I think Souwers main focus now is K1 and winning the title back, maybe it could happen one day..
@arikat1
13 жыл бұрын
souwer fought hard that's why he's cheering. But i think he knows that he was given the decision
@Manoushlight
15 жыл бұрын
Yod win. He did clean hit... and he was always above in point...
@psunthor
15 жыл бұрын
OK, May be I am familiar with Muay thai rules and the way thai judge who win or lose in the ring. However good to see the fight and want to see a rematch...
@s2ktuner
8 жыл бұрын
Yod doesn't have injuries, Andy battered and bruised but still won, what a joke in the Doucheland. Ice up son.
@Antinomaniac
16 жыл бұрын
Yodsanklai was robbed. This fight was the last of the Netherlands vs Thailand fights in the event and apart from one draw the dutch team had lost every one of their fights. The referees were obliged to give the home side at least one win.
@crane76
14 жыл бұрын
My sentiments exactly. Yod severely lacks versatility, unlike Saenchai.
@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns
16 жыл бұрын
That's exactly how I read it. Though though Andy won a the final too. The way to beat Yod is take the fight to him. If you sit back he destroys you with hard kicks. This was the fight before he fought JWP in Singapore. JWP tried the same tactics as Andy but it didn't quite work.
@jeffmoradel15
14 жыл бұрын
Yodsanklai the best!!!
@yiyuwazza
13 жыл бұрын
well, judges robbed yod because he wasn't at home. But at de King's cup judges robbed Cosmo, who won against Yod. So when you aren't at home you have to knock out your rival, or at least give him some protection count.
@bassab26
15 жыл бұрын
In the last one, souwer deserve to win the round.
@muaythaiscorpion
13 жыл бұрын
Andy won this no matter how you slice it but I dont think yod knows the k1 point system I mean he fought with muay thai rules ever since he was a child so its got to be hard for him to adjust to the japanese point system a system that andy has mastered..and everybody talks about how hard yod kicks but what about how hard he punches dude is like a thai mike tyson I seen him ko a guy with a body punch.. Yod vs buakaw I see yod winning that one cuz buakaw likes stand in close and punch it out...
@aemotorsport
14 жыл бұрын
ref were sleeping.
@geebanhunter
14 жыл бұрын
Fixed is the shame of judgement because it make you useless but hey andy ? you glad it ? oh man i have ever like you as the fighter . sigh but now i cant see your pride.
@TheInfernoarmy
10 жыл бұрын
It's K1. The rules are totally different from muay thai rules. Personally, yod would win this fight. So from my opinion the best way for muay thai fighters in a K1 fight is go for a KO. Which might be hard.
@usedx115x
10 жыл бұрын
This isnt K-1, this is Slamm which uses full Thai rules but with Eurostyle scoring.
@Ekzitt
12 жыл бұрын
This result is an embarrassment to the myth called "Dutch Muay Thai" (Which is just kickboxing with lowkicks and minimal clinching).
@jnaoos
16 жыл бұрын
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhsssssssss souwer won
@psunthor
15 жыл бұрын
translation since the first round till the end How many Yod kick Souwer by didn't get any block from Souwer. Why Yod didn't win this fight? Stupid judge
@psunthor
15 жыл бұрын
Ha Ha! Bias Ref
@yobro250
13 жыл бұрын
@theaccempire Yod just lost to some random bum Japanese fighter in THAI RULES...
@Danielinho006
14 жыл бұрын
lol, andy lost this match
@WatWarrior22
16 жыл бұрын
These two guys are in my top 5 favorite fighters and they definitely put on great show big time,
ตั้งแต่ยกแรก เตะเข้าขนาดนี้ เสมอได้ไง ควายจริงๆ ...ช่วยแปลให้ฝรั่งอ่านที ขอบคุณจ้า See u in Thailand
@REQUIEM231
14 жыл бұрын
que puto robo creanme soi admirador e los dos alos dos por igual pero que puto robo devio de aver ganado Yodsanklain buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu estafa
@ruslamcaraieb
14 жыл бұрын
la verdad no me parece ke andy hubiera ganado,yo les daria un empate,el atilandes lo hizo mas ke bien.pero es lo ke hay en estos combates.OSU
@s2ktuner
8 жыл бұрын
I like how everyone here says Yod won and there's this one Dutch fanboy trying to defend his hero, hahahahahaha.
@Bas1
16 жыл бұрын
damn how can you say that andy lost when he obviously dominated the last two rounds,and no blocked kicks are NOT counted in europe. check the fight from a better angle tho, (and better quallity) but o well fans will be fans
@ZeGerman
16 жыл бұрын
do you want me the count the number of times Souwer blocks the middle kick then counters with an unanswered low kick? look at 2:07-2:11for a good example and seeing Souwer push Yod back in the last round, i wouldnt call it ""dominated"". hell its unlike Yod who usually stalks his enemies to be pushed back like that. I give this to Souwer, see nothing wrong with the decision.
@buakawfan1834
13 жыл бұрын
@djsimo149 what the fuck are you talking about at least the round 4 yod had very very big problems to even not get downed by souwer That how i saw the fight: 1 round clearly for yod he totally autclassed souwer 2 round different to judge maby a slight advantage for yod but could be a draw 3 round clearly souwer 4 round clearly yod so if yod was the winner than after the first 3 rounds (in my opionion absolutely ok to give it a draw) but the extra round yod really got owned
@Lotus-Son
13 жыл бұрын
@muaythaiscorpion Agreed. I love Bua's beautiful and technical style but it doesn't lend itself well to a guy that is naturally as big and powerful as Yodsanklai (whereas it seems Bua has to adjust and truly build that size that he has now), who has tremendous hands and a powerful kick. Bua does well against other kickboxers because they're not as strong as he is, but against a true and properly technical Thai fighter with as great/stern as balance as Bua has, there's trouble to be had for him.
@angelcandles
14 жыл бұрын
It just goes to show in poor YODIs face that no matter how good you fight the outcome is always decided on where you fight. In this case Europe. Much respect for Andy former K-1 Champion. He fought hard. But maybe certain orgs will learn to stop robbing fighters. Just like the GREEK pitbull, Golden Gloves, 'IRON MIKE ZAMBIDIS' in Japan.1st against Masato, 2nd against Andy himself who Andy himself was clearly shocked at the decision of an extra round. And last but not least against HINATA.
@papichulobumber1
14 жыл бұрын
@Basketbaka1031 Those tactics would make sense in a muay thai fight where you go 5 rounds and even blocked kicks score points. this is K1 rules and kicks on the arms dont make points, variation and clean hits do. Souwer admitted after the fight the kicks started to hurt but he could take them. He isnt badly hurt as you say. You say it kills the opponent but it doesnt win matches, so whats the point? If yod wants to win k1 matches against topfighters he needs to change...
@Basketbaka1031
14 жыл бұрын
@papichulobumber1 He does the same damn thing cos it fucking kills the opponent. Andy was battered after the fight. The only injury Yod had was probably a small one on his left leg from kicking Andy so much.. Andy's punches, low kicks or "versatile" technique did fuck all to Yod whilst Yod's middle kicks and counter punches battered the hell out of Andy.. Watch the end again. Who is fine and who is hurt so badly? In a fight, that is important That said, Yod was a bit lazy in the final round.
@papichulobumber1
15 жыл бұрын
look at this final round again, can you still say he did the right things? Yod has no variation, same damn middle kick 266 times, newsflash Yod!! you have a right leg, and you can kick high and low to. ssst, this is a secret, you can even make combos. He got outscored-outworked and outclassed that final round, he has no idea how to win against Andy in K1 rules. And then at the end when he stumbles away he throws his hands up with no convinction at all. yeah he really did the right things.
@papichulobumber1
15 жыл бұрын
yeah but you saw that after a while andy regaind balance in those short clinches and wasnt thrown on the ground that often. ofcourse if he was ever to fight on full thai rules, he would train for the clinch, he was shootbox champ which involves throws and clinch aswell Yodsanklai is not Buakaw, thats a faulty comparison. yod would fight his own game not andy's weakness, Im just sayin, the fight itself would look similar. The outcome will probably be different due to different scoring system.
@ephasm
15 жыл бұрын
lol bullshit. There's corrupt judges all over the world but in Thailand you dont see a fight thats CLEARLY in one fighters favor go entirely the other way. The simple fact is that in Belgium they ARE a bit biased when they use belgian judges aren't they. It also doesn't help that K1 is scored differently. It still scores based on effect but it also gives boxing a much higher priority and scores aggression as well as how "busy" a fighter is. That's why you don't get defensive K1 fighters.
@Basketbaka1031
15 жыл бұрын
Yeah true, am surprised that Yoddy was pressured at the end, but the point is, when you're more aggressive, that works well when the other fighter gets more defensive. But it didn't affect yoddy at all. He still got his middle kicks in clean, he still got his jab crosses in bam bam bam. Andy lost the first 2 rounds, and although he did do a lot better in the last round, don't think it was enough to beat yoddy's clean attacks, let alone compensate for the first two rounds...
@sagmann20
16 жыл бұрын
you dono what i know, besides u could say muay thai rules are biased towards thai fighters. say a non thai fighter punches the whole time and never kicks he'd lose a mauy thai fight even if he did more damage, [and dont tell me its bullshit cuz ive seen it happen] you can argue bias till ur blue in the face but the fact of the matter is 2 guyz stepped into the ring and one came out a winner. If yod brutalized andy like everyone seems to think he did, why couldnt he put him down or even drop him?
@sagmann20
16 жыл бұрын
Those were good solid well timed leg kicks. And they landed unlike the 20 or so head kicks yod threw. Those werent weak knees they were short knees. In close the best target would have been the knee or the thigh. I'm sure yod felt them. I thnk it was a clear win for andy, but i wouldnt have been shocked if they gave it to yod, it was close. I mean andy's got wins over buakaw, iron mike, masato, sato...were all those judge manipulation too. I mean can u atleast admit that maybe he won this fight?
@sagmann20
16 жыл бұрын
i never said anything about the second head kick. the first one did do some damage, he may have revovered quickly but it definitely hurt. thats why after the kick he kept clinching everytime souwer got close, and souwer gets annoyed and says something to the reff. Also after the first head kick, yod isnt really throwing his brutal left kick quite a hard. As for the extra round, its common place in a close action packed fight to have an extra round. this is a spectator sport after all.
@sagmann20
16 жыл бұрын
pause the video. andy catches yod cleanly as his hands are down to throw a punch. Yod's head drops and he staggers. The kick hurt. And take a look at the footage (angle is bad) but when u see andy "hurt" and cornered he is blocking all of yod's kicks. shin meets forearm everytime. I dont think judge bias played into this fight. Yod just has a (for lack of better word) lazy style. Souwer was more active with counter punches and leg kicks. I feel it was close but andy wins.
@sagmann20
16 жыл бұрын
granted it was a close fight, but i see andy blocking 90% of yod's kicks and countering with leg kicks beautifully, none of which were checked by yod. The head kick i was referring to was the kick in the round before the extra round, at 1:15 yod's hands were down and he ate a head kick that almost dropped him, after that he seemed to fade a just a little. And if ur talking about souwer hurt in the first round, maybe he was hurt a little but he was still blocking yod's kicks and countering well.
@QOBrien67
16 жыл бұрын
A good definition I've seen is a "Foot-thrust will be mainly used as offensive technique to block the opponent's attack [...][B]ut using foot-thrust first then follow by kick or other weapon quickly maybe the good practice to learn." Yes Leg kicks are effective as attacks, but so are teeps. And judging by the flailing punches Souwer was throwing at the end vs the hard roundkicks Yod was throwing, draw your own conclusion on who was affected more. And for the record I have fought and won, you?
@timmyz55
16 жыл бұрын
You're misinterpreting me. Someone made a point that Yod was not checking leg kicks. I said that Souwer was not checking teeps. Did anywhere I say teeps were more effective, or that it should have affected the outcome? No. You took the liberty to assume that, perhaps you had a rough day and wanted to blow off some steam. That's cool. You said that I don't know what was bothering Yod. Yet you assume the leg kicks did? Anyway man, chill, there's no need to argue pointlessly over a comment.
@Agent-K
13 жыл бұрын
@yobro250 if you think we all robbing foreigner then you're pretty wrong. i think everyone would do the same and not only Thai peoples, what you're saying right now about thai people is racist right now.people robbing each other happens in every country. souwer won the fight, i know that that is a fact. im not favouring anyone.
@buakawfan1834
13 жыл бұрын
@djsimo149 well i dont really know about the first three rounds but i absolutely think souwer won the extra round, everytime yod fired a middle kick souwer contered with a clear !!! lowkick so in extreme that means 1 point to souwer and no point to yod ( if it is on full muay thai rules than its a different story)
@AlphaBravoDingo
14 жыл бұрын
Andy landed like 10x more punches than Yod, andy kicked yod in the head! and the legs. Yod teepe'd him, and kicked him in the arms. If you think Yod one this fight, you're pretty stupid. I don't care how many "arm kicks" you land, and a punch to the face actually scores. Andy = clean shots, Yod =nothing.
@papichulobumber1
14 жыл бұрын
"Go in head down to their shoulder, hug the opponent, the complain that they're clinching for no reason" Have to agree with you on that one, its a way to influence the judges. Clinching is a natural response for a thai but in K1 its deemed to be passive behaviour. K1 fighters use this against the thais...
@papichulobumber1
15 жыл бұрын
why would it make such a difference, Full MT rules? point 1, Andy isnt a bitch in the clinch, ok he's not as good as a Thai, but he wont be thrown to the ground constantly neither. Point 2 Yod has a more kicking and boxing style anyways, he doesnt search the clinch. Hes style is perfect for K1-max, he could win if he did the right things.
@karn1941
15 жыл бұрын
I have but one question: what the fuck are souwers' forearms made of? Because he blocks with his forearms and yod, it seems, can kick really HARD. When doing padwork, i've felt kicks come ramming right through the pads, so i just can't understand how anyone could take all these kicks(for rounds!) with his bare forearms and keep on punching.
@yamofaka
15 жыл бұрын
Yod is a master of destroying the power arm of a fighter. Seems like he's got the power to cut his opponent in half. Western fighters don't seem to have any idea of how to stop it. Definitely think Yod won this fight and fairly easily at that. Souwer was more active but there wasn't a moment in this fight where Yod wasn't in control.
@BBJ8000
15 жыл бұрын
For everyone that doesn't know Muay Thai, Yod is southpaw and throwing his number one weapon, his left kick often on ANdy's right arm ( Main arm) it checks his arm and also weakens it. NO Andy did not block those kicks, YES Yod threw them at his ARM on purpose, yes they score points. Notice how little Andy threw his main hand? Because it was hurting like shit.
@papichulobumber1
15 жыл бұрын
cmon man, i watched the last round again now, your fighter didnt make one hit, only on blocks. This is not full muay thai rules, you have to score clean. Kicks on the arm dont count. Anyway Souwer is a great fighter with K1 rules, good balance, good kicks, fast hands, he can clinch. He won the fight, maybe with other rules it would be different
@sagmann20
16 жыл бұрын
Yod wasnt "gassed" he was hurt. 1st and 2nd round yod does his standard barrage of left kicks and his punches from a lazy guard position. Souwer blocked them all and counterd his predictable kicks with excellent leg kicks and punching combinations. Souwer won every round, especially the extra round. Sure judges may be biased sometiems but this was a clear cut win for souwer
@Arcalai
16 жыл бұрын
I agree Yod was hard done by, but he really needed to destroy Souwer to take away the hometown advantage with the judging. I would like to see a rematch on neutral ground. I hope Yod gets some more big name fights and does really well this year, he certainly has the skills!
@Agent-K
14 жыл бұрын
as far as i can see, Yod isnt taking it serious, in every round. he just play with Andy like every muay thai would do when they fight against a foreigner. also there is no kind of high prize for the winner when he wins in this competition, so its kinda waste if you would go 200% strength.
@psunthor
15 жыл бұрын
Want to see Souwer join Lumpinee & Rachadumnern stadium in Thailand in Muay Thai fight it could be fun...Many foreign looking for the belt their. If you got chance to come to Thailand have a look around both stadiums for experience of Muaythai fight & judgement.
@sagmann20
15 жыл бұрын
yeah on second look i can admit that Yod's strikes were heavier ad probly did more damage. and nothing against andy butim sure K-1 rules aided him in his victory (lol) but the guy i was youtubin back and forth with was being such dick that i just decided to be stubborn about it
@papichulobumber1
14 жыл бұрын
finally someone who agrees with me:) all these stuborn people. look, everybody can see this is a very tough fight for souwer.but people lose sight of the fight cause they tend to favor the thai fighter for their stance and how relax they look in the ring.
@gts013
16 жыл бұрын
on top of this, yod was forced to cut extra weight the day before weigh ins and didn't even have his own cornermen during the fight. all of which he was unaware of until the last minute!!!!! WAR YOD! he won this fight and will dismantle andy in the rematch.
@shadyeskimo
16 жыл бұрын
This wasnt muay thai rules but K1 rules,so they couldnt bring pride of the Muay Thai because its NOT Muay Thai. No Elbows and No Clinc.
@papichulobumber1
15 жыл бұрын
Yeah me to, maybe the next Thailand vs Holland, two of greatest kickbox nations. We own it all to you, in 1975 a delegation of dutch trainers went to thailand to learn your training methods. Thank you
@puzema
15 жыл бұрын
Yeaa...i am really surprised by judges decision,i think Yods tecnique was much better ,and Andy missed alot of punches ................Yod was much more accurate...........(F*****g pissed))
@sagmann20
16 жыл бұрын
:::sigh::: theres no reasoning with you...i give up, fine YODSAENKLAI THE CHAMPION OF EVERYTHING won...but Souwer got the W, so it really doesnt matter. maybe the rematch will be the deciding fight.
@timmyz55
16 жыл бұрын
And you might want to rectify your comment to say, "You've never trained or sparred a day of *Muay Thai* in your life." In which case, I wholeheartedly agree. That doesn't affect, however, my statement.
@puzema
15 жыл бұрын
yeah yod should have won the fight ,its also obvious that none of souwers kicks or punches hurt yod he clearly won but since its souwers territory judges gave him the win
@sagmann20
15 жыл бұрын
yeah, nothings sacred anymore...i hate regular sports, fight sports is the only thing i can tolerate, but now in comes the politics...people really have a way of fucking up everything...
@timmyz55
16 жыл бұрын
yes, because we all know those leg kicks were severely affecting yod. [/sarcasm] what's your point? i'm just pointing out his post, did i say that it should have affected the decision?
@titaniumwolf2
16 жыл бұрын
YEA YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!! some of the worlds best are dutch~ no doubt about it, and andy proved it! hes fast, strong, and on top of that smart! (coming from new zealand)
@IamAlwaysRight
15 жыл бұрын
Andy always cramps up the rhythm in the last round.. I think that's why he always wins the decision, he looked better in the last round i gotta admit that.
@mattotonton
16 жыл бұрын
very good job yoddy did well against k1 max champ andy in k1 max rules like to see full thai rules it would last about two rounds with ko by elbow by yoddy
@usedx115x
10 жыл бұрын
Unless you put huge weight into scoring kicks blocked by the arms, Souwer clearly won.
@ber74
13 жыл бұрын
yodsanklai leg defense is very poor, and souwer grab points from this. i prefer yodsanklai, but overall, i think it s a pretty fair decision
@sizzla123
16 жыл бұрын
yod got robbed!! no fair, he landed many more blows and did much better all round. i smell judge bribery!!
@psunthor
15 жыл бұрын
how can souwer win this fight? only souwer can do is kick on the yod's legs. want to see souwer fight with yod in full muay thai rules
@papichulobumber1
15 жыл бұрын
the fight shouldnt have lasted much longer for the Thai, he was taking everything towards the end, see how he wobles of after the bell
@bizzle187
16 жыл бұрын
ignore these biased fools. they are thai purists who can't get over the fact that the dutch are just as good if not better at the sport.
1:52 typical Andy Souwer... Go in head down to their shoulder, hug the opponent, the complain that they're clinching for no reason..
@Basketbaka1031
15 жыл бұрын
Yod has a mean elbow that Andy couldn't answer to.. and tbh, he should have won cos he did do the right things... Yod > Petrosyan!
@numthai68
15 жыл бұрын
yod win this round. andy cry that he could not punch. Andy coming back at end this round. What I see that Andy got hurt more
@khmerster209
16 жыл бұрын
i give it to souwer even im a fan of yod most of yod kick is block by souwer and low kick from souwer landed time after time
@koronkax
16 жыл бұрын
yod did more power techniques but souwer connected more, i think it should have been a draw or split decision to souwer
@NoxRocks87
12 жыл бұрын
Exactly, they want to promote European fighters in order to to win audience and popularity to the sport in Europe...
@sagmann20
16 жыл бұрын
so basically what your saying is yod didnt put andy down because andy is a good fighter? thanx for helping my point...
@IamAlwaysRight
14 жыл бұрын
Im not saying Andy didnt deserve the win... but this goes to show how suggestive the result of a fight can be.
@sjaakverduijn9315
9 жыл бұрын
yeah ofcourse he kicked him 1000 times to the body and souwer still standing hahaha you ever been kicked in the body 1 good shot is enough fot a tko 90% got blocked by his arms realise the arms isnt the body ;)
@Akegalak
14 жыл бұрын
Cheating , if real muaythai fighting by the muaythai rules Yods is win b cause Yods strongest n' look good
@papichulobumber1
15 жыл бұрын
maybe, but from the fights from Yodsaenkla ive seen, it looks like clinching is not really in his gameplan.
@IamAlwaysRight
16 жыл бұрын
I didnt bother checking out the other rounds, but this last one was clearly won by a more agressive Souwer.
@NoxRocks87
12 жыл бұрын
Yes, its like style-points for dominance. And you tire your opponent by immobilizing his punches...
@bizzle187
16 жыл бұрын
yeah eh, those potentially fight-ending, brutal teeps. gotta watch out for those devastating strikes.
@koronkax
16 жыл бұрын
well i'm sure the judges know how to judge pro kickboxing. and they gave it to souwer
@yobro250
13 жыл бұрын
@bizzle187 Lol I agree 100 percent...I know 13 year olds who can outbox some thais
@bizzle187
13 жыл бұрын
@buakawfan1834 finally, a thai fan who isn't biased. it was close but souwer won.
@SanatoZen
13 жыл бұрын
what a joke. It was either a draw or not andy winning... Just like against Buakaw.
@bbathk
15 жыл бұрын
close fight.. could go either way .. why ppl complaining about the decision...???
@KingObould
15 жыл бұрын
dutch judging is so fucking biased! same with buakaw and kraus. Yod clearly won!
@Adrakky
15 жыл бұрын
souwers good but he obviously wasnt e winner in this fight...the judges sucks
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