Also, the maculine te or fe would say that they are fine fighting back. Th fem extroverted deciders (they can) but wont really want to do that, theyll just be to bite back for attacking the masculine introverted decider. I like the stacking analogy. Especially stacking bad on bad on bad. I have savior Fi masculine, and I can definitely do that. Maybe that's why the Fi's have a stereotype on being depressive, which is the case for me.
@6Churches
Ай бұрын
PLEASE give us a 3-years later update!!!!!!
@flux1940
Ай бұрын
Thanks mbti northernlion
@woodykusaki9970
2 ай бұрын
It's true for me, it's true for you, everyone gets a true.
@pavithraselvaraj4
7 ай бұрын
Really clear and herlpful!
@o_enamuel
Жыл бұрын
1:52 I would like that (Beebe works)
@jabaric.8281
Жыл бұрын
Everything she says, points to her being an Entp, not intp. Sensory freakout, ne Dom, Fe not last etc.
@o_enamuel
Жыл бұрын
I'm just laughing because your unnatural sense of humor looks like me in public. Also, I think most XKCD fans are Ne Consumers
@draven8727
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. You have a very interesting perspective on things.
@YourNickIsTaken
Жыл бұрын
These videos helped me.
@scilines
2 жыл бұрын
My vote is INFJ for Renee.
@pugninja7037
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a entp tho told I'm enfp.. I hate fe.. I said to a into friend, When at collage I had this argument with a woman about our previous tutor, tho I liked her teaching ways , she was shit at organisation..that because of her I nearly failed, if it wasn't for another student recognise I'd fail.. I had to change this part , it took me 12 hours.. I passed all well.. but I lost it with this girl because she just was singing this tutor's praises, I was so pissed off , that it all came out.. Everyone was like so shocked at my behaviour, but I did kinda feel, no I'm sticking up for my end..I can't remember how I felt over the tribe, I think it was I don't care and stubborn in my beliefs, I really liked the tutors on teaching activities just not her organisational skills which was weak..when I argue , I go thats wrong or right. On my opinion. Or a kid getting beaten up against 9 others ,, I'm like that's just wrong.. save him get the police involved.
@kevinlulu6683
3 ай бұрын
Can you say more about how shitty her organisational skills were ?
@dubaicsgopros5738
2 жыл бұрын
let me guess maybe she is enfp/jumper , entp player ??? let me know
@6Churches
2 жыл бұрын
You're in a completely strange situation in which 'if you are the same 512' then this forces you to make distinctions against each other all the time. As in, compared to being just one of your type - you are constantly differentiating: splitting the priorities, perceiving the differences between - especially as a 512 is not a testament of skill, you can actually be very differently skilled across your type. One final think to really be aware of is that OPS is is about 1024 types. There is a whole 512 for males and whole 512 for females - and this addition sexed coin may include many of the differences you experience between you two. Lead Di's will also tend to live lives of difference and divergence simple because that's what Di does - accumulates the self as distinct.
@AdoptionLawSourceTrinity
2 жыл бұрын
ENFJ? It seems you have inferior Ti based on his you regard true-false, and you have strong Fe based on your ability to "handle" people in a way they don't know they're being handled. And based on conversations between you and Steve, you narrow down while he expands, making you Ni. You indulge in sensory things sometimes, but they're not your strength.
@AdoptionLawSourceTrinity
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I meant to say "based on how you regard...."
@foodforthought6130
3 жыл бұрын
This is soo cool!
@jankom.7783
3 жыл бұрын
From Te perspective, her reputation was ruined, because she lost control over her emotions in difficult situation. Which means, that she cannot be relied on if other difficult situation would happen in the future. Which is how Te sees Ti. As weak people, who cannot be trusted.
@Ohmi777
3 жыл бұрын
I think you are an Ixxj. isfj or infj maybe
@9coins353
3 жыл бұрын
How totally un-expected to receive the same types!!😳😳 Regardless of the "true type" I really enjoyed the conversation. For me it's taken >8 mths to process my OP type ... I think the biggest problem with typology in general is that we seem to tie our identity to the type which is in-correct. WHO we are and HOW we function are different things. The wiring is like a car - model and the driver is the person/identity. Colors are different. Plus the male/female Coin is the 10th and most crucial one. Also Steve , ThX for the shoutout☺ Hope to hear more from you!
@austinbodiford6360
3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this explanation so much!
@suziepantheon6470
3 жыл бұрын
Dull
@antondeannova7016
3 жыл бұрын
Stive...??? Can you helb me im confs abaut intp and istp...
@RoqbinReality
3 жыл бұрын
Lol opened with the bachelorette 🤣 It's so awkward to watch without others... It's just so corny! They have the same storylines every season too.🤦 The only way we can stay sane is to groan collectively. 😩
@nehasehgal2537
3 жыл бұрын
Ooo type twins!! You guys are so far apart in personality though.(still using the same functions!!) Variety is beautiful 😀❤️
@danielwinslow7184
3 жыл бұрын
A search for an extra large pizza with thick crust starts out with breadth but ends up with depth?🤔
@IndieAuthorX
3 жыл бұрын
One thing that threw me off of knowing I was an observer was how I felt like there was constant decider drama in my life. I later realized that what was actually going on was I was created Ne chaos and being spicy and then realizing I had to smooth things over... or not being assertive enough and then creating boundaries. This was double deciding though. The observer tidal waves were invisible to me, so while they were a big deal, I was (and am) guilty of just repressing them instead of dealing with them. So, just talking about things possibly killing her might be an example of double observing in Renee? #mfneficpbs
@RoqbinReality
3 жыл бұрын
Are you guys aware of Melanie? She just had an interview on Binyamin's channel but is your exact type twin as well including the 'birth sex' coin (for Renee obviously). She thought she was an infp before being typed by OPS. Might be someone you guys could collab with Would love to see it! Link to her channel. 🥳 kzitem.info/rock/rQ80KhdwTWbI4sGPgO-e_A
@mauraliller6
3 жыл бұрын
They do *look* similar and it's not just the glasses.
@jamiescribbles837
3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised anyone would have typed Renee as SF or NF - I am definitely seeing a lot of NT from her! I will say that it's much easier to type someone when I see a "freakout" - and she definitely didn't do that on the video here. But savior NT something or other is clearly a very comfortable state for her. Nice video! Thanks for sharing! Still waiting to see if I have to completely re-examine myself for my "Shave", glad know I won't be alone if so!
@dustinhawkins7634
3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t expect to see the result that early. I was seeing a lot of Ti and Si, I was not seeing Ni or Ne, and so I thought Renee was being Fe, letting Steve do like lead. But Renee wanted to discuss the Si information, she laid out the pattern of what happened so that was When I saw Si from Renee. Ti was that she considered the consistency of the results, was creating some comparison and contrast. So that was me building my theory on Renee s type Ti Si then the result popped up. I got spoiled too early ughhh.
@annaanna1981
3 жыл бұрын
Yes this is exactly how everybody feels : upside down typing
@box-of-chocolates
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this interesting video. It’s always easy to say that after the fact, but I’m not that surprised about INTP in general. When I saw you together in another video, you reminded me of two of my INTP friends when they’re sitting together on my sofa. They seem so relaxed with each other in a specific way. And I remember thinking about you, ahh, that’s probably just because they’re married. What I’m confused about is the animals, though. When you’re both in a video, the level of extraversion seems very different to me. Steve, you have this clear PB vibe with this strong urge to express your thinking all the time, whereas Renee, you seem to be much more at ease with just processing stuff for yourself, so I would’ve sworn CSxx, which would also explain, why the F-Si is so clearly visible for many people. But hey, just my 10 cents. Congrats on the way you’re processing this!
@box-of-chocolates
3 жыл бұрын
Ok, you asked for a hat: I see the same Quadra as Steve. But I don’t see Fe savior. You can do the Fe, because you’re relaxed about it, but it can be overwhelming if it’s too much, and you don’t feel obligated to do it all the time, like a De would. It might be hard to draw back, but you can, you don’t seem to feel an overwhelming guilt about that. I see that a lot with IxxPs when they’re balanced and comfortable in their skin, they are great people people. That’s why so many IxxPs end up leading companies, compared to us nervous ExxJs who are constantly afraid to do something wrong. Concerning the chaos freak-out: I have a CS TiNe friend who is so INTP, it’s written on his forehead, but when he has to travel: same freak-out as yours. So, ok, my hat suggestion is... FM TiNe CSPB. Whadayathink?
@reneerabenold5465
3 жыл бұрын
The fact that I come across as less extroverted than Steve in this video makes me laugh! I am definitely percieved as more extroverted if you would ask our close friends. It's more that I'm biting my tongue so I don't interrupt him making his video on his KZitem channel! 😂
@reneerabenold5465
3 жыл бұрын
I would say I feel obligated to De all the time. I have to completely leave all people to stop the make everyone happy feeling. That aside. Is your Ti/Ne friend with the freakouts about packing officially typed?
@XAEX12
3 жыл бұрын
Here is what i think of your result this just a thought may he be helpful 1- sometimes polite people do not show their mascline decider as aggressive and pushy even though it's masculine but the person poliness could cover it. So she's just a nice INTP person 2- sometimes m Fi seems like m Ti so INFP maybe 3- i get IxxJ vibe
@reneerabenold5465
3 жыл бұрын
These thoughts have been a lot of my thoughts! Thanks for saying thoughts!
@popupexistence9253
3 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhhhhhhh
@RoqbinReality
3 жыл бұрын
Wow. A couple of NTs stirring up some drama for us SFs. Thanks guys! I don't know Renee well enough to really make any kind of guess here. I kind of thought you were hinting at Fi at some points throughout but that isn't where we ended up. She kind of reminds me a bit of Vivian who I interviewed on my channel who ended up being FF NiTe so this doesn't shock me as a reference point for another female NT. As for you guys feeling different... That is bound to happen. You really want to look more at the ways in which you are processing information. You are likely choosing to respond differently in part due to conditioning throughout your lives. I would also look at the enneagram if you havent already as another possible lens to compare. Would love to see you guys discuss that together at some point. That's another hat for Renee to try on. 🤠
@thedazeyintp
3 жыл бұрын
So intriguing!! If tru; WOO another type twin! I had to let my type sink in for a while myself; but then recognized Ti/Fe tidal waves and my super avoidance of being Fe-moved. I always thought that was a weird behavior I learned from my experiences and would “fix” eventually; but it was hard to perceive clearly for a while. Maybe the sleep last is not helpful as far as deciding if the hat even fits!
@RoseAllDay789
3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys! I think I typed Renee FF FeNe PCBS. I never considered IxxP for her, however, I am often wrong. I was biased after knowing Steve's type. One thing to consider is that there is another coin and that is the male/female one. I talk to several people of similar types and regardless of functions, the women all seem to have more 'Fe' leaning. Meaning, they are paying attention to the pulse of the group and generally more concerned with social dynamics. Also - type twins are not exactly twins after all. They have their own nurtural experience that plays a part into how their function get expressed or who they want to be in the tribe. If it is at all helpful, I'm around to chat - publicly or privately. But I wonder if pulling this apart is particularly difficult because its seems like Renee's type has always been viewed through the lens of Steve's? With the assumption that you two must be different? There's also this bias that it's odd to be married to someone similar or that they can't be attracted to each other but its not true. And there's a lot of potential benefits - for instance if you are dating your opposite then you may have someone who is just covering your demons for you instead of you working on them yourself. Either way, you're both great. Fe over :).
@caarpoe
3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Male/female makes such a big difference. Women are expected to De and Fe.
@reneerabenold5465
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I have been reflecting on the male/female differences and I think this reflects the other way too. That any intellectual/smart seeming woman can be automatically filtered into T because it seems rare. Does that make sense? All I can say is if you did a poll of our close friends and asked if had the same struggles. There would be a resounding "no."
@caarpoe
3 жыл бұрын
@@reneerabenold5465 Culture and norms affect us. It’s a coin that OP isn’t measuring. Perhaps that’s me just saying that as savior SF, perhaps not … For women, we are expected to be De + F. For men, it seems they’re expected to be Di + T. If you are both the same type, then you will have had external pressure to do your last function your whole life.
@RoseAllDay789
3 жыл бұрын
@@reneerabenold5465 yea that makes a lot of sense. Intelligence isn’t correlated to type or sex but everyone thinks it does.
@bloodfangbeloved5714
3 жыл бұрын
Well, my final guess last video was, FM Ni/Te BS/P(C). It seems I got the F Sensory, I got the "nt" right just wrong version and order, I got the blast then sleep right, just last two. So, I wasnt completely wrong. My assumption, so feel free to ignore, is that what dave and shan have mentioned about people filling roles for others may be in play, as to why yall are "the same type" but different. Perhaps I saw some Ni/Te because Steve is so all in on that Ti/Ne, that Renee has to play the role of narrowing down the Ne and Te relate it to the tribe? And as we talked about Masculine vs Feminine, the reason Renee comes off a little less extroverted next to Steve even though same type,(apart from different lived experiences, aka nurture), may be an example of Testosterone as a primary development chemical vs Estrogen as a primary development chemical. Same brain, different fuel. So Renee may end up trying to fill in the gap? These are just random outloud hypotheses, please feel free to destroy them if you disagree. I'm so happy that yall are able to deal with this. I dont know how I would react if I found out me and my wife(after 12 years of marriage) had the exact same functions. We seem so different, she said a few days ago, "whatever type you are, I have to be the opposite functions as we are so different surely we cant both have Ti." Ok, play achieved, hopefully this was somehow helpful or relatable. I like you guys, I wish you the best!!!!
@reneerabenold5465
3 жыл бұрын
I think a theme in some of these comments is the male and female difference and the possibility that I'm filling roles. But what's very funny to me is that in our friend group and, I would say, even when random strangers I'm the more extroverted one. This is Steve's channel so I let him take the lead, but I'm usually more loud mouthed and making a lot of decisions for the two of us. Even before I met Steve I don't remember ever playing the NT role. I can't think of times where people came to me for factual information. In my perspective at least, people come to me for emotional support and comfort and general life coaching. This can have an element of Ti, but I don't see myself playing this role with Steve or with anyone else in my life. Thanks for your outloud thoughts.
@AdoptionLawSourceTrinity
2 жыл бұрын
This supports ENFJ.... :)
@shelbybuckalew621
3 жыл бұрын
I’m a little stumped too! I thought I was seeing s>n. But true, you didn’t seem to have major freak outs-in this particular setting. I hope you are able to get more insights!
@MrAnymotion
3 жыл бұрын
FM Si/Ti, Si/Fe. Demon M-Ne wanting new and maybe used to Steve Ne. M-Fe pushing values to others, confronting people and using Si to organizing them.. High Blast, Low consume. Wanting to bitching in video earlier? Definetly M-Fe haha. But probably the savior F-Ti change as Steve M-Ti getting in place and you would prefer Ti over Fe.. Don't know that are my thoughts based on this video
@9coins353
3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful honest episode❣ I don't see any hat at this point. The typing process is so confusing for various reasons.. mainly bc our minds seem to see all the human needs in ourselves, all at once! Another thing is our roles that we carry (like hats). Maybe the question isn't which hat we are wearing - but rather which hat we were born in. Maybe the million-dollar question here is - Are you De or Di? Anyway , Regardless of hats, I really enjoyed the video !
@natripletee
3 жыл бұрын
I definitely see the same quadra. I originally typed her as MM SiFe BSPC. After watching your interaction, I would still maintain Fe > Ti, but I could definitely see her channel changing Ne (you guys were both skibbing this entire video) and FF modality. Possibly FF NeFe PCBS.
@reneerabenold5465
3 жыл бұрын
I've been watching Ne/Fe celebrities wondering the same thing. Not a lot of examples of women though.
@9coins353
3 жыл бұрын
Also.. I ve had a very similar struggle as Renee in figuring out whether I m on the Ne-Si Or the Ni-Se axis, after receiving my Op Type, also still in process.. (However very convinced on the Fe-Ti axis in myself, same as her)
@9coins353
3 жыл бұрын
Great episode! It's much more to fun to watch with your wife on it, plz do more eps with her! 😊
@RoseAllDay789
3 жыл бұрын
Congrats and thanks for answering my question.
@9coins353
3 жыл бұрын
Good GOOD GOOD
@sofia8574
3 жыл бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@sofia8574
3 жыл бұрын
True, good/bad ~~ cool/uncool etc
@sofia8574
3 жыл бұрын
I knew about this model (studied it), but your views were very interesting and unique. Congrats. More content please
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