35 years later and what he says- has come true. There has been a steady march towards a Fascist theocracy in the US ever since.
@mooganstooker2419
Жыл бұрын
While the media turns left...go figure.
@stevehammond9156
Жыл бұрын
The left in this country would be totally okay with a fascist country. Just look who is calling the shots now.
@leadoucet1432
Жыл бұрын
CNN just proved him right by taking a sharp turn to the right. Watching the USA turn into a fascist theocracy is not a pretty sight. It's quite ugly. Ugly Americans indeed.
@richsackett3423
Жыл бұрын
@@mooganstooker2419 CNN's current direction shits all over that idea. Back to the drawing board for you.
@randyqquaint8400
Жыл бұрын
@@mooganstooker2419 Outside of MSNBC, everyone is headed farther and farther right. In CNN's case, they're basically attempting to paint themselves as the "both sides"/Republican apologist network now.
@shannon6708
4 жыл бұрын
This man was so brilliant he predicted the future "I have this horrible fear that the United States could lend its way toward being a fascist theocracy, the cross converted into a symbol of fascism in the service of politics, this is bad"
@shannon6708
3 жыл бұрын
@@jimbobb3509 mo. actually is right on.
@shannon6708
3 жыл бұрын
@@jimbobb3509 you would.
@thomaskleinhans2384
3 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what Mr. Trump did!
@marcosleon2582
3 жыл бұрын
Não, um monte de merda democrata sim
@georgetirebiter4035
3 жыл бұрын
@@jimbobb3509 How so? There are roughly a dozen christian churches within a half mile radius of my home. My cable service has 12 channels devoted to christian broadcasting. Several states have violated the Constitution by requiring religious tests as a prerequisite for public office. Previously illegal discrimination on wholly non-religious matters are being permitted unabated. Mega church pastors fly in private jets costing hundreds of millions of dollars that could be put to better use. I could go on, but whenever someone truthfully points out the hypocrisy of christian so-called morality, they cry and whine about being attacked.
@tony3313
Жыл бұрын
"The Cross converted into a symbol of Fascism." How prophetic.
@matimus100
10 ай бұрын
Inverted they do as they please
@fleatactical7390
6 ай бұрын
Ironically, the Church is what fought for liberties in these past 3 years. And I say that as an atheist. The only fascism today is that of the leftist, globalist-backed Biden Regime. It holds the monopoly.
@user-fk2vr4uh8c
4 ай бұрын
fascism is actually the rainbow flag now
@dadaistaingegniere
3 ай бұрын
He's talking about the maskerade of religion to boost politics. A very christian do not "impose" Christianity to no one, he just call on it.
@waldemarsikorski4759
22 күн бұрын
@@user-fk2vr4uh8c Kevin, we're so happy you're out of prison finally.
@ceecarter9970
Жыл бұрын
100% correct. He experienced Reagan and knew what was coming.
@billtomson5791
Жыл бұрын
Frank rejected Our Lord and Savior Ronald Reagan, so God and the media had to "cancel" him.
@vonholland64
10 ай бұрын
Reagan wasn’t so bad. I had it made financially in his terms. Not like today at all.
@RandomNonsense1985
9 ай бұрын
@@vonholland64Reagan sucked. FDR, Truman, Kennedy, pre-Vietnam LBJ, and Carter were where it was at.
@justsomeguy6133
5 ай бұрын
Frank wasn’t a lefty, either, at least not as we think of it. He was probably more of a “classical liberal“ if anything.
@NickNicometi
4 ай бұрын
@@RandomNonsense1985 LBJ was an evil criminal, and Carter is now the 2nd worst POTUS, the worst now being Joe "The Criminal" Biden. You are woefully ignorant.
@luisrocha26
Жыл бұрын
Frank's always been interviewed by these extremely common-sensed journalists, and he always managed to shed a spotlight in the superficiality of their arguments without being rude. This guy sounds like he has lived through the 2020's and is telling the world what he has seen in his trip to the future. Frank's amazing
@TheKitchenerLeslie
Жыл бұрын
Except he was wrong about McCarthy and didn't realize the Religious Right is not actually religious. The churches were captured by LBJ by turning them into government-controlled 501c3 Charities. They then had to teach Zionism over Christianity. A couple generations have been brainwashed to love their Slave Masters.
@DAVYMAC
Жыл бұрын
The media is to the right? That is laughable! When it comes to politics and God Frank and his admirers are comically wrong. A well informed high-school kid would crush his lies in a debate.
@TheKitchenerLeslie
Жыл бұрын
@@DAVYMAC How old are you?
@TheKitchenerLeslie
Жыл бұрын
@@DAVYMAC Zappa was right at the time. If you were older, you would know. So, he wasn't lying, son. BTW, I just got back from a retreat... with my fellow Generals. This is an order: Drop and give me 100, numb nuts!
@TheKitchenerLeslie
Жыл бұрын
@@DAVYMAC You're a stolen valor liar or you're committing treason in Biden's Woke Military. Which is it?
@myyoutubeacct4880
Жыл бұрын
Zappa was a bloody genius. And the thing is that there were others warning about all of this as well. George Carlin springs to mind.
@Karen-yy3ll
Жыл бұрын
corporate theology & authoritative legal literature censorship. Remember the blue law.l
@stogiewulf4999
Жыл бұрын
I miss the pair for them every day we slide more and more into this bullshit swamp the GOP setup and the Dems seem happy to use to their ends.
@user-st6nt4ou6f
Жыл бұрын
Yes, true. We weren't paying attention. At least I wasn't, being in the midst of my younger life and career. I woke up during the Civil Rights movement, and that led me to focus on the political arena.
@sr2291
Жыл бұрын
He was Jewish and aware of his enemies.
@r3b3lvegan89
Жыл бұрын
Bill Hicks has been calling corporate executives suckers of satans cock since 89’ in Sane Man. Bill nuked the media and government
@davidav8orpflanz561
Жыл бұрын
"Never have the churches been the guardians of the liberties of the people" - John Adams!!!
@brandonmooney2767
Жыл бұрын
Source? I'm thinking you might have had in mind these words from James Madison's "Memorial and Remonstrance against Religious Assessments": "If Religion be not within the cognizance of Civil Government how can its legal establishment be necessary to Civil Government? What influence in fact have ecclesiastical establishments had on Civil Society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the Civil authority; in many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny: in no instance have they been seen the guardians of the liberties of the people." Madison also wrote (same source), "During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution." Here is an Adams quotation, from his letter to Jedidiah Morse, 5 January 1816: "To talk or think of liberty, or Privileges, under a military government, is as idle & absurd as under an Ecclesiastical Government."
@Keep83
11 ай бұрын
@@brandonmooney2767I happen to be religious, so I don’t particularly agree with all of Madison’s conclusions here, though I can appreciate where he’s coming from given the historical context. I respect you for citing a viable foundational source in the consideration and debate of these matters. It’s just a shame that so many Americans demonize one another before attempting at arriving at some measure of mutual understanding.
@yallimsorry5983
11 ай бұрын
@@Keep83he’s speaking about what the evidence shows. Christianity had a millennia and a half of complete control over governments and during that time they were only responsible for crowning kings and Emperors. Nowhere was “Democratic government” on their minds. If anything, that was a pagan institution.
@yallimsorry5983
11 ай бұрын
@@Keep83the founding fathers saw, in their own lifetimes and the centuries before them, the violent and tyrannical regimes of Europe, consecrated by the Church, and how state churches led to bloody religious wars. Many of America’s early settlers were themselves fleeing religious repression and persecution.
@willjayden
4 ай бұрын
Most evil business on earth this thing catholic church. Ppl need stop thinking it's religion. It's corruption money sex abuse, lies, secrets, abuse, trauma. Causes depression anxiety. Coz mental emotional block. Controlled servant robot type. So this will be controlled by big pharma, all lies on news tv everything they will be fooled. It's opposite of human purpose. To remove the accumulated trash such as fear guilt EGO. These heaven hell business do the exact opposite. It's gamble drug etc same fear guilt trap.. child soldier or gang member. It's same disharmony causes the robot to go church give money in mental state. Same as the gang member sell drug for gang soldier kill. They imprisoned in the baggage places by the other. THE REAL SELF)SOUL)GOD. UNDER THE TRASH. RELIGION SWAMP HOLD GWAD UNDER DROWN UNTIL LAST BREATH IN THE BAGGAGE. PURPISE , CONTROL THAT ONE BIRTH TO DEATH" A SLAVE. NOT EVEN ONE JEW MUSLIM CATHOLIC IN HEAVEN HELL NOW. Fake business using Jesus name as a logo. ITS FEAR GUILT ONLY. All heaven hells is same business model. Big pharma uses all the tricks of heaven hell lies. Especially on elderly
@glovere2
Жыл бұрын
His ability to understand and articulate the logical conclusion of the 80s GOP is truly astounding. Many others were talking around the issue at the time, seeing the signs and understanding it to a lesser degree. Zappa cut right to the chase and distilled it as if he had a Time Machine. And he wasn’t afraid to say it. Others had things to lose, but Zappa was incorruptible.
@malonesinclaire9201
Жыл бұрын
It is unfortunate that still today when the fascist propaganda is so blatant…..it is not called out. Especially in the media.
@byronrogers4489
Жыл бұрын
You're a fan.
@byronrogers4489
Жыл бұрын
He sounds like Hitler going after Jews.
@yeehaw3792
Жыл бұрын
I mean yeah maybe but the GOP doesn't run anything in this country. All the cities and the establishment are dominated by left wing politics. Simple as.
@numbersix8919
Жыл бұрын
Zappa had as much or more to lose as anyone, but he stuck to his guns in his art and life.
@sledzeppelin
Жыл бұрын
Frank was so completely right on about the direction of American politics in the 80s.
@crocopie
Жыл бұрын
AND TODAY!
@leadoucet1432
Жыл бұрын
Came here to say that. He was so right on all counts.
@sledzeppelin
Жыл бұрын
@@leadoucet1432 Yep. It's stunning how right he has been proving to be.
@Polyphemus47
Жыл бұрын
@@leadoucet1432 He's been a hero of mine since I first 'found' him in 1966.
@leadoucet1432
Жыл бұрын
@@Polyphemus47 ✌
@MrDaveangelo1
2 жыл бұрын
"When you start trying to legislate morality - you`ve got a problem" That`s what was happening in the past, that`s what`s happening today.
@edwardmazur5774
Жыл бұрын
That's what's happening now . look at texas
@averagebodybuilder
Жыл бұрын
Legislating morality to enforce family values is great. The problem is those who don't fall in line
@DRourk
Жыл бұрын
So only legislating immorality is ok?
@averagebodybuilder
Жыл бұрын
@@DRourk immortality is being legislated. Look for payback
@DRourk
Жыл бұрын
@@averagebodybuilder Oh I'm well aware that immorality is being legislated. In fact most legislation is immoral. The argument that legislating morality is a problem though is kind of ridiculous when all things are considered.
@roddyb123
Жыл бұрын
Frank was a very perceptive and politically intelligent man. Miss him.
@matimus100
10 ай бұрын
Apparently praying and karma will resolve these world issues for our children next
@alyzu4755
Жыл бұрын
Frank Zappa was so smart, so articulate, and had so much common sense. His fear is coming to pass. 😞
@joshuataylor283
5 ай бұрын
How ironic it is that it's the lack of religion & dnc married to fascism.. He only though he had insite
@Smulpaap
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, what an articulate and smart man, Frank was
@reneharde3459
Жыл бұрын
Truly - He saw the future mess we are now dealing with
@leadoucet1432
Жыл бұрын
@@reneharde3459 he certainly did. Too bad he was right, though 😔
@gregtennessee8249
Жыл бұрын
@@reneharde3459 trump Lost
@reneharde3459
Жыл бұрын
@@gregtennessee8249 Do you honestly think the country is out of the woods yet? I'm not that optimistic.....
@chadsorensen4379
Жыл бұрын
@@gregtennessee8249 Trump won
@williamcleland
Жыл бұрын
I was in my 20s in the 70s and we were having these same conversations then.
@stinkfoot9776
Жыл бұрын
2023. Don't try and outsmart this man If it wasn't music it would have been 'politics', Science philosophy or anything he chose. A genius and unique. Missed by many.
@dannyc6166
Жыл бұрын
It’s almost spooky how correct Frank’s predictions are true now.
@charonbadmann8904
Жыл бұрын
Anyone with a critical sensibility and functioning brain saw it in Frank's day as well... he wasn't a lone voice in the wilderness. The fascists have persisted with their line ever since, thus "normalising" their bigotry.
@ellzedd4113
Жыл бұрын
He's not the only one that knew.
@DavidSmith-ss1cg
Жыл бұрын
@@charonbadmann8904 - The situation has ALWAYS been around; when the original British colonies had to deal with the fact that most preachers were the Anglican(Church of England) Church, and they wanted a tax levy to help pay them. The Pilgrims were a group of Religious troublemakers who had been thrown out of England. And further back into history; the Catholics ran Europe and started the Crusades - which are still remembered by Muslims today, and on and on. The GOP, as Zappa pointed out, started this modern Crusade - which is causing trouble TODAY - as a reaction to the exciting freedom of behavior begun in the 1950s and 60s, and that freedom and happiness was seen as as a calamity for American churches. So the Preachers - who had recently begun to televise their preaching - began telling their listeners what to do - and found that they could influence elections. The Republicans, who thought of the way young people acted as "just disgraceful" and hated short skirts and guys with long hair, kinda always hung out with those people anyway - the town councils and chambers of commerce were places that politicians hung out; just like churches.☹
@FrankHerrera-qr1mh
10 ай бұрын
Spooky are the leftist cool-aid drinkers. This guy was wrong on every point!
@user-fk2vr4uh8c
4 ай бұрын
@@DavidSmith-ss1cg Catholics didn't "start" the Crusades. Who's symbol has the sword ? Who believes in sharia law ?
@AesthetikalOne
Жыл бұрын
Now more than ever… I still miss Frank Zappa!
@seandmoore6922
Жыл бұрын
It is 2023 and Frank’s prophecies are here, RIGHT NOW!
@phantomlord8870
Жыл бұрын
Really? Are we in a fascist theocracy? If we are then they suck at suppressing all the rampant degeneracy, BLM protests, gender ideology, lgbt indoctrination of children, mass immigration, and a whole slew of other issues that a fascist theocracy would be vehemently against. Where is this supposed fascist theocracy of the cross?
@PeterNgola
Жыл бұрын
What with left-wing lunacy? Yea your right
@johnnythrogmorton7700
Жыл бұрын
Sean D. Moore • you took the words right out of my thoughts.
@TimothyBushell
Жыл бұрын
So true.
@TimothyBushell
Жыл бұрын
@@PeterNgolaSpace Lazers. Book banning. The War on Disney. Abortion bans. Anti Vaxxers. Covid deniers. Rapists. Traitors. Insurrectionists. Election deniers. Gay bashing. Nazis marches. The lunatics are mainstream on the right, and fringe on the left. It’s just a fact.
@mslinda8456
Жыл бұрын
Here we are, experiencing exactly what Frank was saying 35 years ago.
@keijulkyl
Жыл бұрын
Very little of Zappa's music spoke to me( too artsy, I think). But, he was undoubtedly a musical genius who's virtuosity knew no limits. He knew what his opinions were and came across as having put considered thought into their formation.
@larryhovekamp4318
Жыл бұрын
Frank died too soon to remind people of their smug idiocies. Yet he died just in time not to endure the present madness.
@hartubmoses6645
Жыл бұрын
I wish Zappa was still here, but if he was, in this current political climate , let alone January 6, would have crushed his spirit.
@larryhovekamp4318
Жыл бұрын
@@hartubmoses6645- Nope, Frank would have composed another typically obnoxious song and turn up the amps. He would find a way to make them suffer. He would have even considered running for high office, like US Congress.
@robertcalvanese1630
Жыл бұрын
@@hartubmoses6645 Zappa was mulling a presidential run . if nothing else it would have been fantastic to see him on national TV debating all those lame politicians
@jonp4846
Жыл бұрын
@@hartubmoses6645 Would have made more unbelievably good music.
@curiositypiqued6573
Жыл бұрын
His death may have been a silencing....suss asf
@gordon3186
Жыл бұрын
*Barry Goldwater said this over 50 years ago: "Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them." --- Barry Goldwater*
@Pfsif
Жыл бұрын
So, christians should have no representation in government, voting rights recinded?
@Globalman43
Жыл бұрын
Barry Goldwater was absolutely right.
@b3stanga697
Жыл бұрын
They are the worst, and most of them are as dumb as dirt!
@fasillimerick7394
Жыл бұрын
He was also correct.
@randymillhouse791
Жыл бұрын
So what? America is nothing special. Neither was Rome. Human extinction is my hope for this Planet. More George Santos. More MTG. More Trump! More Putin! Let's get humans eradicated ASAFP! Vote for these lunatics PLEASE!
@duderino1950
Жыл бұрын
A fascist theocracy. What a brilliant turn of phrase and spot on prediction. Frank saw the GOP of 2023.
@charlesweatherill874
Жыл бұрын
I was impressed with how articulate Zappa was!
@gweegoop7781
Жыл бұрын
Speaking of changes in the media, it's hard to imagine such a erudite conversation happening anywhere on television these days.
@leadoucet1432
Жыл бұрын
If you think back to a week ago when x45 was on CNN... 🙄
@dkupke
Жыл бұрын
@@leadoucet1432ppl have no appreciation for how much the press softballed it with him
@anthony27334
Жыл бұрын
@@dkupke Yes , it's a shocking and scary.
@dkupke
Жыл бұрын
@@anthony27334 after how he behaved during the first Republican primary debate, the RNC and the networks never should have allowed him back on the debate stage
@ANunes06
Жыл бұрын
@@dkupke Among those with no appreciation for that, the press takes the cake. All 2015 they euphorically rolled in the money with no brakes. For the next 5 years they made even more money hemming and hawing about how chaotic things were. Now that it's boring again they are doing their best to open that money fountain again. Recklessness beyond imagination.
@lorijohnson2348
Жыл бұрын
OMG!! He actually said “fascist theocracy!!” Why did no one listen? Let’s hope it’s not too late.
@anthony27334
Жыл бұрын
So spot on !! Your country is in real bad shape , sad to say !
@oginaz
Жыл бұрын
Too late for what?
@jimmcmanmon
Жыл бұрын
Charlie Rose can never stop himself from making himself the interviewee😉
@djm4457
Жыл бұрын
That was always my problem with his show. He couldn't stop wanting to show off. He always had to be host and guest.
@HopHeadSeattle
Жыл бұрын
Charlie Rose was a Legend in His Own Mind
@jackmerlotdoesntliveherean9652
Жыл бұрын
🎵 every other city we go / every other video 🎵
@martilives896
Жыл бұрын
geez Frank you have no idea how much we need you now😑
@iconoclast4440
Жыл бұрын
Also George Carlin.
@babagalacticus
Жыл бұрын
@@iconoclast4440 and DICK GREGORY....
@sharkusvelarde
Жыл бұрын
Amen
@DRourk
Жыл бұрын
I really want a Zima.....
@Chris-is6xb
2 жыл бұрын
One solid third (at least) of this nation has never, nor will it ever understand the meaning behind the phrase: 'Separation of church and state.' You can thank them directly for crippling our efforts to evolve this nation forward.
@jimshipp7776
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, they seem to have problems with anything that revolves around the word evolve.
@MarvelousLXVII
Жыл бұрын
The good news is that generation is getting older and the younger generation is not falling for the religion bullshit.
@plooked
Жыл бұрын
they EXPLICITLY OPPOSE the absolute FIRST PRIORITY of the Bill of Rights: Freedom of Speech & Separation of Church and State. which mean they are as ANTI-AMERICAN as can be. like trump, they are the TRUE TRAITORS!
@fl3082
Жыл бұрын
"Separation of Church and State" does not exist anywhere in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence. Nice try, though.
@plooked
Жыл бұрын
@@fl3082 just because you lie about something does not make it so. no matter how many times you repeat your lie, it remains false. try to READ the ACTUAL WORDS that i wrote ^^^ above instead of just making shit up like your orange daddy do. i stated the FIRST of the BILL OF RIGHTS and the BILL OF RIGHTS are the 1st ten amendments to the Constitution, so YES SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE ACTUALLY IS PART OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. It is stated as part of the 1st AMENDMENT OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS! Not only that, but the Founding Fathers chose keeping the god-damned church out of our government along with Freedom of the Press AND Freedom of Speech are all 3 MORE IMPORTANT to our nation than are fucking guns!
@glen7228
Жыл бұрын
And how right he was! Frank nailed it, he could not have put it any better.
@jimiV66
Жыл бұрын
musically brilliant and socially brilliant. Decades before his time
@packersfan6814
Жыл бұрын
He was such a smart guy, I wish I would have appreciated him more back in the day.
@ms.annthrope415
Жыл бұрын
He did a good job hiding behind his facade of rock anarchist. Perhaps if he took sometime to hang out with Christopher Hitchens, discuss the irrationality of religion with Richard Dawkins, or Sam Harris, he would have been taken more seriously.
@Dstrbrdgrnd
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been listening to his music and his position since 1967, he is the MAN💪💪💪🤠
@wankertanker1813
Жыл бұрын
@Ms. Ann Thrope Christopher Hitchens was decent until he supported the invasion of Iraq. Wtf?! 1) war 2) US had been imperialist up till then. Why would one think that suddenly stopped.
@davedoyle9623
Жыл бұрын
@@ms.annthrope415 He wanted to play guitar and rock , more than pontificate and showboat his views.
@guypledger7849
Жыл бұрын
@@ms.annthrope415 the problem with Hitchens, Dawkins, and Harris is they all (in the end) became obsessed with islam. Don't get me wrong, islam has its issues (I lived in a muslim country for two years) but it's no crazier than christianity, Lenin, or Mengistu. The difference between Zappa and those aforementioned individuals is that Zappa manifested spirit with his life's work. Zappa actually makes atheism attractive because his music and business prowess are boundless in nature, a bit like cosmology. He is as interesting as Neil DeGrasse Tyson and Carl Sagan, a veritable saint of atheism. Sam Harris, on the other hand, is one of the most dreary, stultifying bores that I've ever had the displeasure of listening to.
@hammer-r
Жыл бұрын
I’d love to have heard what he would have thought of trump. Lol. This guy had it right so many years ago.
@normhardy
Жыл бұрын
What would he have said abour our current, somewhat senile, President?
@hammer-r
Жыл бұрын
@@normhardy there you go projecting your own wishes on a non event. Better than trying to overthrow the friggin government. The gop ain’t in support of democracy, but dictatorship. And people like you willingly follow him. Go study some history of 1930's Germany.
@beverly719
Жыл бұрын
@@normhardy Frank Zappa wouldn’t like Biden…but, like so many of us, he would recognize that the Donald and most republicans are so much worse
@brando7266
Жыл бұрын
He would piss on trump,
@DAVYMAC
Жыл бұрын
@@normhardy Great reply from you. Your truth crushes their lies.
@jimklingensmith6178
Жыл бұрын
Frank Zappa was prophetic. Not only do we need another voice like Frank's, we need to listen this time around
@davidgoodwin9594
Жыл бұрын
How about Joe Biden??
@MrRyan-wu4jx
Жыл бұрын
@@davidgoodwin9594 I don’t care for the guy, but Biden does seem generally capable of not forcing his religious beliefs onto the general population. Problem is just being an example of that isn’t enough for partisan morality police.
@georgefurman4371
Жыл бұрын
Political wisdom comes from a clear history memory and class identity. Zappa knew the history of class war in the USA and saw the agenda of fascism displayed by the GOP at the wealthy class service. Today his words make perfect sense.
@Slowhand871
2 жыл бұрын
Man I miss Frank. Love him or hate him he had passion and steadfast beliefs.
@richsackett3423
Жыл бұрын
@@Beatnik59 Frank was no pervert. Fk U.
@joriankell1983
Жыл бұрын
He's full of shit
@plooked
Жыл бұрын
@@Beatnik59 Lucky?!?!! to have died from cancer at only 52 due to medical incompetence? are you trolling here or just plain dumb or both? while you may not agree with Frank's views on the different sexes and also re sex, there's absolutely nothing to indicate that he would have terrorized and/or harassed women, as his interviewer was alleged to have done leading to the loss of his employment. Frank's lyrics not withstanding--he was reporting what he observed in society. according to former female employees, Frank was actually quite respectful to all people, unless their behavior provided him reason to act otherwise. so your tiny mind can comprehend--this is reference to how he spoke to people, this is NOT saying he sexually harassed because someone's behavior meant they deserved it. Pauline Butcher and Dale Bozio if you are actually interested in the truth.
@plooked
Жыл бұрын
@@Beatnik59 Put up some facts or STFU.
@Cheerfultoday
Жыл бұрын
Yes, he was just like Christians that way.
@veronicaharris8541
Жыл бұрын
He was so prophetic, so missed. We need a voice like that now
@beteljooz6180
Жыл бұрын
I think this generation's Frank Zappa is Jon Stewart.
@veronicaharris8541
Жыл бұрын
@@beteljooz6180 I agree, except he goes one step farther. He gets laws passed & uses his platform to shine a light on many left wing causes
@djm4457
Жыл бұрын
@beteljooz I was going to say exactly that. Glad you did.
@chumbucketjones9761
Жыл бұрын
There are voices like his but they never make it to the tv set because people like him do not generate enough ad revenue. People have been so dumbed down and have developed such an attention deficient that they'll never understand him anyway.
@surferbri5346
Жыл бұрын
You do, Donald Trump
@johngraves6878
Жыл бұрын
Thank you that was great. And they barely scratched the surface. This was in my mind just a teaser of where this conversation could have gone.
@biggiefries4111
Жыл бұрын
Prophetic words that ring so true even to this day... from the legendary Frank Zappa. R.I.P.
@phantomlord8870
Жыл бұрын
Ring true to this day? Buddy, we're living the exact opposite of what he's saying, the dogma that rules today is the woke culture that most brainless idiots will try to cancel you if you disagree with.
@Dstrbrdgrnd
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍
@haroldbrooks4235
Жыл бұрын
I think was dead on near his time of death that someone was out to kill him
@matimus100
10 ай бұрын
He was a Christian show some respect
@johnmoosey8173
Жыл бұрын
Wow....Not only a musical genius but spot on.....we are right here right now
@Inquiring_Together
Жыл бұрын
He puts it simply in a way no politician does today.
@bojo6607
Жыл бұрын
I think I voted for him once (a write in ) miss him . God bless his soul. So smart , so talented . Thank you for your music
@koki84ji7
3 ай бұрын
He was an atheist 😂
@volkerbuhrmester4181
Жыл бұрын
Was für ein klarer Kopf und so angenehm zu hören. Ich liebe ihn heute noch für seine Art Danke Frank Zappa und Familie
@Jewels122003
Жыл бұрын
what are you saying? english please
@judgegixxer
Жыл бұрын
When the dogma becomes legislation, that's when you have the danger. Right on the money.
@jeffreed6432
Жыл бұрын
I wish we still had Frank and his wisdom with us today. Everything he is saying here in 1988 is even more true today.
@paulauerbach2874
Жыл бұрын
Frank Zappa’s statements were highly prophetic.
@tigerlikeswater
Жыл бұрын
Prescient would be a better word, for Frank, don't think he would enjoy being called "prophetic". but that's just my take.
@JohnSmith-su3ze
Жыл бұрын
Yes, but the Fascism didn't come from the Christians, it came from the Woke
@tigerlikeswater
Жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-su3ze I bet you really believe that .....bless
@Robindalmiras
Жыл бұрын
Prophetic in his assessment and look what’s happening now! He was such a smart man!
@richardpowell1772
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, we now have transgenders doing strip shows in front of children. Oh, you might have some restrictions on killing your baby. Boo hoo.
@rong2912
Жыл бұрын
In 2023 I'd rather have a country run by the sane right than the current utter insanity of the extreme left.
@mr.horrorchild4094
Жыл бұрын
What's happening? People are questioning the belief that men can become women and that children need to learn about it? Or are you talking about those awful people who refused to take the safe and effective vaccine?
@jeffvirosztko5241
Жыл бұрын
I agree, way ahead of his time, he is saying what people are saying now...
@phantomlord8870
Жыл бұрын
Really? Are we in a fascist theocracy? If we are then they suck at suppressing all the rampant degeneracy, BLM protests, gender ideology, lgbt indoctrination of children, mass immigration, and a whole slew of other issues that a fascist theocracy would be vehemently against. Where is this supposed fascist theocracy of the cross?
@mjtitus7907
Жыл бұрын
Well said Micheal G. Let's not forget FZ, he cared and he knew the score. Brilliant man.
@nickrich56
Жыл бұрын
Frank was being frank about what the Christofascists were up to then and his prediction is so close to unfolding it's scary.😲
@ChuckSchickx
Жыл бұрын
So it is said, so let it be written. What Zappa said all those years ago has indeed come to pass. Look at the GOP today.
@jellyfish1333
Жыл бұрын
Wow this is in so many ways identical to present times. It’s could be another interviewer another interviewee and absolutely word-for-word dialogue lol
@konradheumann8342
2 жыл бұрын
Zappa is 100% correct. Prophetic, even.
@LDTOK-zs8oz
Жыл бұрын
Frank was a visionary!
@coffeefish
Жыл бұрын
Oh sure,,,Frank knows everything right?
@tiedyehobo
Жыл бұрын
He is sizzling in hell right now.
@sunlightascendingmi
Жыл бұрын
@@tiedyehobo There's no such thing, except hell on earth. All because of religion.
@DRourk
Жыл бұрын
@@tiedyehobo Curious.. why do you say that?
@NicholasGuccione
8 ай бұрын
I luckily visited Frank at his house on Woodrow Wilson Drive in LA in the 90's because of my PENTHOUSE magazine heritage. He answered the door himself, and invited me in and offered me some ice cream(!) haha I was in my mid thirties I think. We watched a VHS video I edited about anti-censorship, and the moral majority. I cut it all to his awesome song; "I'm the Slime" and he loved it. I waited like a boy in the principles office while he asked me to wait so he could go show it to his wife Gail in bed, who wasn't feeling well, and came down and said she loved it too. It finally (only) aired on Manhattan cable. I'll never forget that experience 'till the day I die. And beyond. He was and is, a genius.
@Harpo.jr70
Жыл бұрын
And here we are today, you were so right Frank.
@phantomlord8870
Жыл бұрын
Really? Are we in a fascist theocracy? If we are then they suck at suppressing all the rampant degeneracy, BLM protests, gender ideology, lgbt indoctrination of children, mass immigration, and a whole slew of other issues that a fascist theocracy would be vehemently against. Where is this supposed fascist theocracy of the cross?
@oortobject77
Жыл бұрын
@@phantomlord8870 Florida! Wake Up!!!
@oortobject77
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention: Idaho, Texas, just for starters!!!
@caseydonaldson1558
Жыл бұрын
Zappa seeing the future with 100 percent accuracy.
@jollyjoker888
Жыл бұрын
Seems like this country was foundered" on the concept of separation of Church and State !
@ClarenceHW
Жыл бұрын
Nailed it! Kudos Frank, not only were you a killer guitar player also a brilliant analyst.
@RutherfordBeehayze-kw2mz
11 ай бұрын
"He had a lot to say, he had a lot of nothing to say, we'll miss him."
@kevinlutz5994
10 ай бұрын
"Politics is the entertainment division of the military industrial complex."
@MykolasGilbert
3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that many people of vision are no longer with us, and we are left with the nightmare they envisioned because we didn't think or consider what they said might happen and NOW it's too late!!
@Chris-is6xb
2 жыл бұрын
Take heart. They ARE with us, they're just not on these platforms.
@dagnabbit6187
Жыл бұрын
@@Chris-is6xb I certainly hope so Chris . I do agree with Howard Stern’s rant on the overturning of Roe versus Wade and that horrible Supreme Court . He blames the Electoral College and he talks how the majority of Americans don’t agree with all these religious zealots and they are the minority even though these fanatics are trying to impose their dogma on the majority . Howard was objective enough to state that if it were the majority then you would just have to put up with it but of course it isn’t.
@FatDave2112
Жыл бұрын
Yes, but at the same time, in a way I'm glad Zappa, Thompson, and Carlin don't have to see their worst fears realized.
@Rixster53
Жыл бұрын
@@FatDave2112Hell was waiting with arms wide open for all three of those haters of God! As bright as they were they missed the most important issue that faces mankind. What do you think of Jesus Christ? John 3, you must be born again to enter the kingdom of God. The Lord is NOT willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. If you refuse the grace of God, you get thrown into spiritual prison, HELL...
@FatDave2112
Жыл бұрын
@@Rixster53 shut up, fundie.
@mikevo3974
Жыл бұрын
"When the dogma becomes legislation that's when you have the danger" -- Frank Zappp A truth for 2023
@Jewels122003
Жыл бұрын
😳😳😳😳
@Fortwentt
10 жыл бұрын
Zappa was a genius and saw through a lot of sht, a lot ofm b sh it
@williamhanlon8159
Жыл бұрын
I never realized how prescient Zappa was.
@Markus_Blewish
Жыл бұрын
The ability of the right to buy influence that Zappa spoke of was increased an order of magnitude by Citizen's United decision in 2010. And hence we see the rapid slide towards a "fascist theocracy" Zappa also warned of here. Pretty smart guy.
@ShadyGrove14
7 жыл бұрын
Would have loved to hear what Zappa would say about this year's political debacle
@NothingYouHaventReadBefore
7 жыл бұрын
Shady GroveARR I'd rather hear him sing to be honest.
@paulinebutcherbird
7 жыл бұрын
Agreed. He would have a field-day with Trump, or maybe not, because Frank tended to go for non-populist things and given there's an avalanche of hate toward Trump already, perhaps Frank might have left his alone. When the Kent State university atrocity occurred, I asked Frank if he would write a song about it. He said, 'no. Other people are already doing it.'
@DoomKid
6 жыл бұрын
Good compromise: I'd love to hear him song about this era's political debacle
@melissacooper4482
5 жыл бұрын
I don't think that Frank Zappa would ever support Donald Trump.
@joeb6137
5 жыл бұрын
Bernie 2016
@Creamstp
11 жыл бұрын
I miss Frank.....
@gregwood1491
Жыл бұрын
We should have listened to Zappa way back then
@brucehanson4147
Жыл бұрын
I did!...on vinyl
@stephenspencer4672
Жыл бұрын
Frank Zappa warned us of what was coming. We should have been listening.
@bwana-ma-coo-bah425
2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine for one minute Elvis being asked these questions and how he would answer them?
@cynthianaslim
Жыл бұрын
No. People would be asking about his singing and music. Elvis was a lot more talented than Frank.
@dagnabbit6187
Жыл бұрын
@@cynthianaslim Well it is a matter of taste and genre but yes Elvis was the King and he didn’t do dirty or satire and is more iconic than Frank. So that out of the way I will say personally as an amateur Guitarist that Frank got some of the most remarkable SG and Strat tones that I ever heard and Elvis wasn’t a composer . I love both of them but for me the Fab Four are the best .
@johnthemachine
Жыл бұрын
he'd have to ask to colonel what he could or couldnt say. elivs. lol.
@bwana-ma-coo-bah425
Жыл бұрын
@@cynthianaslim dream on. Frank was his own man, Elvis was a puppet.
@bwana-ma-coo-bah425
Жыл бұрын
@@johnthemachine Well, Elvis was a puppet.
@chriswhit44
Жыл бұрын
He’s a real fortune teller. He was way ahead of the curve.
@stackhat8624
Жыл бұрын
Plenty of other people of that era were warning about the dangers. It was just Frank was the only one that occasionally got onto mainstream media.
@benevolencia4203
11 ай бұрын
What comes around goes around. I became a “Reagan democrat“ in 1980. In 1988 I joined the Republican Party so I could vote for Jack Kemp over then Vice President George Bush in Republican primary election. I removed myself from the republican party in 2017 when the then republican commander-in-chief said my brother can not serve in the US military simple because they labeled his as a Trans Man. I love, and respect my brother, he lives by such a upstanding life of code, of honor, and respect. It broke my heart to see him (and others of the Trans Community) so wrongly dishonored.
@BenjaminWasHere
Жыл бұрын
I have to come back and add to my last post because he had this interview 25 years ago... 10 years ago was ALREADY impressive...Wow!
@tarhunta2111
2 жыл бұрын
How prophetic Zappa was.Everything he said has come true.
@mr.horrorchild4094
Жыл бұрын
Yes, he knew back then that men could be one women and that people who didn't get vaccinated were bad
@bundy26
Жыл бұрын
@@JC-sj2pd😂😂😂😂 stop it please
@davidsemrow2485
Жыл бұрын
@@JC-sj2pd Hell literally makes no sense. But since you utterly abandoned all respect for logic and reason in your haste to show fealty to a 1800 year old cult, I have to ask, what use is debating people? Debate assumes both participants understand and respect logic? Since you've conveniently abandoned logic as a principle, telling someone they're going to hell is tantamount to an ad hominem attack.
@bundy26
Жыл бұрын
@JC-sj2pd you are no different than the extremists from the other religion in the middle east.
@plooked
Жыл бұрын
@@JC-sj2pd "you'll see"??? WOW! thank you for showing all of us the light with that well thought out intelligent answer. finally, a true Christian, just like Christ and trying to help out his enemies. blessed are you, you hypocrite asshole J C. lol
@PaulTheSkeptic
9 жыл бұрын
He's a smart guy. He sees it like it is.
@MakMuk
9 жыл бұрын
He has no idea what is going on.
@PaulTheSkeptic
8 жыл бұрын
Mak Muk What are you disagreeing with? You want to legislate morality and end separation of church and state?
@MakMuk
8 жыл бұрын
+Paul TheSkeptic The Constitution prevents the GOP from making good on the promises they make to the 6000 year old Earth crowd. That's why the kooks support Ben Carson today. He's correct about the Reagan campaign's strategy. But the GOP is all about enacting policies that support the wealthy donors (something he apparently supports). They talk about marriage, prayer, abortion to get the kooks to vote for them and then they ignore them until the next election. As a result you get Ben Carson who wants God to design his tax plan. The kooks are frustrated. They didn't like a Mormon candidate in the last election.
@PaulTheSkeptic
8 жыл бұрын
Mak Muk From what I'm gathering from reading your comment several times, you seem to agree with him for the most part.
@Civilizashum
7 жыл бұрын
"But the GOP is all about enacting policies that support the wealthy donors (something he apparently supports). " Nothing at all apparent about that. There's nothing here resembling it. He said 'People like to do business", that the GOP should stick to pro-business, but earlier he says that some Republicans pose as moderate then find out "the Right is paying the freight".
@Billyboy939
Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, Charlie keeps trying to both sides the conversation, perfectly illustrating what Frank was getting at with the media.
@cantseenothing
Жыл бұрын
Always thought Rose was very over-rated--and full of himself. Interrupts a LOT!
@ag4allgood
11 ай бұрын
Frank Zappa with quite the Political view on the GOP. How insightful to say fascism is around the corner for them - Don The Con who would have guessed ? I forgot about Pat Robertson the TV Evangelist / Faith healing candidate. Frank saw it happening before it did almost 3 decades later. Really interesting guy.
@SwiftRIBSAust
Жыл бұрын
What a genius - Frank the oracle
@matimus100
10 ай бұрын
Nonsense he didn't believe in superstition
@ghadrackpotato960
4 жыл бұрын
Prescient. How thoughtful men used to behave. Frank Zappa should be on the Mt. Rushmore of American ideals, strive to be like Frank, find something you love, do it well. When something bad is happening get involved. He should get a chapter in american history books to inspire kids.
@JonPais
Жыл бұрын
Mt Rushmore? You've got to be kidding!!!
@tjmul3381
Жыл бұрын
@@JonPais Read the three words After 'Rushmore'.
@JonPais
Жыл бұрын
@@tjmul3381 How about you look up the history of Mt Rushmore?
@DAVYMAC
Жыл бұрын
@@JonPais If he looks up the history of Mt. Rushmore the truth would crush him. Great comments from you. Real haters cannot read or face facts.
@JonPais
Жыл бұрын
@@DAVYMAC ❤️
@goodkawz
Жыл бұрын
2023-06-17: I liked the Mothers of Invention 😮before this and still do and think Zappa was a genius. But I was also a county chairperson in Dubuque County, Iowa, for Robertson in 1988. I miss both Zappa and Robertson. We need more outside the box thinking these days. Robertson won the caucus in our county (but not in the state) and was proud of carrying this very Catholic Dubuque County with a lot of Catholic support. I don’t claim to speak for all, or even most Robertson’s supporters, and my perspective has evolved over the years, and the following uses some 20-20 hindsight, But here is how I see it right now in 2023: I think a big part of what we Robertson supporters were doing was trying to prevent the situation we have right now in June 2023. We probably didn’t envision all the insanity we have today, but we knew there was a real risk in national Godlessness, I think many people today would rather have more of that traditional morality back than have women having to compete against men in women’s sports, gender insanity with young children suffering genital mutilation with government subsidized disorientation, people’s votes being bought with their grandchildren’s money, an open border, an LGBTQ+¿ flag being displayed more prominently (between 2 US flags) than the US flag at the White House, and our nation flooded with fentanyl and human (child sex) trafficking and unidentifiable people from all over the world with unknown agendas spread throughout the country (including “got-alway” immigrants from countries antagonistic to our own. The situation is now 180º from what Zappa had described in this interview, and it is conservatism that has been outspent (by billionaires) and more censored out of, and excluded from, serious debate. Actually serious debate has been endangered. And now the big and dirty money is overwhelmingly supporting the left, Education, entertainment, popular eleemosynary activities, government agencies, media and social media all nearly always aligned in support of the left. “Who Are the Brain Police?” We Americans have despised our birthright (freedom, democracy, citizenship, etc.) and sold it for a pot of putrid porridge. Whether we can be like the Prodigal Son and find our way home remains to be seen. Lord help us turn this around,. Pl3ase !? 🙏🏼
@jazzyjay698
Жыл бұрын
I was so lucky to see Zappa live 3 times in Glasgow Scotland in the 70's. He is a fucking hero
@noahmiyavong6780
Жыл бұрын
Frank's predictions about Christianity and politics in the USA were Spot on. Here we are," pulling the Jesus string"
@smokinjoe45
Жыл бұрын
Frank was seeing 40 years ahead of us
@roberthanan5541
Жыл бұрын
Zappas kind of genius is rare now days.
@bryanreed742
Жыл бұрын
My suspicion is that there are quite a few such people. They just don't get air time. The news these days is aimed entirely at ratings and not at all at informing the public. When was the last time you saw an interview like this on a news show?
@terraplane49
Жыл бұрын
frank Zappa was ahead of the curve, in music, in political observation, and in social intercourse, right from the early days, and I often wonder at what he might have become had he lived until now.
@shahnawazvlog6266
Жыл бұрын
Zappa is a Great man so intelligent person...
@bbrahbboul2748
Жыл бұрын
What an amazing guy .
@wokeness420
Жыл бұрын
If Zapper was alive today he would see his fears manifesting.
@DRourk
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps. But not any that he mentioned in this video.
@johndalton3180
Жыл бұрын
No. He was 100% right. Trump represents a fascist theocracy. He's amazingly prescient here.
@DRourk
Жыл бұрын
@@johndalton3180 LOL.. no... You don't know what fascism is nor theocracy. Fascism and socialism were already alive and very well in the USA prior to Trump appearing on the horizon. Theocracy is not on even the remote horizon at this point. We're at minimum two generations out from something like that, and there's almost zero influence in that direction right now.
@johndalton3180
Жыл бұрын
@DRourk go fuck yourself, scumbag Trumper. Zappa would HATE Trump, and probably you too.
@charliemirviss4608
Жыл бұрын
Zappa had it totally nailed nearly forty years ago.
@orchidlilly7518
Жыл бұрын
Frank is right, we are seeing this happening right now
@oginaz
Жыл бұрын
What are you seeing? The globalists destroying America using their Democrat puppets?
@user-bc6ok1yh4s
Жыл бұрын
Within a mere 5 seconds of this video the heart of the issue is exposed.
@mariocisneros911
Жыл бұрын
Wow this is so prophetic. And from the 1980's i believe.
@archeredutainment8453
Жыл бұрын
Isn't it amazing how the media portrays people like Frank Zappa the way they did and do.... right up until he shows up on a talk show, and then the media's take on Zappa vapourizes....and America now see's a fellow American as one of the really smart and lovable ones.
@GGGG-si3jr
7 жыл бұрын
Its funny how rock stars like frank Zappa(and yes I know he didn't see himself as a rock star) and Neil peart(drummer of Rush) seem more intelligent and take politics more seriously than today's world leaders, like trumps twitter is just a huge joke...
@mejsmith1
Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of that is they aren't running for office and don't need to lie. There is no attempt to manipulate perception, but just say it as they see it. Politics, in operation, is the opposite. To succeed in politics, is to be a liar.
@DRourk
Жыл бұрын
Everyone's twitter is a huge joke, on all of the people who read it.
@mr.horrorchild4094
Жыл бұрын
I wish Bono would be president and Cher would be vice president
@DAVYMAC
Жыл бұрын
@@mr.horrorchild4094 That would be the real horror.
@brittanyfirns7393
Жыл бұрын
@@mejsmith1 That's a great point. I used to wonder why such astute artists never broke into politics, but they'd only be stifled. They're intelligent enough to know what's going on, and smart enough to stay out of it.
@danalaniz7314
Жыл бұрын
So 35 years later, the things he warned about are coming true!
@phantomlord8870
Жыл бұрын
Really? Are we in a fascist theocracy? If we are then they suck at suppressing all the rampant degeneracy, BLM protests, gender ideology, lgbt indoctrination of children, mass immigration, and a whole slew of other issues that a fascist theocracy would be vehemently against. Where is this supposed fascist theocracy of the cross?
@Mncrr
6 ай бұрын
I truly believe frank was a libertarian. Stunned to learn he chose to not drink or do drugs in a culture drowning in it. And a father and husband at a time when that wasn’t hip.
@courtneygillespie1187
7 ай бұрын
He predicted our current future.
@okd521
Жыл бұрын
I know Charlie Rose had his issues but he sure as hell did do great interviews with great guests
@bethh.9647
Жыл бұрын
Agree. So the man liked women. He wasn't Trumpish about it. And at least CR was good looking. Lol. He knows how to conduct an interview with a good exchange of conversation and questions.
@Beatnik59
Жыл бұрын
Thinking about Charlie Rose's "issues" only makes me think of what kind of "issues" would have surfaced with Frank Zappa, had he been here today. And before the Boomers pile in here and say "you don't know Zappa," just how much do THEY know about Zappa? Probably just as much as they knew about Cosby, or Epstein, or Weinstein. But then, when the women came forward, they told a whole different story.
@tommylord
Жыл бұрын
Charlie Rose is a dirtbag
@KatieRaeRae
Жыл бұрын
@@bethh.9647 "So the man liked women." He sexually harrassed 27 women. If that ain't Trumpish, I don't know what is. It isn't a compliment to be sexually harrassed in the workplace. It's gross and unprofessional. Jesus H.
@mrtrolly4184
Жыл бұрын
@@KatieRaeRae fucking double standards. Your politics, "morals" or how good you are at your job shouldn't give you a free pass. Still though Trump is on a whole other level, practically every woman who's interacted with him privately has something bad to say about him.
@elmolewis9123
Жыл бұрын
Religion and the right-wing Facistism. He couldn't have been more spot-on for today.
@greg6500
Жыл бұрын
If we had 30 more years of Zappa instead of Robertson the world would be a much better place.
@michaeldeaton
Жыл бұрын
Someone ressurect Zappa and give him an award for this degree of foresight
@Sweence
9 жыл бұрын
Boy, Frank was prophetic in his claim that the US could be run by theocrats.
@sommerioslo
9 жыл бұрын
***** He wasn't prophetic, he was a realist. But maybe you guys don't care about the real world?
@crzyprplmnky
8 жыл бұрын
+sommerioslo Prophetic implies that he was accurate...
@Sweence
8 жыл бұрын
Forcing Google+ Makes Me Feel Better About the Spying Every republican candidate is a religious kook who would like to infuse their Christianity into our government.
@crzyprplmnky
8 жыл бұрын
+Sweence Sorry I was trying to define the word to sommerioslo. I agree entirely. It's incredible that Bernie Sanders is considered left wing, when he's barely center-left.
@Sweence
8 жыл бұрын
Tina Diab You would trust a religious kook who believes in ghosts and devils over over a rationalist? You are an idiot to be sure!
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