Howbdidbu figure out the first #? Most of mine are inbetween. 70-74
@mattgallagher7105
Ай бұрын
Thank you. My safe was already open, and I didn't know the back cover came off, so was able to figure out the combination by watching the slots line up.
@sterlingchandler8254
Ай бұрын
You also didnt show how you come uo with 41.5 /7.5/82 bc yiu didnt get that combo by searching the gates like you showed in the beginning. Becuse all of the safes stoo on those same flase gates you showed in the begging. So you either new the combo alredy or found it in a different way that you didnt show
@sterlingchandler8254
Ай бұрын
This isn't true, bc mine does the samething in the exact same numbers
@94CivicCX
2 ай бұрын
144 combinations assuming you found the gate correctly.
@FattiesG0neWild
2 ай бұрын
I'm lost
@user-qi2iv8vj3p
3 ай бұрын
Ok makes sense till you go from 24 for 1st number and 15-18 on 2nd ect after 2 tries some how you go straight 82 then 41.5 then 7.5??????????? Makes no sense to me, bro??? How did you go from 24to 82and 15-18 to 41.5???????? Everyone arent Einsteins seriously
@Mr.Misconduct
3 ай бұрын
What model is this?😂
@gonzo_the_great1675
4 ай бұрын
There are 12 false gates, but 13 holes for that drive pin in wheel 3. So I wonder if that gives options of offsetting the pickup of wheel 2 and therefor making wheel 2 have more than 12 possible gate positions. Wheel 1 I am assuming to be identical to wheel 2, so would have an offset of the 12 positions, but fixed at factory.
@shiccup
6 ай бұрын
This video was so hard to understand can somebody explain
@kirkniles4184
8 ай бұрын
Do you have a video if the safe is open with no combination?
@kellibryant707
8 ай бұрын
Hi Frank. I am so happy to try your technique. I’m a bit confused but I’m sure i can do it even if it takes time. I have the same model that was my parents and they don’t remember the combination. When I was younger I got a bike lock the 2nd try but that was just luck. I have been interested in opening locks since then. I will let you know how it works out for me.
@keithsheffield9154
9 ай бұрын
Do you have the links to the other videos that you mentioned?
@martylondre3887
9 ай бұрын
If you get bored of trying the correct combo there is a reverse combo that will open the safe same fixed gates just reversed. Just sayn
@hannahg5216
10 ай бұрын
This is where the 3rd wheel metaphor came from?
@SpiritintheSky.
10 ай бұрын
Fascinating and impressive. Very enjoyable. Thank you.
@calholli
11 ай бұрын
If you still have this safe. Reach up in the top left of your safe (or just look up there)-- you will feel a couple of tracts: that black tray in the bottom of your safe is supposed to slide in those tracts and hang from the ceiling like a drawer. I have the same safe as you.
@calholli
11 ай бұрын
Does anyone know the name of this model? I have this same one and I can't seem to find any info about it at all.
@CentralNintendo1
11 ай бұрын
if they wouldnt have had the false gates, it would be more secure. With the false gates as you explained it was only 144 combinations. If there were no gates you could find the last number with 100% certainty but it would leave the other two wheels at 10000 combinations. In other words, their 'security" did exactly the opposite.
@thatguy_520
Жыл бұрын
Is there a certain website that would generate all of the posible combonations?
@Nunez_FGC
Жыл бұрын
I just physically busted one of these open. White powder launched out of it. What is it?
@user-qb8mu2xn3m
Жыл бұрын
How can I find a combination with where the testicle scope the thing to listen to your
@yahyamahmud4045
Жыл бұрын
What happens when theres a difrerence of 4 for all false gates, so its impossible to differentiate what the 3rd gate is?
@zarooksamsudeen5239
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it that you have shared your knowledge so that I could try to open my sage for which the numbers are forgotten.
@frankrood8464
Жыл бұрын
I hope things work out well for you Zarook! Best regards, Frank.
@ashlaunicaalpari4584
Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏 It’s the clearing 3 times left to start that was my problem also.
@edisonwanderaraujo8305
Жыл бұрын
Cofre muito fraco Não tem disco falso
@jakeblack212
Жыл бұрын
So Do spin till i hear the first gate and push the handle down,to get the numbers? then continue spinning till I get the next numbers?
@gmp3244
Жыл бұрын
Great Video! I have the same exact safe cemented in my house. the home owner gave us two possible codes and neither worked. I found this video and was excited to see there may be a way to crack this using the gate discovery method you present. I ended up finding what I believed to be 12 gates, used the middle number in each gate, and eventually came up with a excel spreadsheet list of 122 possible combinations. Unfortunately I couldn't get the safe open still. wondering what I could have possibly done wrong? I guess its possible I didn't get the gates correct and thus the combination list was not accurate. My hand was getting tired from resetting the dial each try and maybe that ended up The interesting thing is that one of the codes on my spreadsheet was the number the previous home owner provided to us...strange. I'd pay a locksmith to get this open if the safe can still be used....maybe I'll try this entire process again and see if that works at all.
@gmp3244
Жыл бұрын
I'm determined to get this safe open. I went through the dial 3 times carefully and recorded the number ranges and have my spreadsheet..so far no luck....starting to think either the safe is broken, or maybe I'm dialing the codes incorrectly.
@yahyamahmud4045
Жыл бұрын
Ever figure out the problem?
@the420gorilla5
Жыл бұрын
Nobody wants to pay me to do this anymore. they just want me to drill and repair it. I think part of the problem is safes are so cheap now and can be bought anywhere now.
@jakeblack212
Жыл бұрын
I'd pay a reasonable amount
@jakeblack212
Жыл бұрын
It seams like I can write all 100 numbers down when I do the test, Where do i start on the dial for the test?
@frankrood8464
Жыл бұрын
Hi Jake, Thanks for your question. Which test are you referring to? I would expect when you try find the possible gates, you end up with less than 100 numbers, in my case I ended up with 12 numbers. Best regards, Frank
@jakeblack212
Жыл бұрын
@@frankrood8464 i can find the two gates but 3 no
@frankrood8464
Жыл бұрын
@@jakeblack212 If you have the first 2 numbers for the first 2 gates, then you can indeed try out 100 different positions for the 3rd gate. Which is doable. Probably you'll find the right position before you tried all 100. Hope this works. Frank
@debestevanal964
Жыл бұрын
i smell dutch
@jakeblack212
Жыл бұрын
How much pressure do you push down on the handle?
@frankrood8464
Жыл бұрын
Hi Jake, lightly, just rest your hand on the handle, no additional force. Of course, it depends on how old, lubricated / dry / rusty the mechanism is. Hope this helps. Kind regards, Frank
@jakeblack212
Жыл бұрын
@@frankrood8464 I got my safe new in 1979
@jakeblack212
Жыл бұрын
if get the first 2 number the 3rd is easy
@williamtpenningtonart
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this detailed video. It was interesting to watch someone who isn't "an expert" in combination lock manipulation to solve this through reason. I'm new to these locks, but I pick pin tumbler locks as a hobby.
@frankrood8464
Жыл бұрын
Nice hobby William, have fun! Frank
@RMB123
Жыл бұрын
一起研究学习
@donaldburchell6746
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. I am working on a similar sentry safe. I was wondering if you discover why you got a second click that clued you into the second number. I may have missed it in the video. While looking at the mechanism were you able to reproduce that situation?
@frankrood8464
Жыл бұрын
With trying out all remaining combinations (3rd wheel on one value and varying 2nd and 1st number), I found 2 occurrences where the second wheel was on the same number (see video minute 13:45). There the handle outside could be moved a bit further with a different sound, the 'click'. Indeed when you look at the inside mechanism this is what you see: the 3rd wheel has an 'open gate', so the latch slides in, and at the same time the 2nd wheel has an 'open gate' to allow for the latch to slide in. The latch than hits the 1st wheel after some movement and provides the click sound. Good luck with your safe. Frank
@MikailStoner
Жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to just knock out the hinge bolts (like a bedroom door) and walk the door open?
@frankrood8464
Жыл бұрын
Nope. The bolts are protected and cannot be reached.
@shark70007000
Жыл бұрын
My brother in law loaned me his safe door, to practice with. It's just a round section, for an old floor safe. It has 4 numbers. The way the fence, or latch is designed, it's at an angle, so you can only figure out the last two numbers. There is no way for it to touch the first two wheels, to hear it hit a gate. You can feel and hear, when it catches the next wheel, but there are no false gates. You just have to know where to stop for the first two numbers. Since it turns so many times, to get the next wheel's gate to line up, it always pushes the latch out of the way, and never comes close to the gates, on the first two wheels.
@frankrood8464
Жыл бұрын
Quite a challenge Mark. Did you get it open in the end? Frank
@shark70007000
Жыл бұрын
@@frankrood8464 It is just the lockimg mechanism. It isn't on the safe. It's just the door. It seems impossible to hear or feel the the firs two number. From feel and noise, I can figure out the 4th and 3rd numbers. Since it rotates so many times to catch the next dial, the other number dials never touch the gate or fence. So I believe it is a well designed safe lock. You would have to drill a hole to see from the front.
@annblachly8068
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. We hadn't used the safe in some time. Hubby had a memory of a range of three numbers that he said made a math equation when I continued to query him and I played with the dial. As it turns out those three number ranges were standing out, along with a few others. But as he finally given me enough clues I used those numbers as a careful range to dial to that I remembered dial locks use. Clear right 3 times, left to the number, to the right passing the second number once and then left to the last number. Yet I had to turn to the right to have it pop open. Just like the directions said on the combination card that was inside. I began around 2330 and popped it open around 0100.
@frankrood8464
Жыл бұрын
Well done!
@Ghost_Os
Жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm curious: how big (diameter) are the actual wheels in the pack compared to the outer rim of the dial?
@frankrood8464
Жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks! The diameters of the gate wheels are about 60% of the largest diameter of the external dial.
@hlyautey
Жыл бұрын
We bought a safe at a yard sale years ago without the combination. I have tried a few times to open it. I think it is a big assumption that gates 1 and 2 will fall in line with a false gate on 3.
@frankrood8464
Жыл бұрын
My assumption is the opposite: the numbers don't align. And gate 3 is not false. Did you watch the video? I hope you get it open. Kind regards, Frank
@hlyautey
Жыл бұрын
@@frankrood8464 I did watch the video. My tumblers were a little more advanced but after an hour or so I got it open. I found a couple of numbers that felt different and with some trial and error it worked,
@frankrood8464
Жыл бұрын
@@hlyautey Great! Well done!
@lilbear19601
10 ай бұрын
@hlyautey N0 thank you nor apology for telling the man he was wrong when he wasnt?
@hlyautey
10 ай бұрын
@@lilbear19601 I never said he was wrong. I got my safe open and his video helped. My wheels have slots cut in them and false gates are every 10 numbers. It was more difficult. Now you owe me an apology.
@chitkochitko6248
Жыл бұрын
နားမလည်လို့
@chitkochitko6248
Жыл бұрын
Hello
@frederickfamilyfun117
Жыл бұрын
I have the combination and still can't get this safe open
@daniellewolfe4562
2 жыл бұрын
i have a meilink safe model 82-86594 without combo how do i figure out how many sets of # it is?
@frankrood8464
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Danielle, I am not familiar with the model you mention, I am sorry. You could try the proposed strategy on your safe and see if it works. Is there anyone reading this who has more information on this Meilink safe? Kind regards, Frank
@daniellewolfe4562
2 жыл бұрын
is meilink safe the same as sentry
@MommaARA
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Frank. I had to do some searching to find out how to open my dad's old safe. The combination was correct, but clearing the lock for zero was the problem. In these older models one must clear the lock from 0 going to the left (counter clockwise) 3 FULL times, on the fourth a person should go straight to their first number. Next, they should go to right 1 FULL turn passing the first number and going to their second. Finally, they should turn the dial left again to the third number. The trick is in the clearing the lock to zero to start over. Newer models go opposite of this combination. Also the gears inside should be greased 1 time a year. It says with a graphite penetrating oil or light household oil. The plate is held on by one screw so easy to get to. I hope this helps someone else. Finding the answer was a pain.
@frankrood8464
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for figuring out the original sequence! I also hope this helps others in their persuit to get their safe open. Kind regards, Frank
@ignaciostruquebarrientos9808
Жыл бұрын
Amanda I am really really grateful for your comment. I had the same problem, and today after a year of trying combinations I read your comment I could finally open my grandfather's safety. He is so happy right now and all because of you. Greetings from Chile 🇨🇱
@amandaburnham8626
6 ай бұрын
You are a Saint! We've been trying to open my dad's safe for at least an hour and I tried looking for an indepth video. I was listening while scrolling through the comments and found yours. I tried it and worked 1st time! We had the combination but we couldn't get it to open. I can't thank you enough for your clear instructions! ❤
@zzyzxRDFwy15
2 жыл бұрын
I don't fully understand. Why must the 1st and 2nd number be located only at the middle between the false gate bumps on the 3rd guard wheel? Couldn't the 1st and 2nd numbers be set to a number that was a number at the top of a bump on the 3rd wheel or at the actual gate on the 3rd wheel?
@frankrood8464
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for your question. The 1st could certainly be the same number as the actual gate of the 3rd. 2nd and 3rd cannot be the same due to mechanical limitations. 1st and 2nd cannot be the same either. The reason to use the middle between the bumps is just a tolerance thing. There is some room (play) in the gate and the chance to hit right increases if you optimize for maximum play on both sides. Hope this helps. Kind regards, Frank
@zzyzxRDFwy15
2 жыл бұрын
@@frankrood8464 I ran though the list of all possible combination numbers but my list excluded the 3rd gate number as a possibility for gates 1 or 2. I didn't have any luck opening the Sentry safe. I'll add in the 3rd gate number as a possible candidate for the 1st wheel gate number in my list of possible combinations and it try again. Sentry Safe Combination Number rules: 1st gate number could be the same as the 3rd gate number 2nd gate number cannot be the same as the 3rd gate number 1st gate number and 2nd gate number cannot be the same number These Sentry Safe model numbers are covered by the same owner's manual so I assume the lock mechanisms on these models are all the same: 1230, 1250 1310, 1330, 1380 1400, 2200, 2230, 2280 Thanks!
@gmp3244
Жыл бұрын
@@zzyzxRDFwy15 I dealt with the same thing. Did you have any luck after using Gate 3 number for Gate 1?
@zzyzxRDFwy15
Жыл бұрын
@@gmp3244 No, I gave up after trying for a long time. I still have the safe and I'll start all over and try again. It's frustrating after trying for so long. One of more of the numbers must be something else than the number at the middle of the gate.
@calistabliss6401
2 жыл бұрын
Im really trying!😟 my dad died and we cant open it😢the combination is wrong that my mom wrote down 😞
@frankrood8464
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Calista, My condolences. What you could try is start the other way around, e.g. 1st left, 2nd right, 3rd left turn OR 1st right, 2nd left, 3rd right. Make sure when turning the consecutive numbers not to overshoot, so move the dial slowly towards the number. If all fails see if you can find a lockpicking enthousiast, engineer or locksmith. She/he can what the video if needed I try to open your safe. Hope things work out for you. Kind regards, Frank
@chitkochitko6248
Жыл бұрын
Hello
@richardhaen
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Frank, that was very good and interesting I have to try it when I get another safe to open.
@frankrood8464
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Richard, thanks for your nice feedback. Good luck with your next safe! Frank
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