How do armchair grades relate to UK trad grades? Is there a comparison table somewhere?
@Nuttyirishman85
Жыл бұрын
Always bring a full rack for a 60 foot climb.
@richedwards4590
Жыл бұрын
Wear a helmet
@richardgoldstone4666
Жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed it, but I haven't noticed discussion about the fact that the lower two pieces came out.
@richedwards4590
2 жыл бұрын
Top belaying
@mickz4601
2 жыл бұрын
Horrible climber ..get another hobby
@owllord5792
2 жыл бұрын
Idiots and climbing gear "!
@joannawiak9855
2 жыл бұрын
Brawa dla asekurującego !
@rotex
2 жыл бұрын
Future candidate for a TBI. Wear a helmet and save what brain cells you have.
@charlesranes3621
2 жыл бұрын
Why bother with a rope with only one attachment. Surprised he didn't bounce off the ground
@bonefishboards
2 жыл бұрын
Carrying a lot of gear for like few or no gear placements.
@amazingseniors5770
3 жыл бұрын
Almost there!
@octavia2
3 жыл бұрын
Classic Peak rite of passage; been there - not quite done that. Must have been even more classic before Friends, come to think.
@thirsklast1094
5 жыл бұрын
Great effort!
@shgp1956
6 жыл бұрын
well held but why no helmet???
@Totalavulsion
6 жыл бұрын
Belayer wearing a helmet, climber does not. Go figure
@joshm7456
7 жыл бұрын
Think the wrong guy has the helmet on
@leeevans6213
7 жыл бұрын
Scared above gear
@hiroshi6041
8 жыл бұрын
sweet fall haha and nice belay. Lucky cam didnt pop too
@mangore623
8 жыл бұрын
Clearly in over his head; the poor technique and "big wall" rack says it all.
@jeffconstine2344
8 жыл бұрын
These climbs are mostly HEAD Pointed (Toprope the hell out of it) then go for the send.
@hiroshi6041
8 жыл бұрын
yes cuz protections are very poor... would you try them ground up?
@jeffconstine2344
8 жыл бұрын
maybe.
@cipher256
7 жыл бұрын
Typically Moon Walk is attempted ground-up as the gear is good and as seen in the video the fall is pretty safe.
@hyep.269
8 жыл бұрын
first thing i thought of was no helmet.... crazy considering he is using a rope for safety...
@ktan88
8 жыл бұрын
No helmet? Don't be crying when your brains leak out everywhere.
@Fr4gg3r2
8 жыл бұрын
+Karl Tanner at least the belayer had one. lol
@palminator73
8 жыл бұрын
Look at all that extra gear!!! Any wonder you fell.
@mlewin51
8 жыл бұрын
After you crack your head open by not wearing a helmet because "you're a man" will you sell me your gear? I need another rack.
@networkbike543
8 жыл бұрын
Judging by the quick reaction of the climbing partner you were half expecting this fall. Even with this knowledge you nearly hit your head on the rock face when you pendulumed in. Why not wear a crash helmet
@54114142
9 жыл бұрын
Good cam placement and excellent falling technique! :)
@jeremyrosene157
3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. At least whoever put the gear in did a good job
@DizzyVizion
3 жыл бұрын
Only thing missing was a helmet
@adamfrederick3006
9 жыл бұрын
Skip to 3:33
@simonkemp156
9 жыл бұрын
Here's a link to the climb's description, some photos, and on-going log entries of people's personal experiences:- www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/c.php?i=10997 Classic John Allen grit route I was so happy to on-sight back in the 80s. Very good times. Grit is unforgiving, the ground is always too close, but it's "god's own rock".
@truthseeker9281
9 жыл бұрын
Bet he was buzzing after that fall. Such a good feeling when the gears bomber.
@BboyElectrix
9 жыл бұрын
3:35
@flowerpower111
9 жыл бұрын
Whereabouts is this climb?
@Oscillatemusic
9 жыл бұрын
Bone Alias With gritstone like that you should be able to guess, barring that google the name. its in the peak district.
@Northernblades
9 жыл бұрын
ps, if you want to see some real whippers, Gritstone is not the way to do it. Smith rock has opportunity for falls exceeding 60 foot.
@Northernblades
8 жыл бұрын
Jake Schuneman en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whipper as well as a book published in 2005 I feel uniformed as I can not tell you how old the term is. but I will assure you over 30 years. Stay ignorant man stay ignorant. I would also like to ask you, Is targeting ones use of words the only discussion/debate skill you have? Is there more bottled up in that ignorant uninformed little mind of yours? you may also want to familiarise yourself with a basic education. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_climbing_terms these are real words.
@joynthis
9 жыл бұрын
Why is he carrying all that gear? Does he like the sound it makes when he hits the rock? All racked up and no place to pro.
@Northernblades
9 жыл бұрын
joynthis I posted this over a year ago. Likes to look cool is all I could think. If you want to laugh even harder, Imagine, that he wasn't even the one that put the gear cluster in 1/2 way. Don't even know if he has ever placed a piece of gear. But it sure does gingle nice. PS I am absolutely sure, I could stuff a tri-cam in at 1:36. You can not tell me, I could not get a tri in there, I know it would fit. it always fits.
@joynthis
9 жыл бұрын
Northernblades Yeah, tri-cams rule in horizontal cracks, and they don't require any math to place.
@Northernblades
9 жыл бұрын
joynthis If there are no placements, and he has no tricams why bring an entire rack (or a short rack?) It would have been more useful to climb with a teady bear. At least it might have cushioned his fall.
@ianwebb6182
9 жыл бұрын
joynthis 95% of my climbing is on gritstone - cams are by far the most common. Rarely seen anyone with tricams. I think its most down to that cams work extremely well for gritstone clmbing. Still - i'd love to try some - might scan ebay for 1 and try it out
@Northernblades
9 жыл бұрын
They... have their uses. Not for everything, but they do a few things very well. I bring them on sport climbs for when good climbs go bad. Just like offset nuts, some of my favourite bits to have with me when I need them.
@ninjafu1961
9 жыл бұрын
Why does he have so much gear on him you don't need that much for a belay at the top.
@cwadub
9 жыл бұрын
Smart belayer wearing helmet to protect from falling climber
@dancer1
3 жыл бұрын
😂
@TheScreamingSeal
9 жыл бұрын
That was a great fall by him, saved himself from hitting sideways or getting turned around
@Gyntster
9 жыл бұрын
I get the whole thing at The Grit, which is either on-sight or 'Headpoint' with either a TR or a certain amount of pre-inspection. The place has a sturdy history for impeccable style, and you will not find a single bolt on any routes, so the climbs can be scary & dangerous. Knowing that, I have a question: How come only the belayer wears a helmet? The leader obviously knew that this route is infamous for the long fall potential, so why not put on the lid? Severe brain injury with all the recovery and potential for massive life changes, like leaking fluids and getting fed with tubes in a bed in yer mum's living room, are too big of a risk to outweigh whatever costs there were to putting on a comfortable, light weight, modern helmet.
@dude20002002
9 жыл бұрын
I think most climbers consider helmets as protection from falling objects only. Gritstone, especially in the highly climbed areas in the UK has a very low chance of rockfall occurring. Personally I wear a helmet when climbing on the grit but I can see that here the belayer was protecting himself from the falling climber (presumably) but the climber did not feel the need to put one on. Obviously there is still the risk of hitting your head against the rock in a fall but climbing is all about accepting certain amounts of risk. For myself, and presumably you as well, the risk of brain injury in a fall is too great to skip out on the helmet for this guy he sees it differently.
@Gyntster
9 жыл бұрын
dude20002002 Good points made here Mate, and the real issue here is that there is a severe difference between 'creating' and 'accepting' Risk: by NOT wearing a helmet, the leader in this film is, indeed, creating risk. He has already accepted the obvious risk by taking on this route, which has a fierce reputation, but his hubris in leaving the helmet behind is -to me- unacceptable. I don't think he has fully addressed the extreme consequences he could avoid from a brain injury that could easily happen in a fall off the crux of this route. And, the real loosers here will be the ones who will be heavily impacted later -his Mum 7 Dad, people who love him, etc- BUT had no voice in the bad decision he made prior to his accident. Helmets these days are like a second skin, and you hardly know you have one on, so there are ZERO excuses for leaving them on the ground. You and I share this philosophy, and the lad's belayer should have taken the high road and insisted his friend wear the bucket...after all, it will fall upon the belayer to do all the initial bloody work when that skull cracks open, spilling its contents, right? But, then again, I'd wager that neither has any sort of wilderness first aid experience/training in the first place, but that is a different discussion all together...
@Gyntster
9 жыл бұрын
Macquaria Ambigua Indeed, gotta skull, so getta helmet!! Where I live there are five different types of rock within an hour's drive: Quartzite, granite, limestone, cobbles and metamorphic. The sheer variety invites one out to crag daily, and the different types of rock really enhance skills development. So, take a flight to Salt Lake City, grab the guide, bring a full rack, a 70 m rope and spend a month never climbing the same thing twice!! Cheers!
@Northernblades
9 жыл бұрын
Gyntster A better question would be why all the gear, if he knew there would be no opportunity to place ANY of it? at all? That is a HECK of a lot of gear to carry on a climb where you can not place any.
@Gyntster
9 жыл бұрын
Northernblades Totally agreed...why all that gear?
@grimlund
9 жыл бұрын
He still have a couple of meter left to the top when he falls. Imagine to fall right on the top. Holy crap.
@MrNickjberry
9 жыл бұрын
Can somebody explain to me why this guy is carrying 10lbs of draws and gear up this climb with him, when there are obviously very few if any good gear placements above the pre-fixed gear? Is he carrying dead weight to earn extra E point or maybe earn extra pints from his mates?
@cwadub
9 жыл бұрын
TheSlim He could be training, carrying the extra weight practice for big wall routes...
@cashmab
10 жыл бұрын
Sketch.
@jsollien127
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this video!
@chaseybears
10 жыл бұрын
It dont look much on the vid...but its a lot bloody harder when your on it....and for those full of advice and having a dig....get your arse on it before you comment. Unlucky fella...good effort tho.
@dancer1
3 жыл бұрын
Fax
@jolllyroger1
10 жыл бұрын
Funny he never says thanks for saving my as s.....lol He stopped 6 or 7 feet from the pain Excellent job belay man kudos on taking in a full arms length..... Constructive criticizim..... As belay you can and should insist on another anchor b4 giving your climber rope he can hang himself with..... You probably should have in this case but I'm sure you both looked at this and came to the same thoughts
@edwardlaw797
10 жыл бұрын
Be responsible for your family. Wear a helmet at least...
@seizethedayandlive
6 жыл бұрын
i was gonna say the same but figured someone else would have the same thought. it's funny that his partner (who at the time doesn't need it) is wearing one!
@lingen2193
6 жыл бұрын
Actually it makes even more sense for the belayer to wear a helmet as the climber coud drop or pull out some gear or kick down a lose rock. All of which could not only hurt the belayer but also knock him out and thus bring the climber into big trouble. Conversely, there is not much risk that the climber - when falling - hits something with his head (as can be seen in this video). I'm always amazed at how many people who are obviously totally clueless about climbing feel entitled to make smart ass comments.
@burnwash8174
10 жыл бұрын
Good color choice for the pants...
@miguelboisvert7375
10 жыл бұрын
that belayer sucked......
@menakles
10 жыл бұрын
Here's the description of the route from UKC for all you armchair heroes out there.."12m. One of the finest grit experiences. A tricky start gains a flake in the arete. This leads to a break, which needs packing with Friends, before the tasty finishing moves. Well worth attempting as a true ground-up, on-sight since commitment on the final move will be rewarded with success or flight-time." This confirms that there is no more gear after the break.
@Northernblades
9 жыл бұрын
menakles This armchair hero, asks why bring an entire rack with him? if there is no more placements?
@largeformatlandscape
5 жыл бұрын
@@Northernblades build a belay for your second?
@Northernblades
5 жыл бұрын
@@largeformatlandscape really, for serious? You think he was going to build anchor? And bring up 2nd? Hahahahaha funny. Dumb, but funny.
@largeformatlandscape
5 жыл бұрын
@@Northernblades why not? Who's going to get the gear out? Do you think they're going to clip in to some bolts and abseil down?
@Lorca38Palski
10 жыл бұрын
HELMET !
@hydr5
10 жыл бұрын
I don't think he has enough gear, he should bring more
@Super0062
10 жыл бұрын
..and he wasn't using it. He came within a few feet of hitting the ground before he stopped. Lesson learned, use anchors closer together so you don't fall so far.
@twobyfour
9 жыл бұрын
***** My thoughts exactly. Nowhere for protection on that top run anyway. Fortunate that he swung under that lower overhang too, or he`d have been bruised or winded.
@profd65
6 жыл бұрын
A bunch of climbing gym noobs in this thread, jealous that somebody actually knows how to use chocks.
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