Must have been a nightmare back in the early jet fighter age. Difficult to tell friend from foe since the designs were so similar.
@gregmenego2200
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Kurt Tank.
@cesarst3720
3 жыл бұрын
such a beautiful planes
@FaceNapalm
11 жыл бұрын
Well if u didn't know the MiG15 had the an invention called "Sirena",which was in the back of the plane and it could receive radio signals coming from Sabre's gunsight on the distance of 8km and warned the MiG about incoming attack from Sabre and helped the MiG15 to avoid it, and "Sirena" made the gunsight useless and kind of a disadvantage for the F86,today "Sirena" is used in cars and is known by the drivers as antiradar , so I think its u who should start reading books here
@itsumonihon
8 жыл бұрын
That MiG-15 has a very clean burning engine compared to the F-86.
@alexpaumen3937
8 жыл бұрын
MiG's have a reputation for that
@RobertMorgan
7 жыл бұрын
itsumonihon neither of these were deigned to burn the chemtrail-containing jet fuel of today...
@jorisvermeulen7175
6 жыл бұрын
Robert Morgan you must be one of the people who believes the earth is flat.GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.
@whydontyoucomehome
6 жыл бұрын
Robert Morgan chemtrails aren’t real the stuff coming out of jet airline engines is pollution and high speed exhaust the “CHEMTRAILS” that you see (*they don’t exist*) are actually *contrails* WATER VAPOUR BECAUSE WATER AT HIGHER ALTITUDES BOILS AT LOWER TEMPERATURES DUE TO DECREASED AIR PRESSURE SO THE HOT JET EXHAUST BOILS THE WATER IN THE AIR THEN THE WATER CONDENSES TO CREATE THE VISIBLE TRAIL...
@josecamacho8862
5 жыл бұрын
Pues en Corea le dieron por saco al mig 15, y a base de bien.
@funkyrussiancat4340
9 жыл бұрын
That would have ended a lot quicker with some guns. (Just saying...)
@rodrigogonzalez7858
4 жыл бұрын
The MiG is such a handsome jet
@marknorris1381
2 жыл бұрын
Simple straightforward design, but beautiful at the same time.
@herobrine2511
9 жыл бұрын
Its all about the pilot.
@jackhwang6134
8 жыл бұрын
+Yo Momma MiG-15 came out of Ta-183 plus British RR Nene engine. F-86 came out of North America's own P-51 design plus German's swept wing plus British engine technology. Ta-183 and Mig-15 both were mid wing plus high tail wing. F-86 and P-51 both were low wing plus low tail wing.
@solomonpilot2510
8 жыл бұрын
+KurwaSniper PILOTS SKILL 2 KILL IN A GOOD WILL AND PAY OF THE BILL !
@andre232323
5 жыл бұрын
If I had to choose I would love to fly the MIG-15. Looks sleekier and greener. Since it is smaller and probably lighter, I bet it can also turn and roll faster.
@nanomachinesson.5186
4 жыл бұрын
In fact the f86 turn faster, mig climb faster. F86 was a little bit more advanced than mig but i will choose to fly on a mig 🤣.
@contonio
4 жыл бұрын
andre232323 The Mig 15 doesn’t have a good roll rate like the F86.
@DuVey64
4 жыл бұрын
Contonio it doesn’t like diving at a high rate of speed , Yeager almost found the hard way on his testing of the 15
@NakedUndone
3 жыл бұрын
Migs have reputation for being very maneuverable compared to the American aircraft...
@princesofthepower3690
2 жыл бұрын
@@nanomachinesson.5186 Only at high speeds .
@FaceNapalm
11 жыл бұрын
Finally, so happy to hear it from a person that knows what he s talking about, thank u for posting this comment
@JusticeLeagueJH
Жыл бұрын
I'm hoping NAFEC confirms this incredible reenactment for the 2023 NAFEC Festival of Flight! This is one of my favorite aerial performers.
@kocsiszoltan1989
9 жыл бұрын
F-86 just don't give a shit that the Mig-15 is behind him ... I'm very dissapointed, I could be much more intresting then that.
@daniele86388
8 жыл бұрын
The two jet are realy similiar
@Rob-vv5yn
Жыл бұрын
The two greatest fighters of the fifties
@inselvideo
12 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Video!I like it!Greetings from Germany!
@Ev75geny
4 жыл бұрын
показательные полеты, в реалях боя все происходит на пределе по перегрузкам как для пилота так и для техники (все движения будут резкими обрывистыми)
@yerlanyerlan7328
3 жыл бұрын
Да понятно, что показательные, а не боевые. Чего хотеть от самолётов 50-х годов?
@FaceNapalm
11 жыл бұрын
"Sirena" took the element of surprise away from the Sabre pilots
@bobford01
9 жыл бұрын
I hate to tell you... Air show dog fights are a show, all staged. Very rare to get a real fight at a show... Everybody lives...
@carsnbikes914
8 жыл бұрын
You're a dumbass.
@bobford01
8 жыл бұрын
Good one!
@andre232323
5 жыл бұрын
But WWE isnt staged!
@ratchaneetechamahalap5897
4 жыл бұрын
Cars n' Bikes yes you are dumbess
@Sraddhabandhu
4 жыл бұрын
Nooo!
@anglicky69
5 жыл бұрын
it would be extremely difficult to tell them apart in the air, in the old days. they have such a similar outline
@NakedUndone
3 жыл бұрын
Who copied who?
@mdejoss1311
3 жыл бұрын
Except for the trail...
@stanleyyager4941
2 жыл бұрын
@@NakedUndone They all copied the Germans, the Russians copied the Focke-Wulf Ta183 and the Americans took German aerodynamicists, including Kurt Tank, by doing his "Paper Clip" operation.
@kingdomofprussia9749
3 жыл бұрын
its hard to tell 'em apart, but i think its the tails and colors/markings that distuingish both of them
@onblock7
11 жыл бұрын
LEGEND!!!!!!!!!!!!
@1madcanuck
8 жыл бұрын
both good planes, f-86 has way better sighting but the mig carries a way bigger stick.....37mm cannon
@DavidLee-xi1of
3 жыл бұрын
As evenly match the planes where it still came down to the pilots.
@alespersin6066
5 жыл бұрын
Good tactic for Mig not for F-86. If this was in the war Mig winns battle. The faster, more agile ,much lighter can easily turns out a Sabre.. So American pilots avoid this kind of tactic and use dive attack one. Fire and run. Same as it was used in WWII pacific theatre.
@pedrosabino8751
5 жыл бұрын
And the f86 releases smoke.
@yerlanyerlan7328
3 жыл бұрын
Жаль, что я такого вряд ли увижу вживую.
@kaktusztea
12 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@edl617
3 жыл бұрын
In 1953 A Major Yeager and two other test pilot evaluated a MiG-15 flown to lieutenant Ho, from North Korea. After doing the evaluation an aairforce colonel (an ACE). Said the Saber was superior. Yeager said it comes down to the pilot. They went up Yeager flying the F-86 was the colonel flying the MiG -15. They switch Yeager flying the MiG-15 waxed the Colonel flying the Saber. Book entitled Yeager publish 1985
@alexlo7708
10 жыл бұрын
It's the only Soviet jets that won over US jet in real air combat. Eventhough F-86 developed follow up The Mig-15 had been deployed several yrs later. It couldn't win over Mig-15 at the time. By the fact that US Jet engine still lag behind UK on that time also. Many US plane licensed UK base engine for their own jet. So it 's no doubt on F-86 loss.
@alexlo7708
9 жыл бұрын
Perhaps only your grandfather's F86 which had J-79 haha. Mig-15 came earlier F-86 several yrs. That's why F-86 copied some characteristics of the plane. Also the Soviet side has it own records of mig15 won over F86 at ratio 15:1. It depend on each side propaganda. J-79 is the 1st American jet engine that 's not rely on Brit's engine. But it still lag behind RR-Spey of the same era. Again J-79 came along with F-104 , F-4 phantom that's later generation fighter after F-86 , F100s.
@RJL681
9 жыл бұрын
alex Lo The F-86 copies nothing,so don't even go there with that inbred fantasie bullshit shit of yours.The Mig 15 is plainly a loser as anyone with a brain in their head can clearly see..LOL..F-86 copied nothing dumb ass the F-86 was hear before the Mig15 so how could it have copied any characteristics? Put a lid on it will ya? the Soviet records lie but that is typical soviet lieing shit as Alexnader Zuyev had pointed out ,if that was the case ipshit their would be no south Korea so the Mig 15 did not win over the F-86 15 to 1 LOL that's so funny and such line of bullshit than how they didn't win the war? Yeah right hahahahahahahahaha such a tard and jackass
@alexlo7708
9 жыл бұрын
RJL681 It's hard to accept that F-86 was a later copy design of Mig-15 in most characteristics. Particulary American but for one's unbiased historical aviation mind. It's there.
@RJL681
9 жыл бұрын
F-86 is not a copy of the Mig 15 sorry the dimensions of the two are far different,the F-86 was actually built before the Mig 15 and the US actually had a jet before the F-86 a Naval carrier jet known as the Bell P-59
@jackhwang6134
8 жыл бұрын
Mig15 was a copy of German Ta183 and UK engine. One designer of Ta183 designed a jet using RR Nene II engine and it was so much like Mig15. F86 came from NA inc's P51 mustang design with German swept wing and UK engine tech.
@migueldeniseful
2 жыл бұрын
Today, Russian and American historians such as Cookie Sewall and Diego Zampinni admit that on 10/01/1955, not 10/08, there was the first kill of a jet by another jet. An F-80 Shooting Star patrol engaged three MiG-15s and veteran First Lieutenant Semyon Fyodorovich Khominich spotted 10 F-80F aircraft. Khomonich turned left, leaving the sun behind in combat formation. As a result of their attack, an F-80 was shot down. He opened fire at 800 meters, and stopped firing at less than 200 meters. Coming out of his attack, the lieutenant struggled to gain altitude. Major Bordun with the rest of the team attacked four F-80s that were trying to attack Khominich. The Americans went to the others without success, and finally abandoned the fight..." "...The Russian-built fighter was flown by five Air Force pilots. The F-86A-5 Saber underperformed when compared to the MIG-15. However, the superior training and tactics of the US pilots established a "kill ratio" better than 8:1 over MIG. [ kill-ratio also fixed: 1.3 to 1 ] (Photo: National Archives and Records Administration) *www.aviation-history.com/mikoyan/mig15.html*
@michaelpascual3581
2 жыл бұрын
I would love to fly the F-86 though. The pilots I met described them as sports cars. MiG-15 no doubt beautiful too but that F-86 is just so handsome. Pity that in the Indo-Pakistan war, they were being whooped by Gnats
@jerros1715
4 жыл бұрын
Working those old birds!
@imnobodyanon9430
4 жыл бұрын
This isn't a plane vs plane dogfith... This is a man vs man dogfight, the planes are only minutely different, but essentially, the same. Mig pilot had balls on 'em alright... F86 guy can break away easy,he's got the roll rate, to play against the migs. Pretty good this video
@CNBJ
10 жыл бұрын
My father in law was a pilot of Mig-15 of China Air Force during Korea War. He tolk me he's never fought with F-86. LOL
@royalboogie875
8 жыл бұрын
Hes lucky lmao
@gregmenego2200
5 жыл бұрын
Dont blame him.
@alex-ex7fs
9 жыл бұрын
красивые самолёты. мне нравятся!
@FaceNapalm
11 жыл бұрын
and "Sirena" was quite helpful in the war
@rockeel9549
2 жыл бұрын
Vaya k duelo de dos. Aviones k marcaron una istoria
@leehansen4750
4 жыл бұрын
Several factors in plane design made the difference! The F 86 had radar ranging in its gun sights & the Mig didn't! The 86 had hydraulic boost on the flight controls so was more responsive & the Mig didn't! The 86 pilots wore anti - G suits to better stand high G forces, but not the Mig. didn't The 86 pilots were better trained & dominated the fight until the Russians put their WW2 aces in the Migs. & then the ratio was still over 1 to1 in favor of the 86! A Mig. was delivered to Japan by a defector & was studied for its weaknesses & the F 86 pilots used that information to increase the kills on the Migs. & dominate the sky again!
@user-yj7oq8ll4i
5 жыл бұрын
Сейбр слабак.Ни в горизонтали не надо ни в вертикале уСейбра нет никаких преимуществ.Видно что пилот МиГа сбрасывает. скорость,чтобы не проскочить вперёд Сейбра,особенно на вертикалях.Спасибо за ролик,давно хотел воочию увидеть такое маневрирование.Все мои мысли подтвердились.Все хвалебные слова " знатоков" авиации о Сейбре- это пустой звук.Проиграть наМиГе бой Сейбру может только школьник.Слава Советской авиации!!!
@jayoyo1001
Жыл бұрын
It’s like rewatching the Korean War.
@abc-jf6fu
8 жыл бұрын
Миг в начале хорош, но потом теряет энергию, как мне показалось.
@АркадийБлохин-ж5ь
3 жыл бұрын
Наконец-то подружились!Равны.
@ratiboryarov5375
9 жыл бұрын
а где бой ? это на пилотаж похоже...
@spreadeagled5654
5 жыл бұрын
The MiG-15 is more heavily armed with one 37mm and two 23mm cannons compared with the F-86’s six .50 ca. machine guns. ☝️
@GSpotOperator
11 жыл бұрын
Sorry but you're wrong :) The Sabre dominated the sky with a 1.74% winratio over the MIG.
@DrRyan82994
3 жыл бұрын
That f-86 has a somewhat amusing unintentional message.. haha
@gspotmop8242
7 жыл бұрын
F86 shoots down 560 Migs to 78 losses and made 10 F86 double aces, two strike groups of the coast of north Korea, play on!
@evghenigordienco7915
6 жыл бұрын
There are other figures. For example. Soviet pilots of the 64th Fighter Aviation Corps held 1.872 air battles, during which 1.106 enemy aircraft were shot down, of which F-86 were 650 units. Loss of the hull: 335 aircraft. or here ...the book "Air power - the decisive force in Korea" (Toronto - New York - London, 1957) It was stated that the US Air Force only in combat battles lost about 2,000 aircraft, the loss of "communist" aircraft they then estimated more modestly - in about 1,000 aircraft. Nobody will know the truth. All sides overstated the number of victories and reduced the number of defeats. The usual thing in the war.) Therefore...do not, my friend, make categorical statements.
@anushmikael2540
5 жыл бұрын
Fuck you numbers say 600+ dead f 86 and when soviet pilots controled the migs well the f 86 could pray to survive
@nanomachinesson.5186
4 жыл бұрын
It's not good to say "shoot down”, it is called "credit".
@mecorion1296
4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaaaa, not 560, a 56000000000000 hahaaahaha idiot
@ed.mil.5029
21 күн бұрын
Both are german Focke-Wulf Ta-183 Huckebein copies.
@leehansen4750
4 жыл бұрын
During the conflict the USAF used P 51 prop planes! No match for a jet! When the F 86 came along the 86 dominated.
@NoShyGirlHere
13 жыл бұрын
dances in *screams* anyone here ever film 'pilots cross' ??? iz the hardest shot to film
@GSpotOperator
11 жыл бұрын
If you want real history start reading and stop watching! The Sabre also had a radar guided gun sight and it was much better for the pilot in every way. If i had to choose witch plane to fly in combat I would take the F86 over the MIG15.
@GSpotOperator
11 жыл бұрын
Thats what the Soviets thought in the coldwar yes. Today we know the Sabres dominated 2:1. Everone says that.. even the Ruskies.
@oraculumdelphicum3310
3 жыл бұрын
Достойны друг друга были птички.
@LOVE-ct6bp
4 жыл бұрын
スゴい空中戦だ!
@TomcatE303
11 жыл бұрын
The F-86 makes visible smoke trail and that probably was not a good thing during the Korean war.
@FaceNapalm
11 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@YoutubeBobr
9 жыл бұрын
37 мм и 23 мм пушки против 12.7 мм пулеметов... американские пилоты плакали 37 mm and 23 mm guns against 12.7 mm machine guns ... american pilots were crying
@nemesis10444
9 жыл бұрын
есть такое понятие как плотность огня, в этом плане 6 пулеметов предпочтительнее.
@RJL681
9 жыл бұрын
The .50 caliber is very well capable of shooting down the MIG as well as it was shooting down German and Japanese aircraft during WWll,the Germans had bigger 30 MM as well but bigger doesn't necessarily mean better.The Browning .50 caliber could fire more rounds in only half the time,so I don't quite think that the Americans were crying because they scored higher kill ratios over Korea,read some history dumb ass
@nemesis10444
9 жыл бұрын
RJL681 правды теперь никто не узнает, все утонуло во лжи пропаганды
@thinking_logically
9 жыл бұрын
Были и пушечные варианты типа M39 но их скорее всего было мало
@RJL681
9 жыл бұрын
Иван Ложкин If you are going to reply to me on here type in English..The F-86 womped the Mig 15s ass it is on record..The Mig 15 is not Superior to the North American F-86 100% FACT!! For every F-86 Lost there were close to 10 Mig 15s lost 100% FACT!!! got the FACTS?
@GSpotOperator
11 жыл бұрын
Wenn man in den USA etwas gegen das Land oder die Regierung sagt passiert nichts. Es herrscht absolute Meinungsfreiheit. Man wird anders als in Russland wegen seiner Meinung nicht gefoltert oder weg gesperrt. jeder Amerikaner hat die Chance das Land problemlos zu verlassen wenn er Lust hat. Es gibt kein Land der Welt das soviel Freiheit bietet.
@josecamacho8862
4 жыл бұрын
Mastica páncreas. 1:7 no. Fueron muchos más. El último trimestre de guerra, los americanos (y mal que les pese a los que robaron un sabre. Por algo sería) se cepillaron en torno a los 345 mig-15. Está en la historia; lo siento por los fans de ka otra acera.
@mikecheck7940
3 жыл бұрын
244 f86 downed against 556 mig15 downed
@patrickeh696
4 жыл бұрын
F-86 v MiG-15 combat data over Korea shows the actual kill:loss ratio for the F-86 was 1.8 to 1 overall.
@gregmenego2200
5 жыл бұрын
Both designs belong to Kurt Tank.
@pedrosabino8751
5 жыл бұрын
The f86 is based in the messerschmitt p1101 and the mig 15 is based in the focke wulf ta 183.
6 жыл бұрын
Same will be with Russian Mig41 and f22 lol
@FaceNapalm
11 жыл бұрын
no u r wrong, where u got that from? Russia still claims it shot down 1106 planes, while losing 335 planes of their own, and Soviet pilots had more skill and experience than American pilots, and comparison of planes shot down by top aces of these 2 opposing sides proves that, so please educate urself and read about the MiG15 more yank
@yurijsmislov2190
4 жыл бұрын
Оба самолета красавцы, но миг лучше...
@yerlanyerlan7328
3 жыл бұрын
У каждого самолета свои преимущества.
@sandplus5048
5 жыл бұрын
Sound track from a prop engine.
@rprince418
11 жыл бұрын
F-86 is awsome!
@johnrussell3755
Жыл бұрын
Mig 15 all the way
@luka2298
11 жыл бұрын
no actually,soviet operated MIG dominated 2-1,USAF f86 dominated north korea and china migs 8-1 :)
@FaceNapalm
11 жыл бұрын
well the soviet claim they shot down 1106 planes, while losing 335 planes of their own, while americans claim they shot down about 800 MiGs and lost about 80 F86s, I guess u r American, so u have a full right to believe what u want and I have a full right to believe what I want
@THISKIDISAWSOME2
11 жыл бұрын
no not really.
@GSpotOperator
11 жыл бұрын
no :) the MIG's operated by Chinese and Korean pilots lost in a 4-1 ratio. However the Sabre is actually better.. not by much but it's a better aircraft.
@GSpotOperator
11 жыл бұрын
obviously it didnt help the poor MIG Pilots that suffered a worse K/D
@111BOGDANS
11 жыл бұрын
Mig -15 is much better Sabre
@c130avn
10 жыл бұрын
Typical American vehicle, gets shitty gas mileage and pollutes :oP
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