Do YOU think that new players should still be getting YSG in Rise of Kingdoms? 🤔🤔 Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE for more Rise of Kingdoms content! :)
@DarkLight34
8 ай бұрын
Yes
@jili8680
8 ай бұрын
Honestly I don’t think
@sharbandarrimau8448
8 ай бұрын
Nope. P2W people will only max YSG from daily Chest😊
@maranat045
8 ай бұрын
Yes and yes and yes. This is a commander you can absolutely pair with everything. You'll get to best value out of it. This will be in your 5 marches if you are not a mega whale that can not gather what he/she wants anytime. You can use YSG for thousands of days in your game and still get very good trades. He has the best AOE with ZL, he is a beast in altars for this as well as in the field. You might want to chain barbs in KvK ass well and there is no one better at this too. Even though you are a whale that can unlock and expertise everything in the game until the KD is old enough you have roughly 3 KvKs and this time is even enough for getting and maxing him. We maxed Henry and who used it more than 2 months? YSG is absolutely worth it no matter how old your acc or KD is
@LNA.3
8 ай бұрын
you have to max YSG, course he is the lnly one to max in the first 2-3 KvK. we have notice that a lot of player quite the game after 1-2 year, so it s very important to have fun while you play the game, and YSG is 100% one of the reason to stay longer to kvk 4 and after. dont have YSG means you suckkkkkk in the first 2-3 kvk!!!!
@MyMarius87
8 ай бұрын
This is the change they should do: When you enter Soc they give you 1 full commander reset. That way you can max your richard, ysg. alex or Saladin, play kvk1-3 then in Soc you reset get your legendarys back and invest in a Good Soc COmmander.
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
That what they should do maximize players satisfaction but honestly 100% sure lilith would NEVER do that. it gonna less revenue for them because people spending less That way.
@darkprime584
8 ай бұрын
The tricky part about that one is that you could invest CC with daily bundles for heads or reset you're highest gold key commander that you have the most commander heads invested -> then you get a full reset of gold heads. Now a compromise to this would be for them to count the number of universals used for each commander and you get the gold heads invested back. But that would only be useful for new accounts and alot of back end work for them
@realjohnlove
8 ай бұрын
We’ve been asking for it for years
@jyuviolegrace8678
8 ай бұрын
i wont lie bro this is the best feedback you could give to lilith its totally reasonable lilith should be albe to do this ngl someone get this message to lilith
@realjohnlove
8 ай бұрын
@@jyuviolegrace8678 People have been suggesting this for 3 years
@GabrielSaraGS
8 ай бұрын
soc killed the early-mid game imo. i think there should be another level for legendary commanders in soc and we should be able to spend our legendary commander sculptures in early-mid game
@OmniarchOfficial
8 ай бұрын
they def gotta do something thats for sure
@leanimafriend9522
8 ай бұрын
it would be nice but gold heads are hard enough to get no way in hell new rarity would be easier prob even harder
@publicservant4198
8 ай бұрын
An obvious way to fix the commander issues for new players is just to allow all commanders in game available at start of new kingdom. New kingdoms face only one another for first 3 kvk so I don’t see any unfair advantage to that. This way old commanders will be benched at concurrent rates in all kingdoms and new players can invest and have fun just like old players.
@realjohnlove
8 ай бұрын
Yep YSG only being unlockable & accessible for heads in KvK1 is a huge problem
@alirezaabbasibizzareadvent3169
8 ай бұрын
Better change the commander unlock for kvk3 to how it was before People shouldn't be able to use soc commanders in kvk3
@patrickmorgan869
8 ай бұрын
I'd say allow the current kvk2 commanders to be unlockable in kvk1
@realjohnlove
8 ай бұрын
@@patrickmorgan869 or just make YSG available on the wheel for every season
@hasibulhasan2064
8 ай бұрын
Yah and old players keep sucking ysg🤨??think both way!
@blacknwhitegray1641
8 ай бұрын
If lilith would just remove the skill damage reduction for every enemy hit make him like sun tzus skill were everyone takes the same amount of damage, he would be damn good
@rongray35
8 ай бұрын
You are absolutely right. Lilith needs to do something with Gold Key, Season 2 and early SOC commanders. Reduce the sculpture cost to say 450, 480 and 540 heads for each of those. Create a event to earn resets, offer a bundle for the event. Then have a redeem for leftover sculptures for gold heads, even a 4 to 1 or 5 to 1 ratio would be worthwhile. These early game commanders due have value in KVK for secondary or auxiliary skills.
@realjohnlove
8 ай бұрын
He needs to be put back into Gold Keys
@jyuviolegrace8678
8 ай бұрын
i still use ysg for barb chain and i still use him in murderballs with zughe they are great but only in balls like the ball fights in imperium kd or higher a seeds, also no matter how much ppl disregard him i will continue using ysg to the end of my playing
@OmniarchOfficial
8 ай бұрын
yeah that's fair!
@Natalious2001
8 ай бұрын
Nah ysg is still great and i don't regret investing on him. Even if his kit is simple his burst is great. BUT for new players. Better skip him. He will remain as a secondary commander for my zhuge
@john2g1
8 ай бұрын
You just summed up the entire video... You can't say "nah" and then proceed to agree with everything you just said nah too. That's the opposite of what the word nah means. Omniarch: I am a KZitem Rise of Kingdoms content creator. You: Nah, you're a person that plays Rise of Kingdoms, records gameplay, analyzes the game, and then posts your thoughts and footage on KZitem. Me: What?
@_MD_.
8 ай бұрын
To late, i almost expertised him, but i will use for chain bards, and good for sunset canyon too. So ysg not endgame commander, but i f2p so i dont care about that.
@ahlisugianto6360
8 ай бұрын
I just hope tht lilith make a choice when player enterd SOC, player can got 1 change for reset 1 cmnndr they already exprtised. Evn just make it 80% sculpture back i think its ok rather then just make old cmndr useless for the rest of game cuz lilith always make a newer cmnndr broken and broken
@fabio06578
8 ай бұрын
Yes cause YSG Still strong KVK 2 and 1 but at KVK 3 or higher hes not good :D
@OmniarchOfficial
8 ай бұрын
That's fair for sure!
@blacknwhitegray1641
8 ай бұрын
I love using him for barb chains 😅
@GrowmietheGreen
8 ай бұрын
Us older players were blessed with some serious longevity out of ysg. Never thought I'd see the day where we're telling newer players NOT to invest him 😭
@patrickmorgan869
8 ай бұрын
If you already have him he's worth having around while you slowly work on other commanders There is better but he holds his own to a degree@@OmniarchOfficial
@MarKisI9
8 ай бұрын
I use Hermann 5551 and he is so good. Aoe. Debuff. Stats, March speed for Zhuge. OP
@ghostshrimp7847
8 ай бұрын
I feel bad for one of my mate, he watched earlier youtube videos saying that ysg is a great investment for soc when he first started playing and now we're in kvk3 and he only got 100 golden heads with a max ysg 💀
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
I also at kvk 3 with like 600 gold head and expertise YSG, granted I am low spander that win kvk 1 and 2. But I feel your mate is just didn't grind enough.
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
Let's say your mate is complete f2p, so he only get about 800 gold head from kvk 1 to kvk 3?????. How many AoO and other great events he miss along that way. Even f2p can get 1000+ gold head if they didn't invest into any legendary commander.
@realjohnlove
8 ай бұрын
Yep thats the problem
@realjohnlove
8 ай бұрын
@@veeriumI did a F2P restart, did every single Ark, every event, even got to VIP 10. Only had about 600 universals by the time I got Season 3. Only way I would have had more is if I was in the top alliance for my kingdom but they had a stupid contribution system that was based on 5 days of fighting. So I missed out on 40 heads there. 800 heads is not realistic.
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
@@realjohnlovenot realistic for casual but hard-core f2p and low spender easily get more than 800 gh in 3 kvk. I am witness a lot of f2p expertise YSG kvk 1 or at the beginning of kvk 2. If you play smart vip 12 f2p kvk 2 is granted.
@RynoObey
8 ай бұрын
Cancelled!!! YSG will never die!!! Just kidding ;) Great Video as always bro, I do still think YSG is still solid for any lineup but definitely losing his touch as time goes on, but he is a killing machine no matter what!
@ashbringer_game
8 ай бұрын
The interesting point that you shouldn't invest to the best early game commander. So what is the alternative for 1st and 2nd KvK? It is stupid to say that oh guys, do not play the game for 365 days and after that you will find good commanders. And after the year you will find the same video for Zhuge Liang...
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
And archer Wheel come at the end of kvk 3. So essentially with YSG expertise. You still get almost 2 full kvk worth of chaining barbarian if you expertise him at the end of kvk 1 or beginning of kvk 2.
@realjohnlove
8 ай бұрын
Thats the function of the game and thats the problem. Lilith needs to be criticized for poor game design. YSG needs to be accessible on the wheel for all seasons instead of just a limited few weeks in KvK1. Thats the problem.
@nath-hh2ff
8 ай бұрын
I can't disagree with any of what you said. I have got tons of value out of YSG and Guan. Neither of these ar comanders that id put goodies into now.
@sharbandarrimau8448
8 ай бұрын
😅 begitulah jadi bila kita semakin tua
@soulstart89
8 ай бұрын
I agree Ysg is not relevant anymore. His in the same ball park as all pre Soc commanders. You use them for there aux skills. If I started playing now I would quit after a couple months.
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
Me looking at my YSG 1.5 m barbarian kill kvk 3. Nah i am good. YSG is paying for himself in long run. All those new player that didn't get YSG gonna punching air when they want chaining with multiple march later on.
@janihaavisto79
8 ай бұрын
I use my YSG as secondary inf in my current kvk Storm of Stratagems. Also Gan is there only for his silence these days. Guan starts to have too low active skill and 2nd skill is rubbish
@muqiwara2626
8 ай бұрын
I expertised ysg and i only use him for chaining barbs, disclaimer, i never chain barbs💀 too lazy
@triax7218
8 ай бұрын
So basically. New players shouldn't get any commanders maxed in the first 1 or 2 years...? 😂 It's pretty much impossible to start the game now a days... They really need to change museum to boost the active skill DMG as a 3rd effect from lv1 onward..
@mohamedafiq9305
8 ай бұрын
FIRST (im just invested in ysg 😭😭)
@OmniarchOfficial
8 ай бұрын
hahaha that's okay you can still use him :)
@zaiminnosi2905
8 ай бұрын
If you use two archer marches then make it Zhuge/Herman and Boudica/YSG. YSG is still very useful especially with his circular AOE, rage engine and 50% skill damage you can't go wrong with that + his museum relic is powerful too. Ignore people who suggest to invest on Ashur/Artemisia/Nebu/Henry those are MGE comms very expensive for F2P/low spenders.
@grasscuttinginpitts
7 ай бұрын
Nothing will change, whales are whales and that's it. TO change ANYTHING it screw the mid game process
@GroovyBaby1911
8 ай бұрын
ysg is only good for getting kp and tbh kingdoms only care about how much kp you have so without any doubt ysg isn't dead. Try migrating to another kingdom with low kp lol
@Ahoooooooo
8 ай бұрын
Everybody is always fighting for ysg . I am 1 of those who expertised alex 😢 ..... 690 sculptures down the drain ... Edit : and i only got to use it half of kvk 3 . After that he was benched
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
Well RIP. At least you can still use him as auxiliary skill tho.
@icycaputolan1086
8 ай бұрын
I think what we can do is, split kvk into three or four categories. Like kvk 1-3, 4-6 and SOC and you are only allowed to use prime commanders on SOC
@d0sxxgaming94
8 ай бұрын
I have main account and 22 city hall 25 war farm accounts for filling flags, am i a hardcore rok gamer? 👉🥺👈
@alanlianov
8 ай бұрын
I'd still get him if I started today. But wouldn't use universal heads, only daily deals and first wheels. Chaining alone was worth it for me and still is.
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
I don't know the exact value that YSG bring for my account on the last 2 kvk that I have him expertise. But I am pretty sure he is paying for his own cost with how much I am chaining barbarian.
@ibniriz9548
8 ай бұрын
Use ysg not because he is good but dont have another commander for 5 march..lot of player are f2p and low spend
@michaeltrinh4394
8 ай бұрын
I have been F2P since I started 5 years ago, and I don't even OWN YSG! 😂
@Madao-k9s
8 ай бұрын
Lilith could also get rid of his useless 3rd skill, make him a versatility tree commander and replace it for some stats there like march speed and just a bit of health and that would make him good again, but Lilith is too greedy imo to fix old commanders :'/ Anyways Lilith really should do something for the early game, I could invest in YSG to not get too bored but now its going to be even more boring for new players
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
Definitely agree with how boring 7-8 months of playing time for new player because I am recently at that point. Expertise YSG feel like my account have some progression and never feel bad about it.
@yarden480
8 ай бұрын
Ysg already die when zhuge liang come out.
@Angelitooo-il4pl
8 ай бұрын
Is it good as a garrison commander?
@samuvas1
8 ай бұрын
I believe you are right in say he needs a rework to be better, but man, the most part of the players cant have 5 marchs... YSG take that gap and help one more march for long time, and he pays off long term with chain barbs, I believe still works full him
@ابراهيمالشهري-ف5ب
8 ай бұрын
why you guys always maje content for whales or f2p , what about in between
@Alfa-od6nw
8 ай бұрын
The only solution is to make gold heads refund befor kvk 3
@rylix5279
8 ай бұрын
Scipio ysg might be better at openfield couse of herman
@danbernardes1726
8 ай бұрын
People can't just sit waiting to spend their gold heads all the way to kvk3. That's why people recommend him and Alex still, because people want to play kvk1 and 2
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
Alex definitely for spender only and YSG if you are active chaining barbarian. I am going for YSG expertise only and not regret it. He is super vanilla and flexible commander.
@realjohnlove
8 ай бұрын
KvK1 & KvK2 are already boring tho. A lot of kingdoms end their KvK1 & KvK2 early and just do truce & peace treaties anyway.
@Lazaven
8 ай бұрын
This video is late zhuge was clearly his replacement
@hyeonkang9203
5 ай бұрын
Lol so wait a whole year while everyone is getting ahead to invest? Nah
@collt3035
8 ай бұрын
Guys i have a 5 5 11 YSG is it still worth to expertise im on season 2 of kvk
@OmniarchOfficial
8 ай бұрын
Probably not, start saving for Season 3 when you get access to the best commanders! :)
@cmlcml415
8 ай бұрын
as an archer gang (with 4 archer marches), I still use him, but sadly to say not my top choice anymore 🥺
@OmniarchOfficial
8 ай бұрын
unfortunately true!
@tedtonz5734
8 ай бұрын
YSG died last year bruh.... why are you still cooking expired food?
@OmniarchOfficial
8 ай бұрын
No, YSG was retired to your 2nd archer march last year... NOW he's really expired lol
@Fury566
8 ай бұрын
Bruh i just unlocked ysg and got him 5115 as f2p and ur telling me this now..
@richardsybrandy1
8 ай бұрын
Kvk2….. awesome. Kvk 3, meh. SOC nope.
@filipeteixeira7949
8 ай бұрын
kvk1 Rich or Martel 5111 + ysg Ok kvk2 Rich or Martel 5111 + ysg = dead / Aethelflaed + ysg = dead kvk3 Rich or Martel 5111 + ysg = dead / Aethelflaed + ysg = dead kvk4 = bench
@darkprime584
8 ай бұрын
Maybe one way they could fix the new player experience would be that when you get to soc, they reset all legendary commanders. Where they keep track on the back end how many commander sculptures you got for each character and how many gold head you have gotten in the game. Then after KVK3 - you just reset all legendary commanders. That way you can enjoy KVK123 however you want and you get a chance to fix mistakes. A little annoying to reinvest the old commander heads - but I think it would be worth it.
@realjohnlove
8 ай бұрын
This is too optimistic. They’d never do this
@jimibones178
8 ай бұрын
Would be a great way to do it. They won't though
@Veperlegend
8 ай бұрын
1850 days in, and we should get like a yearly commander reset. Just 1 a year would do. We old ones got Khan/Ysg/Ramses/Alex etc. I can't use any of them, because even relics sucks. Total waste! We should have option to reset, even 50% value given back in gh would be amazing, or like I said, yearly gift of resetting commander. But I kinda lost hope there.
@PsykhoPanda
8 ай бұрын
Never invested in YSG and Never ever to Plan to 😅
@pj11_dokz57
8 ай бұрын
old legendary commanders should be revamp in order to keep up to the new released and upcoming legendary commanders just saying,,,😅😅😅 LILITH should not be greedy i find some events not worth it and tavern gold keys should be reshuffle also... they need to..😂🤣
@stevehg89
8 ай бұрын
If I haven't expertise YSG during kvk1 and kvk2, my one march cavalry sucks with only Minamoto expertise. Even I have 4 legendary gears with 1 critical, I still can't fight anything without YSG expertise. I know they keep saying Baibars, CC or Aetheflead are good with it but trust me, they're trash compared to CM Sun Alex if you are competitive player and aiming for high kill points with Mina.
@Zervoylakos
8 ай бұрын
So you are telling me that new players are going to fight kvk 1 and kvk 2 with epic commanders?
@BlitZnGodzilla117
8 ай бұрын
If that's the case, time to go back and seal club😂😂
@OmniarchOfficial
8 ай бұрын
No, I’m saying they’re simply not going to fight unless they’re spenders. They’d be crazy to…
@kissmark5020
8 ай бұрын
My advice to any new player is to uninstall and never look back.
@OmniarchOfficial
8 ай бұрын
Nawww the game is fun!
@xiomaramena3811
8 ай бұрын
YSG is great but i dont like to use it. If youre not archer main you will only get AOE and skill damage boost teresa no debuff or Def, health just get him and save him for SOC
@ashtongaeta2581
8 ай бұрын
Ysg still really good at killing barbs .
@Manuel-oj5xc
4 ай бұрын
Used all my heads on impulse now living with the regrets at kvk 1 🤡
@OmniarchOfficial
4 ай бұрын
Don't worry you can still get great use for him with Hermann Prime in SoC!
@johncane2304
8 ай бұрын
this is the first I proposed before,many new commanders would oblirate the game causing f2p players to quit overtime...well no people listened to this
@rainmaker8451
8 ай бұрын
in garrison YSG is still strong today
@trininatsu9352
8 ай бұрын
I been playing for 5yrs and rok start feeling more difficult in obtaining stuff which will discouraged ur mental play time. You know wat i mean. A first time player who start rok will feel excited in meeting people an real time fighting but when u get further in depth. U will realize dat u have get everything to be strong in game, i mind completing in events cause i won 3 straight lohar arms training against p2w.
@cyberlord645
8 ай бұрын
He is not horible but he is dieing if they made soc be where the best comanders are he would still be a good invest right now he is ok but he is now a 2nd archer march minimum or a 3rd but no one uses 3 2 maximum normally a zhuge herman and and boudica ysg will work and do decently but it's a harder thing to do I dont use ysg as mine is 5111 by first soc I'm a infantry main really low spender so for me he isn't worth it
@jimibones178
8 ай бұрын
I wouldnt say dead. If you want to have any fun in k1 and 2, ysg is your guy. And you can still use him to round out another march until you are working on your 10th soc commander, which takes a long time anyway
@adelsonprado1492
8 ай бұрын
Estava no fim do kvk 1 e fiz YSG 5523, aí veio a atualização de lilith e parei de atualizar ele! Hoje estou em Kvk 4 e simplesmente ele é inútil! Pedi 300gh
@DarKingD70
8 ай бұрын
Yo lo tengo por que me salio en la ruleta y por que compre algunos cofres diarios sin embargo no lo uso aun que bueno aun estoy en kvk 2 no hay muchas opciones la verdad preferi ahorrar recursos para otro comandante en kvk3
@OmniarchOfficial
8 ай бұрын
agreed!
@Azd1r
8 ай бұрын
Instantly after 12s vid saying the same thing kek good timing. Give 3rd relic
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
and remember archer wheel for kvk 3 is so late in the kvk. So you essentially 3 kvk without circular AOE to help you get top honor. If you want to do it with Aethelflead, you just masochist😂.
@realjohnlove
8 ай бұрын
I got close to top 20 honor barb chaining with Aethel, Thutmose, Baibars, Kiera
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
@realjohnlove easy top 10 on last 2 kvk with YSG. I am also chaining with aethelflead but you have to be honest it's really painful to chain even with half circle AOE.
@realjohnlove
8 ай бұрын
@@veerium If you don’t know how to chain
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
Yeah bro sure, you are master of chaining 😂😂. @@realjohnlove
@realjohnlove
8 ай бұрын
@@veerium I am. I can chain 10-20 barbs on an Aethel/Richard 5111 without investing a single universal
@davidkoch4223
8 ай бұрын
Hey everyone. I have a question. I have boudicca 5555, zhuge 5511, henry 5511, artimisia 2111, hermann 1111 and ashur 1111. I have 700 gold heads to spend and i dont know in which one i should spend them. Should i make a second march for my account with maxing hermann or should i max zhuge and fight in kvk just with 1 march? Or should i ignore archers and max next cav commander? (i havent cav equipment) Thanks for an answer
@sxorpion617
8 ай бұрын
Brooo max Zhuge + Max Hermann is the best archer march right now :)
@sxorpion617
8 ай бұрын
You will be destroying a lot on the field!!! You counter Infantry!!!
@davidkoch4223
8 ай бұрын
@@sxorpion617 So you think first i should max zhuge and then i should work on hermann?
@sxorpion617
8 ай бұрын
@@davidkoch4223 yes bro that’s right max zhuge then work on ur hermann 5511 is good enough but max Hermann as secondary for zhuge is the best right now and for your 2nd march use Boudicca with Artmisia 💪
@realjohnlove
8 ай бұрын
Hermann, slowly work on Zhuge through the wheel. He’s ridiculously good even unmaxed
@sigismundrotale50
8 ай бұрын
YSG is one of the few commanders who have circle AoE. Not to mention he also have 50% skill damage for both commanders. Also YSG is literally the only option to invest before SoC. Players can't use only purple commanders and Etelflede for kvk 2. For sure YSG is much weaker compared to SoC commanders, but he can be used literally with anyone. So after you enter SoC you at least have YSG full and can combine him with Scipio/Nevsky/ZL.
@NerdFurie
8 ай бұрын
F2P - Mid spender should definitely not max YSG anymore. Do you know how quickly you enter kvk 3 and unlock the good commanders now ?
@john2g1
8 ай бұрын
You (OP) are missing the point of the video even though you're literally saying it. You mention the +50% skill damage and the circle AOE as being invaluable in KvK 1/2. However, you ignore the fact that you have to max the 4th skill (hard) and then expert the commander (690 sculptures) how to get his two biggest benefits. A 5551 Saladin/Aethelflaed costs *310 less* sculptures than YSG, and is still as effective as a YSG march in KvK 2. This is the point ^^^ The cost of YSG is too high to only run for 2 KvKs. BTW don't forget you will need to invest in an an additional unworthy commander to pair with YSG. When I expert all gold key commanders (except Ragnar) I'm going to go back to KvK 2. Despite having a 5551+ Saladin and expert Alex, there will still be an epic or two in my five march lineup.
@sigismundrotale50
8 ай бұрын
@@john2g1 I'm using YSG now in SoC and honestly he is fine, obviously not the meta, but just fine. Etel + YSG is very good pre soc, so you don't have to spend sculptures for other commanders.
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
@@sigismundrotale50I am just use sun tzu + YSG until kvk 2 and those pair trade fine. I am still expertise YSG even tho ZL already in the game because of his overall value for my account not just PVP performance alone. 7-8 months without investing into any legendary is rough.
@southeastasiandna7578
8 ай бұрын
Use him as secondary
@e.p.3900
8 ай бұрын
Ashurbanipal is an mge commander and usually the mge are already set for the whales to win. So low spenders and f2p have no chance to get him or Henry 😢
@nikolatomic6894
8 ай бұрын
I am halfway trough my kvk2 and my ysg is 5535, I have nearly enough ghs to max him. Do I do it or not?Im f2p
@Mila-gx1dg
8 ай бұрын
I will hear this out before I get mad at you😰 jk he isnt practical anymore to invest in but he is absolutely still useable. Him and Guan are gonna hurt to put on the shelf. *LOVE the idea of changing him into a leadership comm
@sloppypapi8886
8 ай бұрын
An easier solution might be a gold head refund when your account enters SoC for the first time
@MyMarius87
8 ай бұрын
I invested in herman, and now ill have boudica and ysg on the bench. this archer stuff is so weird . All my other marches are so much better so if i want a better 5 ball only archers need upgrading non stop
@Crazyplaysss
8 ай бұрын
Rok rip
@Ale-BK-Benoit
8 ай бұрын
Hi I started playing with my friends a month ago and I saw a bunch of Omni guides; right now I’m working on Richard I wheel as I heard many people say he is very good for f2p players, but I was planning to get YSG either since many videos pair them to chain barbs😂😂 How do u guys suggest to go on right now? I only did the first wheel of Richard
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
Do you super active and chain barbarian a lot? If yes get richard 5111 and expertise YSG. I am super low spender and close to T5 at kvk 3. YSG over huge value outside of PVP. Basically in the long run. YSG paying for himself.
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
You can subsidies the cost of expertise YSG by buying him daily or when there is gem rush or other spending event coming. Choose YSG. That way i am only use 400 gold head and the rest from daily and spanding event reward.
@Ale-BK-Benoit
8 ай бұрын
@@veerium Thats what I was thinking too, especially because no commander seems comparable to ysg till Soc commanders, not even Alex or Saladin (from what I’ve understood), yeah btw I play quite a bit, not a hardcore player at all, but since I understood that with ysg f2players can manage to make many rewards I was thinking it was worth the try anyway. Before this video👆🏻!! Lmao
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
@@Ale-BK-Benoitif you think you can expertise YSG at the end of kvk 1 or beginning of kvk 2. Just go for it. You get 2 kvk worth of chaining barbarian and it make chaining barbarian so much easier compare to aethelflead.
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
@@Ale-BK-Benoitif I am restart today. I am still expertise YSG again no matter this content creator slandering YSG name. YSG giving me so much value in my 7-8 months playing time. Period.
@sxorpion617
8 ай бұрын
Brooo I maxed him before my nevesky in my first SOC 😭😭🙏 and I was thinking should I go back to KVK 2 or stay in my current kingdom for KVK 5? My march right now is Mina max + YSG max on my field 😭😂
@sxorpion617
8 ай бұрын
Cos I was saving up for nevesky 😭 but then one day I watched your video and you said it’s good to invest in YSG then I just went all in on YSG… 😂😭🤣🤣🤣
@rainmaker8451
8 ай бұрын
yeah but originally he is good only for garrison.. ysg 3rd skill is useless in field
@vishnusaravanan3754
8 ай бұрын
Yes , i am f2p he was my first expertised commander but he is pretty good usable till now. I am using him with zhuge but if you asking me now i won't invest on him if i going to restart. Maybe when we get next museum buff if he get some good buffs like march speed he will get life in the game 😅
@sakyojapan8224
8 ай бұрын
They should really do something about expedition rewards and chests , maybe there ysg or any unused commander would have some interest (for my restart acc i skipped all s1 and s2 commanders )
@Boro1Legend
8 ай бұрын
I know he is but that didn’t stop me maxing him out and having some kvk1 &2 fun!
@quadriplegic2789
8 ай бұрын
They should have more kvks with early commanders before soc. Should be like chapters becauee investing in these commanders early is so much fun, but having to save for a full year before spending a gold head is so unbelievably unfun.
@Kiddish007
8 ай бұрын
Omni I need you to test (if possible) el cid/ashur against gorgo combinations. There's been some interesting reports with cid/ashur doing pretty well against gorgo/lie
@GameC3nt
8 ай бұрын
we need ysg skill rework with march speed and health 💪🏻
@johnlandrigan6578
8 ай бұрын
holding all of ur gold heads til SOC will leave u with a very bad lineup. Even once u get to SOC u still cant expertise ur new guy that u do get. Low gold key commanders and epics are going to get stomped in the early KVKs.
@realjohnlove
8 ай бұрын
I did a F2P restart, did every event, did every Ark. i ended up with about 600 universals by the end of KvK2. Going into Season 3 I have 650 Universals. By the time the first season 3 wheel comes I can instant max Nevsky
@_Didas_
8 ай бұрын
What about relics, released during different kvks ? 1st relic available kvk2, 2nd relic available kvk3 and a new relic for SoC.
@nathanielraynes4614
8 ай бұрын
Only real way to save early game is make season 2 soc but no crystal tech and only continental like kvk 1
@VaradoxFN
8 ай бұрын
But is 5511 still worth it for a low-mid spender?
@ardesia1974
8 ай бұрын
yes if you aren't a high spender YSG is a good investment because he is in gold key coommander and gives you a circular aoe , ( to have it you have to wait a nish commanders like theo and YSS or Zl after SOC ( 3 kvk ) bye
@realjohnlove
8 ай бұрын
YSG is not a gold key commander
@skntvarbirader
8 ай бұрын
I can make one cavalry commander, which one should I do?
@calming_cat
8 ай бұрын
5511 Zhuge Liang doesn't perform anywhere close to a max YSG. I tried using 5511 and 5551 Zhuge Liang when he first came out, it was not as good as YSG.
@realjohnlove
8 ай бұрын
Your archer research must suck because I chained almost 200 times racking in over 700-800 barb kills with Boudica/Zhuge in KvK
@calming_cat
8 ай бұрын
@@realjohnloveI'm talking about open field. About barb chain, people, myself included chaining barb with multiple marches these days.
@Zvoneee.
8 ай бұрын
In my opinion every player should max ysg as soon as possible, if your not working on your kvk3+ commanders, becuse everyone migrates even once and when you migrate to kvk2 kingdom in that kvk with your max ysg and I dont know mabye thomarius or someone you will have a massive advantage and get a lot of massive trades In my opinion
@realjohnlove
8 ай бұрын
Thats hard F2P. Thats the big point. I recently did a F2P restart. I ended up with about 600 universals by the time I got to Season 3. My YSG already had 80 sculptures from spinning wheel & card king. My options are to either max YSG or wait for the Season 3 wheel to instant max Nevsky Guess which one I’m going to choose
@yasith2426
8 ай бұрын
I have exp ysg but no archer march yet, i think ill put sculptures into hermann and use him and ysg until either the next archer or just start zhuge right after if zhuge is better.
@bigearl2040
8 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on swarming flags. Top pairs etc
@cyFlame
8 ай бұрын
i got ysg on 5552 rn and im almost done with kvk1
@GrowmietheGreen
8 ай бұрын
Bro, it isnt even a debate. Like, yeah, spenders do whatever. But f2p should NOT invest in ysg, when in just a few months, you can get a far more powerful commander with a huge circle aoe right off the bat. Had i known this then, ysg wouldnt have seen a single one of my universals 🤣🤣🤣 it breaks my heart, but rip ysg 😭
@sebastienmalherbe184
8 ай бұрын
Hi. Very very good analysis and vid For me easy fix. At the end of kvk 2 , ysg, Richard, alex shd be refundable in gh. Also gold commanders you offer to refunnd the universal. That way you can enjoy all early game like crazy, and switch gear when in soc. Perfect imo
@darkprime584
8 ай бұрын
The issue with that is the extra universals. Maybe one way would be that when you get to soc, they reset all legendary commanders, where they keep track on the back end how many commander sculptures you got for each character and how many gold head you have gotten in the game. Then after KVK3 - you just reset all legendary commanders. That way you can enjoy KVK123 however you want and you get a chance to fix mistakes.
@greencat1849
8 ай бұрын
I completely agree...about to start KVK2 and YSG already seems as a waste of heads Also for f2p players, it's extremely hard to expertise YSG before kvk2 starts, so I never really understood why it was said to invest in him for kvk2 in the first place
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
I am expertise YSG at the end of kvk 1 and use him to chain for 2 full kvk until Zhuge liang wheel come at the end of kvk 3. Granted I am super hard-core player that spend 5 hours gems farm and have 9 farms. For casual definitely not worth expertise YSG anymore.
@Obiwantuan
8 ай бұрын
Frankly, you need to make videos about SOC. Advising new players to do nothing for 250+ days is just plain silly. I am about to finish kvk1 right now and YSG has dominated. I see no reason for him not to perform well in kvk2.
@veerium
8 ай бұрын
Yeah, feel bad for only use epic for 7-8 months playing time. If you want to get good value for your account. If I am new player know that info. I am just gonna uninstall RoK immediately.
@OmniarchOfficial
8 ай бұрын
I didn’t say he would perform poorly in the early game, you’ve missed the point of the video entirely. There is currently no good “logical” progression a F2P player could reasonably make from day 1 up until SOC besides hoarding everything - which I said in my video is a bad thing that needs to be addressed.
@Obiwantuan
8 ай бұрын
@@OmniarchOfficial I am a new player 130 days in. The game now for a true new player is much different than it was for you. With all these jumper groups dominating a new kingdom. If you have the mindset of hoarding till kvk3, you will be forced to migrate out as they recruit people to replay kvk2. The logical path now for a new player in my opinion is to make one set of gold armor by kvk3/4. (infantry) Get martel 5511 and ysg expertise. When kvk3/4 rolls around you can move on to a nice infantry march. Don't even think about doing 2 marches for a long time. One good march so you can perform well enough they let you stick around.
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