I am listening to this panel. Where is the Holy Spirit in all of this God does command us judge one another but love one another God did command the church to shut down if Jesus where hear he would be ashamed of the leaders who are seperating his house everyone has an opion but biblical character pray for your support him in good and bad hold him accountable the world is looking at this and the facts that the accuser are airing there laundry before the world is sin God will judge the leaders and accusers for causing division in his house
@Dana-hd8he
14 күн бұрын
To the panel of men. What about the Blog Article: "How IHOP made me hate God" by Caris Adele? What about "Coming Out Alive" by Beth Cavete? Blog: greycoats and those articles
@dashlamb9318
18 күн бұрын
How can these people be so stupid?
@dashlamb9318
18 күн бұрын
Mike Bickle does not have friends. He only has "VICTIMS."
@Catherine-bo8lb
20 күн бұрын
MORMONISM Behavior, Deviant sexual predator abuse and LIES and COVER-UP so was Mike Bickle and crew Mormon do you even know who funded him and founded him and put him in play? Thessalonians 2:9-11! So is Mike Bickle and his crew Mormon does anybody know? And the no accountability when you cannot contact leaders then when there is no contact information there is no phone numbers on a church then are you part of the same culture rat pack of teaching "doctrine of demons and devils of men" that's a quote and also you they always say Mike knew the Bible but he did not live it none of them do! Give me a church and a leadership that has lived James 1:27 and Psalm 68:5 and Galatians 6:2 and 1st Corinthians 13 and Matthew 22 36-40 Matthew 25:31 to the end, The Golden Rule The Sermon on the Mount, the Beatitudes, The Lord's Prayer, The Ten Commandments and the first Two greatest Commandments give me a church leadership that will go through the Bible completely once in a year or two?
@fonhollohan2908
22 күн бұрын
That's why it's so so important that the body of Christ not put men or leaders of any kind upon pedestals whoever they maybe. When we do we make men out to become almost infalible. Then we set ourselves up for hurt. I was involved with a ministry whos leader who moved from the USA to Canada as a missionary. He arrived at church and ministered and the holy Ghost really moved in that Church. He then started several churches, and then later become affiliated with other churches. He started a Bible College and had a huge Camp in our area. Yet, when he talked of his ministry he exaggerated the size of his ministry and impact it had upon our region and to be truthful that bothered me, Many of those under his leadership treated him like he was a god. As a result everyone around him were yes men and yes women. It was unhealthy environment after a while. Even though it was unacceptable it was never really addressed. My wife and I had trouble with much of what we saw, long story short we did separated ourselves from the ministry. I look back and I'm often reminded of the importance of reading God's word for ourselves. Not to rely upon ministries unless you see good fruit and make sure that the fruit aligns with Scripture more than anything else.
@AltaEdwards
23 күн бұрын
then they say christians cannot have demons oh my goodness what a lie, this is a lesson to the body of Christ to see the extent that satan would go to to do his evil works when people are playing church and not being the church these big organisations are about money power and authority and this is what Yeshua had to resist in the wilderness.
@AltaEdwards
23 күн бұрын
it is called witchcraft and idol worship funny that everyone heard something and this is a lack of discernment in the body of Christ and it was then allowed to continue and everyone that was part of the leadership is responsible and making this man a spiritual Father the word says call no man Father but Father in heaven he manipulated all the leadership and they worshipped this man that is how it was allowed to flourish in this movement
@user-bk3wo9ib4h
25 күн бұрын
sorry, but they knew too much for too long, complicity must now be considered
@jessieg4901
25 күн бұрын
When will there be more videos from you guys??!
@Dana-hd8he
26 күн бұрын
STARTED CORRECTING 1998 HARDCORE, took him World Wide News..Mike Bickle how far back people corrected him? WELL (deep subject) for everyone who was in the fight Mike PROVED YOU ALL RIGHT! How very sad. NEVER RESTORE psychopath and sociopath! NOT A PASTOR, not a true True Shepherd. NO BIBLE, if the foundations are destroyed what will the righteous do? Not to mention the families and lives destroyed and or dead! Galatians 6:2, The Golden Rule, The 2nd Greatest Commandments, Matthew 22:36-40; Matthew 25:31-end. I Corthithans 13, NO FRUIT of James 1:27, Psalms 68:5! Sermon on the Mount, Beatitudes The Lords Prayer Ten Commandments and 2 Greatest Commandments.
@Dana-hd8he
26 күн бұрын
WHAT WAS MIKE'S FRUIT ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE?
@Dana-hd8he
26 күн бұрын
Mike Bickle isn't gonna repent because he's a New Age Mysticism (witchcraft) satanist. You all got played; your time and hard earned money went to build his Kingdom of Real Estate, Bank Accounts and all expenses paid with lifestyle that your hard earned time/money paid for and you paid for him to be in Sin! Anybody tied in with Bickle, Joyner, Johnson etc., that was why no foundations in it on the word=BIBLE! The people weren't Judging fruit. PEOPLE violated Ten Commandments replacing God with Mike. Violating John 14:25-26 also. How many years in ministry?How much money did he take in where to go? Who has it did he live James 1:27, Psalms 68:5, Galatians 6:2, 1 Corinthians 13, Matthew 22:36-40, The Golden Rule, Sermon on the Mount, Beatitudes, Ten Commandments, The Lord's Prayer. NO FRUIT. All the Molech and Baal worship and lies & deception which the occult hides sin, occult lives in darkness, occult doesn't live in truth and the occult sweeps sin under the carpet! There you go! Satanist funding church's folks and laughing all the way to the Bank Because we are not reading our Bibles, researching a matter, having a fasted and prayed up lifestyle & judging fruit! And the ones who are discerning and confronting.There is no repentance and no change! The report church abuse list was created for Mike Bickle, Rick Joyner, Vineyard, Foursquare, "Assassins of their god", Smith Sr. etc. those in SIN & spiritual abuse to NO avail!
@sherrydickson7692
26 күн бұрын
I affirm you all for standing up for righteousness. That is so rare these days - thank you! All that you have discussed is important and should be brought up. I am very grateful to you all. But I am staggered that not one of you men have discussed the fact that a child was offended in this situation - that it’s all about that rather than the reputation of the church & Mike’s eternal salvation. Are we going to stand up for our children? What do you think will happen to our natural increase if we cannot even discuss that this was child abuse, and that Mike is a child predator!! He is a pedophile!!! Do you even care about the youngest member that he abused??? I do not hear that in your communication. Who knows how many other children he may also have abused???!! The abuse he so skillfully administered, has affected that child’s life forever! Since I’m a woman who was abused, and the mother of a daughter who was abused, I understand that - unlike you men who seem to be blind to the real damage that Mike proliferates. Mike should be gently reconciled to his Lord in a jail cell.
@Melowdee
28 күн бұрын
Just sounds like a cult. I don't think any man or in fact anybody should have that much power over you, even if they claim to be 'Men of God'. Much wisdom is needed today. The modern day 'church' has much to answer for.
@user-bk3wo9ib4h
28 күн бұрын
sorry but these advocates knew too much for too long ..... complicit...... hello
@kristenclark1207
Ай бұрын
Poor Misty
@user-go3zv2qx3f
Ай бұрын
I really believe Mike needs his butt kicked into next week, knuckle wisdom is what he needs
@angelasparkes7625
Ай бұрын
It perhaps may help to study John and Paula Sandford's books on "slumbering spirit" and "imprisoned spirit" called "Healing the Wounded Spirit". As you will know they were pioneers of inner healing and the prophetic movement in the USA. This may give understanding, knowledge & guidance at this stressful time in your church love Angela 🇦🇺 ❤️ ❤️
@angelasparkes7625
Ай бұрын
Derek Prince always taught wherever there is manipulation, control, coercion etc one thing underlying this is a witchcraft spirit. Sexual predators who abuse others can very rarely admit, even to themselves that they are lying. This is very common behaviour for sexual abusers. It would be necessary to have Mike Bickle examined by psychiatrists or psychologists to determine what is going on with him. Wickedness and sin is another way of examining this behaviour stated by the group here. God is light and in Him is no darkness at all 1John
@rosewhitney7052
Ай бұрын
So disappointing. Prayers to IHOP, leaders, victims...
@frankierebekah
Ай бұрын
These 3 men embodies integrity & godliness!! These should be men like this in leadership at every church. I hear there hearts. I can’t believe what Mike Bickle did I know he was friends with my former pastor & preached at the church. The cheating was shocking but the insistent lying of using prophesy is unfathomable.
@user-bk3wo9ib4h
28 күн бұрын
yeah, but the word complicit is tattooed on their foreheads ,,,, i am sorry, but they were there too damn long not to be to some degree
@myparallaxview
Ай бұрын
I've been listening to a lot of this - it appears to me that bickle is completely demon possessed. It seems to me that no mere mortal can do this much damage to this many people. Everyone needs to come face to face with being hornswoggled for so many years by such a thoroughly demonic person.
@hands-to-work1601
Ай бұрын
The sad truth remains that true, biblical restoration out of completely broken situations like these is rarely done. It could be a learning moment for the church as a whole.
@militantnormal428
Ай бұрын
This is crazy to hear! This is cultish like behavior and manipulation!
@Stacy_KP
Ай бұрын
Thank you
@CoachRebeccaSaxon
Ай бұрын
As a new Christian, I thank you for being Godly men and restoring my faith. I've been learning to keep my eyes on Jesus. I'm learning to discern by using the fruits of the Spirit as my guidepost. Christian or not, do they bear fruit? I deepen in HIS love and surrender more every day so that I may be an example of gentleness, patience, love, kindness and self-control. Thank you for giving me hope in us as a body, with this discussion.
@condoguy710
Ай бұрын
This was a cult . All of them have been under demon control for years . Hello!
@lisafriesen9085
Ай бұрын
Shouldn’t we question the deception that occurs when elders believe their “spiritual father” is a human being, and not The Word. John 1:1 &2 says “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” 2 Peter talks about the rise of false prophets. Deception has been foretold as the earmark of the end of the end times. These men do humble themselves before those of us who are born again believers. I pray elders seek the gift of discernment and courage to move forward. When the Robert morris deception came out, the first thing I did was to pray for not only him and his family, but for the victims and their families, Gateway church family, and all followers of Christ. Thank God that these men finally saw the light and addressed it. Hopefully, they will lead other churches dealing with such depravity. What an example of what the ways of the world, the lust of the flesh, and the power of Satan to cloud the minds and hearts of elders!
@lisapatrino7405
Ай бұрын
There's only ONE SPIRITUAL FATHER, WHAT SHAME.
Ай бұрын
As a Korean Christian who saw a lot of influence on Korean church by IHOPKC, it's taking a lot to process all this. One thing I know for sure now is that I feel grateful for these guys who are standing up for the victims and trying their best to expose the truth with care and wisdom.
@teresarodriguez821
Ай бұрын
Although I never agreed with the NAR movement or support it's false teachings these men were manipulated and deceived. Deception runs rampant in the American churches not just the Pentecostal's and Charismatic churches it's in every church and deceptive doctrines are in the majority of churches today.
@teresarodriguez821
Ай бұрын
Unlike "In it to win" channel that only focused on bashing the leadership it's clear in this video that these leaders did try every step to bring Mike Bickle to repentance and bring the evidence and facts to front and only handle this with biblical integrity.
@MyLifeRefining
2 ай бұрын
It’s bazaar how easily we as the Christian community put someone in a worshipful place. Even King David acted in sexual corruption then murder to cover it up. NO. BODY. Is above it.
@fionacroney8663
2 ай бұрын
Thank you Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit for shining Your light. Thank You Father that Your word is true and You are not a man that You can lie. I pray You hold those responsible, accountable and Your will be done regarding the ministry. I pray protection and healing for those who are harmed, may they grow in Your wisdom, knowledge and understanding. Thank You Father for Your faithfulness, truth and righteousness and protect us all from the spirit of witchcraft. Help us to seek truth in Your righteousness and not fall fowl to gossip. In Jesus name. Amen.🌹
@ingridblagrove9044
2 ай бұрын
All mi know is dat, God is shaking the body of Christ, Separating the sheep from the goat, and give those a chance to repent or perish. So mi dearest bredas and sistas, choose this day who you shall serve, God or flesh? If God? Choose him and life. If a flesh you know dat only reap corruption, so a death. Judgment has set 🪒🪒
@donnaleveron5711
2 ай бұрын
Disgusting!
@jolandabasson6248
2 ай бұрын
I hear you I see your trauma Your shock The mess you are in This great dissapointment in your spiritual father. I am sooo sorry. I validate your pain. You are on the right track By coming forward Sharing your story Collectively Recovery will come Its possible May you find comfort And safety as you process your pain. May wisdom guide you on your yourney of healing and restoration❤️🩹
@williamguthrie2530
2 ай бұрын
Bad theology produces bad behavior… christian cults are generally the result. Nothing but brokenness comes of Apostolic Reformation theology…
@bravotwozero8119
2 ай бұрын
How did the ELT miss the double life and hypocrisy of Bickle for two decades? The victims tell a different story of how useless the ELT members were in addressing this issue.
@lucia7546
2 ай бұрын
MB chose his entourage/ leaders....so i listen with scepticism! A leader should be a servant of God and the ppl out of his own relationship with the Lord...not man! They all served MB and the movement and so they got in this mess!
@frankregg9048
2 ай бұрын
Let’s quickly cut ties with mike. 👍
@frankregg9048
2 ай бұрын
Anyone who doesn’t know about what NAR stands for, I encourage you to find out. This false movement is of the devil, especially during last days. Get back to the Word of God and cut ties with all these none sense regarding apostolic prophetic dream vision heaven visitation garbage, if you wanna enter by the narrow gate.
@UED_DuGalle
2 ай бұрын
God who condones these kinds of crimes is not worth believing.
@elohisaroeh652
2 ай бұрын
Charisma can be a demonic quality! When men have not tamed their 'sexual urge' by placing it in perspective unfortunately this is the result. Men should not be leaders and the reason is because most of them are addicted to their sexual urge. Monks in the East spend entire lifetimes 'undoing' this which require very strict practices and some still do not succeed. Most Christian men have to rely on God's word and they never practice in order to 'tame' this 'passion'. And when one has so much power, influence and adoration it's easy to cross the line because ultimately sexual energy dominates most men. He is not the only man, and will not be the last. The issue as well is that young women are immature and easy targets most eventually end up somewhere along the way wanting to 'belong' inside that circle of power so even though they say it's not consensual there is an element of 'fascination' that I believe attracts these women or people in general to follow these charismatic deceivers. My point is that the deception is on both sides. The perpetrator and the so called victims. 14, 15 or 18 year old may be vulnerable however they are not 'unconscious' there is a subtle level of awareness there and unfortunately without sounding as if I am blaming anyone I would suggest that at 14 you are aware of your actions regardless. I remember I had my first kiss at 13 he was 23, I liked him and I was very much in agreement about the experience. I sought out the experience consciously and I enjoyed the experience. It never progressed but I can say without doubt that at 13 14 or 15 you are no longer a child, you have faculty and that faculty has to be exercised. I am not saying this man is innocent but I also believe that if he managed to manipulate is also because the women were either naive or willing to seek his attention and adoration. I am not sure if there was RAPE involved, it sounds there was 'grooming' then again as I said the issue is multifold. These two women are given a clear picture that women were bamboozled by his charisma, fame, influence and power. No different today when observing young girls at concerts. If you asked any young girl if she had an opportunity to kiss or be with their IDOL would they do it the answer would probably be yes! And some of them are as young as 11 or 12. So where do we draw the line here?? Responsibility must be placed on both sides. I am not sure what this man is doing now but his books are full of wisdom and I will continue to read them as they are edifying. With regards to his character and flaws, I say I hope he is sorting that out with YHWH as it is definitely a business between him and the Lord and he should repent if he has not already done so. I also hope the women/girl repent for idolising a man and not YHWH and YESHUA, God lifts men and brings them down, ultimately it is all in the 'character' nothing escapes HIM who is ever loving and present. In the end if this man has repented before the Lord and has humbled himself all these videos, interview, slandering, exposing, are all null and void for he has been forgiven and redeemed in the Grace of God. Amen
@ogonzalesj1984
2 ай бұрын
“God’s people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.” Don’t rely on anyone to teach you God’s word! Read it for yourself. “Cursed is the man who trusts in man.”
@pedinurse1
2 ай бұрын
What don't understand from all of these wonderful men, and various videos I have watched is this, no one talks about how this horrendous CRIME was committed various times, and what to do about that and what about reporting it to the authorities. I just cannot understand why this crime against women is not reported to the police??
Ай бұрын
statute of limitation?
Ай бұрын
I understand victims or at least one of them is filing civil case.
@rebekahparker4647
2 ай бұрын
Come on!!!!
@nancybrown507
2 ай бұрын
Bickle lost the fear of God!
@lauriekline2920
2 ай бұрын
So much of this crazy process of covering up is standard operation. This advocate group should be hired to help other churches going thru this because THE CHURCH CANT DEAL WITH DISCIPLINE, especially if it's the leaders. I was in a small 4 square church 25 years ago. I was heavily involved and went thru all this pain and craziness. The gossipers was a few who 😅 knew the truth were being called witches from the pulpit. I was there from 27 yrs old to 40. That was serious Grow up time now in christ. Very sad. I pray everyone comes out, gets healed and restored, and in time is stronger in christ than ever in Jesus's name, amen
@Dana-hd8he
15 күн бұрын
Lauriekl.. Wrote a book about growing up in an 4square cult gave It to the media World for free and OVER 350 Heads of Leadership back in March 2000 and ongoing and Evil vile wicked beasty wretched Jack Hayford and his minions/co-horts weren't even embarrassed OR ashamed to change. You could have sat from birth to death in the 4square CULT and they would have never gone through the Bible completely once and the families were a mess, a total, total, total mess. For over 12 years gave the media and the church world dogma, and there was no repentance.Or change, it was what your money and your time could build their Real Estate Empire and their Bank Accounts and that applies to all of them and satanist, luciferians are funding churches Makes Book by John Scura/Dane Phillips. Plus Hayford Praying for people to die and sending his enforcers to intimidate nothing but witchcraft, NO BIBLE here, NO living God of Bible! AG (assemblies of their god) run NO different!
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