This engine failed at the race track during the first session. Tearing it down now: forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=754783
@aacar4095
2 жыл бұрын
Ouch!
@TopVineVideos
Жыл бұрын
Why? Oil starvation???
@jasonpoletta1797
6 ай бұрын
@@TopVineVideosprobably 7k redline lol
@azzcoopz3270
Жыл бұрын
My 2.5 just made 185 bhp and 200ftlb with full exhaust, intake and race cams, done a 5.95 0-60 in the wet and span all through 1st
@eddieh9857
2 жыл бұрын
bro u always have good content! thank you for all the time u put in making these Zent.
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that. Thanks!
@MitchelYardley
2 жыл бұрын
Car made great numbers for the mods or lack there of! Can’t wait to go the track and battle with ya
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to get destroyed! Especially with your new diff
@Thiborfirenz
2 жыл бұрын
hey dude i noticed on one of your recent videos that you have not braced the back end of your nc! i recently braced mine and iv gotta tell you it has transformed the car. it handles better rides better and feels like a higher quality car! handles better, corners better,,,, everything is just BETTER!!!! ok! it has also improved the how the car accellerates as the power nolonger has to go through the bodyflex before going to the road. the 3 il motorsport braces are, interms of mx5 modding, dirt cheep! turret brace in the boot, mid brace behind the oem x brace (looks abit like a mantaray wing) and a bar brace behind that. anyway hope this helps. loving the videos. miata 4 life!
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in trying them. Where do I buy them?
@Thiborfirenz
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZentRose ok it seems youtube dosnt like me linking the to page! i am in the uk but the guy from the "coloured in light" channel, who is in the US has some of the braces fited to his car so you might be able to drop him a comment to find out if he got them US or ordered them from over here. to navigate to the right page on mx5parts uk, go to mark 3, suspention and steering, chassis braces. the 3 braces that really make a difference are Chassis Brace, Mid Lower.... Chassis Brace, Rear Lower....Rear Upper Strut Brace. go for the red il motorsport ones, those are what i put on! there is a 5 peice kit on there but you dont want that because the engine bay brace isnt good, if you want to change your engine bay brace go for the 4 point ultra racing brace. if you want to know more on this i can hopfully link you to my cars project thread on the UK owners club forum. ok, hopfully youtube will let me post this comment! 4th time lucky eh
@Thiborfirenz
2 жыл бұрын
lol it took me 8 tries to post that comment in the end
@danielchung3566
2 жыл бұрын
Would be really interested to see a comparison video between this and the s2000 and which one you enjoy more. the 2.5 cam in my NC definitely feels faster but love having 9k redline vtec in my ap1
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about that since I started this project but I am waiting until I track the 2.5 miata to finalize my thoughts!
@robertpearce5553
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZentRose can't wait to hear I've owned an AP1 and AP2 and well around town I really love my PPE headered NC1
@TopVineVideos
Жыл бұрын
Can confirm that the S2000 assasinates a 2.5 NC
@TheFracturedfuture
Жыл бұрын
@@TopVineVideos I doubt it. I've seen a 2.5 miata keep up with a Porsche GT3.
@tylerhoover1770
Жыл бұрын
@@TheFracturedfuture if done properly my JDM F20C powered AP1 with an ap2 trans hits 60 in 2nd in the low 5’s. The additional shift is what makes the Miata slower. I’ve kept up with NSX’s.
@kartaku132
Жыл бұрын
I'm currently doing this swap on my 07 Focus
@b-dogs1038
2 жыл бұрын
Wow awesome! & it sounds strong
@Ageratos01
3 ай бұрын
This would be interesting in an rx8. I wonder if its possible.
@earl8590
Күн бұрын
Considering this swap was wondering what other upgrades from stock id need to think about apart from brakes
@aacar4095
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I’ve been looking hard at a Fab9 2.0 turbo’d Miata so good to see what the 2.5 can do. Turbos can make some impressive low in torque and high-end horsepower, but it sounds like you get pretty decent torque fairly early with that 2.5. Plus you can probably find an engine pretty easily. (Shoot, I just saw your comment about the engine blowing at the track.)
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
I'm building a new one. It will just take awhile to get going again.
@johndon7384
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your vid. Awesome!!
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks
2 жыл бұрын
She back!
@mr.adventure559
4 ай бұрын
That engine in a NA or NB Miata would wicked.
@sethalton205
2 жыл бұрын
Just to put this into perspective... my 2022 challenger R/T 5.7 hemi does 0-60 in 5.2.... this car is doing that on a stock 2.5... now throw some headers, cams, and open up the piston rings just a hair... throw some boost at her and you're in SRT territory :D
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
Hey I have header, cams, light flywheel, and track tires on this mx5. I think an srt would destroy me until I add some boost to the mix.
@jeffeffinggluck
2 жыл бұрын
great build and thank you for sharing! you might have mentioned on a previous video, so I apologize for asking, but where did you buy your motor and cams? from?? thank you and enjoy!
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
I bought the engine from LKQ on eBay and the cams from Fab9. Just be careful with fab9. Their tune caused my first engine to fail. Their 2.5 tune was way off as well. I got a proper dyno tune from a miata tuner and all is well!
@ltfudd
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZentRose Engine years that work with the swap? 13’-16’ a good fit?
@jeffeffinggluck
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZentRose Thank you!
@millenialmuscle8254
Жыл бұрын
That's faster than an S2K AP2's 0-60. Probably on par with an NA tuned one now.
@ivanfilipovic3296
2 жыл бұрын
Atm driving gutted and lightly modded 330ci, but by the day i tend to look more at mx-5 nb and NC. From your Pov as you owned and modded both platforms, (miata is always the answer) is there big difference in fun factor excluding fact that mx-5 has got no roof.
@Chilicharger665
2 жыл бұрын
NC is light years ahead of the NB.
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
For a fun car the Miata is hard to beat. For daily, the bmw is going to be more useful. I have been daily driving my NC with no complaints.
@Tylerou
Жыл бұрын
Oh hey I just went to Silverado canyon in my NC miata also
@gerd3480
4 ай бұрын
The NC came in 3 types of MICA Grey, wonder which one is yours, looks really nice.
@ZentRose
4 ай бұрын
I will check. It is in storage right now until the weekend
@EchoSigma6
15 күн бұрын
Is this CARB legal? My CA registered NC1 has 190k miles so when the original 2 liter engine is done I wanted to get exactly what you have. The 2.5 with headers and probably an off the shelf flash kit later on.
@ZentRose
15 күн бұрын
not technically legal but if you live in a smog free county its not a problem.
@smilin_lin
2 жыл бұрын
0:07 I think the license plate is suggesting a different coilover for the car 😉
@JohnButler-iq8rl
Ай бұрын
I've still got a hankering to itb my nc1 but if this would be a more viable daily ------?.
@ZentRose
Ай бұрын
Yes even with mild camshafts it is still daily drivable. I have put a good amount of miles and about 20 track days on the car
@printedprops8730
2 жыл бұрын
How much crank hp is that?? 177RWHP = 246HP Crank? Thats nice if so! 5.33secs is incredible. My goal is a NC3 (I had a NC2 daily for 6yrs, loved it) but as a project car one day Ill buy one again. Then I'll keep the stock 2.0L but add BBR Individual Throttle Bodies, intake and exhaust cams, header, midpipe, muffler, tune My end goal would be 165rwhp / 230hp crank. I'll weight reduce it as it would be a weekend car only, from 1167kg to ~1050kg is my goal. That's would be a good power to weight ratio. Seeing your results for inspiration makes me excited for what I could expect! Great video, sick quick shifting. Also, noticed you had to shift to third to get to 60mph, I can get to 62mph in second gear? Does the new engine not rev as high as the stock?
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe 210 - 220 crank depending on drivetrain loss. Yes the rev limit with the 2.5 is set pretty low so I need to shift to third to hit 60. I could rev it higher but I would shorten the life of it
@printedprops8730
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZentRose Ok thanks. 2.0L with BBR kit increases rpm from 7500 to 7800 should be interesting.
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
@@printedprops8730 hell yeah.. that's gonna be awesome
@robertpearce5553
Жыл бұрын
Hello Zent I have an opportunity!! Which would you do an 06 mx5 2.5 built engine with track suspension by best 2.5 builder in America or a 93 NA with a 5.3ltr thunderbird engine big brakes great install! Your choice??
@dungernator
2 жыл бұрын
Just bought a header and 2.5 for my NC, what cams did you go with?
@Chilicharger665
2 жыл бұрын
Fab9
@MitchelYardley
2 жыл бұрын
Fab9
@hunterlilley1228
Жыл бұрын
I got my nc into the low 4 second range at 310whp but it blew so turning it down.
@ZentRose
Жыл бұрын
That sounds like a fun build 🤙🏻
@hunterlilley1228
Жыл бұрын
same i made 305 whp and blew in only about 4 months. debating on going back fi under less timing since im sc. or leave it na as it sits right now.
@lookoutforKURT
2 жыл бұрын
ohlins livable for a street build? Planning on picking up a clean NC2 this summer to daily in new england and the roads can be rough out here haha
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are good for street driving. Nice and comfy 🤙🏻
@Colyers
2 жыл бұрын
Very coo;
@JULESRULES9969
2 жыл бұрын
Are there be any negatives you can feel by the removal of the balancers in the 2.5 engine?
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
I can feel a slight increase in vibration at idle. Try to test drive one to see if it bothers you.
@robertpearce8822
2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to buy a NC1 2.5 with gwr header ..stg2 Eslinger cam..car dyno 202whp 196lbft but cat and exhaust deleted it's just too loud ..to do purchase i want full cat and exhaust reinstall like your car!! have you upgraded keepers springs retainers??Thanks
@mannnygz
2 жыл бұрын
you can get a header with a cat, and a midpipe with resonator and a cat as well if needed. there's plenty of options just Google what you're looking for. ”NC miata header" or midpipe, ect.
@1carlosi
Жыл бұрын
Does the 2.5 pass California smog I just blew my Daily driver 2006 nc engine ..thanks
@ZentRose
Жыл бұрын
no it is not legal
@ltfudd
2 жыл бұрын
Any plans for forced induction? Have an 07 GT PRHT and looking to do the 2.5 swap when I’ve got time/$.
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
I prefer to stay naturally aspirated. I am thinking to build a high compression 2.5 next to try and break the 200whp mark.
@phoneroni
Ай бұрын
What cams did you use?
@ZentRose
Ай бұрын
Stage 1 from fab 9. I think Brian crower manufactures them
@robertpearce5553
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome car!! What trans 5 or 6 speed isn't the 6 speed geared smaller??
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
6 speed. Yes I have to shift to 3rd before hitting sixty. The gears are pretty short
@robertpearce5553
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZentRose Wow that makes your 0-60 even more impressive I've got an 08 NC1 5sp and considering a 07 NC 1 purchase that has a 2.5 with 6sp and GWR header free flow cat and Enkei RPF1S like your car i think I'll be IMPRESSED!!😄😄😄
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
very nice! enjoy your NC. The 2.5 NC is surprisingly quick
@robertpearce8822
2 жыл бұрын
You only have header mod on this car it's not cammed? You launch at 5500 I've heard a 2.5 not cammed will stop pulling at 5200rpms? Have i heard wrong? Does this car pull to 6800 redlines with just header swap??
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
Stage 1 cam. Pulls strong to 7200 rpm
@robertpearce8822
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZentRose thank you sir for response!! That explains it!😎
@xvpboyx
2 жыл бұрын
How much was the labor cost for the engine swap + misc parts?
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks
2 жыл бұрын
Was in the last video believe said $2200
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
The shop charges $2100 labor for 2.5 conversion which includes the cam install and the other stuff like intake porting, balance shaft delete etc.
@rolldog82
2 жыл бұрын
What shops you recommend to do the 2.5 swap in Los Angeles area? I live in the IE closer is better for me.
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
@@rolldog82 The first shop I used messed up the swap and the engine blew. I am taking it to another guy who only does these swaps but he is in San Diego.
@rolldog82
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZentRose Goodwin shop? It's a drive but they seem reliable.
@notrichard5872
2 жыл бұрын
Yo how tall are you I’m a little taller and I wanna get myself one of these cars and I’m not sure that’s a good idea I’m 6’3
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
I am 6'. You would probably need to get the seat drop brackets to fit
@48763405
2 жыл бұрын
Hey man how do you pass the CA SMOG with the swap?
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
I have to pay someone off. It’s not legal
@TheMatanelihav
2 жыл бұрын
What app is this?🤔
@Balo657
2 жыл бұрын
Wow that engine is dirt cheap compared to the s2k and the car is as fast, maybe faster than a s2k.
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
Yes but a modded S2k will be faster than this. It will be interesting to me to see how it performs on track. It feels like a mini muscle car. I am really enjoying it
@kaiglembocki
2 жыл бұрын
What happened to your Camaro you put the car on my map
@ZentRose
2 жыл бұрын
Tires cost 2k every track event. It was fun though
@anroopahl
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZentRose holy shit lol, that's why I chose a civic type r over an ss 1le. If I'm being honest with myself even the civic is expensive to track. I should start tracking my na Miata.
@jjosa52
Жыл бұрын
400$ 2.5 engine... In europe if you want one its 2000 euros..
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