This sounds like a 40k podcast. Saying that units arent worth their points is a very competitive 40k mindset. Please leave heresy to rule of cool and go back to 40k plz
@hammersanddice
4 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! Our intention has never been to approach heresy with a 40k mindeset. We have spoken quite a bit in our episodes about specifically making an effort to avoid playing with more 'gamey' lists so that heresy games feel more fun than competitive. In this episode, we spoke about points within the context of reviewing the ups and the downs of this edition of the game. There are units across the legions that are at a similar power level, but the points it costs for those units vary drastically in some instances. I think it's fair to say that there can be some disappointment in a game when a 'rule of cool' unit gets crushed by a unit that's almost half the points. Our point was that in the future we'd love to see a points adjustment so that people aren't punished quite so much for taking some of those units.
@fenris6051
12 сағат бұрын
I don't get why people complain about new versions of games, if you don't want to play 3.0 for example find other players willing to play 2.0, just because a new edition is released doesn't mean you are forced to get it. I am still building 1-3 ed. 40k armies, have very little interest in the last 2-3 versions of 40k, so I don't waste time on painting models I'm not interested in nor waste money on rules for something I don't want to play.
@hammersanddice
4 сағат бұрын
Totally fair! We hope that if/when a new edition comes out, the ruleset won't go the way of the recent 40k editions, if it does, I think a lot of us would rather stick to the 2.0 rules.
@paulyg405
5 күн бұрын
Reactions are great, they're an awesome addition to the game overall. I think the easiest way to smooth the rough edges off them without adding bloat or too much bookkeeping would be to make all shooting reactions snap shots. Interceptor, return fire and overwatch. Might also have a side effect of making some of the lesser used multi shot heavy weapons, and flamers more attractive? People would likely start taking more augury scanners but I'm cool with that, you're paying points to snap shoot, if you get lucky great, but the game overall wouldn't feel so weighted towards shooting and it would give tanks a leg up as well
@paulyg405
5 күн бұрын
hey guys, enjoying the podcast! TBH I think it's very unlikely there'd be a major new edition of Heresy, invalidating all the books everyone just bought would push people away. Maybe like the shift from 3rd to 4th edition, or even less than that, more like a big FAQ and a new book with that incorporated, for people who don't wanna carry a big FAQ around with their old book. Points values and legion rules is where it gets tricky.. opens up a broader chat about how a living ruleset should be managed. I'd rather get a PDF with the new points and wait for Battlescribe to be updated than buy a new liber book and I reckon most people would feel the same.
@hammersanddice
5 күн бұрын
We agree! We've heard some rumors, but yeah, we're hoping that it's a big FAQ with points adjustments rather than full new books. Either way, I think we'll have at least another year or so of the current edition.
@paulyg405
5 күн бұрын
@@hammersanddice for sure, I think some ppl commentating in the community probably overstate where Heresy is at for GW, I'm sure it's making a fat profit but that doesn't mean they've got the time or the budget to start cranking out new editions every 3 years!
@redcorsair14
2 ай бұрын
The command squads can be easily converted. Im looking at one as an escort for Sevetar in my Night Lords. 3D Printers are a pretty common thing these days as well. Can also be used as a cheaper Dark Angels Companion squad, two shields and then everyone else with Calibanite warblades. In my area and other areas from what I have seen we have limited the shooting reactions to "One shooting type reaction per unit per turn." Includes free auspex intercepts. Allows for more varied armies and Rites of War and makes sense because a unit has to stop and reload at some point and shouldnt shoot more in their opponent's turn than your opponent can. I have noticed that many groups are banning or limiting lascannon heavy support squads or their legion specific equivalents. Everything from dont bring one, 0-1 max or no more than 5 guys. I know in casual games bringing a 10 man squad is looked down on as a dick move in the same manner as spamming dreadnoughts or more than one Scorpius.
@hammersanddice
2 ай бұрын
That's a good house rule! We'd love to see GW do an FAQ to fix a few of the more crazy broken rules. We're planning on doing a discussion on how to self moderate lists for casual games and events for our next episode!
@davidduquette2329
2 ай бұрын
I had no idea you could models into a transport. That does have interesting implications.
@davidduquette2329
2 ай бұрын
I think the shield on little Horus was intended for pairing him with a chieftain squad.
@hammersanddice
2 ай бұрын
That would be cool! Hopefully that means we'll get an update on the rules for the cheiftian squad, right now they have normal boarding shields, so they're heavy, but Little Horus isn't.
@bigjoeflo
3 ай бұрын
Hibou's death is not in any books. It's actually stated in Little Horus that he fought his way through the Sons and was placed on a list of names to be hunted down.
@hammersanddice
3 ай бұрын
Good catch!
@tinyfishhobby3138
3 ай бұрын
Reed! How’s the Salamanders army? I’m the Alpha Legion guy who used to do the monthly HH game days at Giga-bites.
@sonoftheforge
3 ай бұрын
Hey Michael! Thanks for watching our video, I remember our games fondly back in the day! I still follow you on IG and your Alphas look awesome and still growing.
@tinyfishhobby3138
3 ай бұрын
@@sonoftheforge Cheers. Never gonna stop growing that army 😬
@volcano3493
3 ай бұрын
A new HH podcast? Subscribed.
@hammersanddice
3 ай бұрын
Thanks!!
@rhysanderson4639
3 ай бұрын
Always wanted to get into the Horus Heresy (mostly for the painting cause never played before) but want to do proper grim dark style 🤔 For Mortarion DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR !
@hammersanddice
3 ай бұрын
For sure! Grim dark is one of the best parts of the heresy! Gotta get in that grime for good ole Morty
@MayhapsOmegon
3 ай бұрын
Comments for the Throne of Algorithms.
@hammersanddice
3 ай бұрын
The Algorithm protects!
@davidduquette2329
3 ай бұрын
The battle for Beta Garmon event was a ton of fun. 10/10 will run Night Lords tanks again.
@hammersanddice
3 ай бұрын
Looking forward to seeing your Night Lords again at the next one!
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