The best videos are the ones where you excited about the subject. AMD has put themselves in such a good spot with chiplet design.
@chrisbullock6477
Жыл бұрын
Intel has done well but only in the past 4 years due to AMD's continuous innovation. Thanks to Dr. Lisa Su they have made very strategic short and long term technological and business decisions that will reap their full benefits probably within the next 4years across the board. Basically completing 10 years since ZEN/EPYC/NAVI have come on the scene.
@FeintMotion
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisbullock6477lol SR drew even with two year old stuff after three years of dev and small socket stuff uses multiple times the power to do the same work as Zen 4
@DocNo27
Жыл бұрын
Cities:Skylines 2 is promising to fully take advantage of all cores, stating the only limit on the simulation size will be your computer. I would love to test it on these to see just how it would compare to, say, the 7950x. If it did make a difference I could see hardcore CS:2 players becoming Epyc fans.
@lukabozic5
Жыл бұрын
You would get much more from 1GB extra V-cache than have 128 4c cores
@mos6581com
Жыл бұрын
Is C:S2 using an agent based simulation model? I guess that should scale up embarrassingly well.
@TheHighborn
Жыл бұрын
@@lukabozic5 you don't get the 1 gig for all cores tho.
@DocNo27
Жыл бұрын
@@mos6581com we don't know yet - but it looks like it from the way they are talking about how the cims evaluate decisions they make for transportation, education, happiness, etc.
@TheHighborn
Жыл бұрын
btw, you do realise how disgustingly expensive this is, for a single game right? on a side not: factorio tho!
@JohnCarter04
Жыл бұрын
1.1 GIGABYTES of cache... More on die cache than my first computer had RAM. Truly incredible.
@nicholassmile5800
Жыл бұрын
More cache than my first PC had hdd space. Win 3.1
@JohnCarter04
Жыл бұрын
@@nicholassmile5800 how far we've come...
@catsspat
Жыл бұрын
You must be young. My first PC had 1MB (that's megabyte) of RAM. Many CPUs these days have that much or more L2 cache *for just one core* than that! Now, I'm sure there are people who started out with IBM XT or something. More older to you, then (LOL).
@JohnCarter04
Жыл бұрын
@@catsspat you'd be correct, mid 20s. The first home computer we had was an XP machine from Gateway (rip). Lots of good memories learning the in's and out's of what is still basically the same thing we use today. I'm just glad we didn't get a ME machine...
@dakoderii4221
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's nuts. That's 3 times the amount of memory my first computer had on the hard drive. It was some old IBM. Can't remember what model. Windows 3.1 on it.
@gabrielnilo6101
Жыл бұрын
I love when AMD wins. More competition for Nvidia, Intel and Apple is good for us.
@wewillrockyou1986
Жыл бұрын
One of the reasons the F series sometimes pulls ahead is because of less pressure on the L3 cache, some workloads with poor cache locality will basically thrash the L3 if there are too many cores in a CCX doing it at once.
@soju506
Жыл бұрын
I bet Intel is now wishing that they could just glue cpus together.
@slimjimjimslim5923
Жыл бұрын
Intel’s alder lake from 2 years ago has chiplets. They use silicon interposer to create a true on chip tile design. AMD chiplet is connected through PCB which has delay penalties but it is cheaper and more easier method than intel’s tile system
@boemlauw
Жыл бұрын
Remember them clowning AMD for it's chiplett design, guess that engineer is selling hotdogs now.
@slimjimjimslim5923
Жыл бұрын
@@boemlauw to be fair. AMD chiplet is on pcb board, lol. Intel chiplet is connected through silicon wafer. It a big engineering challenge to go from pcb board to silicon interposer. That is something AMD will have to overcome as the inter chip latency becomes more important
@DLTX1007
Жыл бұрын
They do but the result is Sapphire rapids... or Sapphire sluggish I would say 😂😂
@DLTX1007
Жыл бұрын
@@slimjimjimslim5923 Alder lake absolutely does not use chiplets. They're all monolithic.
@dudao4163
Жыл бұрын
Wow this is brutal. Everybody knows but nobody expect this magnitude of annihilation.
@bitrot42
Жыл бұрын
Great overview! Especially when you have a drink every time Wendell says "dominates".
@Henrik_Holst
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for including some single thread benches, far to many people tend to ignore those since the total system throughput have become such a vital stat these days, but for some work loads the latency is also important.
@deadheadkid92
Жыл бұрын
Does this mean we're likely to see 16-core single-ccd X3D Ryzen CPUs in the near future? That would be a monster of a gaming CPU.
@hammerth1421
Жыл бұрын
The vast vast majority of games hasn't been truly CPU bound for ages. Also, while multicore support is pretty much a given these days, many games can't properly utilize more than 6 or 8 physical cores.
@powerpower-rg7bk
Жыл бұрын
Have some of these workloads hit a limit on their scheduling capabilities? Some of those Bergamo 9754 results seem anomalous. in how bad they are. The 9784X is a beast by all accounts.
@RealGreyGhost
Жыл бұрын
Its been a while for me since I've seen Wendel in a video. You're looking great Wendel, keep it up!
@Heathmcdonald
Жыл бұрын
He's been forced to be a vegetarian by a tic bite ask him about it, it's crazy
@denvera1g1
Жыл бұрын
Remember those HFT focused Xeons from 2009, those "2 core" monsters that ran at 4.4Ghz, but was really a 6 core with 4 cores dissabled, and then all of the cache available to the 2 enabled cores, man the X5698 was an amazing beast, especially if you could firmware unlock those cores and water cool it. Imagine they do that here, 24 cores, 1.1GB of cache, up to 92MB of cache per core if you only use one core per CCD
@tcnymex
Жыл бұрын
I can still see where some of my workload might benefit from such a chip. (More cache per processor the better for large matrix inversions, f'rinstance) Are there more recent xeons than 2009 that use such a "disable some cores to reallocate cache" strategy? Maybe a 16-core that is limited to 4 cores?
@matilija
Жыл бұрын
1.1GB of cache...holy crap, my first PC had 1 MB of memory, 4x256k chips, the cache for the chip was external on the board, and I think it was 32kb for that particular board...though it could have been 16 or 64, I don't really remember 100%, and a 40 mb HDD...and honestly, I never thought I would need more, it was so overkill for that old 20 mhz 386 at the time, oh how far we've come in such a short period of time.
@Aleblanco1987
Жыл бұрын
If someone from the future had told me in 2016 that amd would have a 128 core monster of a cpu just 6 years later I wouldn't have belived it. The most impressive to me is how the embrace of chiplets allowed them to maximize yield and their wafer capacity; and paired to that the way they managed to alleviate the chiplet's inherent drawbacks. (remember the first epyc, it was great in some workloads but poor in many others). This embrace of chiplets also allowed them to iterate faster and tricle down the advancements to the consumer chips too. Finally the last strokes of genius are the avx implementation (from poor to better and more consistent than intel across the product stack) and the c cores with full functionality. Trully trully impressive for a company on the brink of bankrupcy. I hope they can do the same in the gpu front.
@rjScubaSki
Жыл бұрын
It’d be really interesting if you did something with Oxide Computer, considering the amount of the stack they have reimplemented/rethought.
@mikelay5360
Жыл бұрын
I would like to see EDA benchmarks . Specifically between these AMD beast and NVIDIA's CuLitho. Although I see how difficult that would be when attempting to compare apples to apples. Still it would be fun
@nexusyang4832
Жыл бұрын
Just think how crazy things would be when this stuff hit the used market. Holy crap!!!
@budthecyborg4575
Жыл бұрын
I'm just happy AMD's datacenter success is paving the way for Zen 5 R&D. If we include the consoles then I have bought a Zen CPU of every generation except Zen 1, so far every Zen generation has seen huge uplift and I'll probably go to upgrading three generations in a row if the advancement momentum carries to Zen 5.
@GegoXaren
Жыл бұрын
You should try running Lavapipe Vulkan and LLVMPipe OpenGL/OuenCL on in.
@jhonrock2386
Жыл бұрын
I think it would be nice if those lidded CPUs come with some drawing or ther type of visual indication that let us know exactly where the heat generation centers were located, for better termal paste aplication.
@boemlauw
Жыл бұрын
Imagine being that guy who just 3d printed his chop block. 20 people looking over your shoulder as it go's 'CRACK' .... WORLDSTAR!!!!
@sfalpha
Жыл бұрын
Instinct MI300 already got Zen core ... So we may get something in reverse, FPGA, HBM2 or CDNA chiplets may placed on CPU package someday (if market demand it), I think the most beneficial will be embedded appliance/accelerators. One chip rules all.
@tringuyen7519
Жыл бұрын
Nvidia’s H100 GPU & Grace CPU is a poor attempt to bring the CPU to the GPU card. H100 has 512G of DDR5 & 128G of HBM3 for CPU. AMD’s MI300A is a better design.
@NKG416
Жыл бұрын
that's...kind of SoC isn't it?, like apple M1-M2
@predabot__6778
Жыл бұрын
@@NKG416 In essence, yes - a chiplet-based SoC, instead of a monolithic SoC. Technically though, almost every CPU is an SoC to some extent, these days.
@MeteorX1234
Жыл бұрын
LV1Tech never disappoints with checking out these enterprise chips! Thanks for the awesome coverage!
@titaniummechanism3214
Жыл бұрын
Sadly I don't remeber where I saw it, but recently I came across some kind of compatibility list or spec sheet or something, that mentioned a 128 core CPU. Then it said AMD somewhere and I was like "LOL someone must've mixed that up with an ARM CPU, EPYC only goes to 96 cores!" Guess it wasn't a mix-up after all.
@predabot__6778
Жыл бұрын
Sure as FUCK wasn't! ;) God bless AMD for keeping the pressure on the market - no CPU-manufacturer can sleep well as long as they're still executing - keep lighting that fire!
@tcnymex
Жыл бұрын
About Genoa 16-core three-quarter gig cache chip, is that hard wire 48MB per core? Or if I'm not using all the cores does it dynamically allocate more cache per core? (i.e. if I specifically write my code so that I'm only using 4 of the 16 cores, do i get 192 MB per core?)-
@chrisbullock6477
Жыл бұрын
..."Pay Attention Class"....yes Mr. Wendell...
@DissertatingMedieval
Жыл бұрын
I want to see this for sort of weird Digital Humanities projects -- stereophotogrammetry (although it'd need a good graphics card too), machine learning of old scribal hands, stuff like that.
@not-another-dev
Жыл бұрын
NGL, you should be part of AMD Wendell, you do a good job of marketing their server side of things. I keep looking at Genoa I currently have a 7551 Epyc for my workstation, but definitely my next rig will be Epyc again. I think my only gripe is the lack of normal IO on server mobo's a lot of people prefer Threadripper but I honestly love having IPMI which. Asus rack is my favourite though with no license cost for the IPMI unlike supermicro. Machine learning right now is kinda hard to get into fully, I run a Xilinx Alveo u250 FPGA accelerator for NN's but they're not super convenient to accelerate all types of models, or even port to. I hope that AMD is working on bridging the gap though with their new cards, I am a little disappointed that the Xilinx/AMD FPGA side of things has paywalls for some of their accelerators, as a dev I need to use these cards to actually learn to go into production environments, and don't want to buy the potato dev boards they have, I'd rather have what the company is going to deploy. For AMD to have a full edge on NV cards I think we need: - FPGA portion (which can be locked and changed in groups of cell's) - A plug and play solution to just using these accelerators with PyTorch/Llama models without converting to proprietary Xilinx stuff. AMD/GPU creators: - please, make GPU/accelerator cards memory up-gradable again, with AI we need to be able to put more than 256GB of vram, without having to buy another card when our model gets too large... I want to run more than one network at once...
@levieux1137
Жыл бұрын
It's nice that they're increasing the number of cores per CCD. On no-so-old 24-core 74F3 (zen3) it was limited to 3 cores per CCD (the techno would allow up to 4 max for a 32-core), and the inter-CCD latency was absolutely horrible, making you regret not passing the data via a floppy disk instead, making it impractical to use for applications using more than 8 threads. On zen4 they increased the limit to 8 cores, which is significantly better for many workloads by allowing applications to run up to 16 threads with great performance. So if they raised that to 16c/32t with zen4c, that's even better and an awesome news, it will unleash all that power that was not usable before outside of clouds where you sell CPUs one at a time.
@manemobiili
Жыл бұрын
I wonder how fast this cpu would H265 encode my 500GiB video library. What a madlad!
@boemlauw
Жыл бұрын
Son, you can store that shit on a USB stick in the directory BEFORE and encode it on another dir called ENCODED all on the same USB stick, got to put those numbers up :)
@manemobiili
Жыл бұрын
@@boemlauw this is totally irrelevant to the video about a monster cpu. And usb sticks, really?
@spuchoa
Жыл бұрын
Impressive piece of silicon and an impressive video Wendell!
@HexerPsy
Жыл бұрын
I wonder about the thermal solution and the chip temperature in this situation. The Vcache chiplets have notable worse heat dissipation than the regular CCDs on the consumer platform. No thermal tricks? Just a drop in replacement under the same coolers? With 400W in that density, it seems wild to me...
@Eli9A
Жыл бұрын
Jesus dude, i havent seen a video from this channel for an entire year and your weight loss makes you look younger.
@mika2666
Жыл бұрын
There is no 9784X, as the 7 stands for 128 cores. You mean the 9684X right? Would be nice to have this clarified in the description or in a pinned comment
@VideogamesAsArt
Жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment!
@auturgicflosculator2183
Жыл бұрын
Interesting to see potential performance uplifts for specialist tasks~
@vasiovasio
Жыл бұрын
Like the good, old days of Opteron! Keep going AMD! 😊😊😊
@dllsmartphone3214
Жыл бұрын
i wish AMD on CPUs would do the same great job with their GPUs
@post-leftluddite
Жыл бұрын
Well, unfortunately there are several reasons for that, number one being the fact that the T.A.M. on enterprise x86 is much larger than that of Consumer dGPUs. Also, enterprise customers ACTUALLY buy items on empirical data, whereas consumers, like consumer psychology has shown us for a long time, buy items for a host of irrational reasons, and this is what makes Nvidia's monopoly so hard to break. AMD could objectively release better GPUs that offer more performance for the dollar and people would STILL keep buying Nvidia just do to perception and the parasocial relationship Nvidia fans have formed with the brand. That and Nvidia spends an amount on GPU R&D that AMD spends on both x86 and GPU R&D and then AMD still have to compete with Intel at the same exact time and Intel is spending over 3x as much as AMD on R&D....in other words, AMD is competing against two rivals at the same time and both of them have access to significantly more financial resources, which makes it all that more impressive that AMD's able to do as well as it does, but also explains the limitations of the resources AMD has to compete against Nvidia.
@SomeUserNameBlahBlah
Жыл бұрын
The money is in data center CPUs and laptop CPUs. AMD almost went bankrupt prior to Zen. Add that general consumers will buy Nvidia even if AMD produces a superior GPU, and you start to see why AMD focuses on CPUs.
@PineyJustice
Жыл бұрын
Last gen AMD gpus were superior, the radeon 6000 gpus were more power efficient and had often superior performance to nvidia, yet people still bought nvidia. This generation AMD is faster and has more vram for less price at every pricepoint yet people are talking like you "I wish they did the same great job with gpus"
@SomeUserNameBlahBlah
Жыл бұрын
@@PineyJustice AMD needs several generations of superior GPUs to cut into Nvidia. Otherwise people won't shift.
@PineyJustice
Жыл бұрын
@@SomeUserNameBlahBlah AMD is superior for GPUs at every price point this generation aside from the 4090, and power efficiency isn't a real argument considering how widely ignored it was last gen when nvidia was losing badly at it. A 7900xt is 100$ less than a 4070ti, nearly 10% faster and has 20gb of vram vs 12gb, does it really matter it uses 70w more power?
@fracturedlife1393
Жыл бұрын
That's some crazy stuff they got going on.
@davidkindred1089
Жыл бұрын
@Level1Tech, do you know if the Linux kernel and the tool chain have had CPU specific optimizations added to them yet for these new CPUs? If not, I'm curious how much difference that would make.
@-szega
Жыл бұрын
There are no architectural differences you could optimize for with these.
@marcin_karwinski
Жыл бұрын
Kernel itself nothing more or new specific for these chips, the improvements would come from better NUMA arrangements for respective use-cases, but there are apps in server space in data/big data/compute/client serving that could be configured for more cache used to improve in memory performance or for more in number but slightly less heavy concurrent processing pipelines per socket/blade/rack...
@eruiluvatar236
Жыл бұрын
In the next gen desktop 3d chips it would make sense to have a 3d v-cache die and a zen4c die. Specially if they improve the infinity fabrick so the 16 core chiplet can derive some benefit from the other die cache. Won't help in games but it could be both a gaming and productivity beast. I also think that they should put some L4 over the IO die.
@Psi-Storm
Жыл бұрын
The Genoa and GenoaX graphs are labeled as 2P. Did you limit the test to 96 cores on those systems, or are those running with 2x 96 cores vs 128 on Bergamo? Will there be dual Bergamo boards too, since they are basically drop in compatible with Genoa?
I want to buy one for gaming. Where can I get one??
@josephderogatis2978
Жыл бұрын
Im absolutely blown away tbh
@MrDrTheJniac
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Intel is at all concerned. I also want to see benchmarks of the 16-core V-Cache part in games.
@predabot__6778
Жыл бұрын
They absolutely are concerned - Intel has continued to lose market-share in Server and HPC for almost 5 years now. Now that they've had to do some down-scaling in order to cut costs, you can bet they are more concerned than ever. If the trend continues, which it honestly appears to be, then the two companies might end up being about the same size.
@jayvee8502
Жыл бұрын
There was a prototype 2 chiplet 3dv cached Zen 4. But the advantages are not that high.
@hamzashaikh9310
Жыл бұрын
Can you test the 1gb 3dvcache cpu in simulation heavy games vs 7800x3d, like lategame stellaris or factorio. And other cpu heavy titles like 1080p cyberpunk with rt on 4090
@knightsun2920
Жыл бұрын
So there is theoretically room to move to a 12 x 16 configuration for 196 cores?
@igoresque
Жыл бұрын
8:52 Symmetric or Simultaneous? I know there's Simultaneous Multithreading (SMT) and Symmetric Multiprocessing (SMP), but what's Symmetric Multithreading?
@EinSwitzer
Жыл бұрын
3D vcache perfect random high load shifts
@supernenechi
Жыл бұрын
This is so cool! I want to see this be taken to the extreme some day. Maybe a bit-little core design. Put 2 of those 16 core chiplets on a die, together with 10 hypothetical 64 core (small weaker cores) chiplets and bam: 672 core server. Bye competition, bye gpus!
@MasticinaAkicta
Жыл бұрын
Good to hear, Word was getting a big sluggish. This might just fix it. Joking aside. THAT is some real powerful CPU. I am sure some webhosts and other hosting services will LOVE this one. Not to mention businesses doing important calculations QUICKLY and so on. Scientists will drool at the idea of such power, the amount of complicated models they can throw at that!
@elina6969
Жыл бұрын
Would be great if you ran rustc on these. Rust is infamous for having slow compile times. It'd be very interesting to see how it looks on these systems
@ADB-zf5zr
Жыл бұрын
@Level1Techs Can you answer me these questions. With such an enormous amount of L3 Cache, can these be used (for fun and testing) with no "system/main memory".? If not (most likely not), can you show some kind of test that hits the CPU hard, but doesn't need a lot of RAM, and then test it with the full compliment of RAM vs a single 8GB stick.! That would be a fascinating test to see, although I cannot suggest any tests for you, but have noted that you saw some impressive increases in "DwarfFortress" with massive L3.
@Pillokun
Жыл бұрын
100% AMD will pretty much remove the l3$ from the ccd and only have l3$ added to the ccd with the v-cache. instead of the cache being sandwiched between the cores it seems to me be logically to have the cache above/below the cores.
@jannegrey593
Жыл бұрын
Would be great. But for now connections were removed to save space. Maybe when they axe "whole" L3 cache, they will use some space from this to have connections and have a L3 die on top.... or bottom of the package?
@VideogamesAsArt
Жыл бұрын
the problem with having cache above the cores is, the cores create heat, and that heat would go into the cache, which is very sensitive to high temperatures. Hence, currently 3D cache is only on top of L3 cache already on-die. Zen 5 will be the same, but I expect Zen 6 to fully utilise V cache from scratch (since Zen 6 design started after V cache was already functioning
@jannegrey593
Жыл бұрын
@@VideogamesAsArt Yes. That is why they are also experimenting with cache being below and some other tricks with core topology. Details are unknown to me, but I'm certain that they are thinking about it really hard and have some of the smartest people on Earth working on it.
@patrickmorse7549
6 ай бұрын
Any chance you can run a COMSOL benchmark of some kind? I do a lot of COMSOL simulations and they all run on a per core basis and not per thread. I currently have a dual socket 9554 EPYC system with 1.8TB of RAM.
@Level1Techs
6 ай бұрын
We have some threads on the forum with comsol it's an odd duck under windows but more consistent on linux .. videovappn I hope
@garrettkajmowicz
Жыл бұрын
Is there anything new for socket sWRX8?
@rn.s9
Жыл бұрын
Hi wendell, what will be gaming performance impact on kvm running win10 on linux host let's say passing 7cores from 5800x3d or 7800x3d to VM
@ReinaldoGonzalezreix2x
Жыл бұрын
i want one oh these monsters, just to plat wow vanilla and watch KZitem videos, ad of course to admire the windows task manager
@gotthis5613
Жыл бұрын
Can other pc components even catch up to this speed? Cus if ssd cards and ram cards and gpu cards cant really match this speed then whats the point?
@jannegrey593
Жыл бұрын
Yay! Thanks For this!
@jossushardware1158
Жыл бұрын
So it looks like, that if you build server with Ryzen 7950x desktop CPU you get better single core performance, at least in some workloads.
@444chroma
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure it will make a fine upgrade to my plex server
@justacomment1657
Жыл бұрын
Hey Wendell, I am following you for a while now.. I do have a interesting workload for you, maybe. We have deployed a vsan cluster with 100GiG wires speed, however our Intel cpus struggle verry hard to go anywhere close to wire. They top out at about 40gig/s. This is already running multiple iperf instances and jumbo frames. I wonder if those amd cpus can handle network IO any better?
@Level1Techs
Жыл бұрын
Post to the forum an iperf spec
@CJonestheSteam72
Жыл бұрын
Did I miss the costs of the systems?
@PyromancerRift
Жыл бұрын
Cool, faster access to cat pictures and bath tub livestreams
@porksandbean
Жыл бұрын
how about RAS?
@lukabozic5
Жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@viktorarchprime
Жыл бұрын
Please show some cinebench =)
@serhanayoub374
Жыл бұрын
wow , that's amazing from AMD, how much this monster would be ?
@danielbarnes3406
Жыл бұрын
Thinkmate has a configurator for the Supermicro Hyper Server 1115HS-TNR and 1125HS-TNR. Systems (considering cpu/memory only) range from a single-core 9754 w/192GB at $17k to dual 9684X w/3TB at $81k. Drives can easily add $25k or more in larger servers.
@serhanayoub374
Жыл бұрын
@@danielbarnes3406 Is this HURRICANE for sale ?
@thenerdysk8er
Жыл бұрын
It’s all fun and exciting but what we desperately need is AMD to release a new HEDT Threadripper that has the lanes, ram and performance for the consumer/prosumer to buy.
@TheDudeWithSome409
Жыл бұрын
PLEASE! Test LLMs response time compared to A100, H100, 4090
@ambhaiji
Жыл бұрын
7950CX3D, 32 core 192MB 3D V-Cache. Is the dream right now. There are people shelling out RTX 4090 money. I don't see why an absolute bonkers CPU cannot exist.
@madnesssoft2012
Жыл бұрын
AMD, threads go BRRRRRT. Carry 196 cores, and 384 threads on a /single package/, if AMD used the 12 chiplets instead of the eight. Meaning on just a 2 socket system, AMD could theorhetically have on a single motherboard, 384 /cores/, and 768 threads... My brain. I'm not a fanboy of intel or AMD, but sheesh, what the fk can intel present to even counter such... ridiculousness, and at this point, it is ridiculous(oh it's HW porn for sure! And I love it! More cores AMD you crazy bastards! MOAR CORES!).
@udirt
Жыл бұрын
can we have a socket g34 version now ;-)
@jorgesilveira763
Жыл бұрын
Is it possible for a mere mortal to build an epyc system for rendering under 8k?
@steffennilsen2132
Жыл бұрын
No shot, that cpu alone is easily ~10k+ USD probably closer to 15k USD
@VideogamesAsArt
Жыл бұрын
you are better off with something like a threadripper. I would say Threadrippers are better performance/price than Epyc, Epycs are sold in bulk to big companies.
@lolilolplix
Жыл бұрын
Sweet wooden floor!
@samghost13
Жыл бұрын
Miss Lisa Sue
@dakoderii4221
Жыл бұрын
My games should run at 1,000 FPS now! YAY! *I know that's not how it works. I'm not that dumb, I'm half a point above that. Come on man!
@wujekcientariposta
Жыл бұрын
and the countdown to linus benchmarking it by way of playing games with a software renderer starts now xD
@mikedeath7333
Жыл бұрын
how does a miner cluster node work there is always a master and a slave
@aleksandrbmelnikov
Жыл бұрын
128 still isn't enough for AI. Trust me. Your brain may not compute as fast, but it has many more cores, all working in parallel to keep you functioning. Your brain is able to reuse and create new pathways as needed, discriminate useless information, build storage space, and index all that stuff you learn. We'd need a whole room full of CPUs to recreate just a fraction of what our human minds can do. Rest peacefully, computers are not ready to take over the world.
@Johnithinuioian
Жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@doxydoxdelamanca9902
Жыл бұрын
Wendell - do you know what pensando is?
@Level1Techs
Жыл бұрын
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@tkpenalty
Жыл бұрын
So potentially epyc could get up to 192 cores...
@VideogamesAsArt
Жыл бұрын
it will, with Zen 5c
@mrfilipelaureanoaguiar
Жыл бұрын
Octo hexadeca chip that maybe just needed cache to make things faster knowing the power limits. Why not to love, if it was high clock chip able to run faster and use all the cores at their limit for the price of the chip, at the motherboard and cooler power limit. It wont ever reach on all cores for calculation or rendering or anything heavy higher that 3ghz with maybe single thread loads, that won't go over that either. That's why xeons are to me, more interesting. Single core performance is important, mostly at idle for repo tasks and light loads. Good to be able to handle more entries with all those cores but that's it. That cache is what is injecting faster all those loads, light or heavy or medium. The cores are really ordinary to me. ECC likes it at least.
@1idd0kun
Жыл бұрын
You're missing the point. This 128c CPU was designed to address a specific segment of the market that doesn't need as much power per core. This is the segment of the market in which ARM-based server CPUs are starting to get traction (like the Graviton or Ampere Altra). AMD is not competing against Intel in this segment of the market. It's competing against ARM offerings. Next year Intel will launch a similar CPU for this market called Sierra Forest (all e-cores CPU). But they're late to the game.
@VideogamesAsArt
Жыл бұрын
If you watched ServeTheHome video (you can briefly see it here when Wendell compares Bergamo to Ampere's 128core CPU), you could even say Bergamo cores are way too powerful for its task. Cloud providers need half the single-core performance that Bergamo offers, maybe even less. And the more cores (all of them equal) the better, since they can have more clients in a single SKU.
@udirt
Жыл бұрын
GKH doesn't deserve a big system like that, he should still feel how he stated "multithreaded delayed io device init is not feasile, i tried and it didn't work for me" while commercial unix had it long solved!
@only4posting
Жыл бұрын
Cool server stuff, but... After almost 10 years, with 4core intel cpus as the standard, and 6-8 or 10+ cores only accessible to the 'less poor', it was amazing, to watch amd arrive, with their cheap 'a-ton-of-cores' cpus, and for the first time, the entire planet could have fun with 8, 12 or even 16core , without having to sell an organ to the israeli mossad. After the amazing cpus such as the 5950x, etc, amd seemed to be the cool guys who cared about making gamers and non pros happy. Everybody was expecting, and hoping amd would release some crazy non-threadripper, 24 or 32core cpus ! But no. The 'cool' amd showed everybody that their only friends are... the shareholders. Gamers, semi-pro users, etc: they don't give a fuk. You are rich and need it ? Buy epyc. You are a super pro user ? But 32, 64core threadrippers. You are a 'regular' user ? Buy a normal 8,12 or 16core. If amd wanted, today, people could be having fun with 32core systems. 3 years from now, people could be having fun with 64 or even 128core systems. Now, it looks like, 2023..2024..2025..2026... it's gonna be 'take these 16 cores, and go fuk yourself'. 0 to little innovation. And please, don't tell me 'ohhh, who really needs more than 16 cores, today?!!!', anyway ! Hadn't Amd released their ryzen cpus, today, 2023, we would probably still be buying 4cores intel cpus... and most people wouldn't have enough cash to buy a 10 or 12 cores! And intel would need 0 extra R&D... and could be selling their 8-12core cpus until...2030 ! Now, amd is going to do what intel did, during over 10 years : another revision, 5% faster this, 3% less that. Then, another revision, 8% faster this, 6% better that. Then, another year, another revision, and there we go again, another 7% faster with this, 5% better with that... 16 cores, 2024... then, and another 16cores, 2025.... and another 16cores, 2026.. and 2027... and 2028.... Want 32cores ? Grab $4000, and buy a threadripper... So sad, really. They COULD do it... but for $ reasons, they don't want to do it. From a $ standpoint : is it better to sell , say, 10'000 threadrippers, at $4000... or sell 200'000 16cores, at $800 ? Maybe I just too stupid.
@VideogamesAsArt
Жыл бұрын
In a recent interview with TPU, AMD stated that they can't increase core counts without improving memory bandwidth, since each core needs a lot of data from memory, and dual-channel memory in desktops can't currently handle more than 32 threads. Maybe with DDR6, which is supposed to be a big change? We will see. Threadrippers and epycs have much more IO, and thus, also more cores
@rae4487
Жыл бұрын
Can it run hearts of iron 4 though?
@paulladdie1026
Жыл бұрын
But can it run DOOM? 🙂
@GegoXaren
Жыл бұрын
You could probobly run Lavapipe OuesCL on that CPU and it not being totally terrible... Even running Lavapipe Vulkan and OpenGL would probobly be possible and not be a total disaster.
@jmd1743
Жыл бұрын
Pretty soon the Per core licensing will cost more than a heart transplant.
@upgrade1373
Жыл бұрын
I am excited about this in our data center but I still do not like Genoa salami.
@tessierrr
Жыл бұрын
6tb of ram per socket ??????
@chlorobyte_projects
Жыл бұрын
a small amount of ram
@scudsturm1
Жыл бұрын
amd installing an Arm chiplet in their cpus, a hackintosh has never been easier 😅
@iancamarillo
Жыл бұрын
Send me the link and I’ll do some dynamics simulations and automated LiDAR reconstruction‘s with the ram
@DukeAbbaddon
Жыл бұрын
"We where not Worthy!"
@joeykeilholz925
Жыл бұрын
Pog
@marcwagner9404
Жыл бұрын
wendell my man what happened? There is barely anything left of your body man. Your almost completely gone
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