Wait, are Knives and Kim supposed to have gotten together in the anime??? Even knowing the history of their kiss in the franchise, I thought they were strictly platonic in that one.
@kimbeeely
17 күн бұрын
@@sassafrass_studios I honestly see them as more so platonic. I feel like the heart in the background / the scene in general to me is them sharing a common bond with each other and opening up as people. They could be gay, but they could also just be friends. I mainly mentioned it in the video because I wanted to highlight how they made their bond not weird compared to the graphic novel
@joeystromboli2036
Ай бұрын
is this the scrapped title for the fourth book?
@boltcuber9242
Ай бұрын
omg i have a friends whos obsessed with king gizzards 😭 dont listen to them much but nonagon infinity is my fav album of theirs
@minecraftsteve2504
Ай бұрын
Ok
@voltzwinger
Ай бұрын
“Sometimes, hot gay steamy sex is one of the funniest things in the world” - George Washington
@Radnibsbro
Ай бұрын
I love that he made Stephen turned out to be a gay dude. But what I hate is that they explicitly say that he's gay, and people try to make him Bi because he dated Julie. Gay guys could have dated girls in the past before they realized who they were, people!!!
@adamk-paxlogan7330
2 ай бұрын
W video
@xxindiscriminated_shockxx
3 ай бұрын
That scene with Kim and Knives in the anime was not a romantic scene and I’m tired of people acting like it is.
@dopey473
5 ай бұрын
I don't think Roxie was that bad in the movie cause rhey didn't have any time to develop her but Ramona calling her just a phase is still heartbreaking and I'm glad it got developed even further in the anime, goes to show how flawed Ramona is which only really hets exploted at the tail end of the movie ans comic. Also thank you Bryan Lee O'Malley for saying Gex.
@stitchedmouthgirl
5 ай бұрын
I’m so glad you called out the scene of Kim and Knives kissing. I never thought that Scott and Knives’s age gap was a problem but I did start questioning it after that scene. Because Kim has said multiple times that SHE thinks the age gap is weird and at times it feels like she’s looking down at Scott for it. But then it’s ok for her to do the same thing because she’s ‘figuring out her sexuality’. Very out of character for Kim and I’m way happier with how the anime showed Kim figuring herself out and IMPLIED her and Knives’s future relationship.
@animanatole
6 ай бұрын
I did not expect to be so thrilled by the jam scene between Knives and Kim. To replace a dirty distasteful joke by this heartfelt wholesome moment was so unexpected, and it might be the perfect choice.
@solidsnek1268
6 ай бұрын
I never really portrayed the whole kim and knives kissing scene as fetishization, for me it seemed not as weird as everyone sees it, knives in that scene is still a confused and emotionally broken teenager and kim is just a broken person in general that is seen to be kinda into woman, and yeah people really do this kind of stuff while drunk its not really uncommon. I have to agree tho its still a bit weird for kim to go for it knowing she is responsible and also I don't like how they never really expanded into it at all, the scene was really useless and it didn't add much.
@ThisIsEmerald
6 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention that Ramona tells Scott "we didn't even make out that much" in regards to Roxie staying over at her place and its never commented on at all, which I feel plays into the whole fetishizing and erasure of bisexuality, as Scott obviously didn't see Ramona making out with her ex while they were together as cheating.
@playererror4044
6 ай бұрын
Okay I freely admit this is partly me being a shipper, but here me out: Kim X Lisa, if only because Lisa is the one person who seems able to make Kim Smile and we don't get the age issue with Kim and Knives.
@RaymondCampesino
6 ай бұрын
the kim and knives relationship from takes off isnt queer at all, they arent together in it
@overseerbomb7632
6 ай бұрын
Scott Pilgrim Vs. Queerness ... Why pit two queens against eachother?
@Itgetsbetterofficial
6 ай бұрын
who won?
@minty7945
6 ай бұрын
Also, I love how Wallace's relationship with Todd kinda mirrored both how Envy used Scott, and how Ramona used her past exes and tossed them aside as if they meant nothing. It's a funny joke but it also happens to mirror the main characters' flaws.
@HoneycombProductions
6 ай бұрын
4:14 i THINK the age of consent in Toronto in 2004 was 16. I would google this, but I don't wanna get put on a list Still an age gap of like, 6 years. Pretty gross, Kim.
@jackster10101
6 ай бұрын
It’s gay media, if two men like each other they are gay two women lesbian/gay trans either gay or straight, and oh no jokes about gay women that’s sooo uncomfortable
@Ivel1oss
6 ай бұрын
what the fuck is this supposed to even mean
@Joshfarmpig
6 ай бұрын
I loved the roxie arch as well. It really does put a spotlight where the book and movie sort of missed the target.
@chillsmoke7093
6 ай бұрын
Yaaaay King Gizzard videooo
@nanowithbeans2511
6 ай бұрын
Even as an asexual, I stan wallace.
@beeaggro2593
6 ай бұрын
The movie did give the "L word? Lesbians?" quote that's just been there forever
@woman_alt_account
6 ай бұрын
Ok i gotta go now cause i dont want spoilers but ima leave a like
@woman_alt_account
6 ай бұрын
Alr nvmd I just watched the vid anyway, good job 👍
@sunnecas
6 ай бұрын
I mean, Scott's paranoia ended being right
@JediMB
6 ай бұрын
I watched the first three episodes of Takes Off as a Scott Pilgrim virgin about... a week and a half ago. I already knew a bit about the core concept of the franchise, but at that point I felt like I had to go back and watch the 2010 movie adaptation. It was fun, but... yeah, not a fan of how it handled Roxie and Ramona's queerness. Then I watched the rest of Takes Off half a week ago, and loved the heck out of it. Even got to freak/geek out at the cover of Konya wa Hurricane/今夜はハリケーン in the second to last episode. I'm in lesbians with that song.
@JimmyFallonUwU
4 күн бұрын
you absolute fool. You are meant to read the books then watch the movie then play the video game then buy the merch THEN watch the tv show
@whalercumming9911
6 ай бұрын
Would have been a better video if it were Scott Pilgrim vs Canada's age of consent laws
@happmacdonald
6 ай бұрын
I haven't seen the anime yet but I always figured that one of the reasons the X's couldn't have much depth is because they get fed into a coins meat grinder. I don't know if I want to watch a series that's going to humanize a bunch of characters just before rainbow-murdering them. 😳
@AbsoluteAbsurd
6 ай бұрын
Spoilers, None of the exes die this time lol
@RaevynDraws
6 ай бұрын
Not that I condone Knives and Kim's relationship (and especially not like it) either, but to be fair, Scott Pilgrim is set in Canada (which the creator is also from) and the age of consent there is 16. She may not be an adult yet, and has definitely not fully matured, it wasn't "illegal". The age of consent in America is 18, when you are an adult, but you finish maturing in your late 20's and feel like it should be higher in America too.
@felixrivera895
6 ай бұрын
The Scott Pilgrim comics are about a straight guy navigating the early 2000s as a grand fuckup. Its the plot that his fuckups need to Stop and not just stop, but be actively worked back so he can let the people in his life move forward from them, just like him. In that series, at that time of history, queerness is very ancillary and its a miracle it came out as well as it did. Wallace Wells is our self confident king who is very not traumatized and he deserves all the love he gets. In Vs. The World we get something put together by executives. These executives think that the Fuckup is Scott Fighting the evil exes in order to "Win" a partner, when there's a perfectly earnest person looking to Be his partner. Which is Fucking Stupud because she's 17 and that's Also a Fuckup. Both things are Not Good. But hey, they were already halfway through filming so lets just go all in on the "Fight 7 people to win a non-zero amount of confidence from the person who didn't say she would date you just because you fought those people". Wallace is still our untraumatized king but he's quite in a realm of his own giving out witty quips while the plot happens around him. Scott Pilgrim Takes off is both not About a straight guy and is written 20 years later with 20 years of analysis and hind sight to back it up. Its About Ramona, and her fuckups. Her fuck ups have to stop, and not just stop, be actively worked back so she can let the people in her life move forward from them, just like her. In this series, at this time, queerness is an integral part of Ramona's identity. Scott is Missing and Ramona is forced to realize that how she affects people was fairly toxic, and if she doesn't shape up too she will hurt Scott in a way that encourages him to regress. Overall, Scott Pilgrim Takes Off isn't About him. He Takes Off. Its about Ramona, and Ramona is a queer main character.
@Abominatrix650
6 ай бұрын
I just finished the show today and I loved it! The characters aren't poorly-written morons, nor are they pedestalised paragons. They're just people being people, going about their relationships, adventures and life! I love it so much! I may not be able to comment that much on queer representation as a straight man but I felt it was treated way more normally and better than other places where it could either be shoved to the side, treated as a "Yeah! We're GAY! Deal with it!" moment or needlessly fetishised either for girls looking for "OMG, look at how cute these gays are! Just wanna put them in my pocket!" or for guys going "Heh! Look at how hot these lesbians are!" This is some good representation to me!
@weezetard
6 ай бұрын
“or gets cuts” and then shows lisa☹️
@matiassanchez1362
6 ай бұрын
I can't remember where I've seen it but i read that one of the people involved in the show talked about Wallace's behaviour in the movie episode was his way of coping with Scott's death, and that being why Wallace only liked him when he was wearing Scott's costume
@neonrelmsproductions4224
7 ай бұрын
If i had it my way, no character would be straight
@matheuss2806
7 ай бұрын
This video is incredibly informative. I also wanted to say that most of these stigmatised bi women are, in fact, the result of a great stigma in today's cinema. The big problem is that women in general are always objects of submission to men in movies, their life only make sense with a man, and when those are bi women, they always make them almost completely straight (reminds me of some "bi" girls in old college times who always spread lies about my other few bi and lgbt in general classmates, while they also only dated boys, just like the one that was my first love, also like that, but only dated girls and sometimes played with me); women don't suffer because they cannot date men, they suffer because they are undervalued and when they are queer, because they can't love in their own way. I do remember something about both Scott and Ramona being both bi and Scott "kinda" dating Wallace, besides the subtext and Fandom, though. If mainstream media doesn't show bi and lesbian women so often, and even more rarely when they are not straight fettish, it doesn't show almost anything about gay males relationships except homophobic humor and fragile masculinity - the show does give a good representation of those, and Wallace is the living proof, even though they do not make so with women. As I see, sexism and homophobia are bound to each other, and if women are constantly pressed to be recognized after a male - they are the ones who suffer directly with this, and so they can relate to other ones, even though they are constantly repressed by the idea of being a "real woman", submissive to a man and feel ashamed or excluded for liking other women - men are the ones who are also violented from a very young age to adult age because they are the ones who are gonna continue with sexism, and they cannot be gay for that to happen, *so they are constantly excluded from relating with other men in a more sensitive way while women can do so more often but always as a straight fettish, not actual love*, that's the main thing that happens in the cinema culture, and even Scott Pilgrim actually represents gay males, they can get even worse than the today's lesbian or bi women representation (that's always sexualizated for men or very superficial and individual), by making it almost none. I find the show great, and I'd like to know what bi, lesbian, pan, etc. women think of it, and it's certainly better than my fast writing and non-native english. It represents a big part of the LGBTQ+ spectrum and actually gets to be known outside the "gay bubble", that is, makes us feel human and also fights that idea that we are actually a small part of the population, cause we aren't, and many people doesn't know because of that isolation and marginalization of lgbts.
@Alright281
7 ай бұрын
I still don't know how to watch this because it's not on Netflix for me
@JimmyFallonUwU
4 күн бұрын
pirate it
@Alright281
4 күн бұрын
@@JimmyFallonUwU nvm I watched it 2 months ago
@obara7366
7 ай бұрын
You made an amazing video, and Wallace was my fav even before I came out to myself and others. However, I have a question: Do you think Wallace had a crush on Scott in their college days? I personally feel that it's basically canon at this point. I've seen some people say that if Ramona had to defeat Schott's exes, Wallace would be Roxie's equivalent, and I love that idea.
@Rynziie
7 ай бұрын
Ur pfp looks like Mimi's from Mimi's delivery service by Good Kid1!
@T4N7
7 ай бұрын
💖💖💖 💜💜💜 💙💙💙 🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈🏴☠️ I’m not a pirate, my OCD just needed to fill that last gap n I’m nearly 200 episodes deep into One Piece. :P
@peteryan3828
7 ай бұрын
scott would absolutely destroy queerness
@X08-Chill
7 ай бұрын
I like how the video title implies Scott is fighting either A. His own Queerness or B. Queer people
@stitchgor3
6 ай бұрын
LOL
@puppetpawss
6 ай бұрын
Honestly: Both. He fought some queer people, and I still have a hard time believing that man is entirely heterosexual.
@snqoqo
5 ай бұрын
@@puppetpawss imma be honest scott looks both so fucking fruity and straight at the same time
@cyclops8238
Ай бұрын
@@puppetpawssyeah I mean the whole time him Wallace were roommates they always shared the same bed. I don't believe for a second that Wallace wouldn't have tried to make a move at least once or at the very least talk to Scott about it.
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