why on earth do they still implement PVE set bonuses to pvp? We all know both enviroments should be seperated. Let pvp vote for pvp set bonuses and the same for pve.
@13samfootball
2 ай бұрын
My guess is laziness?
@t.ydunston2251
2 ай бұрын
@@13samfootballlaziness? You sure it’s not so you don’t have to farm different sets? So people can’t complain about Farming ?
@thatherton
2 ай бұрын
Exactly. It’s so dumb.
@lh9072
2 ай бұрын
I agree. High key still time to do this… Some classes are getting destroyed by these poor set designs.
@MartialArtzz
2 ай бұрын
That would require effort. They don't do dat anymore. Too many corpowhore apologists creating a culture where that's acceptable.
@GrzyMckneezy
2 ай бұрын
Its great, every arena lobby will be DH Arms Ret WW and double fist weaver balance finally acheived
@Steevvee
2 ай бұрын
every lobby is just dh, arms and ww anyway with a bit of lock.
@clinkinblah9107
2 ай бұрын
Wow is tunneler game. It will never make range players rewarding
@Gerritson
2 ай бұрын
Its a talent now linked to VT I think @@jayfedder1578
@jasonsnow6208
2 ай бұрын
thank god we play druids boissssss time to get boomy its feathers hahhaahaa
@jeffbarbary5616
2 ай бұрын
Plus lock ele and occasional arcane mage. Plus hunters.
@Mrmemphisbones
2 ай бұрын
This Voting thing they did, was a pure disaster from a Pvp perspective. Most specs got the worst set bonus among all 3 seasons. Gz blizz...
@TheRobochicken5494
2 ай бұрын
blame the players
@briangiannattasio61
2 ай бұрын
almost like if having pve and pvp separate set bonuses would be better
@13samfootball
2 ай бұрын
@@TheRobochicken5494nah they took a lazy approach to this, total L. Like yourself
@semi6544
2 ай бұрын
For Frost DK, they should just make chill streak bouncing off the player a part of the talent. It just makes too much sense.
@B-...
Ай бұрын
Nerf chillstreak you say?
@semi6544
Ай бұрын
@@B-... No. The S3 tier set allowed Chill streak to also bounce off of the player so it could still do damage in Single Target. Without the tier set, chill streak won't have anything to bounce off of in Single Target so it becomes a dead talent outside of AoE. I'm saying it should always be able to bounce off of the player.
@artcarrasco9
Ай бұрын
Great to hear about Blood DK, currently leveling one.
@zanejackson8532
Ай бұрын
@supatease, do you feel the set changes will affect the stat meta? IE maybe boomies emphasize the burst and got a little more split haste/mastery OR do you feel its still haste> all
@Thorminator87
2 ай бұрын
why won't they just let us choose between them all in-game instead?
@zachmccormick4418
2 ай бұрын
@supatease are pvp elite sets going to be the same color ways too? Have they said anything on colors yet?
@zdlol3569
2 ай бұрын
I think it would be good if we could just choose what set bonus we wanted to use from season 1,2 3 leave it more open to try and play against different bonuses
@effortlessGFX
2 ай бұрын
That’s actually a great idea. Could play with 2, 2 sets if your class benefited from it. Would be so interesting.
@VallentinProductions
2 ай бұрын
The amount of balancing alone required for this would make it impossible
@tomselby24
Ай бұрын
they shoulda just let you pick between any of the 3 or like constantly be able 2 swap to any of them?
@bmschlossberg
2 ай бұрын
“Chains of ice and running away” is really good To be fair. Most dks just facetank til they dead tho
@goodkid91gunnarsson58
2 ай бұрын
supa great video, but you are also looking at out dated version of these tier sets some of them have been changed!
@igorhanzek4987
2 ай бұрын
God damnt you're intro so awesome every time. I just love it!
@mikegibson7274
Ай бұрын
very helpful thank you bro
@itsbalang1659
2 ай бұрын
Hi Supatease can you link the vote thing so I can choose Vote worst in slot for Melee's and Best in slot for casters please?
@eugenesternin6039
2 ай бұрын
Right, when I wanted to try destro lock...thank you blizz
@iBussTooQuick
Ай бұрын
Destro is going to slap my dude. Lock scales so well, by the time you have your 4set, that extra Chaos Bolt damage is going to be gnarly.
@keats27
2 ай бұрын
In Season 3, they changed so often, it's hard to put any stock in what's going to happen. And they were changing without telling us at times--disc in particular went from top tier to trash pretty fast.
@chadlad5646
2 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t the classes that use mastery as their scaling stat also perform the best as mastery doesn’t really have a cap? I can imagine classes that just stack crit don’t perform very well since it caps at 40% ?
@MrJeremydb91
2 ай бұрын
This should have been a tier list!
@bigbobam8857
Ай бұрын
So, just watched a Critcake video that was uploaded 2 days after this one and Arms isn't getting Season 3's set bonus, were getting Season 1's set bonus. They apparently kept voting open and EU voters pushed season 1 over season 3. So no extra sudden death execute, thunderclap's. Just a 15% damage and crit chance to MS (likely 8% in pvp with 50% pvp modifier) 2 set, and a 4 set of when MS crits, your damage and crit chance is increased by 8% for 6 secs (again, probably just 4% due to 50% pvp modifier)
@edwardhatfield5360
Ай бұрын
Since Ret S4 tier and probably all hero talent DoTs are likely to be dispellable, ill be on my Hunter or DH if you need me.
@MI-wf1lw
2 ай бұрын
Why you can´t just buy which tier set bonuses you wan´t from vendor..
@adielraja6078
2 ай бұрын
rip holy paladin
@piggdsbest333
27 күн бұрын
I'm 490 ilvl MS warrior and my damage was just tripled by a frost mage geared in greens with 466 ilvl. Balance is so bad now some class do so much damage like MM Hunters, mage, afflic lock, spriest, Evokers, ret paladin, DH. Always the same classes.
@maciejbrodecki9667
2 ай бұрын
Shadow is not going to feel weaker. With that set bonus it was one of the best specs season 2. It won't have to pick certain talents to make this seasons set work so it will have a lot more pressure.
@YessaGG
Ай бұрын
thanks
@TheNaqoyqatZ
2 ай бұрын
They should let you choose which one you want to use so it doesn't adversely affect PvP.
@keats27
2 ай бұрын
chains of ice, running away = no self healing.
@vladimirkovalcik7504
2 ай бұрын
simple solution, don't even bother playing it because getting duelist next season will be like getting r1 in SL s1
@jeffbarbary5616
2 ай бұрын
For real.
@Americanheld
2 ай бұрын
All most people care about is the mog
@GaminWarlord
2 ай бұрын
@@Americanheld And its the same mog as this season, zzzz I sleep
@QiaoHenLi
2 ай бұрын
What? Pretty sure on the PTR arms warrior is season 1 and fury is season 2
@shugguls
2 ай бұрын
Not sure what ur looking at was updated , arms is getting season 1 set, it’s already seen in game.
@briangiannattasio61
2 ай бұрын
placeholder ?
@shugguls
2 ай бұрын
Nope was confirmed and buffed in patch notes
@briangiannattasio61
2 ай бұрын
@@shugguls Dam boring X ability increased by Y%
@Gornall40k
2 ай бұрын
Yeah - he got my hopes up!
@fardrives
Ай бұрын
Enhancement not receiving Season 2 set bonus is criminal!
@BeastMastery
2 ай бұрын
WoW balance: The classes in the top arn't 5% better. They are 75% better..... Why? Why Blizzard? Why?
@Supatease
2 ай бұрын
Seeing comments that the warrior set bonus might be incorrect if it is season 1 insteads that a RIP arms warriors.
@rabee53
2 ай бұрын
It feels fine I still have my season 1 set. I equipped it and did some battleground blitz since your gear scales up ran the whole mortal strike season 1 build and was seeing 300k mortal strike crits I think it will be fine.
@turchiaro
2 ай бұрын
Can you and ven do some more mmr/inflation videos. I feel you guys have a huge impact and whenever you guys start to make videos and what not it gains a lot of traction.
@jhonmarston2814
2 ай бұрын
I dont worry about rogue
@videofabriken
2 ай бұрын
So why is pve and pvp have the same setbonus
@megaplymega6678
2 ай бұрын
Sigh main shadow and destro guess I’m done until next expac
@Binionsoldboy
2 ай бұрын
my poor resto shammy 😢
@zensei7685
Ай бұрын
Death Knight’s have it rough rn
@Kurnhelios
Ай бұрын
Yeah, see you guys next xpac lmao
@cbp117
Ай бұрын
How mutch are we Shaman going to suffer for Thralls misstakes 😅
@fok8810
2 ай бұрын
wow devs have given up
@Gornall40k
2 ай бұрын
I thought Arms Warriors are getting the S1 set bonus - NOT the nice S3 bonus
@Cloax
2 ай бұрын
wooo Spriest is gonna be poo YET AGAIN
@annielittlee9811
2 ай бұрын
Really sad about the holy paladin changes, enjoyed the S3 set a lot, but destro is straight up wtf, they just wanted to nerf themselves? xd (no matter the PvP/PvE)
@anannoyedpanda
Ай бұрын
Wait im confused. On here it says fury is getting sesson 3 but on crits video it showed eu made season 2 win. Was there vote manipulation that was fixed or what?
@eliotness107
2 ай бұрын
Resto shamans OMEGALUL
@viewtifullyvon6465
2 ай бұрын
PvErs sabotaged us. 😞 this is by far the worst tier set possible lol
@MrZeuz666
2 ай бұрын
I really feel strongly that you’re missing out on changes that will maybe be bigger for S4. At least for some specs. Specifically how the specs scale with stats. Usually some specs scale up insanely high in consistent damage while other builds might become viable due to hitting a higher threshold, in crit for example. But for some specs sure, the sets are yikes or nirvana.
@colemays7766
Ай бұрын
Cracks me up that Blizz PvP devs and the community think it's acceptable for DK to have to Chains of Ice + run away when every other melee just brawls it out.
@jeffyb8841
Ай бұрын
i mean its one thing to nerf destro but to take all the fun out of it was a real kick in the nuts. They want us to blame the raiders but they knew wtf they were doing
@jasonsnow6208
2 ай бұрын
so blood dk druids andd markman hunters is what we should be playin got it
@edwardhatfield5360
Ай бұрын
Wouldnt mind some blood DKs on my team to grip the melee off my MM😅
@Kuskash
2 ай бұрын
Your list might be outdated @Supatease Arms is getting s1
@robertoalvarez2935
2 ай бұрын
Terrible set choice for ret
@themagician1376
2 ай бұрын
Nice to know that there is no reason to come back for season 4. Thank you and see you in the next one. 😉👌
@effortlessGFX
2 ай бұрын
One less 1600 gladiator player to deal with, nice.
@rabee53
2 ай бұрын
Idk where you are reading these results from but some of them are not correct. Arms is getting season 1 set back not season 3.
@Ashes22dust
2 ай бұрын
What absolute garbage for enahnce shaman, definitely quitting in s4 till war within comes out.. what are we even paying for at this stage.. Blizzard is just rinse repeating through all content to maximise profits and we're all falling for it.. a new season and not a single new pvp feature - fuck off
@lh9072
2 ай бұрын
The frost mage season three tier is so horribly designed. I can’t believe people actually voted for it. It literally forces you to play one talent, which goes against the point of talent trees to begin with. Notably, you have to spend a bunch of points to even get to glacial spike. Very disappointing.
@davidcisneros2810
2 ай бұрын
pve andys, I hate having to hardcast with my mage in arena
@a.a.6464
Ай бұрын
Nerfs inc
@13samfootball
2 ай бұрын
Letting the players choose n all was kind of cool, I see what they were doing. But it's straight up lazy and who would have known this was gonna be the outcome 😂😂 ggs blizz
@matthewmurphy1882
Ай бұрын
Glad I deleted all my old toons, and chose to main a Resto Shaman. Sadly seems like the weakest healing spec in the game
@Leftside08
2 ай бұрын
oh no! anyways.
@reptiliancow
Ай бұрын
I play enhance. Of course its going to suck
@ManOlantern12
2 ай бұрын
All of pvp sucks in retail.
@user-vh8gm8yh6q
2 ай бұрын
guess ill go another season with 2 set as disc, but bro.. this tier set system is just unfair and they knows it. do different pools and set for pvp and pve in case, if not, keep doing this no sense and getting backlash from community idk 😅
@xDroozyy
2 ай бұрын
so glad fury stayed the same. this season has been so fun. for UH and frost i hope to see some changes as far as tuning, but overall happy w/ all the picks for my classes.
@RhodesianSuperiority
2 ай бұрын
Nah blizz hates dk they will leave us C and F tier. Unholy was great at the beginning of the season and now we are literally the worst melee in the game even behind enhance and feral.
@FCBcubano
2 ай бұрын
fury are so weak..they die so fast
@jameskim1505
2 ай бұрын
Fury War is worst melee in s3.
@RhodesianSuperiority
2 ай бұрын
@@jameskim1505 so play arms? Its the best melee in the game. Lmao dk is miles behind in both our specs with no option to get better.
@jameskim1505
2 ай бұрын
@@RhodesianSuperiorityfury is best melee in the game? You spell Demon Hunter in a weird way
@chrisfaulkner3831
2 ай бұрын
I’m just hoping that the severe low participation coming in season 4 exposes the out of date reward structure when rank 1 cutoff sits around duelist range for most of the season. The mass of tears might finally force blizzards hand to actually implement some changes.
@randomstuff-td1jl
Ай бұрын
i hate what they did to holy pala ....blizzard so useless
@dzengiskhanwarbringer6125
2 ай бұрын
Bruh frost death knight is dogshid 5 expansions in a row
@TheRobochicken5494
2 ай бұрын
legion pruning ruined frost dks
@13samfootball
2 ай бұрын
Thats because it's a brain dead spec unholy is too, but def use your brain a flake more
@Kronosbattlemaps
2 ай бұрын
S4 will be the lowest of the low in participation. This goes for raiding, mplus and pvp. If there is no serious class balance I'm done for S4.
@Brutaloris
Ай бұрын
Buff dk!
@hvdiv17
2 ай бұрын
There is no need to play season 4 with how blizzard does retail you get all your wow pvp done in the first 2 seasons then come back for prepatch.
@OGEETOMO
2 ай бұрын
Disc has sucked for all 20 years only original healer spec to not win a BlizzCon. Only spec in the game with no stun or interrupt option and the worst mana in the game - also they heal like shit for 20 years. Since we kept set bonus probably going to uninstall. You know how much people are trying to bullshit you when they try to sell you disc as being good. But Venruki co-blizzard employee mage shill thinks its great so it must be...
@critical4306
2 ай бұрын
Venruki... lol washed up mage that plays double frost 1shot build the only thing he can do too climb the ladder 😅
@videofabriken
2 ай бұрын
Wdym mehhx has won multiple times as disc
@OGEETOMO
2 ай бұрын
@@videofabriken Played holy & never a BlizzCon.
@OGEETOMO
2 ай бұрын
@@videofabriken He won splits as holy not blizzcon as disc.
@videofabriken
2 ай бұрын
Awc and blizzcon is the same thing, just different name
@bam9562
Ай бұрын
Wait what why sid he just say we are keeping sudden death i thought ptr is the mortal season 1 ser
@johnboyer9176
2 ай бұрын
Playing SV in RSS has been absolutely painful this season. While I never liked the 4 set, at least we had better burst potential. Now that that is gone... S4 is going to be a wash. I have 0 hope for the season as is. DHs going 2-3 months with almost no changes just showed us how many they actually care about PvP. FW meta can diaf.
@Minerals333
2 ай бұрын
Yeah this seasons set was pretty cool giving you a decent burst window every other trap, the new set is boring and unhelpful
@ndi88
2 ай бұрын
Resto sham s1?? Who tf is voting like this??
@ryan3371
2 ай бұрын
This is what I never liked about WoW.... class power being tied to tier sets. Can't gear just be gear for the stats?? Weird how the community fought to get rid of borrowed power but were fine with just going back to tier sets?
@TheOGDrDaddy
2 ай бұрын
Tier sets have always been a thing since classic wow? Lol they are good if done right.
@TheRobochicken5494
2 ай бұрын
ryan are you stupid or smth
@ryan3371
2 ай бұрын
@@TheOGDrDaddy Thats why I generalized WoW as a whole?
@StrobeFireStudios
2 ай бұрын
The resto shaman one isnt even good for PvE players. It's so trash, its like they voted for it for a meme and blizzard took it seriously.
@laertischristodoulou898
2 ай бұрын
People who voted for fury set don’t play fury
@FCBcubano
2 ай бұрын
it sucks they cant just let every spec be decent..shadowlands you could play anything and do well in pvp.
@manthe3711
2 ай бұрын
I'm a Preservation Evoker, my class always sucks.
@Nothingnesslol
2 ай бұрын
prevokers are one of the best healer right now lol
@13samfootball
2 ай бұрын
Pres is top healer, just crt better bud
@13samfootball
2 ай бұрын
Pres is top healer, just get better bud
@manthe3711
2 ай бұрын
@@Nothingnesslol It's literally the only spec that Supa placed in the C tier in his latest update two weeks ago: kzitem.info/news/bejne/zKlok6mQg6iHo44
@ght405
2 ай бұрын
blizzard should of gone nah you're wrong from resto sham and destro lock
@prdgmshft9107
2 ай бұрын
Doot
@JddJJddJ123
2 ай бұрын
Bring back arena realms
@Mtgproxycanadamtgproxycanada
2 ай бұрын
DK is an absolute joke, worst class in the game right now and easiest to kill/kite. Clown show
@jeffbarbary5616
2 ай бұрын
Yeah as an unholy main they really gutted the crap out of the class and did nothing to fix it. We use to counter casters but now we can’t even do that.
@damien7933
2 ай бұрын
@@jeffbarbary5616 I feel your pain as an unholy main. Can't kill casters, melee chews us apart.
@bi0lizard1
Ай бұрын
Evoker sucks!
@saiyang358
2 ай бұрын
Second
@BadJuicy
2 ай бұрын
First
@verminosis1
2 ай бұрын
pvp the way the system is now is demotivating players to play. 2k + cr agaist rank 1 multy glads. is so unfair and boring. and keeps the ladder deflected but thanks for trying to hype wow.....
@t.ydunston2251
2 ай бұрын
I’m going to play regardless. Because I just enjoy PvP.
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