The 24 hour rule is very common in dbt therapy, because it prevents reinforcement of borderline behavior, because many mental hospitals reinforce people's behavior, and not moving forward in recovery hospitals get people stuck, same with group homes. It all makes sense.
@jellophant9716
28 күн бұрын
I have been diagnosed with BPD and what marsha does in this video is evil. She doesnt understand the patient who is obviously the victim NOT marsha. My psychiatrist who I have been seeing steadily for YEARS would not employ any of these techniques. After all this time I consider her one of my best friends. I couldn't be friends with someone like dr linehan.
@christinewarren9660
Ай бұрын
Wow. I didn't realize how uncooperative some people can be when they suffer from mental ilnness like this. This was so helpful.
@AllTaxisRYellow
Ай бұрын
This is an evil power hungry woman who doesn’t have BPD and is only looking for a behavior-changing cookie cutter therapy for power and moneh
@raffaelepresti6880
Ай бұрын
Simply WOW! As a therapist, this was absolutely outstanding to watch. She is skillfully dodging any manipulation attempt, holding the therapeutic frame, re-focusing the patient on the problem, and helping them to come up with their own solution in a rationale way. All in a single go. Chapeu.
@susuyaag3755
2 ай бұрын
sorry the patient is way too nice to stay on that chair.. I was expecting much more from Marsha. Her questions are just way too dragged and if I was in that chair I will lose hope. Ill see the next part maybe there is more in that. I still have hope in DBT so ill watch more of Marshas videos and read more about her and DBT
@libracircusairs
2 ай бұрын
Marsha is hilarious. It's awesome to see these videos after reading her memoir.
@jaliselbrown
2 ай бұрын
These videos are very helpful for me. They help me to empathize with this set of issues and how hurtful they can feel to a client. I have watched several of her videos today and they are helping me understand the impact of DBT for not only people with personality disorders but even defense mechanisms I have developed over the years to deal with feelings of anxiety. Very good work, thanks for sharing @Damien
@juanjoseredondo2314
5 ай бұрын
16:04. That Lineham's answer is gold.
@TheHorus471
Ай бұрын
Indeed, being open and recognizing that conversation going of track is valuable in situations like these. People with personality disorders are especially tired of therapists who project themselved as all knowing masters/mistress of the mind and when this ilussion eventually shatters, patients would actually lose trust of the whole process. It is much better to be open up like this and try to understand together.
@antoniocarlosburinsammarti915
5 ай бұрын
oh boy, where´s the rest of this? I mean, just when things were going to her more important feedback about the self-harm behavior, come on, now.
@mountainwoodcamp1638
5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@c.brownell8618
6 ай бұрын
Persistence, not giving up herself, respecting the patient's need for privacy...respect for Marsha Linehan.
@ZahraTarighi-m9q
7 ай бұрын
ترجمه فارسي نداره ؟
@AlexRyan
7 ай бұрын
Is there a part 4?
@randypradhana1000
7 ай бұрын
The annoying thing about bpd is their tends to fault everybody but themselves especially their closest ones, and playing victim in every drama their made.
@warriorsfan96
8 ай бұрын
Why’s her full name? For both people
@warriorsfan96
8 ай бұрын
This is old as shit
@michellefreeman777
8 ай бұрын
The absence of self responsibility is the first issue I see.
@JohnNicholson-zo5dv
7 ай бұрын
Dude. This disorder is about maladaptive responses to stressors. Those responses create further stress, and then the person responds again with a maladaptive response and the cycle continues. DBT aims to break this cycle.
@mauramicheletti3950
6 ай бұрын
Yes the incapacity of holding own responsability is an issue for borderline human beings😢
@FrancesWalshe1
8 ай бұрын
More empathy from the tx … sounds too anxiety ridden… needs to be the opposite
@debrafiorillo1343
8 ай бұрын
I wish she was my therapist!!!
@Yetipfote
9 ай бұрын
the most difficult thing with borderlines is to keep in the Flow because they are very chaotic. You have to be like water, my friend. At the same time you have to be someone. A person with boundaries but they always test and hop over the boundaries because they don't feel them. "Well, I promised this but now I'm feeling like doing the opposite and I don't see what effect this has on me or the person I promised this to."
@Yetipfote
9 ай бұрын
cannot believe how good and convincing that role play was.
@JohnGeranien
6 ай бұрын
The student did a fantastic job!
@jsolare8741
10 ай бұрын
Traduzioni per favoreeeee in italiano oportoguese 😢🙏😊
@Fisherkiller64
10 ай бұрын
Professional specialist.
@AllTaxisRYellow
Жыл бұрын
This discredits those people who are actually specific. This screws and fake situation are so vague
@oscaramarolopezzuniga6755
8 ай бұрын
it’s just to show the flow of the therapy, and the technique, not the case indeed
@AllTaxisRYellow
Жыл бұрын
I truly don’t understand how one woman can be credited with creating a standard of living that so many institutions make money off of. Did she take others people’s credit? Literally the DBT Handout lists one creator/author. I doubt her so much.
@sangeetabansal1258
10 ай бұрын
A bit harsh… I recommend reading her memoir… it’s very moving and will show you the long arduous road Marsha had to be on to develop what she truly believed in … including getting trained as a zen master
@JohnGeranien
6 ай бұрын
It’s the learned helplessness part that’s speaking. Same line of thought as ‘how can this person possibly help me?’ I can relate to this
@elfy5066
25 күн бұрын
Because she’s dedicated her whole life to it
@jamjolise4683
Жыл бұрын
People laughing? This isn’t a joke…the audience should be prepped ahead of the session on how to listen with quiet respect.
@vladimations7961
8 ай бұрын
The lady playing the role of the patient is a graduate student and they are demonstrating a therapy session. It’s safe
@katherinelalli776
Жыл бұрын
I had a DBT therapist coerce me into "ECT consultation" because the therapist didn't know what she was doing, wasn't in consultation (She yelled at me, "I wouldn't need consultation if it wasn't for you!"). She ended therapy with no warning because her life was out of control (she told me her colleagues filed a complaint against her because they were racist and her daughter was having trouble at school because the teachers and other students were racist and her husband was cold and distant and she felt all alone).
@katherinelalli776
Жыл бұрын
Does she address akathisia caused by psych polypharmacy which causes people to be suicidal?
@beepbopboop7727
2 ай бұрын
Maybe finish watching the video and answer the question yourself.
@faithevolution552
Жыл бұрын
She needs her meds...mood stabilizers, antidepressants, anxiety pills, nutrition supplements...that will help her feel well enough to get herself living a life that she loves....I have severe BPD and I have psychiatrist and a therapist....I CAN HELP her feel better in a week or less...then she can start therapy and continue on her meds and get the support that she really needs... Please, Please reach out to me as soon as you can.
@plusfuture
Жыл бұрын
the mmhmm at 22:47 😭😭
@plusfuture
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for uploading these
@MinaLynLane-dg4yi
Жыл бұрын
Marsha is incredible
@flambr
Жыл бұрын
line I've heard more than once "yaknow if ur dead the therapy isnt gonna work" or "well the problem with repeatedly attempting is that its not very sustainable, I mean, you might die"
@RobinHerzig
Жыл бұрын
Wish we could see the rest of what was cut off + the Q+A that followed 😕
@KaylaMarie-ox8le
Жыл бұрын
8:50 the client brings up a good point. She talks to the patient later, instead of addressing the initiate suicidality? Sounds damaging and potentially life threatening. Also she admitted to going into this with a passive aggressive, and covertly hostile attitude.
@KaylaMarie-ox8le
Жыл бұрын
@@cherrynado are you a therapist, or do you have some bad experiences with someone with BPD? Are you BPD yourself? Why are you generalizing? Lots of people with BPD get really suicidal and do attempt. Some succeed. Even if they are doing it for attention, my guess is the attention is to get help. At any rate, I’m sure it's not always for attention.
@kindnessasgreatasthesea1158
10 ай бұрын
My perception is that she is in fact addressing the suicidality. In this case, the suicidality is not caused by a major depressive episode, but rather it seems to be a consequence of rumination around ideas of worthlessness, helplessness and paranoia. So if the rumination is prevented or halted, the suicidality/self-harming behavior will likely not surface.
@beepbopboop7727
2 ай бұрын
Its inappropriate for a therapist to be at a clients beck and call because then dependancy can happen. A safety plan is a better way of dealing with suicidality.
@spearmint4093
Жыл бұрын
is this staged?
@hiyorioh
8 ай бұрын
Yes
@beepbopboop7727
2 ай бұрын
Its acted not staged.
@CarniBarbie
Жыл бұрын
I resonate with this girl so much! 😩 Wish I could find and afford this therapy.
@alexkiddonen
Жыл бұрын
same
@drj4u2b
8 ай бұрын
Do what most of my American clients do, take online therapy with board certified therapists abroad... Here in Ecuador we DBT therapists charge between 50 USD to 110 USD, depending on our location.
@jaliselbrown
2 ай бұрын
Hey, have you been able to get into therapy yet?
@lilalaunelove
Жыл бұрын
I LOVE to see how Marsha assumes competence in her client, that she can come up with a better solutions and strategies 👏
@mohamadrezasoltani9126
Жыл бұрын
I don't like the doctor 😕 She's too aggressive with it like calm down bro she cut herself open
@beepbopboop7727
2 ай бұрын
I understand. It may seem harsh and maybe it is. However she is probably trying not to positively reinforce the behaviour which can be a cutting motivation in people with BPD.
@kcainsmith2
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic acting job. I feel as if I know this person.
@margarethakloots5287
Жыл бұрын
Very real
@BloodAndGutsTV
Жыл бұрын
Marsha's basically victim blaming.
@thatonegirl6880
Жыл бұрын
Or is it a major part of a Personality Disorder to always take on the victim stance when they are not always the victim?? Maybe you should do research that isn’t on tic tok
@thatonegirl6880
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I don’t see victim blaming, all I seen in the video is Marsha refocusing the client on what she has control over. You can ONLY change what YOU can control. If you have a therapist that lets you focus on everything you can’t control (other peoples behaviors) than you have a bad therapist because nothing in your life will ever change.
@lilalaunelove
Жыл бұрын
I don't see where she is blaming here - for me it looks like Linehan is trying to empower that Lady. Assisting in shifting her attention to gain awareness of everything that led to the incident and trying to make her realize all the other options she has. Such a gift! That Lady unfortunately is refusing to take her advice - and then blames Marsha for not helping her. She makes a victim out of herself(at least during the excerpt), which is sad because she could take responsibility for herself and live a life worth living and be proud of herself when she handles hardship. I would ask why one would ever choose to be a victim but I know from experience how much work it takes to come out of that.
@amanjyotdhanoa1169
10 ай бұрын
@dinahn6955just curious could you explain how that’s not a good sign?
@bobastonisher4014
5 күн бұрын
@lilalaunelove "She is sadly not taking any responsibility". Please explain to me how this statement is not victim blaming.
@AlinaBefu
2 жыл бұрын
The person acting as the client is not very good
@beepbopboop7727
2 ай бұрын
She is a brilliant actor wth are you talking about.
@cherylmcdonnell1182
2 жыл бұрын
I love the confidence Marsha has in the patient's ability to come up with answers for herself. Also reminds her of what they have already talked about. Marsha identifies the core of the problem being ruminating.
@bonitabrandt5286
2 жыл бұрын
I don't see how this doctor could help anyone...the patients seem to just want to be heard, and she acts like a jerk....my gosh, any average person could give more validation.
@queeryful
2 жыл бұрын
If she gave out praise for little stuff, it wouldn't be worth much.
@sMiley171296
2 жыл бұрын
She is expressing boundaries clearly and consistently, I guess you could say that that also is a form of validation, to communicate the rules openly and repeat them as often as it is needed. She is taking the patient seriously, listening to the fact, that she wants to talk about how therapy is not working, offers her autonomy in repeatedly asking her in what order she wants to talk about things. In the emotional turmoil the patient seems to be in, swept away by hopelessness/frustration it is vital to be structured for the situation not to spiral. She is a living example of how not to give in to chaos - something the client needs to learn and committed to. Also Dr Linehan is holding her responsible for how she can use the time of the session inside the rules they agreed upon. If she is able to follow the rules, talk through the self harm etc. there also is space for the things she brought into the session. And turn the situation around: if you stopped taking self harm etc. seriously meaning not speaking about it, that would be invalidating! As the client said: she cut herself because she felt her life was shit. By taking self harm seriously, exploring why she did it, the therapist is not only helping her understand how these situations unfold and how to intervene, but she also expresses, that it does matter, if she hurts herself, that she matters.
@matthewcook9531
2 жыл бұрын
Validation isn't just "oh that sounds so difficult, of course you would feel that way." I think it's a bit ignorant to say that the creator of the most well-researched and gold standard treatment for borderline personality disorder couldn't help anyone.
@dorukcansev
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree, just came for this comment. Even during the patient's most agitated moments, she seems more concerned about the furniture or the clock than her. No human empathy whatsoever, just mechanical & tense approach. I respect Marha Linehan for her work but that was just a disappointing demonstration. More like an uptight mum or boss than a caring therapist.
@christinekohler4951
Жыл бұрын
@@queeryful *
@bonitabrandt5286
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think the doctor knows what she's doing...very harsh and uncaring attitude...it's like she's trying to antagonize the patient.
@matthewcook9531
2 жыл бұрын
Marsha Linehan? She literally wrote the book on treatment of borderline personality disorder
@BloodAndGutsTV
Жыл бұрын
@@matthewcook9531 Yeah but it's shit. I've went to DBT for a year and it's a load of money-making quack! It may help people with mild anxiety but other than that, it's a joke.
@dariashevchenko708
Жыл бұрын
@@BloodAndGutsTV yes, because it isn't supposed to be used for patients with anxiety, it's originally for bpd folks (no gatekeeping tho)
@amanjyotdhanoa1169
10 ай бұрын
@@BloodAndGutsTV it really depends on whether YOU as a patient are willing to change and learn and put what you are learning into everyday practice. Some people end up repeating DBT a second or third time and I assume it’s really up to the patient whether they are ready for change or not. It’s totally okay if you aren’t open and ready for it but I hope you are someday
@nathanielcatchings7335
8 ай бұрын
@@BloodAndGutsTVif they were treating anxiety with DBT then maybe they were a quack. It usually is the tool for BPD; CBT or maybe solution focused approach is something for more appropriate for anxiety
@poochini7272
2 жыл бұрын
this actress nailed this performance! Learned so much!
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