The 1999 lens has a super 8mm look to it on the microscope bench, but another hypothesis : You played basketball with it. Plus the 2.8 of the 24-70 looks like a T 4.0 in real life. T 4.0 with brown sunglasses.
@dakotaxu4792
6 ай бұрын
OMG! I just learned something extremely important from you! Focus motors. I didn’t take that into consideration while I’ve been contemplating buying a very expensive Nikon lens that is on the pre owned market but one that Nikon discontinued years ago, even though this used lens is in pristine condition aesthetically. I usually only buy brand new but because the lens was listed as a 9+ I decided to watch as many KZitem videos that featured this lens so I can make a decision. Now I’m not so sure……. focus motors….. I didn’t think about that factor. Which brings up the question: how long do these lenses last?
@miroslavnovotny5025
7 ай бұрын
Thank you for that. That i really need 👍
@poocky100
Жыл бұрын
I love my tokina atx pro d lens. Photography has never been more fun for me now. The hanks for the video
@nickreid5939
Жыл бұрын
Pixel peep.....i will get 28-70mm
@afonsosantos8364
Жыл бұрын
16K views but only 229 subscribers: best definition of the word "unfair".
@yorkshirekoi2246
Жыл бұрын
are you interested in joing a photography livestream show ?
@joesalerno3966
Жыл бұрын
6:04 Ahmed are you from Southwest Virginia? Noticed the Tech locations
@johnw.3636
Жыл бұрын
The Tokina is the best macro lense on the market, in my opinion.
@ajbarrett3661
Жыл бұрын
Love the video. I've been using a 300 and a 200-400 when shooting football, and really liked the 200-400 better even at f4. Wanted to get your take on a 500mm f4 vs the 400mm 2.8 for football. Especially when paired with a 70-200 and a wide zoom as well
@dozerthecat
Жыл бұрын
I don't think its true that you need 2.8 for night sports anymore. With most new cameras you can shoot around iso 20000 and use topaz to get decent results.
@stefanpop6091
2 жыл бұрын
Boring!
@bailey.nt86
2 жыл бұрын
Most of the ones I've seen on ebay recently have AF motor squeak (28-70mm). I know this comment is a little late. But even so, it seems to be a trend recently on the 28-70mm. I don't own a midrange zoom. I'm currently carrying the 16-35mm, the 50mm and a 70-200mm sometimes. Mainly just the first 2 lenses. Still on the fence about any mid range zoom. I can use my legs most of the time to get closer. But anyways thanks for the great video 👊 I think I'm gonna hold off for now on buying a midrange zoom.
@M4TR1X
2 жыл бұрын
thank you so much
@JACKnJESUS
2 жыл бұрын
The Tokina is as good or better than anything Canon or Nikon has put out over the years. Occasionally, Tokina makes a real winner. Their old 300 f/2.8 atx-pro was another one...a beast...overbuilt (of course)...and tack sharp with great contrast at f/2.8. Tok gets it done...now and again.
@loufaraone5792
2 жыл бұрын
Hi
@bilbobaggins4913
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review - some very useful comparisons there. I would point out that corner sharpness is very important to a landscape photographer, which is why I might just go for the 28-70 over the 24-70 if I can find one at a good price - added bonus is if the af-s is failing I am happy to work in manual so all good!
@TexMex421
3 жыл бұрын
This is why I carry the 400mm f4. So small light and handholdable.
@faustjoe
3 жыл бұрын
I mean the review is good, but whose really going to stop and pay attention to the corners and detail other than pros.
@robertb.3651
2 жыл бұрын
Wrong - pros don't do that because they know it doesn't matter 😉😉😉
@jgr8210
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, a great comparison of the two.
@alexblaze8878
3 жыл бұрын
In terms of UTILS (an economic measure of utilities of pleasure/satisfaction), you’re paying a lot of money for the marginal utils you get for the 24-70 over the 28-70. Based on ur tests that you showed the viewers, the 28-70 does 95% of what the 24-70 does (and I’d say that at normal viewing distances it does 98-99%). I’d like to see the a video showing NORMAL viewing distances (because no one views images in an art gallery with their nose pressed against the artwork) of images taken by each side by side. Then ask yourself if you’d pay double the price for a lens that shot an image that is virtually the same as the other. These unrealistic benchmarks we place on sharpness is just asinine to the customers we serve as photographers. Neither lens was perfect, I don’t know of any lens that is, and yet we subjectively deem one better than the other based on some absurdly minor difference in sharpness that no one else is going to be able to differentiate at normal distances and nor would they care even if they could discern the difference. There is also the issue of variations between samples of the same lens which no one seems to mention when narrating these lens tests. If you factor in this potential variation you’re really splitting hairs trying to determine which lens has enough sharpness advantage to justify the significant cost difference. Sure, if you value sitting with a magnifying glass pouring over virtually identical images in order to justify the purchase of the ever-present-and-more-expensive latest lens, then the 24-70 is the lens for you. For the other 99.8% of shooters just get the 28-70 and save the money for things that really matter.
@felixdamith1
3 жыл бұрын
400m I used for nesting or shots where I do not move much and off course owl at dark conditions ... 300 I used for bird on flights ... great lenses
@pimnauta3840
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, As you said in the video the 300mm is more versatile and easier to use, easier to walk around and no monopod is really needed. I love the 300mm more than I love the 400mm, I write this because I owned both of the lenses mentioned (actually 3 lenses mentioned) but I sold my 400mm VR II to get a 600mm VR II for birding. I used the 400mm VR II mainly for soccer (pro league soccer in The Netherlands) but I use the 300mm VR II handheld now. I always took my 300mm along in case the action took place much closer where the 400mm almost was useless. I switched the lenses so I could get great frame-filling shots instead of action shots where ligaments were missing, hope this makes some sense? I do have to say I do miss the 400mm at the soccer games but I know I made my choice so I do accept this choice. I do understand when you say that your choice is the 400mm but probably you're a pro and visit many pro-league games as I am an amateur photographer who's lucky to visit pro-league soccer games. I also have to say why I choose the 300mm above the 400mm, I also visit amateur tennis and amateur soccer games and the 300mm has the perfect reach on that amateur soccer pitches. On these pitches, you can sit where you want without having those restrictions like at a pro-game. Like every sports photographer (I guess) I work with the 70-200mm VR II on a second body for the real close-by action. Also, the 300mm with the TC 1.4 III is a great combination. I only use the TC during day games and never with night games. The TC 1.4 III is a great TC and I also use it on my 600mm for shooting smaller birds. The results are really great. All this said I do like this video very much because as I see it, it's all true what you've mentioned, thank you. I know your lenses are the older versions (Non VR) but still very good lenses and mine are the VR version.
@manjithagangal9968
3 жыл бұрын
..Hi..🖐️ Nikon 200-500 Nikon 300mm 2.8 + 2x converter Whats the best option?
@VluggeJapie33
3 жыл бұрын
I would ask the same.....
@no15minutecities
3 жыл бұрын
bullshit you cant buy any for $150!!!
@villageblunder4787
4 жыл бұрын
I've got the Sigma 120-300mm f2.8 OS. Absolutely love it, it's so unappreciated, versatile and great value. But my question is now do I get a 400mm f2.8 or 500mm f4? I'm leaning towards to 400 but the 500 is lighter. But was interested in your points about the learning curve. I do love cropping!
@AhmedMustafax
4 жыл бұрын
So I think weight would be more important to you than the extra 60mm of range you'd get with a 1.4TC and the 400 or the extra stop of light. Are you doing sports or wildlife? The 500mm can be carried for a longer period than the 400mm, so that'd what I would lean to. The 2.8 is nice, but of you have a decent body and are not shooting in extremely dim light you should be fine!
@SpeakUpWorld
4 жыл бұрын
Which is best for a professional doing a sporting events
@Capcity44
3 жыл бұрын
Optically, the 400mm. But portability wise, the 300 wins and you can add a 1.4 TC without a great sacrifice of image quality or AF performance.
@SBarsinister1
4 жыл бұрын
Hope you didn't knock down the 70-200...
@AhmedMustafax
4 жыл бұрын
70-200 is the bread and butter! But these lenses are the next step!
@ViewFromShikhar
4 жыл бұрын
Hi, have you tried these lenses with teleconvertors, specifically TC20e iii? I have the 300mm f2.8 with D500. I wish to shift to a FF for better IQ, but worried about reduced range. If the said TC works, it can become my kit for birding and without TC for bigger birds/wildlife etc. Thanks in advance
@AhmedMustafax
4 жыл бұрын
The 2x is a bit much of a loss in sharpness for me to use! Also you get a loss of two stops of light! At the point something like the 200-500 makes more sense since you can track the subject with it and zoom in and out! Hope this helps
@ViewFromShikhar
4 жыл бұрын
@@AhmedMustafax thank you. It actually helped a lot. I just sold off my 200-500mm to upgrade to 300mm and love the IQ - huge jump. 2x not being a good option is a heart break though. Thank you, will look for other options. 🙂
@AhmedMustafax
4 жыл бұрын
@@ViewFromShikhar Yeah the version iii of the 2x teleconverter is better than the ones before it, but it's not terrible useful if you need to crop the image further unfortunately!
@pimnauta3840
3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I sold my TC 2.0 III because it made the auto-focus too slow and the results weren't bad but I did lose some sharpness. I bought the TC 1.4 III and love the combination with all my prime lenses. It's a great combination with my 600mm VR when shooting smaller birds and even better with a 2.8 lens. In my case the 300mm VR II.
@ViewFromShikhar
3 жыл бұрын
@@pimnauta3840 this is so apt at this moment, I'm glad you posted this. I have been using 2x for a while now and was contemplating 1.4 x for the same reason. Thank you. :)
@balintk.9373
4 жыл бұрын
Hey, Do you have any experience with the 300mm 2.8 with 1.4 teleconverter?
@danielhamilton2157
4 жыл бұрын
Great review and helpful.
@borovoy.andrey
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@mrpeterpumpkin48
4 жыл бұрын
That was very helpful. I learned much. The comparison shots you set up were awesome. Thank you.
@kickdown8411
4 жыл бұрын
Too many words man , too manyyyyy
@jonathanpoon7024
4 жыл бұрын
428 is absolutely much sharper than 328, but you can only see the difference when you enlarge the print. I tried before.
@rustinroy9911
4 жыл бұрын
Ever use the 200-400 f/4?
@AhmedMustafax
4 жыл бұрын
I do! It's a great lens if you're doing day sports! However the 2.8's shine for night sports. If you want i can do a follow up video comparing the 200-400 vs the 300/400
@rustinroy9911
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’d like that
@xxxtip7
4 жыл бұрын
actually the best is to own both of them... :)
@marcp.1752
4 жыл бұрын
perhaps a long run copy of your 28-70/2.8, mine is tack-sharp, still being excellent.
@ERoossien
4 жыл бұрын
Still in doubt between a Tokina 100mm vs a Nikor 60mm micro for a DX body 7000 serie. Shooting mushrooms and detail products photography, maybe portraits.
@photographybyliamanderson1659
5 жыл бұрын
for someone getting into weddings... ive done 3, have another in april... who cant afford to buy the 24, is the 28 still a great lens for it? thinking of selling my 50mm 1.4d because i have been caught out a number of times with a place being too tight. id want a lens that could do the 50 and then wider for that situation. And i also have the 80-200 2.8 ED (two touch) so im used to heavy weapons :P
@AhmedMustafax
5 жыл бұрын
Honestly the 28-70 is still a fantastic lens, I shot weddings with it before without any issues! If you can find one cheap I'd go ahead and grab it!
@MaximDupliy
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ahmed. I'm actually now thinking either to get used 300mm or 400mm because i don't know in advance if I will be shooting inside or outside. I can get 420mm using 70-200mm with 1.4 tc. To buy used 300mm and then regret i don't have the reach or to buy 400 and then regret it's too much close to the subject. Still in dilemma. I'm considering vr version.
@AhmedMustafax
5 жыл бұрын
I've never really wanted more "reach" from the 300mm. It's superior to the 300 when it comes to tracking just because it's not tight enough to crop out limbs like the 400 often does. That being said I think the 300 is the better value of the two. My current set up is the 200 f/2 +1.4TC and the 400mm, but I went that route because I often shoot in poorly lit areas where the f/2 makes a difference! Hope this helps!
@piratanonimous6012
5 жыл бұрын
I think you did something wrong, Tomron seems slightly overexposed and in some pics focus is not exactly the same. I have different experience with Tamron, more positive
@trebor292
5 жыл бұрын
Got the Tamron for 58.50 USD on sale. Not too bad, right? :)
@piratanonimous6012
5 жыл бұрын
Robert Einarson I wouldn’t sell mine for 300!
@swanseamale47
5 жыл бұрын
Having downloaded the images I'm supprised how unsharp both the pictues of the girl are. I've got the Tamron, and the images I get are way sharper than either of those samples, indeed even a cheap zoom is sharper. The tree looks a lot sharper, and in that the Tokina seems to have the edge Regards Wayne
@MrK67017
5 жыл бұрын
I had a 28-70 F2.8d and sold it in excellent condition for $850.00 about three years ago and regretted it almost immediately. Last summer, I found used copy for $650.00, and after about three months I shipped it to APS in Ill for these repairs as it completed stopped working in my D750: SWM and bayonet mount replacement, replacement of electrical parts along with cleaning and testing. I was pissed. Now that I've gotten it back, and considering my investment is now $1200.00 and change, I'm never parting with it. After this experience, my advice to anyone considering either of these lenses would be to go with the 24-70 as the 28-70's are getting old and eventually the SWM will need to be replaced. Just checked prices on E-Bay for the 28-70 and there are a bunch for under $400.00, but buyer beware. I do agree with you in that if you're not a professional and can find a very good 28-70, like my refurbished copy, go with that. Awesome video by the way. www.flickr.com/photos/kencordelldavis/albums/72157640151719046/page1
@colinleder5683
5 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm not a pro in photography but I'm currently looking for a nikon 24-70 2.8 as it's just perfect for my use. Saw one yesterday for 599 but the offer dissapeared. Now I found a 28-70 its for 250 (the bid is at 250), not sure if I should go for it
@Fake_Sailor
5 жыл бұрын
I’m shooting film with primes lens, I can buy G lens but how about my film body and I’m eyeing 28 to 70 than can use both digital and film.....any thoughts?
@AhmedMustafax
5 жыл бұрын
Are you shooting film professionally for weddings or the like? If so which body? With something like the F5 and F6 I think the 28-70mm would be great! If it's a manual focus only body, I'd skip the 28-70 and get a lens designed for manual focus.
@Fake_Sailor
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for replay.....I’m just normal that like photography that want to save memory, my film camera is FE2 and my digital just bought 3months ago with 34k actuation D3 and 2 more DX body. I already bought the lens which is fairly useful in film, digital and DX.
@AhmedMustafax
5 жыл бұрын
@@Fake_Sailor The 28-70 isn't an amazing manual focus lens, so if you primarily want to shoot it on film I would not buy it. But if you need a good zoom lens for your D3 and you'll sometimes use it, I would go ahead and get it! Hope this helps.
@rustyshackleford8086
5 жыл бұрын
Does the tamron have an internal motor for auto focus?
@manikantagudepu
5 жыл бұрын
Yes it has
@montygiavelli8125
5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I have the 28-70mm f2.8 and I was thinking about upgrading to the 24-70mm f2.8. Most of my questions were answered by this video. Good job Ahmed !
@Zainphotography
6 жыл бұрын
You have potential to grow as a youtube channel but you need to spend on mic setup man!
@johnwapioke5162
6 жыл бұрын
How long have you had the 28 to 70? And have you experienced anything bad w/ the AF motor? Thinking of grabbing one but I am reading the reviews and I am seeing is that a number of people have had to repair them.
@AhmedMustafax
6 жыл бұрын
I had mine for upwards of two/three years ago. If you can get one, make sure the motor is quiet and it's going smoothly throughout the zoom range. Nikon may stop servicing this lens soon! Aside from that they're built like a tank. Love mine.
@ennedeyfamily2072
6 жыл бұрын
i use this lens for 1 1/2 year now, the AF still ok, and almost all my shoot i using this lens
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