Why are we filing this down can some @ me n explain
@arisnersissian5374
Ай бұрын
@brycelocs2386 watch my other video on the hogue/kingpin
@Rocketman9mm
2 ай бұрын
i'd remove it before filing to avoid hitting the receiver.
@TruthSeeker9038
2 ай бұрын
I can’t wait to leave this state
@arisnersissian5374
2 ай бұрын
Better times are ahead of us....
@prabh456
3 ай бұрын
Mine won’t stop the mag release and I followed Hogue’s guide on drilling… seems like it doesnt go all the way down
@arisnersissian5374
3 ай бұрын
the pin has a long side and short, have you made sure you are screwing down the long side down?
@prabh456
3 ай бұрын
@@arisnersissian5374 yep long side is down with the spring
@scottgky
3 ай бұрын
Straight up, if I lived there I would not own one of those compliantpiles of junk, ill own what I want so says the 2nd.
@therainydayshooter2973
3 ай бұрын
Interesting, I didn’t have to shave the pin down at all. It works perfectly with the kingpin. I installed on 3 different Lowers. It even works on the ambi bolt release lowers. Just remember to remove the ambi button and spring before drilling otherwise you will damage the ambi spring that actuates the button. Tip: Follow the instructions. If you follow it 100% you can have it done simple. The large drill bit comes with a ring stop to keep you from over drilling. Secure the lower in the vice and clamp the jig to the lower with hand vice plastic ones. The drilling part is the easiest . I honestly don’t see how you can mess it up. Take your time and get all metal shavings out and debur the hole by running the drill bit in and out multiple times. Don’t forget to lube the drill bits and 5 turns is all you really need with the 8-32 tap . The instructions says 4 turns but 5 gets the set screw in a little deeper so you don’t have to shave the pin. Should just work with the king pin . I’m able to lock the bolt back and push king pin and release mag. No shaving necessary. Also before putting the jig on the lower be sure to have your take down pin pushed in. If you are unsure about your lower you can use the tap guide and shine a flashlight down the hole with the jig installed and you will see a light circle. If you can see 90% of the circle being shined on the lower receiver then you are good to go and start drilling. Drill fast okay. Once you finish the install you never have to remove it. If you want to go back to being free then loosen the mag release button 2 to 3 turns and you’re back to hell yea mode! That’s all.
@xi-deadshot-ix5838
3 ай бұрын
The set screw may make the pin recessed more but it will stick out that much further in the mag release slot thus further impeding the path of the mag release button. The tolerances between your BCG and buffer tube is what will determine if you need to shave the pin or not. Unless they have thousands of rounds through them and are well worn in they’re generally going to be really tight unless it’s a really low budget build.
@dankshots760
4 ай бұрын
Did you have any trouble with drilling your Franklin armory lower? I drilled mine using the jig and it drilled through the side wall of the lower. I jb weld it and tried adjusting the angle to move over to the right some and it won’t budge. I even test fitted it on my other lowers and it still looks like the jig is out of place and will drill through the side wall. Any suggestion or help would be appreciated.
@arisnersissian5374
4 ай бұрын
If the jig is fitting in properly this shouldn't happen. You should be able to push it in and hear a click. I would maybe contact Hogue and replace your jig if you think it may be off alignment. Also are you using the bit provided? with the stopper? I had tried to drill without it once and ended up drilling through the bottom, I was able to fix it by using the one of the screws provided and loctite to fill the hole on the bottom.
@dankshots760
4 ай бұрын
@@arisnersissian5374 I’m not able to lock the front with my retaining pin but I just use a clamp and clamp it in place. Everything sits flush. I’ve only drilled my Franklin but I put the jig on 2 of my other lowers and it still appears to be too much to the left to where I would drill away some of the sidewall of the lower. Kinda sucks cause I have another lower that already came with the hogue freedom fighter and I love it. It’s a lot better than the AR maglock. Guess I might have to use that on this one though
@arisnersissian5374
4 ай бұрын
@@dankshots760 Interesting, honestly wouldn't risk messing up another lower. If it was me I'd just order another jig or maybe try to contact Hogue to see if they will refund or replace the one you bought.
@Zonly1-ye4sl
5 ай бұрын
I think LWRC uses the Hogue setup with Juggernaught rear takedown.
@arisnersissian5374
5 ай бұрын
cool that is similar to what I have seen with my brothers Juggernaut AR15's as well. I know my friends LWRC is older and had an issue when it came down to installing the Hogue pin
@hbouldin1216
Ай бұрын
@@arisnersissian5374 the factory installed Juggernaut kits replace the mil spec bolt catch with a different mechanism, so you have to remove that and install a new bolt catch to take advantage of the Hogue kit. Well worth the trouble of the roll pin to do so, juggernaut button with the hogue kit shaved down is definitely the best system I've tried. Glad to see that's how LWRC is shipping rifles. I'd have a hard time believing a juggernaut lower would have come with the hogue system installed, unless he bought it used.
@HyphyStryke
24 күн бұрын
@@hbouldin1216have you tried any of the ar maglock gens?
@hbouldin1216
24 күн бұрын
@@HyphyStrykeI have not. Did a ton of research and once you get over the fear of drilling into your lower, the hogue is definitely the way to go. It’s the only system that will allow you to break the action with the bolt back (if you file it down as this video shows). The maglocks require the bolt to be released to break the action, which adds another step
@lido7rise
5 ай бұрын
Great demo. What version/generation kingpin are you using in this video?
@arisnersissian5374
5 ай бұрын
as far as I'm aware there is only one kingpin...the AR Maglock which I'm not using has different gens.
@monkeycat48
6 ай бұрын
Well I don’t live in California, so thank God I don’t have to worry about that in Nevada
@arisnersissian5374
6 ай бұрын
you don't have to worry about it until you have to worry about it....this infringement on our rights is like a virus.
@SkiFanatix
6 ай бұрын
I bought a dv8 slide and it was causing light primer strikes, the striker pin bore was extremely rough. I contacted dv8 and they said they would make me a new slide.. I sent the slide back, they had it for months again and they just sanded the striker pin bore and ship it back to me. Seems to work now, but you can still see lots of gouges in the bore... half rate "repair" instead of a replace like I was promised. I wouldn't buy from them again.
@richardcicchino5597
6 ай бұрын
Thanks, seeing your review and others saved me money, time and headaches. Customer service is key, and it sounds like they are bad at it.
@davemcdaniel4856
7 ай бұрын
Its not pushing the trigger bar disconnect/reset down. You can see the difference in the slide milling. Its the small cut in the slide at the top right by your right thumb, above and to the right of the extractor. The oem is squared off, the DV8 is all angled to the insude of the slide. Its probably pushing the trigger bar hump to the inside and not down as it cycles.You could try a PRP or Springer precision trigger bar as their reset is slightly taller/wider and will probably engage with the DV8 angle cut better. Totally a machining change Dv8 made over the SA actuation.
@eagleflownsouth7728
7 ай бұрын
Fuck commiefornia
@ontherun1957
9 ай бұрын
What is the difference or benefit of going with the Hogue+ kingpin as compared to going with the AR maglock+ kingpin? I noticed that with the Hogue you still have to press the kingpin to slightly open the upper receiver then you can release the magazine but doesn't the AR maglock+ kingpin does the exact same thing? I am asking because i currently have the AR maglock gen 4 with kingpin.
@arisnersissian5374
9 ай бұрын
If you don't have to press the kingpin before releasing the magazine then it is not CA compliant. Both systems have to utilize some sort of disengagement mechanism. I went with the Hogue for reasons explained in this video and personally liked the look of it better.
@thesickness530
9 ай бұрын
Dude this video helped me more than any other to help me get my Commie Compliant ar working like I want it to. Thanks for sharing this!!
@nickbalduzzi9977
11 ай бұрын
Will the setup work with an ambi bolt release
@arisnersissian5374
11 ай бұрын
as long as it's a Milspec lower, I know some brands have custom lowers to accommodate for a proprietary ambi bolt release such as LWRC. I have worked on one and had to do a bit of outside the box thinking to get it to work. So it's possible but I would make sure to take a look at the path the hole is being drilled before actually going through with it. I have Phase 5/BAD lever ambi bolt release on my milspec lower and have no problems.
@nickbalduzzi9977
11 ай бұрын
Will this setup work with an ambi mag release? I’m assuming so
@E.L.RipleyAtNostromo
11 ай бұрын
If you scratch your lower just use some aluminum black. I have the paint stick, but actually blending with black is better. I want to get this Hogue kit to go with my Juggernaut rear pin, but am afraid of drilling the hole at a wrong angle into my lower. Looks like the best solution though.
@ObsceneLobster
9 ай бұрын
You don’t have to worry about messing up the angle. The kit comes with a jig to help get the right angle.
@xi-deadshot-ix5838
3 ай бұрын
It’s better to just take the pin out and file the bottom imo. Prevents blemishing anything in your lower and getting metal shavings in your FCG. Also looks better when you’re done & won’t look tampered with. Just my $.02
@brycelocs2386
Ай бұрын
@@ObsceneLobsteror take it to a gunsmith but same bruh i wanna do it my self but knowing me I will mess up lmao
@Championbrandflowerhorns
11 ай бұрын
Would this be still legal? My local range doesn’t really care but my state has recently banned assault type weapons but we are able to buy full ar style weapons with normal stocks and threaded barrels as long as they are fixed mag
@ogworker72
11 ай бұрын
AWESOME VIDEOS- I appreciate your time and effort putting these together. I also appreciate the folks leaving comments and questions, it provides a lot of information for us newbies trying to get our stuff compliant.
@duhSwift
Жыл бұрын
So what is exactly the reason for the filing of the pin? And how does this setup differ from an AR Maglock system with Kingpin? Building my first AR from scratch and wondering what fixed mag setup to go with, thanks.
@MrBlahblahblee
Жыл бұрын
Logically speaking it would be because the mag won’t release if the pin is too long, since it’ll be “engaged” even if the action is popped open. Shaving it down allows you to disengage the pin when the bolt is locked back, which would prevent the action from opening as much. Basically you’re increasing the precision of engaged vs disengaged
@orlandomabry2584
Жыл бұрын
Im having trouble with my pin no compressing after installing the AR Maglock. Any suggestions? Cant find a video about this pin being stiff or stuck up
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
Which pin? Do you mean the Hogue freedom fighter kit?
@orlandomabry2584
Жыл бұрын
@@arisnersissian5374 Its actually the Hell Fighter Kit. Bought a complete JT-15 and working on modifications. Im working on using the steel file but was curious why it wasn’t compressing.
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
@orlandomabry2584 doesn't thr JT -15 come with the kit installed? If you installed it, maybe take the pin out and see if you dropped it in the long way down(which it should be) if it's a fit issue you have have to clean up the drilled hole a bit. If it's neither than I would try a tiny amount of gun oil?. Again hard to troubleshoot
@LabMotorsports
11 ай бұрын
@@arisnersissian5374 i have the hellfighter and want to add a bolt release and have the bolt stay locked back, i wish they would disclose that info before cuz it sucks ass, also having the issue with the bolt not clearing my follower. so what seems to be the best solution? can i run the hogue and the hellfighter button? sorry this is my first ar build and this confused me lol
@Hdic2018
Жыл бұрын
Is this a custom-built? or from the manufacture?
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
Its a Daniel Defense DDM4 CA compliant. Its manufacturer mechanism sucks, so I modified it with what you see here.
@kcgfy81
Жыл бұрын
Dang. Did the OEM optic ready slide from Springfield come out yet when you bought that other one? I would have went that route
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
Was before all that jazz. I finally had it replaced and it still had issues, but I used a Dremel tool to fix it, overall don't recommend these guys. I you want to know how bad they are just go to their social media and look at comments, all disabled.
@maxkandel4451
Жыл бұрын
Might be screws from red dot hanging up on the striker spring
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
Nah, this company is trash. They completely had the slide milled incorrectly..they replaced it but it still needed me to take a grinder to it to get it to work. Worst experience I've had.. moral of the story, do some research before spending your money. $600 slide cost me about $2000
@hollowts4ogs141
Жыл бұрын
Looks like the extractor is smaller at the rear on the new slide. It could be getting hung up there before it reaches the sear safety button. The original appears to fit better and doesn't leave a gap around where the extractor seats. I would swap the extractors out at minimum.
@JamesSilva-gx6uu
Жыл бұрын
I have the same light set up
@ramonfamisan9571
Жыл бұрын
I have LWRCI SPR with a plunger, can this be file to create a clearance between upper and lower to clear double feed with the bcg lock back?
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
Interestingly enough, I recently(1 year ago) did a LWRC. The issue we ran into was that rifle had a ambi bolt release and a slightly off milspec upper design both of which caused us to have some issues while drilling the hole for the Hogue freedom fighter. We eventually were able to get it to work but took some extra parts to make the spring load properly as the hole we were tapping was falling into an open space.
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
Sorry, I got ahead of myself. I am not familiar with the plunger mechanism. is this the mechanism to release the bolt? or the upper from the lower?
@ramonfamisan9571
Жыл бұрын
The plunger (LWRCI Ca compliant) I’m talking about is similar with hogue ff in their function. The only difference is hogue pin is round vs LWRCI plunger is square
@juanvalenzuela9236
Жыл бұрын
" what happens if you file the pin all the way down flush ? "
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
It will no longer function as a CA compliant rifle as the pin won't push down far enough to lock the magazine release button. But the kit does come with 3 if you file it to low you can always swap out the pin and try again.
@martinfletchersandiegoca7523
Жыл бұрын
Do you have instructions and parts list for installing kingpin? The stock ca Franklin armory doesn’t have a castle nut. You just buy carbine buffer tube? How hard was it to remove stock buffer tube?
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
Stock buffer tube took a bit of elbow grease, and I used a heat gun. I tried to use pipe grips but ended up shredding them due to the texture on the CA7 buffer tube. The buffer tube you see on the pistol came with the stabilizing brace. As for instruction on the kingpin I think there are some videos online on how to install them.
@xi-deadshot-ix5838
3 ай бұрын
If you can’t remove the back plate, use a small screw driver to depress the detent enough to remove the old takedown pin and install the king pin. I’ve seen tools on Brownell’s as well to depress detents.
@martinfletchersandiegoca7523
3 ай бұрын
Heat gun no issues
@sacareapyro6326
Жыл бұрын
its a matter of time before they ban this to like the bullet button that wasn't bad enough they make new laws every year that cause gun owners that bought guns legally to be felons if they don't register an already registered gun or destroy it
@mang6423
Жыл бұрын
Looks great
@nickfitz9800
Жыл бұрын
I use the same setup. Kingpin and houge freedom fighter is the best setup in my opinion. How do you get AR pistol in California?
@alejandrocabrerajunior2859
Жыл бұрын
Have you tried swapping the internals from one slide to the other?
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
Ya did all that went through months of headache they slide was definitely milled improperly. I now know every working piece and what it does on the xd9. if you want to see the whole story I made a post of it on xd forums. It ended in a disaster and I finally just gave up...It's trash and worst part is the service. I can excuse some of the stupidity, but they ghosted me and I figured the $2000 I ended up spending on range time/ammo/parts and such was just an expensive lesson. www.xdtalk.com/threads/springfield-xd9-service-9mm-4-trigger-failure-with-new-dv8-raptor-optic-ready-slide-need-help-troubleshooting.453474/
@jacobrochman6630
Жыл бұрын
he has never had a malfunction... he is, the most interesting man in the world
@badbilly1083
Жыл бұрын
These guys are borderline criminals for the products they make, the way they make them & especially the way they sell them!!! Overpriced junk that took over 12 months to receive when they promised it would take 4. Stay away from DV8 at all costs.
@DjDieselLive1
Жыл бұрын
What it be a good idea to do a pilot drill? If so any size recommendations?
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
I would not do that, what you can do is drill it for 1 sec to scuff the lower and see where the hole will end up. As long as it's not damaging the cavity of the lower you're fine. I followed the instructions every time and have had no issues. The only thing to look out for is if you don't have a milspec lower you may not be able to drill down correctly. Look at the instructions for this provided by Hogue.
@DjDieselLive1
Жыл бұрын
@@arisnersissian5374 thank you man super helpful and lastly everything as far as the bolt is concerned works/functions like a standard setup right? Seems like the hogue system is the best option I’ve seen
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
@@DjDieselLive1 yes the rifle operates the same as a milspec AR15 with the exception of having to use the kingpin to break the action. This can be achieved with the press of your thumb..so as far as training goes its almost identical to standard protocol.
@DjDieselLive1
Жыл бұрын
Is the pin permanently in there? Or can you remove it at anytime in the event you decide to go back to featureless?
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
it is removable....
@fourbandits
Жыл бұрын
If you do break the thicker of the two drill bits, the length between the tip of the bit and the stopper is exactly 1-1/8”. Go old school: Get yourself a #29 drill bit (3.454-millimeter drill bit), measure exactly 1-1/8” from the tip, and wrap a piece of electric tape around the bit at that exact spot to stop you from drilling past it.
@E.L.RipleyAtNostromo
11 ай бұрын
I have drill stop collars from a woodworking supply place that work better than tape. But do you use a drill press for this? Seems iffy trying to drill that far into the lower by hand while trying to ensure the correct angle.
@wayneshaff3069
8 ай бұрын
@@E.L.RipleyAtNostromo it comes with a jig to ensure the correct angle
@cramersclassics
Жыл бұрын
Nice concise video with good audio and narration!
@ARAN-yc4pk
Жыл бұрын
Hi there. Many thanks for great explanation. Just wondering if is this kit legal in CALIFORNIA Also is tapping and drilling the lower to install this kit permitted by law. Thanks.
@jeremywilliams2947
Жыл бұрын
Nice tips for installation but isn't that gun too short to be California compliant. I thought that barrels had to be at least 16 inches.
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
This is the CA7 by Franklyn Armory.
@mikeokeeffe7377
Жыл бұрын
@@arisnersissian5374 What upper is it?
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
@@mikeokeeffe7377 Aero Precision upper
@mikeokeeffe7377
Жыл бұрын
@@arisnersissian5374 exactly what I was hoping you'd say. Looking to get the same from Brownel's for my CA7. Which BCG and charger did you go with?
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
@@mikeokeeffe7377 went with all Aero precision upper parts I think it's the nitrate bolt carrier and the charging handle as well
@apocex99
Жыл бұрын
I have a dv8 slide for my Nomad Defense g19 and its a piece of junk. Put a different slide on and it functions perfect
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
ya, the company is pretty much 1 step away from being a scam. They re-milled and sent me a new slide w/o any of the parts I paid for. When I finally got ahold of the owner Nick he apologized and said they have little to no help and their staff was new and made a mistakes. 1 month later still no parts that I paid $180 dollars for and I have a useless paper weight.
@apocex99
Жыл бұрын
@@arisnersissian5374 i actually know the owner. He’s a good dude, but I don’t think he knows how to run a business. I’ll never recommend their products.
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
@@apocex99 ya sad. How do you just rip people off like that. $600+ for the slide 6 months later it took me $500 in ammo and gun range to finally figure out it was defective. I send it back, then 1 month later I get a new slide w/o the upper kit parts I paid for and my front sight. Then ghosts me, at that point its not even negligence its fraud.
@apocex99
Жыл бұрын
@@arisnersissian5374 Thats horrible. Yeah its sad that people can take others peoples hard earned money and not give a damn.
@andrewlopez6195
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all of this. I too was looking to send in my slide. Definitely will not be going with them. After looking at their instagram they have disabled comments which is a bit of a shady move in my opinion.
@jfeliciano1172
Жыл бұрын
wait, are you able to collapse that PDW brace?? or do you have to run it fully extended?
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't collapse like a foldable stock. But it telescopes for adjustment
@jfeliciano1172
Жыл бұрын
@@arisnersissian5374 thats what Im curious about. So you're saying even with the Hellfighter or Kingpin you are still able to telescope that brace all the way down to its shortest configuration!??? kingpin/Hellfighter doesnt get in the way??
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
@@jfeliciano1172 no, you're right. I can't get it down to the shortest configuration. It's a bit extended. But not enough for me to care
@jfeliciano1172
Жыл бұрын
had me excited for a second. Well, build looks good regaurdless brother. Appreciate you clarifying that. Be safe
@davidwing4434
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this video on filling down the hogue freedom fighter pin. I filled mine down and I can now clear a malfunction with the rifle still being CA compliant.
@HongyiMC
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly its better to file the mag release button than the pin, cuz the button is cheaper to replace
@arisnersissian5374
2 жыл бұрын
Not sure how that would work. Also you can get the Hogue pins for like $6 each.
@HongyiMC
2 жыл бұрын
@@arisnersissian5374 im using JT’s lower they fucking red loctide that screw i cant even replace the pin anymore
@arisnersissian5374
2 жыл бұрын
I'm confused are you saying you're screwed because you accidently filed a pin down too much?
@arisnersissian5374
Жыл бұрын
@@HongyiMC check this video out kzitem.info/news/bejne/uW2Yl66moaeBinY
@brucer81
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you.
@anklebiter2862
2 жыл бұрын
This looks better if you're trying to make your ar look close to the original, and it works . But I myself didn't like it , simply because it doesn't lock the bolt back with the last round . Unless they fixed that . So I went with the kingpin and AR maglock system .
@vistalacorsa5343
7 ай бұрын
Not necessarily, If you built your ar from the ground up, With the Houge FF kit it will hold the bolt back to the rear just like any regular AR, By looking at how you “normally” reload a CA ar15 the bolt always locks back to the rear but since you have to crack the action of the gun in order to press the mag release the bolt needs to be sent forward, But thats why all these companies have made pins help creak open just a little bit so the BCG is able to locked to the rear.
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