I am curious about the last journals that Ted burned. All he implied was that she was ...err.....like so far gone beyond help. Its that we truly will never know what she said
@yiquanawalkb4run26
28 күн бұрын
Frieda, you speak volumes for your mother and father, beautiful woman, exemplary, may it please Allah to say so
@Sylvie3273
28 күн бұрын
They were all looking for a saviour, a hero, in him, as we all search for: but he was only a shell of a human being, a poseur, a failure , a leech.
@isbelle100
Ай бұрын
Frieda Hughes just had the "chance" to hear Her Father's version", experience, etc, not her mother's!! Lets keep that in mind! She had that view...we' ll never know What was in Sylvia Plath's mind in spiite of all her poems, journals, letters, etc, biographies. Her Legacy is Linked to Hughes and Viceversa, as "artists". Why so little is dealth with the tragic end too of their son, who also committed suicide😢❤
@blackbird5634
Ай бұрын
Do yourself a favor and read "The Madness of Spies'' a New Yorker article written by Le Carre in 2008. It details his first real awakenings into the secret services in 1952 and the convoluted, swallowing-one's-own-tail of intelligence workers in that era. People construct intricate webs of deceit and become lost in them. Eventually their minds are their own worst enemies.
@isbelle100
Ай бұрын
Poetry has been too long under patriarchal gaze!! The Eternity will Be Yours Plath. They both influenced each orher: English vs American Culture❤❤
@8angst8
Ай бұрын
Sick to death of academic terms like "patriarchal." The best poems rise to public awareness despite any academic attempts to promote them.
@christinespencer6933
Ай бұрын
The world was very different back then and it’s difficult to judge peoples’ actions then from the current standpoint of information on mental illness and living conditions etc prevailing at that time. They were both passionate people, passion is suffering, it drives an artists struggle to put form on something that is forcing its way out and is very destructive if blocked. They were both artists in the grip of this and responded in different ways, no one was there so no one truly knows what happened between them. This documentary was made nearly 10 years ago so the speakers are from a different time, a different generation with different attitudes dating from the middle of the last century, so although you may not agree with them think how people will regard this generations attitudes 50-70 years in the future.
@MSP-w8r
Ай бұрын
Thank you for this documentary! It is a gem for us lovers of poetry and source of inspiration.
@pepescat6541
2 ай бұрын
Ted Hughes poetry is an ideology of a wild animal who preyed on its victims. He was the predator
@pepescat6541
2 ай бұрын
What about mentioning her "miscarriage"? And the taunt of killing herself to have his daughter and the house? The truth is out there
@8angst8
Ай бұрын
Plath's miscarriage came about right after she'd destroyed his family-heirloom table and methodically torn up all of his written work. Why? Because he was late getting home from his BBC job interview. They got in a fight (understandably so) after his return home. Their marriage went downhill after this.
@catherinebourke1466
2 ай бұрын
Yikes. Some of the commentary has aged like milk.
@JCPJCPJCP
3 ай бұрын
Robin Morgan is, apparently, a lousy poetess.
@junetakesover
4 ай бұрын
interesting how they both used each other to reach their ambition: to become poets. and of course becoming a poet means becoming an archetype, to transcend being a person, to belong to people as a collective idea, a collective image. but when the collective themselves take control of the creation of the myth and turn him into "evil husband", they don't like it. lol his daugthter even seems hurt and offended by it: 01:06:09 she clearly didn't understand that the problem in that moment was that the power of myth making was taken from ted hughes hands by the very collective he was inscribing himself in. as for him, with all that interest in magic, anthropology and myth he understood it very well ...... just probably didn't like the feeling of losing power over the narrative. truth is if you're trying to become an archetype and you succeed there is no switch. you can't just shut off being an archeype to become a person again when it interests you.
@DSmith-mg6ui
4 ай бұрын
People should read his "The Dogs Are Eating Your Mother", in Birthday Letters, in which he likens his feminist critics to "hyenas" fattening on Sylvia's corpse. A brilliant and very to-the-point demolition job.
@MrsRichardDalloway
22 күн бұрын
Complete projection on his part. It was Ted and Olwyn and Ted's second wife who fed and fattened on Sylvia's corpse. Even this documentary admits that they all lived on royalties and permissions and movie rights to Sylvia's work.
@DSmith-mg6ui
22 күн бұрын
@@MrsRichardDalloway And rightly so. That made up for the loss of income he had gotten from his readings because of all the pandemonium feminists created in the audience.
@MrsRichardDalloway
21 күн бұрын
@@DSmith-mg6ui Hughes got heckled from time to time, but if he shrank away from readings because of an occasional confrontation, that’s pretty cowardly of him. He did express guilt and regret about how he treated Plath to a number of people who knew him. “It doesn’t fall to many men to murder a genius,” he told one.
@DSmith-mg6ui
20 күн бұрын
@@MrsRichardDalloway There were threats of violence issued against Hughes. There was a widespread rumor that a band of lesbians was going to kill him if he returned to the United States. So he never came back, not once, for many years before his death. Hilarious to see women who seemed so earnest about it back then now backtracking and saying they didn’t mean it, like Morgan in this video. Perhaps they know that in an English court, where libel is much easier to prove than in the States, the statute of limitations for malicious acts leading to loss of income runs much longer than here too, and Frieda, who publicly loathes these women, could get it going again any time? “Who knows?"
@DSmith-mg6ui
9 күн бұрын
@@MrsRichardDalloway Hughes in fact was subjected to death threats. Also in Birthday Letters, people should read, “The Other”, which is addressed directly to the American feminist poet who started the whole bandwagon against him and her jealousy of Plath.
@leevww
5 ай бұрын
Just a serial adulterer. left a legacy of being a useless man and a complete bastard...
@Johnconno
7 ай бұрын
These celibate academics think he's Byron, Burton and Heath cliffe...
@oddysysorry
8 ай бұрын
i recently finished reading my copy of birthday leters...and to be honest, its not a good bood. its too long and over indulgent.
@jimnewcombe7584
4 ай бұрын
It's just plain bad writing as well. His penultimate book Tales from Ovid is far better.
@8angst8
Ай бұрын
That's not the point of "Birthday Letters." The point is, he left a poetic memory to her right before his death.
@oddysysorry
Ай бұрын
@@jimnewcombe7584 you're right , i still think its a bit long but much much better, and more interesting
@oddysysorry
Ай бұрын
@@8angst8 i dont know what to say to you, other than his poetic memory was trash, you can go and read it and love it, i will never read it again
@areohbee343
8 ай бұрын
What happened to Carol Orchard? Did Ted also kill her? Did she kill him? Why can I find no information about her on Google or Reddit?
@carlosdepaulo8580
8 ай бұрын
He was a good poet, but Plath achieved, by her own unique merits (far above and beyond Hughes' boring and presumptuous male poetry), a worldwide status that he could only have dreamt about. Clearly a womanizer, an immature, an overpraised white straight male. Of course, he won the Pulitzer (Snodgrass, Lowell, Berryman... Sexton - all these confessional ports did it too) - but that is too little for the (extremely) high account in which he had himself. RIP.
@oddysysorry
10 ай бұрын
I am beyond happen this is back, I was so angry it was taken down. Now I can watch it again every single day like I did before
@FrancieMoon9
Жыл бұрын
Frieda is adorable. I love her story about her parents being on her syllabus for school!
@bobsgirl100
Жыл бұрын
Well who else was gonna get her work out? Asia was very very mentally ill before her suicide.
@GrumpyYank26
Жыл бұрын
fabulous. melvyn Bragg and Cornwell are a great match.
@MatinaLiosi-o3d
Жыл бұрын
❤
@matthewfarmer2520
Жыл бұрын
I was at a book sale this padt Friday in August at the historic locust Grove and got just one of his books for $2.00 and some DVDs to add to my collection lol. The Russian House 1989 📖
@CitrineDream
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this!
@ThomasWilkinsont
Жыл бұрын
The thought fox from 13:09 to 17:00
@frugalwitch
Жыл бұрын
Sylvia and Assia and his daughter Shura’s deaths
@tamanpemikir6646
Жыл бұрын
I really appreciated listening to this interview, but for reasons that are probably rather unusual. I have lately become interested in how great creative figures got involved in doing deep cognitive work, and how they arranged their lives in order to do that work. It has seemed natural to me to study writers as one kind of creative cognitive workers. I am glad that the interviewer here asked le Carre lots of questions about how he became a writer and how he arranged his life in order to devote himself to writing. I had been afraid that the interviewer would focus mainly on John le Carre's involvement in and knowledge of the spy world, but thankfully he touched it only in passing. On the other hand, I learned a lot about the creative process from listening to this interview. Would that there were more interviews like it!
@wolves7655
Жыл бұрын
What I find puzzling about this interesting interview is that it is briefly intersperced with visual clips of Sir Alec Guiness as George Smiley from the series Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. This programme was shown in September 1977 but the tv series was first broadcast two years later.
@luckyswine
Жыл бұрын
Le Carre is frequently typed INTP in mbti but I see INFJ with Te polr here. No sense of direction, social watcher, moral critic of institutions, verbal gift for precision and economy, socially warm, vain, intensely private.
@HaFannyHa
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading this brilliant programme!
@velocitygirl8551
2 жыл бұрын
Frieda has the most beautiful arms 💪
@velocitygirl8551
2 жыл бұрын
He beat her so that she miscarried her first child … I wouldn’t say he was NICE to her. Smh.
@mrdarren1045
2 жыл бұрын
And you can prove that can you?
@wudima1444
2 жыл бұрын
I hate this son,fun
@annieterniak1799
2 жыл бұрын
Hughes's voice sounds like it comes out of a horror movie.
@constancewalsh3646
2 жыл бұрын
How things happen. Sylvia Plath's"Unabridged Journals" bought on impulse in an antique shop. Random reading in the car. No, too heavy. Put in give-away pile. Pluck it back weeks later. Open at random to the page of her first meeting with Hughes. The headband was red, she writes; not blue, as he wrote - poet's license! It's Saturday morning in the California desert, cold wind. I read and read and now it's too late to turn back. Discover "Stronger than Death." The very manna I seek and rarely find. Such gratitude for this, thank you from the depths. The depths... shadows of death, where ever fewer visit by intent and are doomed instead to live it. This man and this woman were equals, and they were the product of their times. Neither fully aware that, bound as we may be to one another, we are solely responsible for our lives and our emotional states. Neither fully aware that the edicts of love are made up by the culture, against which creativity and co-dependency will will kick and suffer. Blame is as ignorant and hideous as the accusatory poem shot at Ted Hughes - hearing it wrenched me, that my sisters should hate a man so. Always three fingers pointing back to the accuser, it's the higher law. I am a conscious woman who would be a masculinist as well as a feminist in truer terms. Both Sylvia Plath and Ted Hughes were tremendous souls who gave their lives to poetry because they could not be otherwise, and in doing so, to the culture and to the world. Big souls are never victims.
@quantumfineartsandfossils2152
2 жыл бұрын
"monster daddy's beguiling evil" wow yes the prey for genius predators of predators the monster daddy's bitch criminal cronies? days are numbered we will let them prey on eachother and cannibalize with 0 culpability they dont need us around
@spritualelitist665
2 жыл бұрын
Something extremely Pagan about Teds work. I've read a lot of occult writings and traditionalist writing, people like Evola and Jung. He must of been influenced by that stuff because it seems a constant theme throughout his writings. An ultra paganist feel about it. Very English. He's like a English Mystic the same way Yeats was an Irish Mystic.
@supergrahamg
2 жыл бұрын
yes, quite possibly; however, shame about the Shakespeare motherlode obsession, akin to Yeats' pre-occupation with the occult. I believe half a dozen of Hughes' poems are remarkable, will stand the test of time. I salute you, Ted, valediction inscribed in granite gold leaf, on Dartmoor....a fitting epitaph in my opinion
@marietjieluyt7619
2 жыл бұрын
What a hairstyle. That was then.
@mrminer071166
2 жыл бұрын
Two women killing themselves . . . looks like carelessness!
@gaganamanjunath732
2 жыл бұрын
Carelessness of who?
@mrminer071166
2 жыл бұрын
@@gaganamanjunath732 Thelma and Louise; Oscar Wilde. If you don't get those two references, my comment is not for you.
@marinaloulli3452
2 жыл бұрын
I’m in heaven with this documentary, to see all the poets I’ve read myself raw with talking.
@21stCen
2 жыл бұрын
What a lovely comment! Much appreciated
@Edameda_mmori
2 жыл бұрын
what is this documentary about?
@Sleepflowrr
2 жыл бұрын
I suggest this podcast of 2 kzitem.info/news/bejne/oph8zmeJsH-Aano he was a monster
@enzojasper632
2 жыл бұрын
ted hugnes was a real crazy asshole who only cared about himself
@AnnabelleCharrier
2 жыл бұрын
Do they ever get around to mentioning the poem he wrote celebrating the wedding of Prince Andrew and Fergie? That one made him a laughing stock. Okay, okay, I'm being a nasty bitch but I'm not a fan of Hughes. Strangely, you can get away with saying just about anything about Plath. Hughes is such a sacred cow. Sorry, people.
@mark-jensbarton8363
2 жыл бұрын
Every artist gets to have a bad work or two
@AnnabelleCharrier
2 жыл бұрын
@@mark-jensbarton8363 You're right. Sorry.
@anushreerao8807
3 жыл бұрын
i wonder how he lived all these years, with all that guilt
@veronicawelsh5313
3 жыл бұрын
Narcissist! Evil Narcissist! Why can't people see this. He needs cancelling!
@aurorastorm9842
2 жыл бұрын
He does not need cancellation myopia becomes you . He was a force of Nature . Free Speech means exactly that.
@mrdarren1045
2 жыл бұрын
Woke morons who talk about cancelling ppl need cancelling. They are the death of free speech.
@pianobanter
2 жыл бұрын
Cancelling? Evil? Don't be ludicrous. What a bland, sanitised, stagnant world you would want to live in. Besides, some of the worst works of art ever created has been made by very nice people.
@calliopeclaire1699
2 жыл бұрын
1000%
@helenturner4506
3 жыл бұрын
This was lost (to the public) for so long, I rejoiced to see it back again. From the BBC I used to love, but which sold its soul and betrayed us.
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