El mejor motor es el S50... 321cv, Primera generación. Más fiable, más puntiagudo, más nervioso, menos gastón, mejor sonido...🙌
@tomtraynor5384
2 ай бұрын
What about valve adjustment on S54?
@mikeholland1031
2 ай бұрын
Is anybody here an expert on these? I got into an argument with a guy selling one. He claims you can get an M or you can get the M option on a regular one. I thought he was BSing me cuz it had the regular side vents, not the M ones. Is this true?
@mikeholland1031
2 ай бұрын
How does a car guy not know the difference between a V and an inline engine?
@mr.cookie7308
2 ай бұрын
The S52 is adequate in such a small car. The S54 is a little overkill, but its so nice to have and its more rare.
@jamesh7571
3 ай бұрын
Excellent my dude, what a unique retro vehicle... Fun times indeed!
@JAKEWJONES
3 ай бұрын
I own an all original 99' Z3 Coupe with the M wide body and S52. I am adding the VF supercharger kit. The S54 requires valve adjustments, had failures when first introduced. The S54 is a very different animal. Beautiful to look at, Revs to unreal levels and just seems to go and go up the rev range. The S52 is tried and true. Very Very reliable. The final evolution of the renouned inline 6 series. Has lots of options as modifications. Lots of low end torque.
@drifter2090
5 ай бұрын
Any updates on the blue roadster?
@williammagill5634
5 ай бұрын
I just recently acquired a 02 Z3 M Roadster. Just wanted to send a big THANK YOU! I watched your videos on your 98 M, your 01 M, and the comparison video. I think you did an outstanding job on explaining things, and they helped to make choices. Keep up the great work.
@mr.cookie7308
6 ай бұрын
Your content is pretty awesome, I cant believe you dont get more a million views!!! Perhaps you should not focus on the M Roadsters and just review all cars. You should be at a couple of million subscribers.....go for it buddy!
@Iz.beendat
7 ай бұрын
Is it still driving?
@thirdpedalnirvana
7 ай бұрын
The S52 also came in Europe, it was just much closer to the S54. See, there are two engines named S52. The US market one is dubbed the S52B30US. Its got more in common with the M52 than the euro S52. See S engines are supposed to have individual throttle bodies and crazy high flow heads. But when the E36 M3 came out, bmw thought the US didn't want it, since the E30 325i was more popular than the E30 M3. So they never got the proper S52 engine to pass US emissions rules. BMW fans petitioned BMW to sell the M3 here, but they couldn't use the M3 engine. So they took an M52B28, bored and stroked it, and fiddled with the ecu to create the USDM S52, not a true BMW S engine. Both Europe and US got the S54 when it came out. Here's the thing, the S52B30US is a disappointment in the M3, where it fails to deliver the fun of an M3, namely, an exotic engine in a regular car. But the Z3 is already more exciting with a 2.5L engine than the M3 was with the S52B30US. So when you put the mildly hot S52B30US in the Z3, there is no disappointment.
@sportshatch
7 ай бұрын
Sorry to tell you …..you have a Z3. You don’t even have a real Z3M ,you have the weak sauce American spec one with 240 hp as apposed to European 320hp. Even the standard Z3 3.0 produces 220 hp.
@TheManmoths
8 ай бұрын
You guys in the US really got stiffed with that S52. I didn’t know they put it in the Z too, lame. S54 for life!
@nicholasurfe9568
9 ай бұрын
These cars came with housewife spec suspensions. M cars included. Loosing that stuff is an epic journey as the platform is radically transformed. Recommend Ground Control Systems.
@ishindersidhu
9 ай бұрын
Good choice. I would have done the same. One word, drivablility.
@mr.cookie7308
10 ай бұрын
I love that nobody likes these cars, and that makes it a little more affordable. I've had my eye on the S54 Z3 M Roadster and in one year I will buy one.
@daverudabaugh7861
10 ай бұрын
Alex, in a 3m24s video about a Z3 ///M, I only get 24 seconds of BMW footage, the rest contains an IT-nerd (could be one of my collegues) in a white shirt before a white wall :( . Plus: the way you shift, you'll never get to under 6seconds for archieving 60 mph.
@gymwars1244
11 ай бұрын
You need to make more videos mate. You have a genuine style that’s very watchable and enjoyable. Well done.
@alexincars2157
11 ай бұрын
I'm about to have a z4... so a new video is in store
@gymwars1244
11 ай бұрын
@@alexincars2157 great, looking forward to it (from a fellow BMW enthusiast). I wish you the best on YT, you’ve got a knack for it.
@AHealthyRun
11 ай бұрын
Excellent job, on your presentation of a exclamation of a classic…
@m2772
11 ай бұрын
I got mine for $8000. Still have it.
@yankchef4067
Жыл бұрын
How much?
@Roland-rv9cw
Жыл бұрын
I bought a Z3 in Japan when I was there 4 yrs ago mint condition 50 kms ONLY $ 1,300. Canadian Dollars. No M model had 6 cylinder regret selling it looking for another 1 now M model im surprised you didn't keep the S 54 !!
@cologne2792
Жыл бұрын
Personally, the Bond Connection backfired spectacularly! I saw it only had a 140 bhp and put me off the Z3 for over twenty years. I saw the M coupe and thought it was ghastly. Then more recently I discovered that my friend has a Z3M roadster in Estoril Blue with 321 bhp. Never has an opinion changed so quickly. Fantastic thing! Had Bond driven a 2.8 from the start it may have been a bit different.
@god_of_gambler
Жыл бұрын
I keep the 52 because its matching with James Bond car, and im also keep the 54 because of the engine
@scottb2701
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video and comparison. I have a 99 M Roadster with the S52 and I love it. Mine has 23k miles on it. Always garaged and covered. Dinan Stage 2.
@robrecht1
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. Your video helped me begin to understand the advantages of the S54, which eventually led me to test drive one, which I'm buying tomorrow. Love that engine!
@alexincars2157
Жыл бұрын
Enjoy it!!!! They're very fun
@xubious
Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I’m trying to find a lighter weight manual rwd car to have fun with in the summer (without paying an arm and a leg). My goal is to get a Chevy ss but they’re too rare and way too pricey, so these z3’s seem perfect for me. I would love an M model but I’m considering a 3.0 or 2.8 to get a feel, plus they’re way cheaper
@alexincars2157
Жыл бұрын
The 3.0 and 2.8 apparently feel similar to the M. Never driver them but have heard great things.
@rootsmanuva82
Жыл бұрын
The S54 is objectively better in every way but I’ve always liked the S52 better for subjective reasons. The S52 sounds and feels smoother, feels torquier in everyday driving and has a Porsche-like song to its engine note. I worked at a BMW dealership when these were new and remember being kinda appalled by how coarse and grating the S54 sounded, very un-BMW like.
@scotts1354
Жыл бұрын
Did you sell it??
@bimmerlife5452
Жыл бұрын
S52 is bullet proof
@AvidUTuber
Жыл бұрын
The S54 is definitely a GOAT engine (amongst the likes of s2000, RB26, 2JZ...etc) but it's absolutely dreadful in the Z3 M roadster. It twitchy, gittery, very uncomfortable in traffic and around town. S52 on the other hand, even with no ITBs is barely 0.3secs slower (0-60 in 5.2s compared to ~4.9/5.0s). You made the best choice keeping the s52 👍🏻 s54 is best in an e46 M3.
@anthonyhuffman6052
Жыл бұрын
is the m car still for sale. i’m interested
@tonyastrom7757
Жыл бұрын
V6😅
@Euphorica
Жыл бұрын
Great choice.
@jpat329
Жыл бұрын
An S52 is a good engine, very robust. But E36 or Z3 with an S52 240 Hp engine are not //M.... The real //M car is with the S50B30 or S50B32 engine, so the European version 😁 The choice is simple, the Z3 with S54 engine are the rarest .... And the sound!!!!
@ukyo2010
Жыл бұрын
I still have my M Roadster that I bought new in April 2000. I have about 21k miles on it. It has been kept in a garage. It even still has new car smell. I plan to keep it to my death. I sometimes call it my "Gran Torino" (referring to the car of the Clint Eastwood character in Gran Torino, how he kept it to his death).
@jay_z3
Жыл бұрын
It's like 90% Z3 so it's basically an upgraded Z3 especially if you talk about the American spec which only had about 10 horsepower more than the Z3 3.0 😑😑 Oh and the every Z3 after 1997 came with wide fenders. They're both the same width. This video is so off. Lol .smh
@nerkdub
Жыл бұрын
almost shed a tear at the end
@Soh90
Жыл бұрын
I think the best Z3 to get for spirited driving is the one I have. 2001 3.0i M54 engine. They make a respectable 228hp (only 12 less than the M Roadster) but are a tad less simple therefore a bit more reliable (although the S52 is pretty damn reliable in its own right). Where the 3.0i truly excels is price and looks. I prefer the raised fender arches of the regular 2001 3.0i Roadster and you can’t beat the price (for now anyways, they seem to be going up lately). But for $15,000 you can get a clean one and have tons of fun.
@boabie1463
Жыл бұрын
Lucky boy. Ive a 2.0. Thank god its not a real M cos I’d be dead living in Scotland. Think that’s why the North American M was a bit slower
@Alltracavenger
Жыл бұрын
As a fellow Coloradan who likes these cars, I'd like to point out a couple more viable options that sit between the anemic 1.8/1.9 Z3s and the M. BMW quickly added the well-loved M52 I6 to the lineup; my mom bought the higher-spec 2.8L version in 1999. That one put out 190bhp and I remember it was an absolute blast. Definitely not as quick as the S52 M, but in that light a chassis it still moves with authority. My mom absolutely loved that car, but it had to go after my siblings started having children and she needed to do the whole 'grandma' thing. We talked about that car off and on, and I decided to let a couple of cars go in order to find one. The final years of the Z3 came with a power bump; the M got the blistering(if slightly notorious) S54 with its amazing, high-revving nature and over 300 horses. The normal Z3 came with the M54s out of the E46; the 2.5L putting out close to the old 2.8's numbers. The new 3.0, however, put down close to 230bhp; not too far from the S52 M. I found a low mileage 3.0 about six months ago in an almost identical configuration as my mom had her 2.8, even down to the rare optional hardtop. It's been an incredible car and I know it's gong to be a very enjoyable experience over the coming years.
@kuromidori828
Жыл бұрын
good
@dandelionijiran9946
Жыл бұрын
Keep the blue one👍😊👍😊
@dandelionijiran9946
Жыл бұрын
2 M roadster??? Respect bro.!!!👍👍👍
@Gshekela
Жыл бұрын
no doubt you will keep silver s54 bmw
@nizzmo100
Жыл бұрын
Good choice mate , S54 valve check every 3k miles = $3k . I know which one Id keep .
@timschmidt1928
Жыл бұрын
nice presentation of video!! I own a s52 and is very reliable and 240 hp is enough for staying safe and not wiped out in a oak tree or a farm combine!!!!
@sholehan
Жыл бұрын
You guys really got screwed with this generation of M cars. S52 in the E36 and Z3 has 320ish hp everywhere else.
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