This was great, thank you very much! Keep making good stuff.
@vibeswithkae1636
11 күн бұрын
Her is one of my favorite movies 😭🙏🏾
@sadiyashiraj
11 күн бұрын
Lmaooo sorry for raining on your parade. I still thought it was very ~fascinatingly~ boring hahaha
@gerdaleta
18 күн бұрын
😮 basically if you see a fat nerd in the future😮 you know he's lazy😮 he's so lazy he can't even be bothered to f*** his robot that's crazy😮 you know how much calories sex Burns😮 even if she's just riding or a s***😮 2 years in obesity probably won't exist😮 on top of all the crazy AI medicine and s*** like that😮
@gerdaleta
18 күн бұрын
😮 replace😮 no put them back in their natural place😮 with eight women behind us😮 as a harem😮 everybody's complaining about this but I'm telling you everyone will love this in the future😮 women have a better pool of men to pick from because the fat s*** nerd😮 if all he's doing is f****** a robot😮 2 years in he looks like the f****** rock😮 and if women are getting nailed by robots😮 what the hell do you think they look like😮 add that on top with AI medication medicine beauty products😮 the elimination of all STDs and unwanted pregnancies😮 people in the future are f****** hot and they f*** dude😮 it's literally ancient rome orgy's 😮 but robots are there too😮 bringing the wine and the fine cheeses😮
@Dune-uv8rb
19 күн бұрын
Great video, very interesting. I do think that there is nuanced to be gained in your depiction of male "possesivness" and women "emotional need" as inherent traits. A systemic approach on patriarchy and the way it benefits men could help you see it more as a hierarchical adaptation pattern than a natural/biological truth and then help to sharpen your (already very good) analysis. Maybe "The will to change" by Bell Hooks could be an interesting read on the matter. Anyway, thank you very much for a great video.
@sadiyashiraj
18 күн бұрын
That’s a good point, there’s valid and fruitful way to interpret male possessiveness as a vestige of patriarchal traditions. And also the “women are more emotional” claim as also being another patriarchal tool in the othering of women. And I do love me some Bell Hooks don’t get me wrong, but I guess my intention was to shift the focus away from gender itself and onto more universal/agendered societal issues like loneliness and alienation under capitalism. In doing so I can see how it brushes over how capitalism inherent privileges men over women as a consequence of capitalist-patriarchy. I do see myself doing a future video using Bell Hooks as inspiration though I have been really getting into her work recently. And thank you for watching and engaging! Always love reading thoughtful and insightful comments ❤
@Dune-uv8rb
19 күн бұрын
Great video !!
@Dune-uv8rb
19 күн бұрын
Very interesting video and a call for action. Thank you !
@AnnabelleMarsden-th9rk
20 күн бұрын
This is genuinely one of the best video essays I've seen in ages. So well articulated <3
@jonathankabasele985
20 күн бұрын
Are you a woman ?
@Littlebeth5657
20 күн бұрын
Glad this came up for me. Really enjoyed the video. Seems like it is reaching some of the right people who need to hear this even though they might not know it 😅
@Cedartreetechnologies
20 күн бұрын
Intelligent but deeply conflicted narrator assumes women are Man's true equal. Not true. Amazonia is fictional. If we don't end up in a post-nuclear male-centric wasteland, robot girlfriends will ensure feminized society ends in a cold whimper.
@bushy9780
20 күн бұрын
I'm a little confused with your last sentence. Are you saying robowaifu is just going to lead to slow and steady decline into extinction of humanity? Or are you saying robowaifu will slowly get us back on track to the natural patriarchy? I agree though, a mad-max dystopia is our best option going forward and it's sad because many will not make it.
@ModernConversations
20 күн бұрын
"Samantha's whole purpose for existing is to meet the emotional needs of the person who purchased her." Nothing new there! 1) Biblical origin story of women, + 2) custom of arranged marriage. Not an unprecedented setup!
@sadiyashiraj
20 күн бұрын
True but it's different when you consider that this "purpose" isn't just a societal expectation/injustice imposed on her it informs her very material design. Women have always endured misogyny but from our perspective it never compromised their humanity, for Samantha the unfreedom is built into her DNA (programming). But then I guess that could lead us into a whole nature/nurture/essentialism debate lol so maybe you have a point.
@ModernConversations
20 күн бұрын
@@sadiyashiraj It can get into a technical thing when you're making any parallel, very true, like an LSAT question. I'm not a hundred percent sure I've made a solid parallel. But if men genuinely believed the scripture that was commonplace historically, that women are just helpmates made out of their rib cartilage, then they were technically tucking into what they understood to be subhuman helpmates too. I've always found that idea to be creepy, and thought it begs to be understood why this myth goes to such imaginative trouble to emphasize that women are designed out of and for the sake of men's companionship; but its a myth that contextualizes a way of viewing women that these AI tales appear to be evoking also.
@ModernConversations
20 күн бұрын
@@sadiyashiraj I'm certainly very interested in this conversation to be had about essentialism. I don't believe there is a truth, I think truths are these containers of ideas that never actually hold the things we perceive them to, we trade them about but we don't actually see that inside them there is no essential reality. What people experience that causes them to take away the conclusion that there is an essential nature of woman or of man is based on misunderstandings of causality, and the rejection of previously held concepts. Essentialists don't think men and women are essential because they actually are, they think that because they previously thought they weren't, but encountered a situation that appeared to prove otherwise. A pessimist is a former optimist, and so on. Buffeted by the conflicting desires of life, people witness men and women eventually arriving at consistent choices, and so they assume this proves men and women have an essential nature. This is not a sound conclusion, but it's an understandable one. Life is a complex test of our deepest priorities, pain teaches us to make compromises with our environment. Each of us wants the same things yet express it differently. A woman choosing to be the prize of a rich man's financial heroism is just a coincidence of circumstances - like a musician who never gets famous deciding to go to law school and become a tenant's rights lawyer. These were not compelled choices, they were not inevitable, or even desirable. They were available, and preferable to nothing. Ugh, I wish I could make video essays. : )
@sadiyashiraj
18 күн бұрын
@ModernConversations not going to lie everything you said sounds to me strikingly similar to Wittgenstein's "Philosophical Investigations", which makes me think you should DEFINITELY start making video essays!
@snowdog993
21 күн бұрын
Maybe there is more to a lifelong relationship than what you dream of. You learn from your mistakes and wish you could fix them all. Telling your significant other how you feel about them is one part. How they feel about you is the other. You stick together, you don't give up. Sounds like a simple story. Once upon a time they lived happily ever after. The End. There's a bit more to it, isn't there?
@nobleknight3079
21 күн бұрын
for men being lonely isn't so much of a feeling, its more along the lines of a state of being. its knowing that when you we walk down the street no one really notices your existence as a consciousness.at best your are seen as a threat. most days your just another piece of the environment we live in, like a tree that you walk past. you don't really care about the story of the tree or the thoughts it might have because its just a tree.in that sense men are just the thing that fixes the car, the thing the comes and picks up the trash, the thing that makes the power plant work. men are things and our loneliness stims form us dreaming of being something more.in all of the fore mentioned movies all the male characters were only brought in to be used as things. "Ex Machina", he is nothing but a testing tool like a pool chlorine kit. in "Blade Runner", he was a tool made buy a company to fix the problem of defectives tools. in "Her" he was the tool that was already found to be of no use to the ex wife. Our society demands that men be tools so that it continues to work for the present day to day but on the other hand for the far reaching future women demand men to be both human and tool to be able to make and raise more people but all men yearn for is to be seen as another human. that's why so many men can fall in love with AI because they feel that deep down this is what the AI longs for as well. this is why men find it so hard to understand women's loneliness. society as a whole already views them as human. someone who deserves the right to be and do anything your heart desires. yes we are all lonely but for women, the loneliness is due to being lost in the fog of endless options and you cant see others around you because of that fog. for men its the loneliness of being in a steel box unable to see anyone around you. if i had the choice i would take the fog over the box any day.
@sadiyashiraj
21 күн бұрын
There’s a lot in this that I could respond to but I really don’t think it would do any good so I’ll just summarise with this: a lot of what you are saying is gripes that you should be having with capitalism and not how society treats men. In capitalism, people are turned into cogs in the machine and are valued only insofar as they can add value to the economy. Additionally capitalism and globalisation separates men (and everyone mind you) from communities, and men (and everyone) are valued as people in healthy communities. Please watch my video on Capitalist Realism for more details into how this works but also I’d really encourage you to broaden your perspective on how you view female loneliness. As a trans women I have experience being lonely as a man and a woman and although I agree theirs differences in the styles in which men and women feel loneliness the feeling is the same. If you seek out stories by women I have no doubt you will find that loneliness works more or less the same for everyone. Also btw your interpretation of Her I strongly disagree with and find very misogynistic, you’re saying Catherine has no feeling of love for Theodore and just sees him as a tool for her own ambition? That’s an extremely cynical borderline contemptuous way of seeing her character and her role in their clearly loving but complicated relationship.
@wexpmedia5889
19 күн бұрын
@@sadiyashirajCapitalism isn’t going anywhere. So, we’ll need better solutions than blaming capitalism.
@nagatiro4081
16 күн бұрын
Shut up goofy
@Pssst.ByTheWay
21 күн бұрын
I don’t know why i get recommended this. Im a exo oribiter of the manosphere Is my teetering on the edge of the sphere montivation for the algorithm to push me over? Or it suspects some antagonistic comments and thus engagement? I smell ai exploitation! Tbw nice guy. Kinda my guilty pleasure jam. Well i used to be, i hope anyway. The only master of truth is time itself Interesting talk btw!
@sadiyashiraj
21 күн бұрын
Interesting you say that because my aim for this video was to teeter on the edge of manosphere topics lol. I want to talk about adjacent issues like loneliness and gender relations but I don't ever want to be considered a manosphere creator *shudders*. And thanks :)
@Pssst.ByTheWay
21 күн бұрын
@@sadiyashiraj bulls eye i guess 🤣
@raptor909
21 күн бұрын
@@sadiyashiraj youtube algorithm and nuanced takes don't go along well. You said male loneliness too many times, for sure this video is part of the manosphere /s. The positive thing is that now this video reaches people that need nuanced takes. The bad one is that now i will have to clear my feed from all the "woman bad" channels. Anyway, nice video.
@leenaadams6742
21 күн бұрын
@@raptor909i think it’s also worth mentioning that male loneliness is partly the result of patriarchy, the lack of close male friendships and emotional vulnerability due to the whole stoicism thing that makes it harder for men to connect to one another, so it’s a bit ironic that manosphere ppl complain about these very real issue and turn around and support the system that lets the issues proliferate, same for the capitalist system that ties masculinity to financial success, and uses women as prizes to be won, so men who are broke and lonely with the intersection of these two big systems will turn around and worship the embodiments of such systems, wealthy famous men who profit from their issues… it’s so paradoxical
@leenaadams6742
21 күн бұрын
i’m mostly talking about men within the manosphere with less critical thinking skills… think patrick bateman wannabes… a lonely stoic and rich man who releases all his issues through violence and sees women as objects… we complain about all these issues especially sui(ide rates for guys and then turn around and glorify the very thing destroying men from the inside, the emotional repression
@Handlebrake2
21 күн бұрын
Lmfao, what's with ur name? English, plz? Are you a man?
@off-the-label
21 күн бұрын
Good essay
@LoudmouthReviews
22 күн бұрын
Women can’t be lonely
@alexismacias8436
21 күн бұрын
Is that really all you got out of this video?
@LoudmouthReviews
21 күн бұрын
@@alexismacias8436 There is a reason why AI girlfriends are being developed and AI boyfriends not so much. Loneliness is exclusively a male only phenomenon. The data shows literally any woman can get a man anytime they want but the same isn't true for men
@axl1002
21 күн бұрын
@@LoudmouthReviews Only narc1ss1sts are lonely when they can't get attention. If you stop hating yourself you will not feel lonely, believe me. I moved to a village in the mountains some years ago and I don't talk to anyone of the locals. 20 years ago I was married, but my ex didn't love me, it was the most loneliest part of my life.
@leenaadams6742
21 күн бұрын
@@LoudmouthReviewsthe reason is not that women are all getting boyfriends… also if they had boyfriends wouldn’t that equal out the numbers… basic math. the reason is that women tend to have deeper female friendships that men do, this is not male oppression, you guys just connect as deeply because you don’t allow yourself to
@LoudmouthReviews
21 күн бұрын
@@leenaadams6742 "also if they had boyfriends wouldn’t that equal out the numbers… basic math." Not if a bunch of women are all dating the same man
@parker9012
22 күн бұрын
Interesting video, the last point about centering female perspectives I'm not as sure about. Honestly to me this feels like the first time in my lifetime that the perspectives of men who are not attractive to women have been given societal attention. To me it feels like society just stopped laughing at us, to consider that we exist and are real people, not one dementional caricatures. I can't exactly explain why, but the reaction to this group of men finally being seriously discussed, being to center women, doesn't feel right.
@sadiyashiraj
22 күн бұрын
I think I get what you're saying. Like Hollywood has moved past the Tom Cruises and Brad Pitts and the 'leading man' trope to focus on more introverted/socially marginal male characters. But if we see that shift as a societal correction in the representation of men in the media, making up for the themes that the old tropes missed, then we have to apply that same view to the current mainstream depiction of leading characters. As much as those macho action hero type stories would've missed about for example the more sensitive aspects of men that the shift corrects for, centring the nerdy/loner type will still come with its own unique baggage. My argument is that the next move in progressive media representation should be toward the female perspective, because what both the action hero/loner leading characters have in common is the way they other women or the feminine. I believe everyone has much to gain from entertaining such perspectives, especially marginalised men for whom these perspectives were kept out of reach by either limited access or social stigma.
@leenaadams6742
21 күн бұрын
idk how old you are but throughout most of my life, your so called “underrepresented” awkward lonely leading and occasionally tortured white guy has been all i’ve seen in movies in television, countless examples include 500 days of summer, oppenheimer, whiplash, taxi driver, the joker too maybe more violent but the general themes of some guy being isolated from society usually because of capitalism… i think the idea that women getting represented in the same way is gonna take away from it… it a pretty ridiculous fear, women’s stories have always come second or they are object in these movies
@parker9012
21 күн бұрын
@@leenaadams6742 idk how Oppenheimer fits that at all, when half of the movie was about his love affairs. Joker definitely was, can't speak to the others.
@sadiyashiraj
21 күн бұрын
@@leenaadams6742I’m 21 and honestly I totally agree with you even I grew up with movies like Superbad and shows like Inbetweeners being mainstream. It’s frustrating to know that some people have a zero-sum-game view of representation in the media and think more of one groups stories means less of another’s.
@user-mm9ve4le6m
Күн бұрын
@@leenaadams6742 He is most likely not talking about movies. Instead, he is probably alluding to the fact that these kind of men are ridiculed all of the time in the public discourse. Movies don't change that. They are interesting to analyze and mean a lot to some individuals, but ultimately they are not important in the grander scheme. There was never a real empathetic talk about the lives of these kind of men. As a society we just shame them, tell them to shut up, and we deprioritize their emotional well being. Women on average grow up having a more robust and bigger social network and therefore more social and emotional support. Many men literally have no one - and the reason is that their stories are not properly told in public discourse. Some might virtue signal that men are allowed to talk about their emotions. But this doesn't mean anything. When it gets real, men still pay the price of being viewed as unmanly / a loser. And no one really addresses this (without making it about other groups). Sure, some people might relate to K in Blade Runner. But it's not making any interesting argument in favor of taking these kind of men more serious. Just like you said: it's all just a metaphor for capitalism. Btw. Just having movies with lonely/unsuccessful men in it, doesn't mean that this movie speaks for them or to them. It also doesn't mean that it actually addresses a serious issue that might affect this demographic group. For example: I don't see how the movie 500 days of summer is real representation in this regard. They could also just reverse the gender of the protagonists and it honestly wouldn't change anything. But I agree that Drive is a good example. Many men can relate to this movie. There are definitely many movies that achieve this kind of empathy. But they don't translate to a change of social norms in real life.
@davidmcginleymcginley7559
22 күн бұрын
Great video I really enjoyed it!
@YazminM2222
23 күн бұрын
'Does it makes me a bad feminist to want a strong... man' i thought you were going somewhere else there😅
@sael91
23 күн бұрын
Are there any good stories that explore a relationship between an AI and a human where the human is a woman and the AI is male? Or stories where the relationship is a more explicitly queer one? The majority of these stories seeming to feature the gender dynamic of masculine human + feminine robot in the first place feels telling. The man's humanity is almost never even in question. His morality may be, his intelligence may be, but his fundamental personhood is always taken as a given. The woman however, in being relegated to the role of the robot, consistently has to clear that fundamental hurdle first before anything else about her personhood can even begin to be addressed. Bladerunner 2049 feels like it comes close to this with its male lead being a replicant, but both the film itself and the film it's following up bent over backwards to drive home to the audience that replicants are essentially human in every way that matters to a story. While this may lead us to be more considerate of Joi's own potential personhood, as we've been primed to consider the personhood of other artificial life, as you pointed out here the story isn't primarily concerned with Joi. She is, fundamentally, a prop in K's own development, and even in the dynamic of two kinds of artificial people, she is the more artificial person in the pair, lacking many basic elements of human agency that K is able to enjoy.
@sadiyashiraj
23 күн бұрын
The closest thing to a human woman/ai man relationship that I can think of is the relationship between Wanda Maximoff and Vision (formerly Jarvis the A.I.) But there is no question as to Vision’s humanity once he gets the mind stone and therefore sentience. But even when I think of non-sexual A.I. human relationships like between Jarvis and Tony Stark and all the female ai voice assistants in the MCU Jarvis (the male voice) is the only one that is treated like a proper character and his own screen presence/story arc. The female voices always simply perform their roles as assistants and become the background to the stories.
@sael91
23 күн бұрын
@@sadiyashiraj It becomes striking too when we look at women in Pinnochio positions where they're allowed to explore and question the nature of their humanity, but not in regards to their relative position to a demonstrably human man. Major Kusanagi from Ghost in the Shell and Elster from Signalis come to mind. The former coming from her existential questioning from the opposite position of whether what was once human can transform into what is initially seen strictly as machine, but in doing so calling into question the boundaries we put around what is human in the first place, and the latter exploring humanity and personhood through the lens of a queer relationship, which shifts the entire vibe of the story. Thank you for the videos btw! Your work is very thought provoking!
@sadiyashiraj
23 күн бұрын
@@sael91 those themes are making me think of Donna J. Harraway’s ‘Cyborg Manifesto’, a book I considered discussing in this video but decided not to as it would extend the scope of the video to something I am very not capable of doing justice lol. But I love that you’re already thinking about that! The boundaries between human/machine, man/woman, straight/queer are things I’m very interested in and might make a video about in the future. And thank you so much for watching and engaging! I love hearing how other people interpret the topics I bring up :)
@parker9012
22 күн бұрын
I think this ends up being a question about potential audiences. There are a group of lonely men who desire female attention and don't know how to become someone who will receive it. For them the idea of a imperfect facsimile of female attention is appealing. I'm not sure if there's as large a potential audience of women who are craving generic male attention, in the same way? For non straight versions I'm guessing it just comes down to there being fewer people who aren't straight. I'm kinda fascinated by the women question though, I get the feeling that most women are not craving generic male attention, in the same way men are.
@sirmullich4088
21 күн бұрын
Episode 1 of the second season of black mirror explores a woman's relationship with an AI version of her dead boyfriend. That's the only example I can think of.
@mrpieceofwork
27 күн бұрын
The capitalistic propaganda apparatus is EXTREMELY GOOD at lulling the masses back to sleep, whenever the masses "wake up" to what's going on. So, stop falling asleep!
@mrpieceofwork
27 күн бұрын
Agitate, Educate, Organize. A Better World Is Possible.
@mrpieceofwork
27 күн бұрын
TIL that there are FOUR "Hunger Games" books and FIVE movies. Have I been living under a rock? lol (kinda close, actually)
@sluggo1515
Ай бұрын
The thing is, we haven't had capitalism in 100 years.
@cellarvennis5655
Ай бұрын
Was quite interesting thanks
@Luiz-rt8eo
Ай бұрын
Who do we direct our protest to? - The Government? Yes✅ - The Rich? Yes✅ - The Midia? Yes✅ - The People? Yes✅ Not necessarily all of them at a time, but everyone can suffer when a collective force demands change, which, theoretically, would keep everyone in check. However, people are not as educated about capitalism as you think it is, in MY country, most people don't even know their rights, and when someone does call the police because of neighbour noise, no one cares because that happens all the time and it's already in culture that we should just put our head down when it happens to not "create any enemies". Theoretically, capitalism is perfect, in practice it fucking sucks because the people are stuck in plethora of forces beyound their knowledge, they don't know about their rights, they don't understand how to educate their children, they were taught to 'put their heads down' when a bad apple joins their community, and in the rare cases where people do speak up and the bad apple gets punished, it's usually executed horribly, people get sent to jail where they're not rehabilitated and treated as inhunmanly as possible, many who survive get reintroduced to crime. Changing to socialism or communism or to any other ism is not gonna change anything when the our society is rotten to the core, we need to wake up and start building as many communities around us as we can and hope for a better future.
@sadiyashiraj
Ай бұрын
I agree, but I'd want to stress that at the same time as demanding collective change and building communities, it is important is to start undoing and unlearning the comforts of capitalism and empire that we as individuals are reliant on. A lot of the problems you mentioned come from people outsourcing the responsibility for collective care onto institutions, (education, police, psychiatry etc) and that outsourcing is driven by our incentive to do so to get ahead in the capitalist rat race and secure as many material comforts for ourselves as possible. Which is why I'd consider myself an anarchist, not because I want a political revolution but because I believe that people (communities, not individuals) are more than capable of governing ourselves.
@Luiz-rt8eo
Ай бұрын
@@sadiyashiraj I agree with most of what you said except with the last part, no I don't think we can exist without a government, doing so would be a regression to tribal times, technology as we know it just wouldn't be able to exist as easily and science would just go poof. Just imagine thrillions of communities, each with their own idea of what science is or should be? Looks like an epistemological hell to me, eventually we would war and go back to the same place we are today, no thank you! I'd rather look to the future rather long for the past.
@elaela1147
2 ай бұрын
I have been feeling, for a long time, that everything is wrong, but without any clue on how to fix it. This is the best starting point that I have found, and I will definitely read the book. Thank you for putting the time into making this video, and also if you have some book recommendation for someone who, until recently, had almost no interest in world history, and is now trying to catch up, I would highly appreciate it. The vastness of the field is a bit discouraging.
@sadiyashiraj
2 ай бұрын
Wow thank you so much I'm glad you were able to find my video and it was able to help your awareness. I'll be honest it was difficult for me as well to know where to start unlearning the false narratives and false histories that I was taught as well. As for what I'd recommend reading next, definitely after you finish Mark Fisher's Capitalist Realism (i've linked a free pdf version in the description) I would recommend 'Technofeudalism: What Killed Capitalism' by Yanis Varoufakis. It's a book on economics and history but it's very easy to understand by a person who's not educated in either (like me), Yanis also has a bunch of videos and recent interviews on KZitem where he explains all his ideas in a very clear way (he's an excellent teacher) that I'd highly suggest you check out even before you consider reading the book. I've spent the last few says just watching videos of his analysis of politics lol he's amazing!
@user-sz6si2gz4e
2 ай бұрын
commenting for thr algorithm!
@alexplorer
2 ай бұрын
I would rather have added to the topic of the video, but instead I have to point out that you lost me for a bit with the dig at Dave Chapelle. Lots of people find Dave funny, and the Venn diagram breaking that down has an overlap with plenty of us who know trans people. However, I'm not sure you've actually watched any of Chapelle's stand-up, especially regarding trans folks. Many of the people who have been attacked as "transphobic" have a much more nuanced position than anyone could label as "pro" or "anti" on the subject, just as your position on reading bin Laden's piece in the Guardian wasn't exactly advocating in favor of terrorism... but could easily be seen that way if taken out of context. For all the criticism that Chapelle was "attacking" trans people, I didn't see any refutations that his material was false or even exaggerated. The jokes made valid points, and he did it in a funny way. If you didn't find the joke funny, maybe it's because humor is subjective, or maybe it's that you were asked to confront an uncomfortable fact. You'll have to watch his material and answer that for yourself. Further, Chapelle did far more to humanize trans people by talking about his friend Daphne Dorman, giving her position in knocking his jokes, and educating Chapelle himself on what it means to be trans. For the record, I think of you as a real woman not because of a blanket demand by trans activists but because you never once stopped talking to change the battery in your smoke detector.
@sadiyashiraj
2 ай бұрын
Aw I'm sorry I upset you by making a dig at your favourite comedian to the point that you could no longer engage with the topic of the video :( maybe now you have some point of reference for how trans people might feel about being told to engage with Dave Chappelle, if only to appreciate the nuanced comic genius of his takes on trans people? Also I have to tell you I HOWLED at the last part, you managed to affirm me in my gender with misogyny lmaooo. Kudos to you honestly, I'd take trans-inclusive misogyny over transphobic misogyny any day of the week XD
@theproffittcollection
2 ай бұрын
Still like the Curious George in the background. 😊 This video is good at deep thinking.
@mighty_zero
2 ай бұрын
You are kind of cute ngl Or maybe im gonna... 😈
@TheGrizz485
2 ай бұрын
Internet Comment Etiquette made me come here.
@SardonicSays
2 ай бұрын
On Something Awful, an infamous video was spun up almost immediately after 9/11: Tribute.wmv. the original has been long since taken down but it was 9/11 footage set to the Benny Hill theme. It may have been more of a prank than an earnest attempt at a joke, but still, notable. Something Awful in those days was definitely on the bleeding edge of edgelordism. Definitely has grown up since.
@lillymilliman8621
2 ай бұрын
great video!! :3
@Trisstunes
2 ай бұрын
great work!!
@kiprokode
2 ай бұрын
here is your comments for the algorithm : this is a really good video, but the very last sound you make just after the "ok thx bye" just killed me, we can hear the relief xD
@matsmith4710
2 ай бұрын
CTA engagement! Favorite part was about how the whole "punching up vs punching down" dynamic is horrendously oversimplified for when it comes to determining what "is and isn't" okay to make fun of. I had tacos for breakfast.
@worschtebrot
2 ай бұрын
I do agree with most of what you said but I think you're not emphasizing enough the influence of power imbalances on comedy. Take the Barbie example. As far as I understand it's an American source making light of an atrocity committed by Americans. One can understand why that would rub people in Japan the wrong way. Now I honestly don't know how Americans would react to the Japanese doing something similar to Pearl Harbor. But, in general, there is always going to be a residual imbalance between Japan and the US. And I feel like that's a theme in your talk here. Yes, maybe Sam's humor is uncomfortable, but it's his way of a) coping and b) most effectively discussing the disaster in Palestine with a wider audience. It's his way of maximizing his range and power in the face of a US political system and a general US public that is mostly indifferent to the Palestinians' suffering. Or maybe I'm not able to think this all the way to the end and your point is lost on me.
@sadiyashiraj
2 ай бұрын
I touch on power imbalance a little bit in the discussion of Sam Obeid and Hannah Gadsby when it comes to self-deprecating humour from marginalised people, and also in passing when I mentioned the “punching up punching down thing”, however you’re right in saying I could’ve gone more into it. A big part of satire is not only exposing power but also exercising power when it comes to what you make fun of and what people find funny. However I think my whole argument about the irony poising of our culture still stands regardless of the where the power lies, because in diluting political discourse and encouraging absurdity and unseriousness it makes it easier for whenever is in power to maintain the status quo. And you’re right in saying the best way to Sammy to get an audience for talking about Palestine is through comedy, but that’s exactly the problem I wanted to address, the fact that it is easier for most of us to engage in politics through satire and entertainment than actual discourse and activism.
@worschtebrot
2 ай бұрын
@@sadiyashiraj Thanks for your detailed answer! I really appreciate that. I guess at that point we're talking more about activism than comedy but I do think it's important to keep comedy in your toolbox to generate interest and support. Especially in today's media environment you somehow need to get people interested in your cause. Why not use comedy for that? At that point it becomes dangerous to frame said comedy as self-deprecation or coping because that, in turn, diminishes the cause. It's a pretty fine line to walk because discussing that line is important to help activists/comedians figure out their place/method but it could at the same time be used against them. Kudos for talking about it in a respectful manner!
@nicolau2
2 ай бұрын
Holy smokes, juat founf this on reddit and ended up watching the whole video while having breakfast. So good and insightfull and i reslly loved the conclusion at the end. You have a new milenial spanish sub. Cheers
@itmakessenseincontext889
2 ай бұрын
Excellent video! These are some amazing points, I haven't seen anyone talk about this before!
@karellechevrier3084
2 ай бұрын
first time watching you and wow- that was amazing. Also quoting Nanette made me super happy
@SecretSocietyofGoths
2 ай бұрын
im only half way through the video so if this is brought up later i apologize but a big reason is because of how fucking sick everyone was of hearing about it. and the ptsd of growing in a world were the biggest american sin was to do anything that could be seen as disrespectful towards it was more traumic then the attack itself. i dont think anyone under 30 REALLY understands how engulfing it was until about 2015. because then we had to deal with trump. all the sudden 9/11 didnt really seem like the worst thing we could think about
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