Love your style man. Can't believe you don't have more subs. Keep kicking ass
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. I definitely feel late to the game on YT, but I’m hoping it’ll be a fun little adventure finding a community on here too. I appreciate you coming along for the ride, James!
@jermss_
Жыл бұрын
Timbo! Love seeing you in my insta feed and I sure as heck love seeing you here 🍻
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Hey! Good to see you on here. I hope you're digging the long-form, less silly content! hahaha
@PicardManeuver
Жыл бұрын
I am LOVING this moment that cast metal shell drums seem to be having, they were all over records in the 80s and 90s (well, the Tama was anyways) and then kinda disappeared for a while!
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. They’re such wonderful drums, especially under mics. Now we just gotta find someone to make entire cast kits! 😂
@burban8218
Жыл бұрын
Duluth Brass Drums will make you a set. Hoops as well.
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
@@burban8218 I think he’s closed up shop temporarily because of staffing shortages. Guven in Turkey would probably do it, though!
@burban8218
Жыл бұрын
Nah…. They’re still making them. Just got a quote for a few shells.
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
@@burban8218 That’s good to hear!
@fenderfive9380
Жыл бұрын
The kit is small sizes but it kicks!!
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
It does! If you get the head selection and tuning right, it’s surprising just how big 20-12-14 can sound!
@terrystowers6085
Жыл бұрын
I remember when this drum was debuting. Late 1980s, all the drums were big and deep, the cymbals were as thick as manhole covers, the drum kits were enormous, everything weighed as much as an elephant, and the gig was undoubtedly going to involve a flight or two of stairs. The Aqua Net hairspray, purchased in bulk by the case, hung in the air like maritime fog. And, oh yes, there was spandex as far as the eye could see. 🤘
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
What a time for drummers and music in general!! 😂😂❤️❤️👊👊🤘🤘
@terrystowers6085
Жыл бұрын
@@timbofromkeno it really was a fun time to be alive and gigging. I can’t imagine trying to lug that PA gear around at this advanced age. The power amps alone were fifty or sixty pounds each, for God’s sake, haha! And there were six of them…we were a goofy bunch, and we were ambitious, lol. 😁🕺🏻🎼🥁🎤🍻
@BeesWaxMinder
Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if this is a joke/April fool or what but I want it to be true and I’ve subscribed to you anyway😂!!👍
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Lol This is a real drum! More fun (and funny) stuff to come. Thanks!
@BeesWaxMinder
Жыл бұрын
@@timbofromkeno 👍
@justhadrums
Жыл бұрын
Better than the terminator imo
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Agreed! 😂👊
@ThomasMetal75
2 ай бұрын
What a godly sounding drum set, snare drum, and cymbals here. Holy be-joly! 😮
@timbofromkeno
2 ай бұрын
100%! Thanks Thomas.
@Khempejjer
Жыл бұрын
Great stuff!
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate it!
@richie7782
Жыл бұрын
Wow didn’t know your on KZitem thanks man you’ve got yourself a new sub btw Collins!!!!
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Richie! I just made the jump onto YT a few weeks ago. I hope you dig this stuff! 😁👊
@matthewpaluch777
Жыл бұрын
I had both sizes...they were crap & cracked really easy. Not to mention the hardware flaked off. The 2nd generation was alot beefier. The Paiste snare drums were alot better imho!
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
I think it’s the alloy. B20 is brittle, but B12 (the 2002 alloy) might be just the right spot metallurgy-wise to make a drum!
@Powerhauze
Жыл бұрын
Great content👍🏼👍🏼. I actually got a few of these and in the late 90's I was informed by Gatzen himself that there were 300 of the 6.5" x 14" 10 lug made, and i believe 60 of the of the 4.75 × 14" 8 lug snares (360 total). Many did crack, however I have both depths original without the crack, and I got them both with cracks (full crack top bearing edge to bottom bearing edge). I used the cracked ones to experiment and compare. No noticable difference. In the end the tension from the heads keeps the shell together, and the minimal los of air from the crack doesn't affect the sound. They are amazing snares and the 8 lug is the 1 snare I would use if I was allowed only one! You can get ANY sound from that drum, warmer than wood in some head/tuning combinations👍🏼👍🏼PS, I highly recommend the N&C Copper Snare if you want another "Chameleon".👍🏼👍🏼
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the fun facts. Gatzen would know the numbers for sure! And I love eight lug drums. Just makes sense!!
@johngleeson3149
Жыл бұрын
Love your channel. I’m learning stuff.👍
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
So glad you’re digging it, John. Thanks man!!
@krusher74
Жыл бұрын
if you are doing a video on a snare like this it would be great to see a bit of the snare played alone, some buzz rolls, some rudiments, then some damping options, maybe put other heads on it if you have some. I feel we hardly got to hear more that 20% of it sound.
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
I understand. Unfortunately, I’m not a rudimental or classically trained player. I’m a punk rock kid who grew up, so this is what I know how to do. Haha
@BeardDuder
Жыл бұрын
That is one tasty snare. Yum yum.
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Yeah baby!! 😁😁👊👊
@docksidemarine4273
Жыл бұрын
Very cool. I remember danney carey from tool had a whole set cast from paiste cymbals. Its on thr lataralus album.
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
He’s still got them, I think. Such a cool set!!
@af7119
Жыл бұрын
Your playing reminds me of Abe Laboriel. Great video too!
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. That means a lot! 😁👊
@moondrums
Жыл бұрын
New subscriber. Great video, I would love to snag this drum.
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I’d love to own one of these too. They’re phenomenal!
@RickMichaelis63
Жыл бұрын
YES it’s cool a little too pricey but yes, it’s definitely cool
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Agreed on everything!
@DanielMcBrain
Жыл бұрын
Paiste did something like this for Danny Carey I think ...
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
They did! They call it the Spirit of 2002. 😁👊
@Drummerbobo
11 ай бұрын
hoooooooooly beatiful sound! i love it bell-bronze snare drum sound!
@timbofromkeno
11 ай бұрын
It’s so good! 😁👊
@coolatta1
Жыл бұрын
middle aged - must got a stable carrer, maybe a good 401k who knows
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
We can only hope! 😂😂😂
@DrumsWithTaylor
Жыл бұрын
Yo! Been meaning to ask, where do you get the shelves behind you?
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
I looked up “mobile wire shelving” on Amazon and bought the most inexpensive options at the sizes I wanted. They’re great!
@strettoasino9006
Жыл бұрын
Didn't PAISTE do the same thing ❓
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
They did-the Spirit of 2002! 😁
@GlennWilsonDrums
Жыл бұрын
Wow man, you have that kit dialed in! Beautiful playing. Thanks for the info on the snares. Do you think the drums that cracked would have anyway? Or because of heavy playing? Fascinating. 🙏
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Glenn! What I’ve heard from industry folks is that the B20 alloy just doesn’t mesh with snare drum usage. When it gets too thick, it can be very brittle, which will ultimately always lead to cracking. Unfortunate, but still makes for a fun drum to play…until it fails. 😂
@GlennWilsonDrums
Жыл бұрын
@@timbofromkeno ha ha for sure. Paiste made some snares too right? I might have that wrong.
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
@@GlennWilsonDrums They did, but they made it out of their 2002 (B8) formula, which is very different than Zildjian's B20 formula. And I think that's why we don't hear about folks having the same issues with the Paiste drums!
@cliffordqdrum3647
Жыл бұрын
great snare wow... what title of this music?
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! For the "rock" track, I got that from a stock music website. But other stuff comes from my drumless tracks. There should be a link in the video description. : )
@michaelsikora6739
Жыл бұрын
You simply need to play harder!
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Maybe! 😂😂
@1thess523
Жыл бұрын
I was 14 yrs old in 1989
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
I wasn’t born until the end of that year! 😂👊
@djyeah-nah9781
11 ай бұрын
Nearly bought one of these for $900AU ($670US) in 2005. Wish I did.
@timbofromkeno
11 ай бұрын
Man, that would've been a steal!
@djyeah-nah9781
11 ай бұрын
How good is hindsight!
@pellepop100
9 ай бұрын
Really solid drumming!
@timbofromkeno
9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@officialMainspring
9 ай бұрын
best sound file of the mythical 6.5x14 version! awesome playing as well, which had alot to do with the sound!. Well, 400th anniversary snare is here.... for the sweet price of.... 4K!!! I had the 380th anniversary version and paid $1500. even counting in inflation. what?!!! 4K?!!! still thinking about it. 😁
@timbofromkeno
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words on the sound files! Those new 400th anniversary drums are pretty wild. There’s a lot of engineering that went into them. All the hardware is proprietary too. Worth $4,000? I’ll say this-if I had the disposable income, there’d be one in my basement right now.
@officialMainspring
9 ай бұрын
@@timbofromkeno I did a bad, bad, thing... I just ordered the 400th.,.. making up my mistake of selling the 380th. Top ramen here I come! 😁
@timbofromkeno
9 ай бұрын
@@officialMainspring hahahaha Heck yeah!
@DrDr-pg5br
Жыл бұрын
Holy cripes! You crank!
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha Thanks doc!
@JamieStrowhiro
Жыл бұрын
Oh, I hadn't considered paper towels. I usually use just a folded sheet of paper. Do you think paper towels do a better job?
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
I think they do a little bit just because they’re a little more mass and a little softer!
@JamieStrowhiro
Жыл бұрын
@@timbofromkeno Thanks! Great stuff as always. I remember drooling over the re-issue in the early 2000s. Bucket list drum!
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
@@JamieStrowhiro 1,000%!
@gadymarcus2362
Жыл бұрын
Magnifico.👑👑👑👑👑👑
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Gady! 😁😁
@strettoasino9006
Жыл бұрын
Paiste did it 1st...
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
When did they do the first run of Spirit of 2002?
@rborawski
Жыл бұрын
Whatcha got over there on your right all green and sparkly?
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Hey--good to see ya! It's a little 20-12-14 B/O badge, clear interior maple Ludwig kit from the early 70s. I gotta do a video on that!
@rborawski
Жыл бұрын
@@timbofromkeno I'll wait here...love green sparkle Luddies!
@DrummerDanny76
Жыл бұрын
Cool snare drum
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Truly!
@mcmedia2203
Жыл бұрын
That is it, dude. 👌
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
😁😁👊👊
@DannyGadish
Жыл бұрын
Oh man that’s fantastic
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Danny. This is such a special drum. I'm so glad I got a chance to hit it!
@PatrickWitherow
Жыл бұрын
Great video - thanks for making it! Always enjoy hearing your drums - they always sound 10/10 - keep it up!
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Patrick. I appreciate it!
@ianvjones
Жыл бұрын
Great playing
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian!
@stephenverbo
Жыл бұрын
sooo soo gooooodd!!
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Stephen!
@sabintarabega
Жыл бұрын
Wow! Sound good! 🥁
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
It’s a fun drum! 😁👊
@gvermont
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic drumming with a history lesson. I never knew about this snare drum. Great job!
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I truly appreciate it!
@Bobdrumbro
Жыл бұрын
killer sounding snare. but mostly because you have some great groove!
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Ah man. Thanks Bob!
@JulianFernandez
Жыл бұрын
So cool!
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jhicks8989
Жыл бұрын
I’m subscribed to lots of drum channels and this is easily my current favourite. Keep it up Timbo, you’re doing great things.
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words. More to come! 😁👊
@morrinsville23
Жыл бұрын
Hey Timbo! Whats the make of that tiger kit in the background? Is it a Hoshino?? I have a Hoshino kit that looks very similar, tiger stripe with a sparkle mixed in
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Hey GJ! That kit is from Franklin Drum Company in Minneapolis, Minnesota. I just finished editing a video about it hits morning. It'll be out the first week in May, I believe. Keep an eye out. But that finish is based on Ludwig's Lemon Strata from the 70s Standard kits. We couldn't afford to buy the 100 sheet minimum of replica wrap from Delmar, so we had a dude paint that!
@morrinsville23
Жыл бұрын
@@timbofromkeno oh wow!! Thats awesome! Ill Look forward to the video!
@adsph
Жыл бұрын
Great content Tim. Love the history lesson. This is awesome content. Keep it up.
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Chris! Thanks man. Funny enough, Tim (previously your drum guy at Music Center) has been one of the couple people helping to make these videos happen. He works with Dennis, the Turkish Cymbals USA guy, where most of the vintage pieces that aren’t mine in the videos come from. Such a small world. Hope you enjoy the rest of the weekend, my friend!
@Leartiest
Жыл бұрын
Bro that pro-tip about the paper towel in the snare wires 🤌beautiful
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
It’s so simple, but when you have three or four snares, it makes all the difference in cutting down on excess noise!
@danield2398
Жыл бұрын
NOICE!
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
😁😁👊👊
@drummerdem50
Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
😁👊
@femaledeer
9 ай бұрын
If those are cracking, the 2023 issue may also crack. Not good when paying $4,000 for it. Someone said the DW True Cast were cracking when they tried to use melted cymbals.
@timbofromkeno
9 ай бұрын
Zildjian’s engineering and product development team have stated that this batch has a totally new process that should eliminate the previous cracking issues. I’m curious to see if this process will correct the problem! DW uses a manufacturing plant in Minnesota for those shells. I’m not sure that they ever used B20. I’ll have to google that. : )
@johnnysweetly3757
Жыл бұрын
thanks for the content, tim
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
And thanks for watching. That means a lot!
@Ted_Swayinghill
Жыл бұрын
One of my teachers has one of the first runs...it was one of the first "pro snares" I got to play on when I was a smol...it definitely taught me how to play with more sensitivity.
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Isn't that drum something else?! So wild. And you definitely can get by with a MUCH lighter hand on this drum than you on other stuff. This thing is LOUD! lol
@dbsendyd
Жыл бұрын
Man! I love your playing and those drums sound awesome! I have tama slp dynamic bronze 5.5* snare, and it sounds similar to that snare.😂
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thanks dude! I really appreciate the kind words. I wrenched on one of those SLP bronze snares for a local drummer a while back. Wonderful drums!
@Max-dd4ow
Жыл бұрын
This is crazy because the other day I thought that it would be cool if I got my cymbals turned into a drum, and here we are Lol
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha Serendipitous!
@NintenDub
Жыл бұрын
How cool.i wish I had the means to experience such a piece, even for a short period
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
I've been really fortunate to try a few pieces from the incredible collection of Turkish Cymbals USA. I can't wait to share more. If you want to see if I can find something particular that you'd like to hear, please let me know!
@pfmdude
Жыл бұрын
Damn that sounds lovely. I love the perfect little bounce ping upon each snare hit. Like a 90s dodgeball sound, except the dodgeball is the size of a water tower.
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Hahahaha The most amazing analogy I’ve heard in a long time!
@metrodrumstv
Жыл бұрын
Another great show n tell Timbo! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and drumming man.
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Ah man. Thank you!! ❤️❤️❤️
@keptonhold
Жыл бұрын
This is my new favorite KZitem channel. So glad you’re doing longer videos now! 🎉
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Yo! Thank you so much for the kind words. More to come. Fingers crossed, I'm gonna keep to this once a week thing. And I might add other non-gear videos into the mix throughout the week too!
@af7119
Жыл бұрын
5:06 My new favorite pickup line at the bar.
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@JasonWelchMusic
Жыл бұрын
Amazing drum! Great playing too
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! 😁👊
@ambroulard
Жыл бұрын
Do you always Yell Speak? If so why?
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Only for the first 15-20 seconds of the video. And because it’s silly. 😂
@ArchieBC
Жыл бұрын
What a unicorn of a snare drum!
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Right??
@musiqsoundsproductions
Жыл бұрын
Designed by legend Bob Gatzen. The first run (without ribs) were prone to breaking. That is why Duluth didn’t used the actual alloy for the Paiste snares. I had Ayotte Keps in 14x6,5 and 13x7, cast bronze dw first gen 5mm in 14x6 and 13x7, and cast alu dw first and last gen in 14x5 and 10x4,5. I have to say I found the alu models the most versatile. The bronze models were a bit too heavy (the 13” weighing in at 13kg) and the Kep’s very specific with their 90’s Grunge sound.
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
DW's aluminum stuff is always great. So so good. Drumcraft did a cast aluminum snare back in the day that was incredible too. Sounds like you've got quite the collection. You're a lucky drummer! : )
@musiqsoundsproductions
Жыл бұрын
@@timbofromkeno oh if I could have kept some. But all gone to fund new gear. Love testing out new gear. Some gear stays if the finances allow it. Drumcraft had a cast bronze model too. Noble had basically the same cast alu snares (both those and the DW’s were designed by Bob too).
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
@@musiqsoundsproductions I didn't realize Bob designed the N&C stuff too. Interesting!
@joshuabreslow5694
Жыл бұрын
Love it man! Thanks bro
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Josh! Man, thank you. ❤️❤️❤️
@timokaywright7625
Жыл бұрын
Another great vid mate. I love that snare 🤤 and would almost certainly own one if i have the dollhairs. I could be wrong but i think Danny Carey uses a bell brass snare. That wide open tone suits Tool perfectly, especially when hitting rim shots with the snare turned off! 🤘
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Tim! And man, Danny has a whole brass KIT. His is called The Spirit of 2002, since it’s made from Paiste’s 2002 B12 cymbal alloy. I got a picture with the kit at NAMM in 2019!
@timokaywright7625
Жыл бұрын
@@timbofromkeno rip his drum tech 😂😂
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
@@timokaywright7625 I hope that tech has a good chiropractor! hahahaha
@opticalinch
Жыл бұрын
Great sounding snare. Would love a video on your recording set up. You have a great sound.
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I definitely need to do a video on recording. I’m hoping I can do a few more months of more exciting gear videos before I give y’all the nerdy details on that stuff! 😂👊
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
In the meantime, check out my studio tour that @malonedrum did earlier this year. Quite a bit of content that’s related to recording in that video! Cheers!!
@jdion79
Жыл бұрын
holy crap that lug system was breaking my brain... had to go back to look at the close up. super interesting design.
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
It is! And they still use that design on some of their modern drums today. I think they even make those lugs stateside still too. N&C is a pretty rad company. Worth a google!
@krusher74
Жыл бұрын
The singal nodal tube lug is about as simple as you can get, whats brain breaking about it? N&C also had disputes over it as Sonor used very similar on there hilites etc in the 90's
@jdion79
Жыл бұрын
@@krusher74 cool guy 😎
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
@@krusher74 I think it’s just that visually, it looks starkly different than your standard Ludwig or Slingerland (or generally cast) lug design. That’s all.
@quintessenceSL
Жыл бұрын
Neat drums aside, that's some groove!
@timbofromkeno
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. I really appreciate the kind words!
@quintessenceSL
Жыл бұрын
@@timbofromkeno Completely deserved. Nice ornaments on the main beat.
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