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@djnapkin
4 күн бұрын
Thanks for putting this up. I was considering getting one. These should cost $10 based on whats in them!
@gliscoman
15 күн бұрын
This is a scam! It does not work and when you contact them, they offer to return the item for a refund. Which i did. And then they just stopped answering my emails!!
@user-pn7eg2ln6l
18 күн бұрын
I was touring overseas recently and the lead rider had one. Drove me insane following him as until I asked him why he continuously hits his brakes and he said he had one I always thought we were going into a sharp bend. Dam unsafe as you end up ignoring his brake lights.
@safety_dave
17 күн бұрын
That's crazy - hopefully they will remove it....
@tgltd1322
20 күн бұрын
I recently fitted this same module and removed it immediately. Wish I had seen this video before purchase but it is what it is and it will now live in file B1N for eternity. Probably worse than actually slowing down without it fitted. Most vulnerable road users aswell and they try and make us fit this kind of rubbish. It's not looking good for the team at st2. Scammers.
@brucemacpherson5664
Ай бұрын
Thanks,,,, guess I will save some $$ also.... no need for this item..
@lordkryogen
Ай бұрын
Thats why my wife reported my brake light flashes all the time. Bad roads here. I think I'll just remove it.
@Hyttenasau
Ай бұрын
Great review, only thing is how it’s being mounted, if it’s tilted too much forward, this could happen. I’m not saying I know anything, but just thinking. I was thinking about buying one, but I won’t do it now 😃 thanks for the advice.
@bradfieldb
Ай бұрын
Sorry you had to pay for this but thank you for sharing, thought these were for engine braking !!!
@Chumpy0071
Ай бұрын
Good Test - almost bought this - piece of junk
@John_Ridley
2 ай бұрын
Matches my experience. I bought one and it's useless. Flashes my light all the time on even the slightest bump in the road. And for the money back guarantee, they require you to ship it back to Slovenia. That costs $50 or more from the US.
@hitechrr
2 ай бұрын
Mine doesn't work at all anymore.
@fishyfish6768
2 ай бұрын
I’ve had the strobe module for months sitting on my bench waiting for me to install. Went to install this morning but am thinking of skipping it because of this review.
@safety_dave
2 ай бұрын
Definitely something to think about. I think the strober installs directly in the brake circuit such that if it fails you will lose your brake light completely. If you do go ahead and install it, double check the lug crimps. On mine the lugs were crimped with the wrong die and were over compressed/crushed. A small amount of movement and the few remaining strands of wire broke clean off. If I had not caught that and installed it, probably would have broken and lost my brake light completely.
@sleemanman9188
2 ай бұрын
I almost always do some research before buying something... and i was seriously thinking about buying this device because i'm a new rider and where i live, there are many trucks driving faster than they should (62mph in a 50mph zone) which makes it unsafe and even dangerous for folks like me driving and/or riding at 50mph. When i slow down to enter my driveway, i always fear a truck might rear end me. Some follow so close behind it's crazy!!! I've learned during my riding lessons that we must "tap" our rear brake in order to signal to whoever is behind that we're slowing down BUT the reality is : i don't always think about doing it. Besides, for my motorcycle, i have to tap hard to make the light come on. Could it be that it just needs to be adjusted !? 🤔 Anyways, thanks for this info you shared. Won't be buying this. But gotta ask : is there something out there that actually does work well ??
@safety_dave
2 ай бұрын
Maybe checkout the Brakefree helmet light. It appears to provide a braking protective function and being up higher it might be a better location for others to see. I have not researched it yet, so I cannot comment on how well the braking/deceleration function works. There appears to be quite a few videos on it to check out. If I decide to try one I may post a video down the road....
@sleemanman9188
2 ай бұрын
@@safety_dave yeah i checked it out already and personally, i don't like that system. Anyways, since my original reply above, i found how to adjust the brake light on my kawasaki and now, my brake light comes on with only a slight tap on my rear brake lever. So instead of buying a gadget, i will learn to do it the proper way.
@Sonriseinc
2 ай бұрын
I was a sucker and bought one. Goes off with every bump on the road. Worthless and customer service does not respond.
@robo707
2 ай бұрын
Great video. Really misleading not having an accelerometer and just a basic mechanical tilt switch. Good job ! Rob -UK
@DaveHines1
3 ай бұрын
I suppose an inclined mercury switch / tilt switch can indicate acceleration , however I agree it’s also so susceptible to vibration as well it’s pretty much useless. My dashcam has accelerometers I believe , and those values are all over the place so I suspect anything actually attached to the bike itself is unlikely to give any meaningful results 😞 Also thanks for convincing me that anything to do with motorbikes advertised on Facebook is likely to be a scam . Thanks for making this video. 😃🍻
@nigel1950
3 ай бұрын
Thanks buddy....you've already made my decision!!!
@jimbossimrigs7961
3 ай бұрын
Thanks this has saved me buying. I am going with the BrakeFree rear helmet mount.
@danielg2754
3 ай бұрын
Appreciate the time/effort to share this video…helped me decide.
@lancelemay6971
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for saving me some money. Almost bought one a moment ago until I found this video. I’ll pass…
@RandyNelson-yg8qm
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your post, I was going to install mine today,now I won't waste my day like I did my money!
@safety_dave
4 ай бұрын
Sorry you didn't see this sooner. Better a little waited money than lowering your safety margin...
@paulyflyer8154
4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much. You've just saved me a fair bit of money! The road surfaces are so bad around here, my brakes would be constantly flashing.
@safety_dave
4 ай бұрын
Glad I could help!
@antonym7704
4 ай бұрын
Mine is crap too it doesn’t work properly.
@harpersisland
4 ай бұрын
I don’t quite get it, if decelerating tap your brakes to flash your lights. Better still install a unit that gives three flashes when you tap your brakes, and three flashes and then solid when you go on the brakes. Tilt and whirl isn’t necessary.
@safety_dave
4 ай бұрын
I agree with you - just hit your brake when you start slowing down. They did make a "flasher" that does what you describe. I don't know if it's still on the market. I bought one also but never installed it. It had defective connections that would have failed (broken) over time. The really scary part is that it was installed directly in the brake light circuit. In that configuration any failure of a connection or the device would render your brake light completely non-functional.
@FinnyG47
4 ай бұрын
My wife had this added to her Triumph Street Cup 2017. 2024 now. Bike has only 4k miles on it, heated garage stored in winter and at the end of 2023 it became unreliable. I'm going to rip it out. Garbage that can be deadly.
@safety_dave
4 ай бұрын
I agree with you as it can be dangerous - just hit your brake when you start slowing down. They also make/made a "flasher" that is/was supposed to flashed the brake 3 times and then stay on. I don't know if it's still on the market. I bought one also but never installed it. It had defective connections that would have failed (broken) over time. The really scary part is that it would be installed directly in the brake light circuit. In that configuration any failure of a connection or the device would render your brake light completely non-functional.
@dietrichFett
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your good explication. I try to refund.
@safety_dave
4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@bradmottishaw467
4 ай бұрын
I bought one as well, but have not yet mounted it. I was wondering if where you have yours mounted, does it sit level with the ground when you are astride your bike? I have heard people saying that if not, then it will do this as well.
@safety_dave
4 ай бұрын
I did try varying the mounting position but still had the same issue. There are apparently at least 2 different versions of this out there. From what I have read, the older one seemed to work ok. But fundamentally, the tilt switch in mine (basically a BB in a metal can) is very susceptible to vibration and any forces from bumps, etc. Based on that, I don't think is would ever work properly. If you do install it, I would be interested in hearing your results....
4 ай бұрын
Thanks was just putting in an order for 3 wont bother now, great work x
@JonathanRegalo
5 ай бұрын
Exact same experience for me. It simply does not work. Their customer service was actually good and sent me a second one, but it fails in the exact same way. No amount of tilting backwards or forwards when mounting will correct the issues. It is flat out dangerous to install this on your bike.
@charlieamato7204
Ай бұрын
😂now I read those comments and think how dangerous it is if the guy behind thinks you are braking but not braking I would not have one in a million years. Another con to be ignored. August 2024.
@bertfriedman
5 ай бұрын
I literally have one of these arriving within 48 hours and after watching this I am pissed. I thank you so much for taking time to point this out. If this is indeed what is in those st2 units then we as bikers need to sound off on a grand scale.
@aikidokamks
3 ай бұрын
Just got mine today and it's the same board with the tilt switch. Rattles when I shake it. I'm not installing it
@tysonschroeter9431
5 ай бұрын
Glad you did this review… I added the helmet version of a gyrometer brake warning thing called brake free and that works great. No electrical to mess around with… easy solution.
@aikidokamks
3 ай бұрын
I have that as well. Just got the st2. Ordered before I saw this video. Opened it up and same board and tilt sensor and it rattles when shook. Not going to install it.
@peterk2455
5 ай бұрын
Far too many of these 'aides', or 'assists' being sold and placed on all manner of vehicles. The single best upgrade you can make to your bike, is yourself. Take a few kg off that spare tyre. Take an advanced riding course.Maintain yourself & your bike.
@alanbarrand796
5 ай бұрын
Wish I’d seen this before purchasing one. Absolutely useless. Flashes even with engine vibration. No amount of adjustment cures the problem . They did replace it, with the second one just as bad. Beware!!
@richardwitherstone7396
5 ай бұрын
Well that's just saved me a few quid! Well done and thanks for posting this👍🏻
@Disrvptive
6 ай бұрын
Yes this module doesn't work. I ended up removing it and installed a better product
@foxonline2080
2 ай бұрын
Hi there! Please name the better product. Thanks!
@samgab
6 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks for posting this. I'm glad I watched this video before throwing away money on essentially snake oil.
@MrEye4get
7 ай бұрын
The video is relatively current, but are you testing an older version? The product description by ST2 is as follows: ST2 Brake Module uses an accelerometer and motion detection sensors combined with a proprietary algorithm to detect engine braking or down-shifting. It’s an intelligent system that doesn’t interfere with the actual brake light operation. It simply senses when the bike is slowing down and operates the brake light in situations when you’re not actually applying the brake.
@SikterEfendi
6 ай бұрын
I tested two, and so did other people who posted here. "Intelligent system" it is not - and there is just one simple tip switch and a relay. No advanced logic of any kind, let alone any effin' "algorithm". There is no "new version", just the same crap in a slightly different package.
@Digger456437
7 ай бұрын
I appreciate your taking the time to post this. I was going to order two modules for my motorcycles today. Now I can save myself the headache. Thanks!
@safety_dave
7 ай бұрын
Glad I could help
@Pagoz21
7 ай бұрын
I found this video late, 😢 I Google st2 brake module because I installed mine and it didn't work, I placed the module under the pillion seat and since it's titled the lights are always on and barley flashes unless the road is rough... What a waste of money and really false advertising.
@safety_dave
7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you. At least you are not alone and know that you didn't install it wrong. Some have been able to adjust the angle of the box and get a better response with it. For me, after seeing how it was made I didn't bother trying to make it work better - I just don't trust it as a "safety device"....
@sponge9883
7 ай бұрын
Ditched mine - it was flashing more than a Vegas str1pper on m3th.
@safety_dave
7 ай бұрын
LOL!
@marksloan4722
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the heads up, was thinking of buying one but that test made my mind up. Not be putting one on my bike. Old finger over front brake does a better job. Safer too
@thedroningoflife
7 ай бұрын
I'm a new rider, that's what I thought and what I do👍
@safety_dave
7 ай бұрын
Great point and response - cover that brake and use it....
@stringstroker22
7 ай бұрын
I'm guessing you didn't read the instructions. It says you can manually adjust the sensitivity of the unit by tilting the device. Try this and see if it didn't work. I had to play around with the position of the module before I got the proper sensitivity dialed in.
@safety_dave
7 ай бұрын
I'm glad you were able to get it working satisfactorily. Yes, increasing the tilt angle will affect how the metal BB will respond to deceleration. Sadly it still does not work as truly intended, nor is it constructed as advertised. Since it is a safety device, I just cannot trust it based on my experience and findings...
@stevenm936
7 ай бұрын
Thank you for warning us ! Thank you !
@adivarso8175
7 ай бұрын
I bought a new old stock early version which can be flipped over and that has been working flawlessly. This one appears to be a step backwards in it's operation.
@RobLoranger
7 ай бұрын
Bang on, it's just a case of false advertising. It kinda works for some but it's not what they say it is. I opened mine before installing it and then just didn't bother.
@b3hulk
7 ай бұрын
I have had the original one on my bike for over 5 years and I loved it. It use to be if you flip the unit over it would either flash or provide constant power. I bought a new bike and put the newer model on and it is absolute a downgrade from the original. Same issue as you are having, and not worth it.
@thedroningoflife
8 ай бұрын
In uk was about to purchase for my first 125cc scooter...will avoid doesn't look a good product
@RobertSmith-bh5cv
8 ай бұрын
I'm glad there's guys like you Safety Dave because I was thinking about getting one of these. Seems like a great idea but if it's just flashing randomly it's not going to do much good.
@maxw576
8 ай бұрын
Interesting. I bought 3 many years ago. My son and I have used two of them successfully since. My son engine brakes a lot and the ST2 works perfectly and is IMO an important safety device for him. Getting the angle right was critical. We do have older units that look different, so maybe a change? I'll try to open the unused 3rd unit as I'm prepping to install it on a new bike.
@safety_dave
8 ай бұрын
I'm glad it's working for you. Some folks had reported success, but most have not. I image that under heavy engine braking it may work as intended. Unfortunately in my case there was just too much flicker under normal riding.
@dfhepner
8 ай бұрын
I added a Vololights module to my motorcycle about 15 years ago and it works great. It does use an accelerometer to sense the bike slowing down. It does require calibration to work correctly. When I checked I think they are out of business now. Thanks for the update on this company. They just stated advertising on FB
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