You left out the most glaring issue. When you make a contract with webnovel they own your book. For small time writers, that's not such a big deal but the right of the book are no longer in your hand.
@nikro144
7 ай бұрын
I did mention it though. There is a link in the description to the contract analysis
@FrozenPulse169
2 ай бұрын
Back when I was 17, they messaged me saying they wanna contract a book which I had written 3 chapters of with a prologue and extra bonus chapters. However, my parents didn't agree to let me open a bank account back then so I couldn't do it. I kinda regretted it back then because I just wanted to try and see how it's like to earn from a book, but I do recall the start of the contract included something like writing a chapter of at least 2k words within a short deadline or something for money that's only worth around 30k pkr (my currency in Pakistan) per month and on seeing the info in this video I feel like the work wouldn't be worth the effort, because once ur only down to mainly earning from royalties, they're probably gonna take a huge chunk from there too.
@clueloss5373
2 ай бұрын
@@FrozenPulse169 so did they just offer you a contract or did u apply for one?
@FrozenPulse169
2 ай бұрын
@@clueloss5373 they offered it on wattpad after I published a book called globally realistic poems and then invited me on their discord server, even finding the guy who originally offered it was a hassle ngl.
@FrozenPulse169
2 ай бұрын
@@clueloss5373 offered thru wattpad
@XenoNooby
6 ай бұрын
they also blind your eyes with a flashbang when its dark
@nikro144
6 ай бұрын
Heh, true, I forgot about that xD
@TheQuiteGuy69
5 ай бұрын
@@nikro144 do you know any good sites for a begginer to upload a book, I want to write a book but hate the fast pass system and just want others to enjoy the story I was thinking of just writing very long chapters but realized that the amount of fast passes needed to unlock a chapter will increase, so I was thinking of writing the book on WebNovel but than upload it onto another site so others can read it for free
@I_USED_DRUGS_EVERYDAY
3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 fr
@BIGBOSS3DAnimation
Ай бұрын
i thought i was the only one😅😂.
@johnkula1536
11 ай бұрын
I was just using it because I found it and it was there. I was not aware that it was a bad option or that there were better options. I've never spent a single cent on it. I just support the authors as I can without spending money by voting with daily power stones and energy stones, using fast passes to get chapters for free, and giving a review of novels that I've read because I've heard that helps.
@ihab1635
4 ай бұрын
Is the application paid?
@shironoyami7002
13 күн бұрын
@@ihab1635 the app is free most of the items are free but some are charged per chapter or smth.
@FrozenPulse169
2 ай бұрын
I literally just searched this video after downloading it again after three years. Thanks for the warning, I'm not gonna publish my new book there.
@GodlyWriterNox
4 ай бұрын
Webnoveol is more for those who dont care about their rights to the book, like those seeking to just earn some money, or new authors who want experience or need a platform that offers promo. Webnovel does has its pros and cons, you just gotta decide which path is right for you. If your publishing on all platforms and want your rights, but still want to put it on Webnovel, don't sign the contract if you get sent one.
@swaggycluuu
Ай бұрын
So signing contract is a choice not compulsory for publishing?
@GodlyWriterNox
Ай бұрын
@@swaggycluuu Yes, you can choose to get contracted or not, you just won't have as much promo & won't have locked chapters. It would be similar to like publishing on RoyalRoad if you don't accept the contract.
@swaggycluuu
Ай бұрын
@@GodlyWriterNox Got it thanks for your reply but can we still earn without locked chapter if income is in pennies?
@GodlyWriterNox
Ай бұрын
@@swaggycluuu They only way to earn on webnovel without a contract is starting a patreon
@darklightmvp4740
Жыл бұрын
I put all my novels in every sites including the evil sites for promotions, but I started uploading in Webnovel and have no idea that they were that evil. I don't know how to cancel my contract to my first book that I've ever published.
@nikro144
Жыл бұрын
From what I know there is no way to cancel the contract with them unless they break some rule of the contract (in example by not paying you money in time.) I think if you already have your work contracted there's probably nothing you can do about it. Webnovel is bad but it's not the end of the world and you can always not contract your next work. I also recommend looking into the article that I linked into the description
@Abishkar-q1p
Жыл бұрын
dont cancel if you are getting exposure from the site then its good ya know
@Sareza.
3 ай бұрын
Most of the series in the top ranking isn't even that good, it's just popular because of all of the advertisement, it doesn't guarantee good quality
@thithombui8234
6 күн бұрын
Yeah, for me lotm is better than shadow slave, dont know why it got so much view
@jesucristobostero3287
2 ай бұрын
I'm working on my novel, building an incredible world and system for it, wanted to publish it on this page and discovered this by chance.. what a bummer
@nikro144
Жыл бұрын
0:37 I want to correct myself and say that I didn't take story comments into account. That would around double the hosting price, which still isn't a lot for a company with millions of users. Also I forgot to mention they most definitely cover all expenses with just the ad revenue, so everything else goes straight into their pocket. 1:35 Here, I should also say that you can enjoy your book being advertised only if you are within top few of the most earning authors. There are usually some competitions to decide that.
@SaSo-mk6yh
Жыл бұрын
Web novel is popular because big chinese company supports it and since the name itself is the brand that lets it appear in curious readers search results. It is also most pirated site which can be bad sure but also allows for novels to be advertised elsewhere so could work in authors favour. Platform itself makes it easy for new novels to pick up views with heavy advertising and stuff but yeah contract conditions are harsh and would really need to dedicate good portion of time to keep up.
@potatoisgoodnotacherry
5 ай бұрын
I use royalroad now for writing my book. I'm hoping to start up a patron while being very consistent.
@amall8526
3 ай бұрын
What's your book
@White_Crystal_Snow
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, royal road are good. I write there myself, already have 3 novel only post Sunday between 3-4pm
@vcb2553
9 ай бұрын
webnovel has paying customers a lot of them, so for an author its the most feasible choice considering the alternatives. their contracts are absolute shit anyway you look at it .
@visalserei
2 ай бұрын
I was offered an exclusive contract but I rejected it for months now, it is free to read but I am looking for a way to earn money as well. By the way, you can check out my novel. It is called "The Lone Star's Epilogue."
@user-tq9sg6lv6q
8 ай бұрын
The worst part about Webnovel is their shady affliation and strange silence sometimes but what can you do. Nevertheless there are some novels on RoyalRoad that have succeeded that have their fans who are willing to pay for it. And likewise for Webnovel. For example RoyalRoad has The Stormlight Archive and Mother of Learning. Likewise Webnovel has My House of Horrors and Lord of the Mysteries. For authors who have hundreds of thousands of readers they'd already be satisfied with the cut their getting. It might be small but at least they'll survive with it.
@niveshmahajan
3 ай бұрын
stormlight archive isn't a royalroad book tho? it's a mainstream novel.
@buddha6659
3 ай бұрын
Stormlight archive is by Brandon Sanderson bro. He's mainstream. He even finished the wheel of time series.
@Nispedana
Жыл бұрын
If you're curious, some contracted writers with accounting degrees calculated and the share is approx 28% This is MUCH higher than other webplatforms. WN actually has one of the highest net shares lol As a WN author, I don't mind this because the breadth of reach (hundreds of thousands) it gets my story is absolutely worth it. Not everyone believes they'll make it big lol, some of us are satisfied with what WN offers. It's too out there to call it 'evil'. 😅
@Thedarkbunnyrabbit
11 ай бұрын
People don't understand that tradpubs will give their BEST authors an 8% revenue share. Maybe 16% if you're someone like King who is guaranteed to make enormous amounts. It's hard to grasp just how badly writers get screwed.
@Nispedana
11 ай бұрын
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit Yeah. Webnovel at 28% is, like, the highest already. From what I've been hearing from other authors, most others like goodnovel etc really give 8%, some even less. But yeah if you want money and not the hassle or the investment, Webnovel is a pretty decent way to go about it imo
@ChairyCrasher
8 ай бұрын
I would be fine with it, if i can use my desktop to read it, instead of being forced to use the app. I wish there was an audio robotic voice to listen.
@daisygurl6747
4 ай бұрын
Yea I turned them down. If you read contract carefully they want dibs on future idea. They can also suddenly take the book you’re writing away and assign to another writer
@Lee_sooyeon123
Жыл бұрын
I already been using this Webnovel app in 2020 and this is my favorite app in life for free reading and i decided to be a webnovel writer with no contact editor
@nikro144
Жыл бұрын
You don't even get to read for free on webnovel. Only for the first chapters
@Lee_sooyeon123
Жыл бұрын
@@nikro144 well the chapter are payment but I choose to read fanfiction and free pirated webnovels chapters in other websites that why
@peanutbutter4980
10 ай бұрын
@@nikro144 If you search enough you find them
@Lee_sooyeon123
7 ай бұрын
@@nikro144 I already read with fanfiction and pirating chapters in other website for reading
@Leo-bd9ms
5 ай бұрын
Youre a spy sent from webnovel
@jstout333
6 ай бұрын
I only used webnovel because I got hooked on some of the stories and then got hooked on some other stories. Before I even could understand how much I was spending, over $1000 was gone. Hence why I couldn't just stop using the app, I had to firmly uninstall it.
@nikro144
6 ай бұрын
Wow that's unfortunate... Though I can't figure out how people get hooked in webnovel stories cuz they're kinda average for the most part
@brianbukenya7632
4 ай бұрын
Don't say that@@nikro144.The peaks of webnovel storys can be truly high.
@Neamio
21 күн бұрын
@@nikro144 lotm is peak fiction bro also u underestimate how addicting mid can be aswell
@prathameshrana2099
11 ай бұрын
So which platform will pay good and have large audience where i will get recognised and money
@ParasAgarwal-cx8tl
3 ай бұрын
Wattpad or royal road
@prathameshrana2099
3 ай бұрын
@@ParasAgarwal-cx8tl royal road pays well?
@scribblesandnotes493
8 ай бұрын
The fifty percent comes in with in there locked exclusive contract where you give them rights to use your ip in any way they want
@mikerousi443
2 ай бұрын
When they ask the questio if im satisfied with the site i choose no then they hit me with the message "Mind telling us watch up?"and i ingore i never read novel from webnovel i only check ratings and find them but even the ratings are not accurate some should have 3.0 rather than 4.5.
@Blackfridaystation
Ай бұрын
Wht is your web novel
@raquelalejandrapatinoojeda8334
7 ай бұрын
This has nothing to do with the topic of the video, but... 2:01 BRUH WHAT IS THORNS FROM ARKNIGHTS DOING THERE? (The "Transmigated into the..." cover)
@Player-rv8ph
4 ай бұрын
Many web novels author are bad at drawing, so they often take art from google image list if they can't or don't want to hire artist to make cover. Anyway, Thornification! (meme) 😮
@Thedarkbunnyrabbit
11 ай бұрын
50% revenue is bad by the standards of game and video publishing, but it's incredible by the standards of publishing. Only really Amazon and other similar sites like WN can compete with that. Traditional publishers take between 90%-96% of the revenue of your book. Although trad pubs will publish your book for 'free' while WN won't, do you think that's worth 90% of your revenue?
@alangrimlord892
11 ай бұрын
i wanna get a contract but i don't know if I even should I feel like they will just take my credit card information and leave
@nikro144
11 ай бұрын
At least with traditional publishing there are actual costs, and this site I could pretty much host on my home pc. Also, I understand they needed developers and all that but it's really nothing compared to what they earn.
@Thedarkbunnyrabbit
11 ай бұрын
@@nikro144 The traditional publishers have no excuse to take 90+% of your profits, that's not overhead for them, it's just always been the standard to screw over authors. I mean, sure, compared to YT and Steam, WN's offer is low, but authors don't get to publish their books with YT and Steam - those aren't options. For what authors get, WN is one of the best offers. (KDP gives you 70% but it's wholly self-published. No editor, no promotion, no connections, nothing)
@Capybara_Media
9 ай бұрын
@@nikro144 do u know the other sites who take like 75% of your income they can't be called evil lol
@vcb2553
9 ай бұрын
the fuck are you talking about? its 10 to 15%
@s0wwy345
2 ай бұрын
What about the Sneak preview? Shouldnt the authors make a lot more money here of super fans?
@nikro144
2 ай бұрын
The problem is the cut that webnovel takes which is huge. 50% is simply too big for what they give in return which is basically nothing. Yes, you can make money on web novel, maybe even a lot if you're in top 20 authors. But as a user I'd expect most of the money I give to go to the author, not some Chinese company.
@pastamethis
Ай бұрын
As a reader, one thing I did like about Web Novel above other reading platforms was the ability to comment on a particular paragraph. Whether to laugh/rage/complain. I did have a look at their contract business and tbh it did put me off a bit too
@nikro144
29 күн бұрын
Yeah that commenting on the paragraph feature is great, I don't think any other website/app has this. On some other websites people cite whatever they're referring to. It's not as good though :(
@sebastianmatamoros6251
17 күн бұрын
@@nikro144 Do you think wednovel can be hacked?
@AnimeIsCrap
Ай бұрын
It's more than 50% actually. They only pay about 28% lol. I kinda hate it as well.
@shehnaaz5647
27 күн бұрын
Please,Can you share some novel apps which available for offline reading & romance except wattapad, light novel, all novels etc...
@UngaBunga-zo7gu
Жыл бұрын
I think the only reason to use webnovel is to get the exposure 😔
@nikro144
Жыл бұрын
You don't actually get a lot of exposure from them though, because they fake the view count on your story. in reality it's about 5-10 times smaller than it looks
@jochnes8832
10 ай бұрын
@@nikro144 How would you know that? And how exactly do they count views? I'm curious
@konza02
8 ай бұрын
@@jochnes8832you can try it yourself, it scales in proportion with the amount of views, go on a story and just keep refreshing the page while counting how many times you did it, and you'll see the view counters being updated anywhere from around 10 to as high as 100 or 1000 times the actual clicks
@venture1701
5 ай бұрын
@@jochnes8832I tested it in my alt acc so yesterday my first book only got 22 views but when I use my alt account to view it, it instantly got to 30 and then I refreshed it, it turned into 40+ everytime I refreshed it it increased. So basically when a reader views your book but didn't read it the views increases and it's alot. I hope they add Reads per chapter in webnovel
@Toji.natureboy
3 ай бұрын
@@nikro144 how do you know that
@tass_4545
3 ай бұрын
Any website you would like to refer for full time writers?
@nikro144
3 ай бұрын
I'd personally use all the sites I could find. Mostly the ones mentioned in the video
@tass_4545
3 ай бұрын
@@nikro144 Ah I see thanks for replying
@ZikkyCent
Ай бұрын
@@nikro144 I couldn't clearly make out their names based on your words in the video. Can you please write them downM
@nikro144
26 күн бұрын
@@ZikkyCent royalroad, scribblehub are the most popular ones
@piyush-jh8gw
7 ай бұрын
Um whats the replacement for webnovel?
@nikro144
7 ай бұрын
Royalroad is better imo
@piyush-jh8gw
7 ай бұрын
Does it have shadow slave?
@nikro144
7 ай бұрын
If it's webnovel exclusive then probably no
@piyush-jh8gw
7 ай бұрын
I already tried it doesn't have taking mafia to another world or the golem mage it doesn't suit my taste anyways thanks
@kuntilanakimoet
6 ай бұрын
Do you have any recommendations other than that site?
@nikro144
6 ай бұрын
Royal road
@White_Crystal_Snow
3 ай бұрын
Yup, royal road good
@MrAlexandera7
15 күн бұрын
I have been a web novel author for over four years and have helped dozens of authors create good content and generate income. I don’t understand your argument. As a reader, you pay only if you enjoy the content; Webnovel doesn’t force you to do so. Similarly, as authors, we are never forced to sign a contract with them. In fact, the community is very open and supportive. If you truly care about authors, your comments are doing more harm than good. Please don’t argue about how unfair our contracts are or try to lure readers away under the guise of helping us.
@nikro144
15 күн бұрын
Please watch the video before commenting. You haven't even mentioned any of the arguments I've brought up, like stories costing hundreds of dollars, 50% cut on income, you not owning the story you wrote after signing the contract and so on. And yes, I wish less people used webnovel because there are much better alternatives (eg. Scribblehub, royalroad) where you still own the story you wrote, and as a reader you don't have to pay a couple hundred dollars just to read a story. And yeah, you don't have to pay for the story but then you can't read it. You don't have to sign the contract either but then your story won't get featured and you'll get maybe a hundred views at most, while you could get way more on the other sites. I've been there myself and got way more support from people on other websites. As for webnovel, it was basically zero support. So I still think I'm actually helping people :)
@MrAlexandera7
15 күн бұрын
@@nikro144 I I have watched your video and tried both platforms you suggested, and in my opinion, Webnovel is still much better in comparison. Both have different business models: For me, the two are more like street markets, while Webnovel is like a mall-both are good in their own way. Webnovel has a much larger reader base and offers more features, which is why it comes with contracts and a higher share of income.
@OtaKomico
4 ай бұрын
Gracias amigo, thanks
@LigerSuperstar
Ай бұрын
The platform is horrible, I couldn't last a month using it.
@milestrombley1466
4 ай бұрын
Like webtoon, they are vampires.
@Nispedana
Жыл бұрын
Hi, WN author here~ Since you're wondering why people keep using the app, it's because WN pays well overall lol. The breadth is also wide and the exposure is great. Of course, most of the time, your story has to be marketable to do well. They have a BUSINESS and they have no obligation to cater to our ideals. Like I said, think of it as a deal. They naturally choose and promote books that make them money. In turn, you use their clout to get your book to a wider audience and earn from it. So choose your platform well because some genres and tropes do better in other platforms
@phageofficial404
11 ай бұрын
How much do you earn for you to make such a bold claim? Not hating since it has some good books there as well
@Nispedana
11 ай бұрын
@@phageofficial404 I'm not making as much as the ML, but it's been two months since I've gone premium and earned over 2k USD (earned 400usd on first month, then earned 1900+ on second, excluding tax and bank charges) Note: This is already the higher end though for FLs. I heard ML earn much higher lol If I were to estimate (just MY estimate!), the standard FL writers that had built a fanbase (i.e. updated daily for a few months) should earn at least 400-600usd a month even if they no longer update daily (must still update a few times a week tho) For MLs... I hear the Top 100 earn at least 1k USD a month, and Top 50 and top 25s earn MUCH higher than they do Again, these are just my estimates based on what I hear from other authors lol. It's different person to person.
@maroindefinitlyhuman6857
10 ай бұрын
@@phageofficial404don't get your hopes up. By paying well he means paying well by third world standards.
@Capybara_Media
9 ай бұрын
u are everywhere nispedana lmao
@Capybara_Media
9 ай бұрын
@@maroindefinitlyhuman6857 if you are a t25 author u can get by living off even in first world country
@wendynieves2184
8 ай бұрын
I wrote a book and now I don't know how to delete it because I need to change many things and now it won't let me help please.
@nikro144
8 ай бұрын
Its impossible to delete a book on webnovel, but you can unpublish your chapters
@nikro144
6 ай бұрын
@DeraDamsel and how did you do that?
@nikro144
6 ай бұрын
@DeraDamsel i see now there is an option to delete the book when you go to book info. Pretty sure there wasn't such option there back when this video was being made because I looked for t an couldn't find it anywhere. There were some updates to the app recently, perhaps they added the option
@beautifullzmile
3 ай бұрын
At one time, there really was an option to delete books but it's been removed
@File_Archive
20 күн бұрын
How about Wuxia World?
@nikro144
20 күн бұрын
Heard about it but never actually tried so Idk to be honest
@luckyshadow5798
26 күн бұрын
Can i get help to find a FREE site to read system : start evolution from python
@autumnwinter-ix4dh
Ай бұрын
Holy crap thats criminal and scummy
@ashishkashyap8249
Жыл бұрын
How to earn money on web novel please explain 🤔?
@Capybara_Media
9 ай бұрын
u get a contract on ur book and get high exposure with it
@ronigaming2130
6 ай бұрын
Hey man do you know where i can get the mod version of webnovel
@MrLimeGamingContentAndFreeGFX
6 ай бұрын
Did you find out?
@piyush-jh8gw
7 ай бұрын
Well I don't spend money 😂
@nikro144
7 ай бұрын
The problem is that if you don't spend money u can't read more than like 30 first chapters
@piyush-jh8gw
7 ай бұрын
I know that's why I use several apps to read use daily pass and read atleast 5 locked ch a day
@ihab1635
4 ай бұрын
@@piyush-jh8gwMay I inquire?
@theapproachingstorm2475
2 ай бұрын
@@nikro144 bro I only collect fast then use it to read many chapters for free😂
@levonek65
8 ай бұрын
I am using mod apk
@nikro144
8 ай бұрын
That's cool. Do you have unlimited coins?
@ihab1635
4 ай бұрын
Really??
@animeuploader4992
3 ай бұрын
Please share I need it
@cjwilliamson4260
4 ай бұрын
Am a reader an wed novel is ezr then most novel sits
@nikro144
4 ай бұрын
Yez u defnetely smok to much wed
@mamabudgieclipper2735
11 ай бұрын
I use webnovel because I'm not trying to make income from my book
@lovely56362
6 ай бұрын
Just shutup after earning alot of money from it you want to discourage others
@nikro144
6 ай бұрын
Dude I haven't made a cent
@madhukarg8052
5 ай бұрын
Solo leveling
@nikro144
5 ай бұрын
...is bad
@dylanhusand3134
6 ай бұрын
Contract of wn is not bad, ofc if the authors has many times to writing their story! Easy to get promotion by the editors and will increase your income.
@nikro144
6 ай бұрын
It is bad though. I recommend checking the article i linked in the description.
@markangeloserapin9041
11 ай бұрын
Dude are you drunk?
@titan8084
Жыл бұрын
My G, 50% is literally industry standard. Amazon takes about the same cut, and the same goes for twitch. Heck, I think they even upped it to 70% now. Plus, why would people read in WN? Well, RR is for western audience and Scribblehub? That’s for mainly horny teens. Not that Webnovel is better, but it at least has some good stories unlike scribblehub which is a mess.
@SaSo-mk6yh
Жыл бұрын
The eroge stories can be found anywhere though but yeah I agree 😂
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