I’m fairly certain to a degree they made John and Arthur uniform in all aspects so everything fits exactly on each to avoid any surprise bugs and it being more work than they care to handle. Be mindful these are all just my personal assumptions who knows.
@Chill_Goat18
10 сағат бұрын
i do remember because i played on ps4 when it first released the game Epilogue John looked much better to bad that my pc cant handle rdr2 i havent played rdr1 but the difference is real
@BobbiyVtoma
14 сағат бұрын
Man, just 7 years of marriage make him evil skinny badass
@TheBatman10124
Күн бұрын
Great video bro
@reii842
Күн бұрын
Idk what you're about to say in this videos cause i don't want to hear someone talk as if he doesn't wanna be heard by his parents or something, but i just think this game is great
@sedseedz
Күн бұрын
Maybe if all fans pressured rockstar, they would definitely do some change
@JohnMarston-l1j
Күн бұрын
Hi
@markiv7867
2 күн бұрын
Never noticed all of this. Now it makes sense why Arthur's clothes fits perfectly on John.
@boredashell6682
2 күн бұрын
Johns hair pisses me off so goddamn much cause in the mission pictures john was shown with his 1899 hair so the devs could do it but they wont, WHY. JOHNS 1899 HAIR IS SO GODDAMN BADASS, WHY ROCKSTAR, WHY
@aplexdav6629
2 күн бұрын
This just sounds like nitpicking well the first half anyways
@biigby_
2 күн бұрын
I have no other excuse to Rockstar than that they really hate rdr2 and it's fanbase.
@ForSparta3195
2 күн бұрын
This kinda seems like nitpicking, I don’t mind John marston in rdr2 it’s the same character to me
@AirGoddess1087
3 күн бұрын
"80s disco pants." Lmao! I'm sorry, i really can't expect you to know about fashion trends from over 40 years ago, but i just feel like i really have to tell you that you were way off with that line! They're actually called bellbottom pants, and they were big in the 70s, not the 80s. But anyway, i agree that they were being lazy when it came to John's clothes and animations and movement and all that but i feel like when it came to his appearance they might have been trying to make him look more like his motion capture actor because i kind of see it when i look at him in the epologe
@TheCouch_Akio
4 күн бұрын
that's not John, that's Jim Milton
@StuwP0t
4 күн бұрын
Epilogue john is like looking at yourself in your front camera and npc john is like looking at yourself in the mirror
@CJ_GAMAING
4 күн бұрын
John Morgan 😂😂
@WheymaxxTheRebelfighter
4 күн бұрын
guys i think he looks like arthur, not gonna lie
@DogOfWar64
4 күн бұрын
I knew there was something off about his model in the epilogue but I just couldn't put the words to it. Maybe they morphed Johns model into Arthurs to prevent issues with the clothing and hats clipping or something idk
@xXrobloxpro123Xx
5 күн бұрын
rockstar try not to add minute details that really level up immersion in some places and then fail the most obvious thing challenge
@Comoisseur
5 күн бұрын
Initially I recall players referring to John's original epilogue model as 'anorexic John'. Rockstar tried to rectify things and over compensated. We didnt know how good we had it till it was taken away.
@kobold7466
5 күн бұрын
just letting you guys know that rdr2 was planned before rdr was even finished and a lot of pre planning and actual work that was being made for rdr2 was done by team members that were gone by the time of its release. a lot of content and especially end game content was done or finished by other developers. this probably included. rockstar is not the same rockstar that created gta v or previous games. literally the only guy left from the old days is the CEO, Sam Houser, and a lot of people left BECAUSE of him
@pelucheCR7
6 күн бұрын
Right about that
@that-one.cod_player115
7 күн бұрын
Beta John looks slim and not so bulky. Aurther is big and bulky.
@agirlinabasementofyourdaddy
9 күн бұрын
It is genuinely shocking to me, how much time they spent on the tiniest details in this game… like every blade of grass is in perfect detail….and then they neglected John like this… JOHN !!! Who was such a beloved character and everyone was so excited to have him back. Such a disgrace
@labelnine
9 күн бұрын
not just his body but his personality is fcked up in rdr 2 epilogue , he acts like a awkward stuttering wimp around people and cant come with any words , i dont believe its growth as character but just f up from R*
@pinkguycomments69
10 күн бұрын
Fans : "I can't wait to play as John Marston in the epilogue!" R* : "Johnthur Morgston"
@ShutUpBubi
12 күн бұрын
Its depressing how much greatness was squandered by Rockstar Games
@evan-qz4mr
13 күн бұрын
L4MENT4BLE
@Louis.7493
15 күн бұрын
the main reason i had mods was how unoriginal john was he's just arthur with a black hair with john's face put on with surgery along with his vocal cords and acts like he can't swim mods make it so you both get his animations and body shape
@Jspnj85
16 күн бұрын
I never cared because I like the epilogue so much and anyway peoples body’s change through time anyway.
@FormerlyEpicjcat
17 күн бұрын
I could never figure why you cant grow Super long hair like arthur it stays at the same level
@YamnayaSintash
17 күн бұрын
epilogue johns face is so fcking wide..
@CosyGrave
17 күн бұрын
The pettiest shit ever lmao
@juussi4318
18 күн бұрын
have you thought that maybe working his ass off in ranch and maturing could affect the way his muscles grow and how he looks more like man?
@juussi4318
18 күн бұрын
also maybe his mustache is lighter bc it hasent grown that much?
@Bugplanet8840
17 күн бұрын
Have you thought that your previous rockstar messed up and reused Arthur’s model to piss off rdr1 fans?
@Bugplanet8840
17 күн бұрын
@@juussi4318mabye he bleached his mustache because he knows he’s an imbred child of Arthur and John?
@juussi4318
18 күн бұрын
tf how can ppl actualy whine about so little things 💀
@Bugplanet8840
17 күн бұрын
This ain’t little when the Main protagonist of the series doesn’t even use his own model
@skrilla-702
18 күн бұрын
What bothered me was the hair
@Bugplanet8840
17 күн бұрын
Fr his 1.00 look is almost perfect all that’s wrong is his hair and ear placement
@skrilla-702
17 күн бұрын
@@Bugplanet8840 his hair was both sides and straight
@Cjjk3
19 күн бұрын
i never liked john's hair so don't really care abt that and the jet black hair looks far cooler and better than the brown hair. plus arthur is ripped so honestly im fine with the body type copy and pasted on john. still fucking sucks that they put so much little detail into john and his personality is a bit worse
@Kayambo974
19 күн бұрын
Btw, flared disco pants are from the 1970s
@TheParagonIsDead
20 күн бұрын
lol naw
@cardinez6848
21 күн бұрын
"If rockstar cared about their fans" i think thats a very unfair thing to say. We are talking about one of the most detalied games any of us have ever played
@kenjaeger1162
21 күн бұрын
Yes the individual developers that made all the details are great but we are talking about the overall whole company and rockstar doesnt care about their fans anymore. Just look at this video for example, if they would really care they would have updated the game and made john better but they just made him worse trough updates. Or look at red dead online
@FunnyRedemption
21 күн бұрын
They could copy paste Arthur's body for john but not John's body from the previous chapters 💀
@jaylenandfriends7531
22 күн бұрын
The must I've had sex and had a baby and named him jarthur morgston❤
@kenjaeger1162
21 күн бұрын
🤨🤨
@bruh6970
22 күн бұрын
Why would you care about it lol😂😂
@DagorAngmar
22 күн бұрын
Don't think this was made to piss anyone off... Simple last minute finishing of a game on a hurry... Sorry the for the bad English. It is what it is, I also wish they would just had the time to finish the whole game properly and made the whole players enjoy 100% the maps, the story and all . But that's what it is and either way that game is still fantastic
@fuckugplus
22 күн бұрын
Its almost like they just used Arthur models
@animalicon3535
23 күн бұрын
BROOOOOOO Scarface please talk about the rdr1 prestige/legendary mounts they didn’t add in rdr2😭 god it hurts how special rdr1 was The gang hideouts too… like wtf dude made them worth doing for Mauser pistol at twin rocks or lemat 2 shot revolver at fort Mercer hideout… RUINED PVP by not being able to see paPl on THE MAP UNLESS THEY ARE CLOSE!??!??? WTAH THE FCK IS THAT Like Elden ring ruined invasions dude… PVP wise like WTF but that’s so stupid PVP is essential… sigh nothing like S+++++++++++++ tier rdr1 online
@Shigglez123
24 күн бұрын
no wonder, It just felt like I'm playing Arthur 2.0, I tried to make him look like him uk with just haircut and beard trim it still made me feel like nah he still doesn't look like Marston. Although, I won't be altering that with mods, it kinda just 'makes sense' why it felt weird playing as John in the epilogue...
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