder applies its own Daze. So if there’s a Anomoly Stun unit who capitalizes the Anomoly units like you said. Maybe just a flat Anomoly Mastery Buff, or resistance decrease where you can trigger a lot of disorder during the small stun window. And yeah…I was hugely disappointed to see 1.3 tease being “Limited Belabog”. Even if they are unique…
@papacharlie-niner148
7 сағат бұрын
I'm 100% with you on the rant. The agent roster is so lopsided and full of holes, the roadmap makes no sense. Ignoring A-ranks, there's no S-rank Electric Attacker, which could have been Yanagi, and there's no Ether Stunner, to your point. If we add in A-ranks it's even more lopsided, with Physical Attackers at 3 to every other attribute's 1, and now 2 Fire stunners or 2 Electric stunners to Ether's 0? I thought both Yanagi and Lighter would be attackers to even things out and give us a rest from Anomaly main DPS agents. FWIW, now that we know Lighter isn't going to be an Attacker, I'm even more convinced to make Burnice a main DPS agent in a disorder team, like Lucy/Burnice/Piper.
@IceColdSight
3 сағат бұрын
The disappointment of Lighter being revealed as a Stun unit could be felt in the air today Im not gonna lie XD But Im honestly glad that he is what he is because its an easy skip for me. Im a firm Koleda enjoyer and I love her being more of a "burst" stunner that quickly hops onto the field and does like 50-60 daze in one hammer swing, very satisfying
@zeiphie
7 сағат бұрын
Crazy theory.... If Miyabi comes out to be an on-field ice anomaly, and Yanagi is an off-field electric anomaly then wouldn't that open up the option for the games potential first tipple anomaly/element team?
@ExcessumGaming
9 сағат бұрын
I hate anomaly characters imo, like the idea of using them off field but if i will need to use other anomally as main damage then hard pass. Anomally damage have to slow ramp up for me and its feels like you do no damage for few seconds then boom then nothing.
@DHYohko
2 сағат бұрын
I think lighter is the new A rank that appears in the second limited banner of the patch alongside Burnice. seth came with Jane on the second banner and releasing new A ranks is always a good thing.
@revo5124
2 сағат бұрын
Lighter is S rank bruh
@steamhare4559
5 сағат бұрын
I have a feeling the idol group are all Ether users and would probably fill in a lot of the gaps, the biggest issue is that we have *zero* idea when they will even be on the horizon let alone what patch they would be. That unfortunately does mean that Section 6 has no Ether, the animal trio that have been hinted at also have no ether, which means we would have to hope Soldier 11's squad (Obol) MIGHT have a character that is ether otherwise if you are a fan of corruption I hope you got Zhu Yuan cuz that is all youre getting for the next half year
@Grancb
10 сағат бұрын
I wanted both of them at first but I already have Grace and koleda.
@AverageLuckGamer
10 сағат бұрын
I think they'll function quite differently though.
@tomcrossover7487
10 сағат бұрын
Well at least 1.3 makes it easy for me to be a skip patch and save for 1.4
@genisystem1485
8 сағат бұрын
It seems like there's a small pattern with character releases, though will see if it continues. In 1.0, limited S ranks were diffefent roles than the standard cast. Then in 1.1, the S ranks shared attribute and class with standard characters. Now in 1.1 we'll be getting new roles again and 1.2 will have shared roles. I imagine that they'll continue to swap back and forth like this for the foreseeable future, though I don't know how 4 stars like Seth will affect things.
@genisystem1485
8 сағат бұрын
Accidentally put 1.1 in there twice and messed up the order, but the point remains the same.
@nothingtodohere123
7 сағат бұрын
My thoughts as a F2P, and strictly outside of waifu/husbando appeal: Unless Yanagi and Lighter have different enough kits or are literally twice as good as the standard banner equivalents, they're a particularly hard sell. Teams with Koleda and Grace clear Shiyu well enough. For Lighter, I already have Koleda, and pulling for Lighter means spending up to 180 limited pulls to clear Shiyu faster, but I can already comfortably S rank. And even if I don't have Grace currently, I can imagine the mental damage I'll receive when I go all in on Yanagi, power through while losing 50/50, only to get spooked by Grace sometime later (May try and pull Yanagi for waifu reasons, though). I could've saved all of those pulls for future agents who can fill bigger holes in my roster. Again, this is assuming their kits are similar enough to the standard agents, and this is outside of waifu/husbando reasons.
@ringobats
10 сағат бұрын
I know I’m going for lighter at least until I reach 50/50. If I got enough polychromes by then, I’ll probably try a full pull. Section 6 doesn’t even remotely interest me. I can use that time to build up my polychromes again for whoever is next.
@Caduceus444
9 сағат бұрын
I was originally planning to pull for Miyabi in the future because I needed a DPS/anomaly and I thought Yanagi will be stun (which I alredy have in the form of lycaon), but she turned out to be anomaly so I'm on kind of a debate... Ice katana or lightning naginata? A wise man once said "The hardest decisions require the strongest wills"
@touma5340
8 сағат бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if Lighter has something like an anomaly mastery buff so that he can benefit well with Burnice
@Lord_Hengar
4 сағат бұрын
I'm really curious about Lighter. On one hand he looks dope and I love his design. On the other, I've be already been running a solid team of Piper, Lucy..... and Koleda. If I pull for Lighter to enhance my existing fire/phys team I might not have the polychrome to pull someone useful for getting either Ether or Ice off the ground.
@TTClutchKing
10 сағат бұрын
Finally a worthy skip banner in my opinion, Can’t wait for harumasa & miyabi in 1.4
@AverageLuckGamer
10 сағат бұрын
Bring on 1.4!
@KingJellalTV
2 сағат бұрын
I'm hoping during Yanagi's release, we find out more about Miyabi and if they work really well with one another.
@kyleswisher9436
7 сағат бұрын
I love your style. Thanks for the consistently awesome content! You're killing it dude!
@Lumiphatom
8 сағат бұрын
The reason they aren't "filling in" the gaps because they dont need to. If you skipped Quingyi because you speculate they are going to have an ether stun unit soon, just mean you shot yourself in the foot. HSR just introduced their first Imaginary erudition unit. Its been two years since that has been game released....pull for what you need now and dont think you can outsmart the devs.
@wafaay7182
7 сағат бұрын
There's a pattern that if you notice might be funny or sad depending on how you look at it. It's that hoyo is replacing belebog members. Grace by Yanagi, Koleda by Lighter and next in 1.4 is gonna be Anton by Harumasa. I fear for our boy Ben next
@papacharlie-niner148
6 сағат бұрын
Ben was already replaced by Seth. And then again by Caesar.
@xbgsheikiii3593
10 сағат бұрын
I was planning on pulling for ceasar… but i might just farm for lighter at this point
@Amos-xn8vv
6 сағат бұрын
Burnice and Yanagi is gonna work well together in disorder team. If Lighter buff is Anomaly then it'd be great for that team. And that where the problem start, they're depend on each other. None of the 5 stars after Caesar is flexible anymore. All the 5 stars before Caesar are always work well by themselves or support well in most teams. For the upcoming one however, you either have to roll them all or not at all.
@richardjohnson8991
3 сағат бұрын
Looking at section 6 what would make sense for the faction would be Yanagi electric anomaly with Haramusa (whatever dudes name is) as her buffer. Then Miyabi later as ice anomaly with soukaku being her buffer
@Portugal0987
9 сағат бұрын
I feel like they will be A-ranks and not S-ranks, but I do Believe that there will be 2 S-rank Attack Agents of Each Type, for example with Ellen and Miyabi, if you dont have Ellen, you can make an ice Team with Miyabi, and vice versa, because if we have 2 S-rank agents of the same everything, power-creep will honestly rise, and i think there should be 2 types of the same Element team, an A-rank team and an S-rank team, so that newer players can also start learning on how to use teams of a certain element more effectively
@ZtotheMills
8 сағат бұрын
I know based on design, that right away both of these characters are a hard skip. Which is GREAT cuz that just means more time to save up. And yeah, I would love to see more Ether characters and other combos. But the game is still extremely early, so those things are probably being held back VERY intentionally, so the characters who fill those gaps are in high demand. Its gonna be hard to top Jane's marketing, so they gotta give future characters SOMETHING to hype up.
@marcusaurelius4777
5 сағат бұрын
So, I think the main thing to consider here is, Lighter is an S rank Fire Stun unit, like Koleda...thing is, because of this, we know we can GUARANTEE such a unit. I have Koleda, so I will probably skip him, but others don't have Koleda, or, intend to use their 300 standard reward for someone else. This will make it so people can get an S rank fire stun guaranteed. That's where his value lies. It's also like Qingyi vs. Anby: I really, really don't like Anby. She feels SO backloaded and clunky, so Qingyi was great for me. It's the same thing with Yanagi and Grace. Not everyone is going to get Grace. Some people went for like four years without Mona, Diluc, etc... on Genshin. And of course, some may use their 300 standard reward for someone else. Remember, this is like the Miyabi can't be an ice attacker because Ellen fallacy: BOTH can exist at the SAME time and PLAY differently and offer DIFFERENT playstyles and BONUSES. Koleda offers a chain attack bonus. Perhaps Lighter will do something else. Grace might be good at one thing, and Yanagi another. Just like Ellen being more sustain dps while Miyabi is an ice attacker burst dps. People need to stop being narrow minded. Ganyu and Ayaka are both Cryo dps...but they both operate vastly differently.
@Trime8istus
7 сағат бұрын
Even tho I somehow got a M3 Grace on my F2P account I will pull for Yanagi. Grace works in a Jane Disorder team but it's bc she is strong individually, while Jane wants field time constantly. Also, Yanagi is one of the few characters who I still want to obtain before pulling for what generally good, and her two big reasons while I like her she is pretty and badass :)
@davidcassidy602
10 сағат бұрын
It’s gonna depend on how my Caesar pulls go. If I win the 50/50, Lighter will feel much more affordable. But I must skip at least one of Burnice, Lighter, and Yanagi. I’m confident in my Electric team, but still a bit iffy on my Fire team (Ben C6W1, Lucy C2W2, S11 W1). I am going to have to weigh Lighter against Ben Bigger on that team, and I think Ben might just win.
@AverageLuckGamer
8 сағат бұрын
M6 Ben is actually cracked.
@BlobOfZero
8 сағат бұрын
Wish Lighter was an attacker or literally any other class since i just got koleda but oh well 😢
@yokui6263
10 сағат бұрын
LIGHTER FTWWW!!! I hope Big Daddy is playable as well so more Thirens!!! 17 pity 50/50 I’m saving hard for Lighter yay
@AverageLuckGamer
9 сағат бұрын
Good luck!
@NAHIDWINx
8 сағат бұрын
Since i already have jane and seth, i really want to focus on my 2nd team. So main dps for the 2nd team is what i am gonna save for. Which is probably going to be miyabi. But i wonder like seth for jane, who will be the best duo for miyabi. Since miyabi is like 3 months away, i think i can pull for one more limited 5 star before miyabi comes
@gnarlyboyjai
7 сағат бұрын
Kind of in limbo right now because we just don't know anything definitive about miyabi or her kit. ZZZ has leaks on lock compared to genshin and star rail. There was way more info available for future units in those games. If miyabi is an attacker could caeser be good for her? If she's anomaly Burnice would probably be better or Yanagi if yanagi doesn't need a lot of field time...is harumasa actually an attacker or will they just make him a support of some sort like they did changing lighter from attacker to stunner. By the time we know what Miyabi is Caeser's banner will be over and Burnice's banner will have like 3 days left..
@Luftgitarrenprofi
9 сағат бұрын
Yanagi will be the cornerstone of disorder and whether it holds up as it is or needs tweaking. Burnice prior to that will show if double anomaly is worth it at all, because if she underperforms or is barely better than Lucy M6 in the Jane+Seth team, those anomaly teams aren't looking _so hot._
@bebopknux5857
9 сағат бұрын
My general thoughts are pretty much the same with your rant. So at best all I want is for Lighter to be good so the first S rank Guy after lycan isn't just koldea with extra steps. I don't really like Soilder 11 gameplay so, if I had to use him. It'd probably be on the sons of Calydon team (or more depending on his requirement for his second ability)
@kiracaos
10 сағат бұрын
I know power creep is innevitable in gacha, but to me, it feels like they didn't really think it through when designing the original roster for the game. Literally, the game is about to be 3 months old, and we already got powercreep for Anby, Piper, Grace and Koleda. I would have preferd we got characters classes not yet in the game, like physical stun or anomaly aether or defense ice. They didnt really have in mind type and classes for the OG rosters.
@AverageLuckGamer
8 сағат бұрын
So true.
@F1LT3R_
Сағат бұрын
Im so glad Yanagi is first. Hoyo is throwing a bone to people like me who want to focus on collecting the biker gang members. We get a nice half patch after Caesar/Burnice to save and try for Lighter
@zeroisnine
7 сағат бұрын
Tbh, I would lean Lycaon to be more a generalist than ice buffer, since he is a natural pair with Soukaku, who also provides a general buff alongside his own. And Lighter is a Burnice enabler.
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