Hey there, this is Helen from Vicseed. I do really love your great content! We just released a Tesla Model Y King of Sun Protection Sunshade Roof(values $89.98), may I know if you're interested in it?
@TeslaTechChannel
Ай бұрын
I'd be glad to accept it and do a review video on it. I have also being eyeing your magsafe iPhone mount which attaches to the back of the Tesla screen, if you care to include one of those as well. Email me at teslatech(at)dynamicsunlimited(dot)com.
@paulparker2571
3 ай бұрын
One I wouldn't have a Tesla, two I have one and the only one that can pump up two tire lt tires to 80 psi on my 1989 f350 dually from empty to 80 on one battery. To me it's worth it since the ones you pay for at gas station or convenience stores only puncture tire to 50 psi. It will cost $1.50 twice to get it to 45 drivable.
@TeslaTechChannel
Ай бұрын
I understand the common reservation on the Tesla part, especially coming from an F350 dually owner. Clearly, you have hauling needs EVs are not cut out for. I still have my '07 Tundra 5.7, but it is now reserved for use when it makes sense to use it. Otherwise, for a daily driver you really can't beat a mid-sized hatchback SUV that does 0-60 in 3.5, handles like a decent sports car, and gets the cost equivalent of 90 MPG. As for the pump: Yeah, pretty much everything in the same category doesn't even come close. Next step up in performance would be tool compressor with a small storage tank. Milwaukee did a great job on this tool.
@paulparker2571
Ай бұрын
@@TeslaTechChannel most people can't work on cars or trucks these days with out being a tech person or thousands of dollars tools needed. I wouldn't buy anything after the year 1998 for any vehicle because I couldn't work on them myself or be able to afford to pay a garage. Sure if I went back to working union I could but then couldn't help the people that really needs help repairing there chimneys when needed like winter or don't give there kids a good xmass, it be more like a job then something I love doing. I rather have old work trucks doing my own work and able to enjoy my job over making a lot of money and waking up NOT looking forward to going to do something I feel I was blessed in loving. I would not recommend any other tire inflator then this one if you have a heavy truck as in a one ton it lt tires.
@sj4392
4 ай бұрын
I love this very informative video. Would you be able to explain how to route six gauge cable from basement to garage we have a basement panel right below the entrance from garage to laundry room very short distance.
@TeslaTechChannel
4 ай бұрын
If it is a long run, like from a basement to a garage I would recommend going with 4 AWG. As was pointed out in the video, I only used 6 AWG because the run from the breaker box to the HPWC was a foot away. Logic is that the longer distance cable the more resistance there is and in order to properly run a contant load at higher amperage you need to up-size to the next larger.
@sayso6119
4 ай бұрын
6/3 Romex is not properly rated for 60A breakers since the charger is classified as a continuous load. It has to be on #6 THHN. 6/3 Romex is only good for 55A, therefore, it maxes out at on a 50A breaker in regards to continuous load
@dtoad5576
5 ай бұрын
harbor freight for the tools guys.
@frankSANDIEGO
5 ай бұрын
I have a question about Daisy chaining. I am planning to add an additional GEN three wall connector. Is it necessary to hardwire the communication or can they communicate wirelessly?
@ckpendleton
5 ай бұрын
For those watching today - you cannot use 6 gauge 6/3 NMB Romex with a 60A breaker - THIS IS NOT TO CODE. However, 6/3 NMB Romex with a 50A breaker = to code (just set the Tesla V3 wall charger to 40A charging when commissioning and that is a safe setup that meets code). Unfortunately for me, 7 months ago I watched this video, ran out and bought a long (75ft) run of 6/3 NMB Romex and a 60A breaker thinking I could use the Tesla V3 Wall Charger's full 48A capability and learned AFTER my install that this combination was NOT to code. All was not lost - after learning this, I swapped the 60A breaker for a 50A breaker and set the V3 Tesla wall charger to 40A charge rate which is safe, to code and works really well. If you want to get the V3 Wall Charger's max charge rate (48A), you will need a 60A breaker - paired with conduit and THHN 6 gauge or MC 6 gauge or 4 gauge Romex. This is a GREAT video and it helped me a LOT but the suggested use of 6/3 Romex and a 60A breaker is not to code unfortunately. I found this out after I purchased the materials and ran the cable.
@rosco92088
3 ай бұрын
This is so correct. I almost bought 6/3 nm wire and swapped for THHN 6 gauge for conductors and a 10 gauge for ground. It’s cheaper + I don’t have to run that neutral wire. This is good because it saves room in the 3/4 in conduit. I believe code is no more that 53% of space can be filed by wire. I also believe the THHN wire can handle 75 amps @ 90 degrees
@stevephla
2 ай бұрын
Yes. Also, 6/2 MC is rated for 75A at 90deg. Metal clad sheds heat better and thus rates a higher ampacity than NM.
@thomasryan5068
5 ай бұрын
Great stuff will get 1 thanks for your review
@stevenanderson3896
7 ай бұрын
🤗 "Promo sm"
@r00tSeller
8 ай бұрын
My guess 5 minutes
@TeslaTechChannel
8 ай бұрын
Not a bad guess. A lot of the inflators on the market are 5 minutes or more. Thanks for the comment!
@robertberg83
9 ай бұрын
The wire is supposed to be rated for 60 amps. Charger is 48 amps, but NEC says for a continuous load you must rate the circuit at 125%, hence the 60 amps. So your install is not correct you should have run 6-2 or 6-3 mc cable, which will give you the full 60 amp rating. Just an FYI. Also a good licensed electrician will check the connections at your mains breaker and the connections in the meter pan to make sure nothing is loose and potentially cause a fire down the road, always a good idea to hire a professional!!!
@TeslaTechChannel
8 ай бұрын
Depending on the install conditions, MC cable may be appropriate. The video would take forever if it dove into every cable type in every residential scenario. In my case Romex was fine, as I was going 1 joist over with under 10 cable-feet. As for the 6/3: yes I could have/should have gone with 6/2, but it wasn't readily available that day. Secondly, my use of the neutral white, should have shown me wrapping green electrical tape on both ends to mark the wire as repurposed as Ground. Alternatively, I could have used the bare 10 AWG ground, as designed and simply not used the neutral. #6 Romex at 60c is rated for 55 VAC. According to NEC 240.4 (B)(2), where no equally rated breaker exist to match the conductor rating (55A) you can go up to the next one (60A). As stated in the video, if the run were longer I would recommend going with a higher rated conductor like 4 AWG, due to the increased resistance inherent in additional cable-feet, or alternatively THHN in conduit if the run wasn't staying in-wall. As a broad-stroke axiom, It is always a good idea to hire your work to a professional specialist in anything in life, iIF you don't know what you are doing and have sufficient means. Alternatively, some folks choose to take it on themselves. While I am happy to have so many professional electricians watch and opine on the video, this video was certainly catered to a non-Electrician DIY homeowner audience, whom had possibly run a circuit or two before. Unfortunately, it has become commonplace to hear stories of some electricians trying to cash in on the EV gold-rush by charging 2-3x what it should be to run a 240V/60A hardwire, just because the customer said the keyword "Tesla". So who can really blame those homeowners who are technically/electrically inclined to give it a go? Thanks for watching & for the comment, Robert.
@robertberg83
8 ай бұрын
@@TeslaTechChannel I totally get saving a buck here and there, I ran my own Tesla charger and saved a lot of money. Granted I’m an electrician and did the job with permits, it was still nice to not have to pay the premium. I just wanted to clear up the misconception of people using 6awg romex for chargers, when technically it’s not allowed. Will it be a problem, more then likely not… but still not allowed (per NEC). I just did a service call that another licensed electrician ran a charger in the wrong size wire, luckily it was caught in time.
@tombraider2500
10 ай бұрын
Clearly stated, but the commissioning next step is where I was completely stumped.
@tommyarmour68
10 ай бұрын
Man this video was great. Well done
@TeslaTechChannel
8 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@niharmohanty8474
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience- it helped with my install!
@TeslaTechChannel
8 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!! Congrats.
@liangQ1
Жыл бұрын
. NEC 240.4 (B)(2) conductors dose not correspond with STANDARD AMPERE RATING of a fuse or breaker can go to next breaker size (not over 800 amp). 55 amp is not standard breaker size , so 60 amp breaker is totally legit for 55amp rated wire for Tesla.
@electricalron
Жыл бұрын
The NM sheathed cable conductors are only rated for 55 amps. NEC article 625 requires 125% of the rated load of the charger which is 48 amps so 48 x 125% is 60 amps. So right out of the gate you're looking at conductors that will be overloaded and certainly don't meed the NEC requirements. The EVC is a continuous load, thus the reason for the 125% increase.
@krishcan4727
Жыл бұрын
Best video for electric knowledge
@CoconutPalmPictures
Жыл бұрын
Great job, thank you! I especially liked the color-coded wiring diagram at 6:22 that shows how to properly ground and / or bond a main and / or secondary panel. I did a screen grab of that and saved it - very helpful!
@TeslaTechChannel
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@ritwekswetank381
Жыл бұрын
Best Installation video. Precise and to the point.
@TeslaTechChannel
Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@flyingjeff1956
Жыл бұрын
As I'm sure you've heard by now, that cheap, plastic 14-50 you showed near the end of the video is a well-known fire starter. A real 14-50 costs nearly 10 times as much but is much less likely to burn down the house. I, personally, will limit the amperage in the app. No point in maxing out the heat load in my house wiring.
@TeslaTechChannel
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Since wiring a NEMA 14-50 was not the subject of the video, and therefore not as important to go into depth on, it has been left in there. However, you are correct. If someone opts to wire-up a 14-50 they should get the commercial series 14-50p from Hubbell meant to handle such a duty-cycle. Thanks for noticing and for your comment!
@PeterJames143
Жыл бұрын
thanks
@kenjohns8245
Жыл бұрын
Nicely done video. However it has been well established that the use of the cheap Nema 14-50 receptacles made by Leviton etc, available at Home Depot, are not safe or suitable for EV charging due to the heavy load cycling requirements. Suitable receptacles like Hubbell, which cost in the $80-$100 range, are made with bakelite instead of plastic, and have brass connectors rather than steel, and have more secure screw terminal connections. There are YT videos showing cases of the cheaper receptacles overheating and melting under EV charging requirements. Secondly, while the logic for using a 60amp breaker seems sensible due to the current limiting done by the car's charging circuit, I believe it is technically still against code.
@TeslaTechChannel
Жыл бұрын
I agree completely. The Heavy Duty Hubbell is the right tool for the job. The cheap 14-50 at Home Depot isn’t up to the continuous load or duty cycle requirements. I appreciate the feedback.
@GROGU123
Жыл бұрын
I understand your logic, but I don’t agree with using the 60amp breaker on that 6awg romex. If you didnt want to wait for an online order, then you should have used MC cable or THHN wire in a conduit. Both could be 6awg and 8awg for the ground and fully rated for a 60amp breaker. Or stick with romex but commision your charger for a 50amp breaker. Also, if you use white for ground then you should get a label maker or green tape and mark it as ground.
@mikeinsugarland
Жыл бұрын
Great video !! Clear concise explanation and reasonings behind each choices
@overdriver99
Жыл бұрын
I just found your video to install my Tesla charger.. very good explanation of ground wire & neutral wire on seperate sub panel. Thank you!!
@darrellb858
Жыл бұрын
After hours and dozens of vids looking for info that I need, this was the most informative. Thanks.
@TeslaTechChannel
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! Glad you found it useful. Since this video was uploaded, 3 key takeaways to heed have emerged: 1) #6 Wire in conduit is allowed for 60A installs, but NM-B is down-rated to 60C category (despite mine was rated for 75C at the time), which puts it at 55A rating, so either choose a different #6 wire + conduit or use #4 wire.; 2) There was never a reason for my having used 6/3 at the time other than availability (lack of 6/2 the day I decided to do the install, I didn’t need the white common for anything in the circuit) ; 6/2 (or 4/2, depending on your situation) is the way to go); 3:). Using the White wire as a ground and then tagging it with Green electrical tape to signify its use as Ground has proven to be unnecessary and debate for far too much confusion than it has been worth. Just use the bare copper that the 6/2 (or 4/2) comes with, or in a conduit run with separate conductor pulls, use the green cladding, as is standard, to avoid any confusion. The two most often issues people have run into have been not being mindful of the length of wire required from their load center/breaker panel to the HPWC and that the longer the run, the more resistance, and therefore more robust wiring required, and spend the money on a proper torque wrench for securing the wires down to the terminal block on the HPWC end and the other end to the breaker lugs on the other end, to the proper spec in-lbs. Enjoy many years of great service. Mine is still working flawlessly 2.5 years later. Cheers.
@darrellb858
Жыл бұрын
@@TeslaTechChannel Thanks for this again. I'm planning on wiring the charger from my electrical panel, which is outside my garage, through to the direct opposite side of the wall. So i'll just be using Romex 6/2. Not sure if i'll be needing conduit as the wiring will be in between the wall and I believe conduit is not needed (locally at least). Would you suggest running conduit anyways? Since it will be a 60A install but ofc not using 60A as the Tesla will only be drawing a maximum of 48A.
@jayte7139
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Followed all your steps and I was able to install my wall connector successfully first attempt.
@TeslaTechChannel
Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@jakes.5591
Жыл бұрын
Only issue is #6Awg NM-B is not code compliant on a 60 amp breaker.
@TeslaTechChannel
Жыл бұрын
Despite my particular NM-B and the HPWC and breaker all being rated higher, apparently regardless of mfg test rating, the NEC downrates all NM-B to 60C, in which case 55A is max.
@musicbymark
Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. I'm not understanding the last chart at the end. I installed GE 60amp breaker & ran 6/3 (before realizing I could've used 6/2 w/G) around 60-65 feet from basement, through attic to garage. Gen 3 Charger appears to be working fine, but is my wire UNDERsized and a fire risk?
@GROGU123
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it’s not to NEC code and insurance could blame you if there’s a fire and investigation. Install a 50amp breaker and commission your charger to work off a 50amp breaker. m.kzitem.info/news/bejne/1Xqmn4SeiXyZiH4
@chrisf9607
Жыл бұрын
Tape that white wire with green tape if it's ground and not neutral
@resolvingconcerns
Жыл бұрын
Great DYI thanks! at 7:51 you say something about "if you have the 50 watt hour pack..." how can I tell ? I have a model Y arriving next month and need to make decisions ASAP... thanks again!
@TeslaTechChannel
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and pardon the delay. 50 kWh packs were only part of the Std Range lineup for a very, very short time back in mid-2020 and were quickly taken out of production. If you are getting a new Model Y, chances are it is either being assembled in Fremont or Austin. The Fremont cars (to the best of my knowledge) have all been installed with the same tried-and-true 2170 cells (named 2170 for the 21mm X 70mm outer dimensions of each cell in the pack). Only recently have a handful of Model Y’s built in GigaTexas (a.k.a. Austin) been fitted with the new 4680 cells. In either case, the packs each approximate 80 kWh capacity.
@MarcoTrillion
Жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@hd2488
Жыл бұрын
Can you cross the red and black wires?
@TeslaTechChannel
Жыл бұрын
The red and black are both hot legs of the 240v circuit and are interchangeable.
@eastmanresearch3143
Жыл бұрын
Just did a WC install today. Used 25' of TTHN #4 and TTHN #8 ground (90c rated). Cost difference between #6 and #4 was .25 per foot. Not worth the $25 to have an upgrade path and lower fire risk; plus the #4 can be retrofitted w/ a sub-panel at some point and two wall connectors can be used at 30-38a each. The #4 90c rated wire can handle up to 95a; or 76a on a continuous load like EV charging.
@xxMCKAYMANxx
Жыл бұрын
Why use the 60 deg C column? Gen 3 Installation manual specifically notes: "If installing for maximum power, use minimum 6 AWG, 90° C-rated copper wire for conductors." 6/3 is perfect for this application as long as the individual conductors are THHN or better (and they should be!). I would even use 6/2 if only 3 wires are required.
@TeslaTechChannel
Жыл бұрын
6/2 is all that is needed. As for conductor type, while the HPWCv3 and breaker being rated higher, as well as the NM-B used in my video was rated at 90c, the NEC states despite that they say it needs to be downrated to the 60c column. 6/2 THHN in conduit would be the best way to go. 4/2 even better.
@anthonyricardo
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. From the parts needed to the technical explication- I appreciate all of the above.. 👏🫵
@kaimanson3174
Жыл бұрын
According to 7:19 the recommended amp for the SR+/RWD is 40 amp breaker. To be future proof can I use a 60 amp instead? And just use that setup with a SR+/RWD and if in the future I get a performance or LR I don't have to replace the breaker and possible wire. Thanks in advance.
@TeslaTechChannel
Жыл бұрын
The Wall Connector can be wired appropriately to accommodate a 60A circuit (48A continuous load) and still be used on a vehicle that has the in-car charger module limited to 32A. It will just be future-proofed should you decide to trade-up at some point. The Wall Connector and in-board charger module in the car use the low-voltage lines in the plug to negotiate the highest common denominator. The Wall Connector will say “I can give you 240VAC@48A. The car will respond, “I can only handle 240VAC@32A”. The Wall Connector acknowledges that message, downrates itself and then proceeds to send at 240VAC@32A, even though it is capable of more.
@kaimanson3174
Жыл бұрын
@@TeslaTechChannel thank you so much for the quick response 👍
@wellcraft19
Жыл бұрын
@@TeslaTechChannel, while the communication protocol is somewhat accurate, the Wall Connector DOES NOT downrate itself to 'send only 32A'. The Wall Connector really only tells the car 'I have 48A available for you' (or less based on what the supply circuit breaker is rated for and the Wall Connector was commissioned for upon installation). It is the charger in the car - nothing else - that 'regulates' what current it is pulling from the mains. The Wall Connector only tells how much there is available. If you come with a Ford F-150 Lightning (Extended Range), it can charge at 80A, but it will not, as the Wall Connector will just tell the car 'sorry' I only have 48A for you' and the charger (actually chargers, as the Ford has two onboard chargers) will adjust itself to not pull more than 48A. Same if you come with an older Nissan Leaf. The car knows that it can (will) only pull 30A. But it's not regulated by the Wall Connector per se. Only communicated what's available. The Wall Connector, as all residential AC charging solutions, are little more than fancy cable hangers, with a tiny bit of intelligence built it ;-)
@Emergenttheory
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@TeslaTechChannel
Жыл бұрын
Welcome
@Emergenttheory
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@alleng1234567
Жыл бұрын
I’m looking for what to do to set up after physical install
@TeslaTechChannel
Жыл бұрын
Follow the simple instructions on connecting you mobile to your Wall Connector wifi SSID, then use the URL they give you in the instructions to go to the device’s webpage to set the rest of the settings up, join your home wifi network, set the circuit breaker rating, etc.
@chrisehat575
2 жыл бұрын
So well done! There are too many “instructional videos” out there that don’t explain adequately the project one is attempting but this was excellent. This is my first time ever commenting on a KZitem video. Make more videos, please.
@chrisehat575
2 жыл бұрын
The Internet desperately needs more quality content like yours to be promoted over all the garbage people post.
@TeslaTechChannel
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words. I’m glad you found it useful.
@gerritstroh5377
2 жыл бұрын
So a 6/2 UF-B cable would be fine to use? It's about half the price of NM-B. I'm running about 40ft from one side of the garage to the other.
@Uuxaul
2 жыл бұрын
I love how you showed absolutely everything from load charts to how to wire the panel up... But not actually how you connected the charger itself.
@TeslaTechChannel
2 жыл бұрын
I suppose you are right. I assumed people attempting this would know at least basic things such as screwing down terminals to wires. I can see how it would have been more thorough, but the video is already quite long as it is. That is why I focused on the less obvious things. Thanks for the comment!
@mdrudholm
2 жыл бұрын
Minor correction: the second generation wall connector can deliver up to 80A off a 100A circuit. But only Roadsters and certain older Model S and X cars can benefit from that.
@TeslaTechChannel
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Wormeloan
2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen a overtemp charger and than it lowers amperage
@TeslaTechChannel
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I did have that last summer. After having called Tesla, it was remotely diagnosed that the HPWC failed a software download and needed to be swapped-out. The sent me a new HPWC and RMA'd the old one. No problems since.
@damianmurphy-morris1941
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing Explanation 👏
@TeslaTechChannel
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙂
@harryeichelberger4799
2 жыл бұрын
I'm going with 6/2 wire... The guage difference in the ground is still within code. Does anyone see any issues?
@TeslaTechChannel
2 жыл бұрын
As long as it is a shorter run. If it is a long run choose 4/2.
@TheSayd007
2 жыл бұрын
Can you connect a wall connector to a NEMA 6-50 outlet?
@TeslaTechChannel
2 жыл бұрын
Assuming you are replacing the receptacle with a hardwire to the HPWC, you can, you just have to program it for "240v/50A" so it regulates the charge to not exceed 40 Amp charging rate. I wouldn't recommend making a 6/2 extension cord with a 6-50 plug to the HPWC.
@Mrcrisis2012
2 жыл бұрын
Not at helpful for wall connector
@TeslaTechChannel
2 жыл бұрын
OK, I'll bite. What info about it were you looking for that this didn't address?
@Mrcrisis2012
2 жыл бұрын
@@TeslaTechChannel its just not clear or comprehensive instructions..surely not a video for any complete install application.
@moehassani
2 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend installing the home charger if you live in a rental place?
@TeslaTechChannel
2 жыл бұрын
Depending on how long your lease is, absolutely. You need the landlord's permission, in addition to obtaining the electrical permit from the local municipality. Most likely, they will permit a licensed electrician to do it, but not self-install. Out of an abundance of caution, as a landlord I would mandate that unless I knew my tenant was an Electrician to begin with.
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