An interesting point point they would have above forces like the Tyranids is that in lore, Radiolaria fluid, if consumed or left uncleaned on surfaces, will begin to convert whatever they find themselves on/in into more vex, like what happened to Kabir in the vault of Glass. It's probable that even if the hive mind deems it efficent enough to go after the vex at the start, it would loose any bioform that gets even a lick of fluid in the long run, unless it can sterilize the fluid before conversion begins.
@karlemilobelsanvig487
3 сағат бұрын
United Federation Of Planets, when??
@JosephSchmidt-hm2vo
3 сағат бұрын
How would the Yautja from predator fair in 40k. They got some pretty powerful equipment, a plasma caster can one shot apache helicopters and obliterate humvees, and their bladed weapons are no joke, they also got power armor. How would they compare to Kroot
@ammod4827
4 сағат бұрын
so another issue you have to deal with is that the vex that we fight (excluding the wyverns) are all the noncombatants of the vex. these are all the scouts and engineers of the vex. the wyverns are also the weakest of the combatant type vex.
@obadijahparks
4 сағат бұрын
Diablo games vs 40k? Which factions could survive, and for how long?
@user-zi8rl1zn6v
5 сағат бұрын
Pretty sure we lost 5 million helldivers already
@stryker0563
5 сағат бұрын
Fun fact! Radiolaria actually turns any organic lifeforms into vex, its why asher mir has a vex arm.
@TheOneWhoShushes
6 сағат бұрын
Meanwhile our Guardian is sense by the emperor and given a new subclass by him: His empyrean with. With titans gaining a huge sword called the purifying blade, hunters getting a purifying rifle, and warlock causing a chain explosion for their supers. The emperor became aware of their use as a tool for another entity in a separate universe and use them accordingly.
@cancerconnoisseur
6 сағат бұрын
Honestly lasguns would likely be ineffective against battle droids due to las impulses being pure laser weapons and droids are heat-resistant (star wars blaster bolts are plasma, not laser), but the kinetic weapons that the Imperium possesses could probably shred at closer ranges. However, the battle droids have a couple edges that make this a rather unfair fight. We're assuming this is the full scale of the forces at the disposal of the Confederacy of Independent Systems from Star Wars lore. Defoliators, the twins Malevolence and Devastation, Gravitic Polarization beams (capable of wiping out entire solar systems), and over a quintillion battle droids that are cheap to recycle and reconstruct, all forces under the control and direction of super-tactical droids and separatist war leaders, a handful of which are force users, and one who is a mechanical blender of death. While the Imperium has some skilled units, they're getting overrun without question. The Orcs are getting overrun too because while defoliators burn away all organic matter, droids can continue to fight without hinderance. The same could be said for Tyranids and the Tau are just hilariously dead. The biggest threats would likely be the Necrons and the Eldar, however due to how scattered Eldar are, they're less of a problem. Necrons still have the "fuck your sun" button... But Necrons have been shown to be overwhelmed before and lose in circumstances like that... With the CIS weapons being capable of actually damaging Necrons significantly (plasma-based), that should also be considered. However the biggest issue for the Confederacy is the lack of Hyperspace Lanes in the galaxy of 40k. The Confederacy would have to scout-map the entirety of contested space, hand-placing hyperspace beacons and buoys, charting their own lanes covertly in systems of interest to allow for fast entrance and exit from contested systems, which is an absolute must if the CIS want to conquer the galaxy. The CIS are the only force that can do this successfully on such a scale thanks to the wealth of the banking clans, so they would likely need at least a decade of pre-establishing lanes from a safe corner of the galaxy. TL;DR I believe that, by sheer force of overwhelming numbers and with sufficient pre-planning, the CIS could take the entirety of the known Warhammer 40k galaxy with relatively minor losses. Their biggest threats are the Eldar and the Necrons, but not by much.
@tannerblack4498
6 сағат бұрын
Imagine Trazyn the Infinite grabbing a bunch of Vex for his collection, thinking they are just Robots. Then one day, while walking through the Vex Galleries he notices that several vex units are in the wrong place or in different poses than they were originally......and then he notices that their eyes are following him despite the fact that they should be stasis locked. Cue portal to the Vex Network opening and an army of Vex units pours through, led by an Axis Mind specifically created to fight him.
@rhymenoceros3303
6 сағат бұрын
Literally in every universe they exist, if there are no Guardians or Paracausal entities to stop them, the Vex take over everything. WH 40K's Warp shenanigan's might give them some trouble but given it can't be used even half as well as Guardians utilize the Light to do fate defying things, I'd say the WH 40K universe would be toast or thrown at minimum into a stalemate against a Vex incursion.
@Vavalry
7 сағат бұрын
I don’t think the warp is paracausal the same way the light/darkness is. Light and dark wielders are truly unpredictable in how they operate, no two guardians will ever be the same, and thus can’t be simulated by the vex minds. Demons of chaos and their worshippers however? They are 100% simulatable. A Khorne demon is fairly easy to tell what they’ll do, skulls for the skull throne and all that. All the demon factions can be simulated due to how one note most of them tend to be. Even if they were just as paracausual, the vex have canonically been shown at several points that they can deal with paracausal forces. The original fireteam that went into the vault or glass and Saint 14 were both perma killed by the vex (at least until we pulled an endgame and did time travel shenanigans to save Saint-14), and Panoptes even had the potential to drain the universe or both light and dark. If the Necrons could make anti warp pylons, the vex could easily develop a vex mind specifically designed to counter the paracausal forces of the warp.
@_final_warning_
8 сағат бұрын
The vex would not survive AT ALL.
@user-bz8gw5pv6x
8 сағат бұрын
Hey HelmetHead could u pls do a video on if the aliens from the XCOM franchise would survive in Warhammer 40k. It would be great if you could do that. Cheers
@SoulDeus
9 сағат бұрын
I could see Tzeentch getting some Vex to worship him like the Witness akin to the Sol Divisive.
@Mr.Negative2004
9 сағат бұрын
One fun fact if anyone eats the white vex liquid they turn into vex so the tyrinds are done
@tgreen1071
10 сағат бұрын
You missed the fact that super earth is run by an a.i In 40k that's very bad. The mechanicus would have a fit and want destroy/steal SE tech, FTL travel is pretty important too.
@crasterlongshanks4284
10 сағат бұрын
The vex actually do have very powerful countermeasures against paracausal forces, as seen in them wiping 4 guardians from existence in the vault of glass, three of them being so thurougly forgotten, that they aren't listed anywhere, other than the fact that Kabr's fireteam is described as "A full fireteam of 3", and the fourth only being remembered because some logs were recovered. The other example being the martyr mind, which removed Saint-14's light, which depending on how this could be interpreted, could probably turn *anyone* into a null in the 40k universe (given enough time, and contact). I also think they would be able to be corrupted by chaos, assuming that any collectives see the chaos gods as a way to grantee their survival, just like how the Sol Divisive worship the darkness (I don't know if they actually worship the Witness, or the Winnower) As for destiny in general, I think it's important to point out that every single faction has access to safe FTL tech, and many of the factions can easily cross galaxies. So factions like the fallen, which I would normally say would be completely wiped out very quickly, could just take their chances and *leave*.
@coolio6855
11 сағат бұрын
The Helldivers would make amazing guardsmen and could probably outdo any other infantry in 40k, but I think that's about it.
@DavidKoltun
12 сағат бұрын
I think your overestimating the vex's need to accurately simulate a threat to destroy it. The vex have killed guardians in the past famously powerfull ones to. The player might be able to pirouette through vex armies every other day but the vex in lore are nightmares especially in places they completely controll. I do think that chaos would still be a challange for them but its not a hard counter. There are afterall timeliness where the vex HAVE SUCCESSFULLY eradicated the guardians and controlled everything
@Hartzilla2007
9 сағат бұрын
"The player might be able to pirouette through vex armies every other day" Of course the Player is also some all powerful chosen one the Traveler and/or Winnower likes to give presents to.
@mikeenriquez6407
12 сағат бұрын
why did you delete some of your video 📷
@C4MG1RL
13 сағат бұрын
I think there's a bit of a misconception here. The guardians aren't immune to the Vex because they wield the light, it's because they themselves are paracausal. The Vex struggle against Guardians because everything about them exist without a cause. Psykers would be vulnerable because while Chaos may be paracausal, the psyker is not. It would be like Oryx. They were able to use the power of taking because Oryx is not a paracausal entity, so they could simulate and copy him. The Vex would be able to copy and probably wield better the power of a psyker. Like The Black Garden and Quira. Arguably making things even worse for 40k if you include them having the power to take. The only reason the Vex are chumps in Destiny is because Bungie doesn't know what to do with them lol and they can't figure us out. But the threats they pose are a lot of "if we didn't have guardians we'd be screwed" don't forget they managed to simulate the entire last city and we barely stopped them in time lol
@fala5764
9 сағат бұрын
The vex no longer have the power to take, as it was a power exclusive to quria who was destroyed. Quria also was in service to the hive for most of the time it was able to take so it could be seen in the hive v 40k
@handbanana4899
13 сағат бұрын
I mean...the operative word here is SURVIVE, right? If I was the Vex in 40K, I'd take one look at the galaxy and just _leave_ to go simulate infinite universes in some galaxy without the C'tan and Chaos Marines and whatever. Like what do the VEX care about all the factions, just go somewhere safe and build googleplexes of dudes, slow and steady wins the race bro.
@Anonymous-bk9xy
13 сағат бұрын
Not to mention the new Compelled Vex during Echoes.
@t.s.7166
14 сағат бұрын
Somthing we often forget is that we've seen Vex subtypes like the sol divisive turn to worshipping forces like the darkness in order to better the vex collective. It's possible that the vex could develop subtypes that worship chaos in hopes of understanding it better Also as for the admech, I don't think it would be as huge a deal as you think. While the tech priests worship technology, they're still incredibly human supremacist. The vex are single celled organisms piloting a mech essentially, the mechanicus would see that in the same way they see necrons. Xeno filth
@bushsniper7198
14 сағат бұрын
Could Scape and Run: Parasites survive Warhammer 40k?
@Stentzen
15 сағат бұрын
funny how this battle is even less close once you get into some of the deeper destiny lore. The Vex, in the destiny universe, have been fighting an army of quantum immortals with powers they don't understand, and still STILL all they have seen fit to send is the lowest rung of worker drones. We have never seen a true Vex warform, and overminds like Atheon, Penopties and Dendron are nothing but overseers to make sure the workers are doing what they're supposed to. the closes we've come is something like quaria or the vex that killed saint 14, which are really just hyper-specialized tools rather than true weapons. If the vex were to ever see anyone as true enemies, rather than just weeds, we'd never know cause every trace of them would have been erased back to the beginning of time.
@fala5764
9 сағат бұрын
The wyverns are combat frames, but only the equivalent of light infantry for them
@requiemlul3140
7 сағат бұрын
Also the fact that via time and universe shenanigans they have literally infinite amounts of everything
@SlimeyZockt
16 сағат бұрын
The thing is, Vex can simulate paracausal things, but it takes them a long time. Quria the dreaming mind simulated the sword logic after realising that in Oryxs Throne World it was the law. They made the black heart, something infused with darkness, they simulated Saint-14s Light to capture him with the Marter Mind. Vex also cannot be corrupted since they just take whatever is not them and turns them into them. So if you ever get into contact with them, they will turn you into a Vex, if you infect them, they will turn the infection into Vex. The Vex could do a lot more than this. For example Penoptes was almost able to simulate a path to a future where the Vex won completely, despite us guardians being there. The Vex can create powerful minds who can do certain wild thing, it just takes a really long time (Marter Mind took a couple hundred years). While maybe the chaos god of change might not be so easy, since Vex have trouble simulating something reality defying (in other words paracausal) that is also changing everytime they interact. That's why they have issues with Guardians, but not the Hive. The hive also use the Darkness, but unless Oryx took Quria, the Vex would have overrun the Throne World and the Taken war would be over before it began. And I don't know how Psychics work, but if they do not count as absolutely reality shattering with a new way of using their power each time they fight Vex, their chances are rather slim
@dravendarkplays9607
16 сағат бұрын
Give the entire tyrinid race necron tech and you still get a race highly inferior to the vex. While I dont see the vex being able to simulate the warp, they really dont need to since everyone who uses it us psychic instead of straight up magic. And since warp manipulation can be controlled by a human brain, i could see the vex very easily learning to shut down psycer powers, acting much like a strong blank. And if the vex ever got access to necron tech its over. Necron pylons that can sprout out of thin air because of three machine frames just oraying in a direction? Not to mention the most powerful of the vex minds would probably figure out how to make one od themsevles a warp god, seeing as how they can even break into throne worlds, i dont think even the chaos gods would bw able to stop pylons from being creared inside their own domains. By the way light and dark is hard to simulate because at least with light, its the energy if chaos itself
@DarkPagan
17 сағат бұрын
im wondering how the vex would interact with blanks because physcers are paracausal meaning they manipulate reality much like the warp. so i wonder if a blank which is entirely absent of warp and almost disconnected from reality would act similiarly like.
@cody1570
17 сағат бұрын
Your putting into effect that each army is a man to man stand and fight homie. A vex world against a tyranid invasion wouldnt go as planned due to one thing. Numbers, no mattrr how efficient something is along with a field of psychic disturbance that not only distorts time but jumbles electronics and messes with signals. You could have a weed wacker that would be blocking a pellot minigun, a few of those pellots are getting threw regardless of how efficient and they have far more psychers on a battlefield then most factions besides eldar or the orks inate psychic abilites that allows them to mimic other technologys through "apiphanys". Theres alot that goes into just dumbing it down but the gyst is warhammer is an end all be all situation. The fact a gaurdian can die by fallen tech and fallen encounters with vex on worlds means they die just like everything else. And there was a situation people got mad at about sorcerors who could see the future got bodied by a single custodies. They said its stupid how seeing the future and they still lost. You can see a tidal wave coming from a mile out but you cant stop it no matter how hard you try.
@merchantotin6266
17 сағат бұрын
A suggestion: The Grineer Empire or the Corpus Board vs 40k (though any faction would be interesting to see)
@FrostWolfPack
17 сағат бұрын
I feel combine would need to take controll of the planet and keep it hold on it long enough so they can reverse engineer ships and ftl. As that be again their weakness lack of ftl they have dimenchion gates but not realy known way to travel trough normal space. When comes other factions Necrons might be more anoyed of combine than realy treatened as specially if fully awaken tomb dynasty as their tech plays whit reality like its clay. Eldar would be hard to cauch as most of them are in deep space and they in the end can detect and deny eny new portal creation if combine has gotten space travel. And then combine has no true voidbattle expirience. And orks well there be looots of grumping and they might go invade the other side.... emperor have mercy
@generalnawaki
18 сағат бұрын
I think the Necron could, they are way and far away more advanced than most of the advanced species in sci-fi.
@isuckatusernames4297
18 сағат бұрын
I think the tyranyd's shadow in the warp would still be effective on everyone, since in star wars, every lifeform is at some level sensitive to the force, except for some select few species. kind of how in 40k, every human is pschycic on some level.
@isuckatusernames4297
18 сағат бұрын
you should try covering the architechts from ringworld. their main advantage in that situation is their ringworlds being outside the galaxy but near enough for ships to reach them. also, since they don't have the pupeteers destroying their ringworlds in that scenario, I'd see them being able tl at least survive alot of threats, aside from the nyds.
@cryskingwiththetankfromMSpaint
19 сағат бұрын
This was pretty good in general, my only issue with it is that you say that in orbital bombardment would be necessary to take out any amount of space marines. Ceramite armor was not made to stand up against kinetic energy. rather it was designed to go to withstand Lasguns and plasma weapons. The auto Canon would be able to take it out through shattering and cracking the armor. And the Quasar cannon could possibly Pierce power armor, as a majority of directed energy weapons in 40k are Very spread out when it comes to surface area of impact, so the armor would not be designed to take a shot from the Quasar cannon. - With high regards, you’re friendly nerd with too much time.
@recluse5245
19 сағат бұрын
Yes lol, the most basic Vex are monsters compared to the front runners of 40k
@isuckatusernames4297
19 сағат бұрын
here's an idea for an incredibly niche and specific sci fi faction. morning light mountain/the motiles from Pandora's Star. essentially a hivemind using cybernetics and wormholes. its advantages are the fact that it doesn't need planets merely systems (space habitats), the motiles are also **very** good at teraforming, to such a point that its toxic for other lifeforms, they have an extremly reliable and fast FTL method, they also have an insanely good ability to reverse engineer technology, so on top of pretty good unit production we have an extreme degree of adaptability. I do see Morning Light Mountain struggling at first, especially against the tyranids and the forces of chaos and if the imperium was to ever mobilize en masse against it, unlike the nyds, MLM can't simply pack up and leave.
@DrBrightsite19
20 сағат бұрын
Necrons casually committing malevelon creek 2 electric boogaloo on a daily basis
@DirtyDanRichards
20 сағат бұрын
Orks also utilize "paracausality" due to their psychic field. If enough of them believe something hard enough, it becomes real. Fun scenario: The vex successfully simulate the orks with 30% efficiency. Then proceed to lose control of the simulation because the Orks said "Nuh uh!" when they tried to delete them.
@rockstarskolas
20 сағат бұрын
It should be noted that the Vex units we see in game (goblins, Minotaurs, hydras, etc.) are all vex engineering units not built for combat, leaving to the imagination what their soldiers look like
@lightninghawk1014
21 сағат бұрын
Want to know the scary thing about the Vex? We still haven’t seen what they consider to be their combat units. We’ve essentially been fighting their construction units.
@hellerdjoplup2652
21 сағат бұрын
Humans from age of tech had access to weapons that could fire through and before time. Time distortion tech is what stasis tech is. Humans age tech built machines that could eat space times code.
@fictionalfactionscompared2047
23 сағат бұрын
Tzeetch and the vex would be playing 6d chess for the fate of the universe.
@HelmetHeadLore
21 сағат бұрын
I agree lmao
@codyperry5427
2 сағат бұрын
Hydra domius
@trentcarter1507
23 сағат бұрын
Usually, when someone makes a video like this, they just use it to say how cool their favorite universe is it's cool to see that you actually did your research
@nosense8744
23 сағат бұрын
I think they would be pretty much like the Necrons
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