I followed Ralof in my first playthrough, and eventually went to Windhelm to join the Stormcloaks. Then I heard Galmar talking about gutting my friend Balgruuf to death, while Lydia was standing right there. Then I heard Ulfric say "Damn the Moot, and Damn the Jarls." After that I took a step back, reevaluated the situation, and switched teams. I do like the Season Unending side of things, and wish I could tell Tullius and Ulfric that "When I get back, the next one of you that starts the war up again, will find me on the other side."
@violentxrp
Ай бұрын
Imperial will be the Canon ending by the end. I respect it, not saying the thamlor are wrong but General Tillus convinced me his way is the correct way to truly change things.
@GraveyardXrow
2 ай бұрын
If you talk to General Tullius after his speech there is a certain dialogue choice that will have him tell you, "what I'm not so sure about is the peace we've made with the Thalmor, but let's keep that between you and I." The only reason the Empire signed a peace treaty was because they were getting their butts kicked in the war. The Thalmor let Ulfric escape, because they knew it would cause an uproar, and the longer it continues the more resources and soldiers are lost, thus enabling the Thalmor to get stronger while the stormcloaks and empire get weaker. So you see, Ulfric starting this rebellion was exactly what the Thalmor wanted. He was still a pawn being played by them and he had no idea. To add salt to the wound, the stormcloaks were being provided resources by the Thalmor as is stated in the Dossier that you can find in Thalmor Embassy. Go to Windhelm, and you can find a Altmer girl selling weapons. Just talk to her, and she starts to seem really suspicious. Another thing to consider is the fact that the Stormcloaks probably wouldn't be able to fight off the rest of the Empire if they won, especially since the Elves will probably join in.
@steijnvanb4634
Ай бұрын
least seething simperial when some1 chooses stormcloak
@thorodinsson5684
Ай бұрын
The thalmor let him escape inso the war would happen the quicker the war happens easier for the witchelves would be able to take Skyrim this is why the thalmor shouldve assassinated the Dragonborn when they had there chance many times this could’ve happened and they never did cause the Dragonborn alone has the power to stop every major threat while sleepin and a bunch of elves that’s light work for the Dragonborn eats them for breakfast and Pisses a stream of maltin gold
@flammenwaffenfries3039
2 ай бұрын
Storm Cloaks always. The empire is a shell of what it once was
@def4ult550
Ай бұрын
So dividing it further helps?
@Sin_Alder
Ай бұрын
@@def4ult550 So surrendering ones rights and rolling over for tyrranical dictators helps?
@def4ult550
Ай бұрын
@Sin_Alder this ain't the fallout legion
@darkstar9956
Ай бұрын
@@Sin_Alder Surrendering so the entire Empire and it's people don't die and we can regain strength to fight again and win? I would definitely do that
@brookemartin9798
Ай бұрын
There's A way to escape helgen without choosing To go with headbar or rayloff and if you do It. There's an Imperial that would normally For pretend to be on the side of whoever you escaped helgen with
@joaniebell8488
Ай бұрын
Storm cloaks for life!!!!
@Big407zone
2 ай бұрын
If you call a truce between the Stormcloaks and the Imperials, the Thalmor lose, so that's the correct ending. I think choosing the empire or calling a truce is canon.
@dyanaprajna4556
Ай бұрын
I've heard rumors, so take it with a grain of salt, but that esvi reveals that the empire winning is in canon. There's a few other small hints, but they're questionable. Still, I prefer the empire.
@EXEMASTER
Ай бұрын
@@dyanaprajna4556the Empire are anti traditionalists who are not only foreign Invaders of Skyrim from cyrodiil what are controlled by another foreign people telling them to invade other foreign people like the Nords to take over the country so you picking the Empire over the Stormcloaks is just blind and ignorant
@EXEMASTER
Ай бұрын
@@dyanaprajna4556 the Nords conquered the land back when civilization wasn't even a thing and morals weren't really too much of a thing but it does not matter because the snow elves were barbaric egotistical and Evil and attacked the Nords first so the Nords destroyed them and conquered them and took the land as their own and it became the home of the human race in Tamriel. And the empire was a good thing for Skyrim until the Empire betrayed Skyrim and the Nords by signing a surrender to the elves and wanted to enact their evil plans for Skyrim which is why Ulfric left the empire for his own people once more.
@NewTechNerd
Ай бұрын
@@EXEMASTERThe Snow Elves and the Dwemer were far more advanced than the Nords, just because they were ignorant and didn't have a real society doesn't mean the elves didn't, the history of the world already proved that, the high elves had an insane infrastructure before it collapsed and the Snow Elves were just defending their land and people.
@EXEMASTER
Ай бұрын
@@NewTechNerd in the lore the snow elves were violent and barbaric and would enslave and kill people who disagreed with them a lot like the dark elves butt on a larger scale. They were evil from the start so for someone like the Nords to come and destroy and conquer them is not a moral shortcoming for the Nords because they were bad from the start
@Jayyy667
2 ай бұрын
Skyrim belongs to the nords
@grantgravelle9935
2 ай бұрын
Skyrim belongs to the snow elves
@Jayyy667
Ай бұрын
@@grantgravelle9935 they thought so too
@bruhgod123
Ай бұрын
Skyrim as well as all of Tamriel belongs to the Dunmer.
@bruhgod123
Ай бұрын
@@grantgravelle9935 Wrong it belongs to the Dunmer.
@grantgravelle9935
Ай бұрын
@@Jayyy667 well the snow elf in the dawn guard dlc says the Nords came from their land a conquered skyrim pushing them into the dwarves land tricked them into being experimental lab rats which caused the to become the falmer, he also mentioned they were a very prosperous race
@targetida3999
2 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter because everyone will be brutally rear ended by the Aldmeri Dominion 😭
@bruhgod123
Ай бұрын
The Aldmeri dominion won because they had a daedric artifact.
@Azybiash
Ай бұрын
@@bruhgod123 also the emperor realised that thalmor would win nevertheless their success at the white-gold tower, so it was easier to accept a peace to rebuild and regroup than to keep fighting a lost cause
@Jrs-tl4kk
2 ай бұрын
Depends on what you do in the game really, for a warrior, i would choose a nord stormcloak, for a mage i would choose imperials because the college of winterhold doesnt like the nords, for a thief/assassin i would choose imperial because the thieves guild is connected with the imperials, erikur of solitude, the battleborns of whiterun, the redguard in Markarth, and the dark elf in windhelm, so for me it just depends on the playstyle, and the politics of the game, because some races are hated by others and so i play accordingly with that as well.
@HieronymusBosch-op6cg
Ай бұрын
read the books in the thamlor enbassy the books say that ulfric was a good pawn or something along those lines
@AdolphoHitta
Ай бұрын
Stormcloaks forever! Must cleanse the nordic r acial holy land from elves and redgard mercenaries!
@ShinAk1raSama
Ай бұрын
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies! Like Imperials and Nords! Or Dunmer and Nords! Or Altmers and Nords! Or Nords and other Nords! Damn Nords! They ruined Skyrim!
@chadnorris8257
Ай бұрын
You Nords sure are a contentious bunch.
@ShinAk1raSama
Ай бұрын
@@chadnorris8257 Ulfric Stormcloak: YOU JUST MADE AN ENEMY FOR LIFE!
@ailius1520
Ай бұрын
Whichever faction the Dragonborn decides to support becomes the correct faction. The Empire to begin with was a Divine Right of Kings model in which the Dragonborn of the time was in charge. So if the current Dragonborn feels it's legitimate, it's legitimate. If the current Dragonborn sides against it, it's illegitimate.
@orest395
Ай бұрын
The way I see it, the Dragonborn would join the stormcloaks since they would appreciate almost put to death for no reason
@TylerBalazsDurden
Ай бұрын
I didn't check on your channel, the growth is CRAAZY, God bless!
@thadnipper9411
Ай бұрын
Skyrim is for the Nords!
@wyattroland
2 ай бұрын
iv always chose the 3rd route, kill everybody, especially the elves. when it come to the quest line, you can friendly fire.
@cameronhacker7786
Ай бұрын
Norse Pagen here but I believe that every God exist to be one Being that has presented themselves in a way that is most acceptable to those presented to
@danielkruger9605
2 ай бұрын
I'm a stormcloak fan
@chrishernandez3915
Ай бұрын
Honestly there is no right or wrong side lol I personally join the Imperials cause early game they let you choose your style of armor. Stormclokes are automatic light armor which sucks unless that’s your preferred armor. Besides all that only the test is different. You kill Ulfric. Storm cloaks you banish Bulgref and kill General T. The other is a few Jarl changes.
@Like_a_Tiger.dr0p
Ай бұрын
For a strong and secure society, for the imperial
@POINT69.................
Ай бұрын
I Literally Never Participated In Imperial Quest
@Like_a_Tiger.dr0p
Ай бұрын
@@POINT69................. suck to be you
@ChristopherHilliard-dw3kt
Ай бұрын
I choose stormcloak usually but the imperial gears worth more
@Genesis-9628
Ай бұрын
Am I going crazy or is there goat simulator music playing in the background
@crossrazor
Ай бұрын
At first i was always storm cloak then i learned how to role play
@alexhuskey
Ай бұрын
Dude your distuction guid its crazy ty dude
@RichardChapman-kg9pj
2 ай бұрын
Yay new jake video
@LotsOfLancelot
2 ай бұрын
My guy Jake
@ParkerP4218
2 ай бұрын
Either you are a giant or that Diet Coke can was a mini 😂😂
@JamesGuile-h2j
Ай бұрын
Which came first the chicken or the egg?
@kboutdoors4599
2 ай бұрын
I always go with Imperials bc I like to live in Solitude tbh. I’ve played both but prefer Imperials
@RoyRyanWard
Ай бұрын
Neither one of them. Go to the Greybeards for a truce.
@tauIrrydah
Ай бұрын
Always go with Ralof because Imperial armour is worth more. Only ever do the empire because I hate how racist Nords are and Ulfric is a traitor working for the Thalmor to undermine the Empire. I mean the precursor to the Nords are the Draugur and they worshipped the dragons while Alduin enslaved humanity and I don't think the apple ever fell far from the white-savior-complex tree.
@cameronhacker7786
Ай бұрын
In otherwords feel free to think the way you think because if my beliefe is right aslong as you show faith and live by the way that God or The Gods have presented themself/selfs to you then i believe we will all see eachother on the other side eventually
@k.santos7021
Ай бұрын
jake do you know about the blood hill manor staff enchanter
@thorodinsson5684
Ай бұрын
Stormcloaks win there are multiple reasons to prove this it’s all mainly because of the Dragonborn and his choices on what groups he sides with the DB assassinates the emperor thieves guild steals highly valuable jewelry and things from the east empire company and your character his self even if your playin as Dragonborn or not the imperials make a point to try and kill you from the start makin the character more likely to hate the imperials but knowin Bethesda theyer gonna have the imperials win the only thing the imperials have is the sheer size of their numbers and there’s multiple races that side with the empire because every race assumes that all Nords are racist to anyone that isn’t a Nord and we know this is not true cause when your not a Nord your treated like anyone else in the stormcloak army and ulfric himself trust you with some of the most important battles and other things in his army even makin the Dragonborn one of his generals
@AnosVoldigoad31
2 ай бұрын
I always choose the Imperials.
@Marinanor
Ай бұрын
I lean towards the Empire ever so slightly
@thesuperunknownn
2 ай бұрын
Imperials all the way because I love the Roman Empire
@codyschuppert4984
Ай бұрын
Romans cringe mongols are based 🗿
@talonmassakir9000
Ай бұрын
Imps. Skyrim, Cyrodiil, everyone loses if you pick stormjokes
@whattheF0X
Ай бұрын
I like the imperials personally. Partially preference because I am not a fan of preachy people, those types usually hide behind their true motive by overclaiming their roles when they don't actually believe what they stand for. But there are 3 reasons outside of that why I choose imperial. 1 - A lot of Nords in general (not just windhelm and not for the "Nords are racist" meme's) are very "Skyrim belongs to the Nords" when they technically aren't Skyrim natives themselves. So they are very preachy to the races that aren't "human" in appearance and very close minded individuals. While there are Nords in the imperial army, they are more soldiers who put aside the differences to protect the citizens of the towns they watch over. Where Windhelm and Stormcloak supporter cities are just blatently open with their dislike of other cultures. 2 - Ulfric is "actually" a traitor, not just by the words of the Imperials, but he was actually a member of the Imperial Army that went rouge and started fighting against his former comrads. While there might have been a buildup as to why and the dismissal of Talos being the final straw in his betrayal. He did go full murder-hobo on imperials and imperial supporters when the actual Imperials were basically forced to sign a peace treaty with the Thalmor (That they don't like or agree with). But to keep the peace and not bring innocents into the crossfire, they signed a treaty to keep the kill count down. That and the banning of Talos was actually a decree by the Thalmor that the Imperials "had" to enforce in order to not go to war again. But if you see some in game lore and moments, there are still Talos worshipers out there that the Imperials ignore blindly. Some of them actually say "We're not going to stop you, but just don't get caught and do it in your own homes instead of public." So they aren't against Talos, just have to enforce public preachings to not cause a riot. 3 - Hadvar is genuinely a good dude and the Whiterun Jarl is very appreciative of defending his people. Since he was neutral in the war, and only really took sides when his people were in danger from the Stormcloaks. Hadvar not actually wanting to send you to the chopping block at the beginning and actually saying "They are not on the list." But forced to follow orders because he is a soldier and couldn't voice it. But helps you anyway to escape and start over in whatever playthru you do. All in all, no side is right or wrong, just fighting for different reasons. But the Imperials are trying to do what is right for the collective people, where Ulfric is "Sons of Skyrim" (When they aren't actually natives to Skyrim) and preachy. I get the "vengence arc" of the Imperials trying to kill you in the beginning for something you didn't do, but if you look at it from a 3rd point of view. They'd been chasing Ulfric and his people for a long time and the only way to guarantee a "Second Ulfric" from being founded, it was a hard decision they had to make to kill everyone present at the time. So it was a case of wrong place, wrong time for the MC in the beginning. But I understand why they "had" to, even if they didn't want to. Just to catch Ulfric the (actual) military traitor being court marshaled. Is it fair? No. Just unfortunate. But even after you go to Legate and the General, they don't just clamp you in irons the moment you meet, they give you a second chance to help. Which kinda reminds me of Parthanax in a way. "What is better? To be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?" The imperials are trying to become good, so I think they deserve a chance. Where the Stormcloaks are very Alduin in their dominance and desire to rule.
@HowardHilmer-Tyson
Ай бұрын
Played the stormcloak questline till after the battle for whiterun. Honestly it left a bad taste in my mouth because you have to start the Dragon questline at dragonreach and many of the npc's you interact with are gone afterwards. Maybe I'm to honorable.. And yeah it's just a game but the story line and the quests actual make you think about these choices we all make, In game or in real life as individuals that define "who" we are. Peace and keep the faith.
@peckish_tooth6515
Ай бұрын
I side with the Empire for the Civil War, because a united realm is better for everyone. But at the beginning I go with Ralof because I get to spank the b**** that sent me to the block. And I still think it's sad that all I have to do to pick a fight with the Thalmor is to say "Hail Talos". Then it it's on, no matter who I side with.
@piotrdworowy183
2 ай бұрын
Well Ulfric was dragonborn before us that made him "historical" hero.So basically Ulfric is the right site I guess.
@janeenschultz8502
Ай бұрын
He's not dragonborn, he's just trained in the Voice.
@dyanaprajna4556
Ай бұрын
@@janeenschultz8502yeah, one doesn't have to be dragonborn to learn the voice, it just takes of study and practice.
@pluck8913
Ай бұрын
Use to be a Stormcloak, but then found the letters in the Thalmor embassy talking about how the Thalmore agent Ulfric Stormcloak was helping them. They are using the Civil War to weaken the Empire. And as far as the religious freedom thing, yes the worship of Talos was outlawed, but until Ulfric started making it into an issue no one was really enforcing it. The Empire was simply pretending to not know it was still going on. Then Ulfric started agitating the issue, the Thalmor started demanding the Empire do something, and Talos worship became a real crime. Ulfric is at best an ignorant fool or at worst a traitor. Either way it's humanity that loses.
@chrismills2439
Ай бұрын
did you hear about your Talos? He got his hands on the Numidian from Vivec and like all beings with dreams of grandeur and founding an empire he used it. His war crimes your empire never answered for, Countless Mer and Khajiit lost and for what and then the numidian is active during the dragobreak? Your Talos was a mistake and at least Ysgramor did what he thought was right amidst the conspiracies that the Dwemer had a hand with Sarthaal. Yeah the Thalmor are scum too. - Esareth Leafblate the Traveler( yes I'm an Altmer, and do not get me started on the Redguard)
@dyanaprajna4556
Ай бұрын
Neither side is innocent, and they both have their issues. But me personally, i side with the imperials. The only way tamriel can survive the onslaught of the dominion is united. Skyrim under the stormcloaks wouldnt have the resources as the empire. The empire had no choice but to sign the white gold concordat. They dont actually try to enforce the talos ban,because they dont agree with it. It was a temporary evil in order to appease the dominion long enough to build back up and make their attack on the thalmor.
@Reaper1008
2 ай бұрын
Stormcloak vs Imperial... kind of like Democrats vs Republican's... Blue vs Red. Not an exact comparison.. but.. I always go red.
@Sin_Alder
Ай бұрын
Not really. Red in this case is more like Democrats. Eating away at people's freedoms and being about as pro big government as it gets. Blue, the Stormcloaks, line up more with the real life red, being moreso in favor of freedom and self governance.
@sparkssweden
Ай бұрын
I'm one of those pesky Christian fundamentalists, but I usually (nowadays) go with the Empire. Religious freedom to worship Talos sounds ok, but didn't Ulfric eradicate the Forsworn because of their beliefs? Sounds a bit hypocritical if you ask me.. Let's fight for the Skaal! ;)
@SenpaiJake
Ай бұрын
@@sparkssweden nothing pesky about being a Christian! We follow Christ here my man!
@Sin_Alder
Ай бұрын
So... you're willing to fight on behalf of something you KNOW is wrong because you don't like the messenger? You claim to be Christian, but are devoid of morals or principal?
@kboutdoors4599
2 ай бұрын
First
@wyattroland
2 ай бұрын
to get a kick in the ass.
@AnosVoldigoad31
2 ай бұрын
I mean the Imperials are the good guys. The Stormcloaks are just racists. No offense to people that like the Stormcloaks. I get into this fight all the time with my cousin lol. I like the Imperials and he likes the Stormcloaks.
@flammenwaffenfries3039
2 ай бұрын
Sorry comrade, back to the bread line
@bucketheadwendy5358
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, those terrible nords trying to protect and preserve their land and people from a failing empire that aids elves whi literally believe they are superior and should control the world😂
@wyattroland
2 ай бұрын
in a war the only good guys are the winners, also fuck the aldmeri dominion. and almost every race is more racist than the nords, you meet the bretons?
@83shadow3
2 ай бұрын
Only their leader is racist because the one that is put in charge of like. Markarth has a Argonian housecarl so if they where racist they. Would have a nord housecarl so that proves you wrong that they are all racist. Even the general shop owner in Falketh auto correct hats the names of places in Skyrim. But he was as StormClok an he's not racist so it's manly their leader only that's racist.
@AnosVoldigoad31
Ай бұрын
@@83shadow3 True Ulfric is the racist. Thanks for correcting me.
@eyegodexe22
2 ай бұрын
i always join the imperials and give the crown to ulfric
@POINT69.................
Ай бұрын
Top 10 anime betrayal's
@drgonserpent
2 ай бұрын
A few days ago trying to do the Stormcloak wrestling and I just got done with the Battle of a Whiterun and the game wouldn't let me continue
@devonlimlaw2851
21 сағат бұрын
I was always storm cloaks but now just stay neutral
@EXEMASTER
Ай бұрын
Here's my input on it from my knowledge on the lore and overall gameplay. The Empire from what I've heard from in-game dialogue used to be Allied and friends with the Nordic people but then the elves came and made a type of deal in the white gold Tower in the middle of cyrodiil where if the Imperials were to give the elves a good bit of control they wouldn't invade and take them over and as cowardice as the Empire is they instead of fighting gave in to the Elven Supremacy and under elvin leadership the Imperials were ordered to take over Skyrim and overthrow any Nordic resistance or traditionalists and even outlawed their God and religion. This inherently makes the Imperials the bad guys because they are anti traditionalist foreigns taking over the country under the order of another foreign group of people. While the storm cloaks on the other hand are the quite literal true Sons and Daughters of Skyrim who are traditionalists and fascists towards their country and people and are willing to fight and die any and all foreign threats against their country and though they are ethnically shut out and do not like elves they have good reasons to dislike elves because the dark elves have a history of being Mass slavers the High Elves have a history of trying to dominate the world and are doing it right now and the widows have a history of worshiping the werewolf deity and slaughtering innocent Nords and for everyone else well their country is being taken over by a foreign so they're not going to be so happy towards other foreign people coming into their land. This would immediately make them the good guys in the story because they are traditionalist fascists who are against foreign threats trying to take over their country so anyone with a working frontal lobe will realize that the storm cloaks are the good guys and to fight against them is to fight with a foreign power trying to take over Skyrim
@Content_Keepers
Ай бұрын
FOR THE STORMCLOAKS
@raidenshogun6433
2 ай бұрын
Hiiiii I love your vids so glad there is a new one so wholesome and fun!!
@Clown_the_Clown
Ай бұрын
Ulfric Stormcloak is a tool whol uses charisma to get what he wants. Ulfric plays right into the Thalmor's hands, The Empire is only buying time until they take on the Aldmeri Dominion.
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