Check out the towing test. 10,000lbs with a 4 cylinder! kzitem.info/news/bejne/yZl3xaB9fYSWoag
@JJJ5.7
Жыл бұрын
The 5.3 is downshifting up hill because max torque is at a higher RPM. Nice thing about the turbos is the low end torque. The turbos should get better MPG unless you're towing. Mileage will drop off towing. The 5.3 has had lifter problems. Overall it would be nice to know which of the two engines is most reliable and durable. Thanks for the video. Good info.
@LinusScrubTips
Жыл бұрын
Probably both shit. GM has a terrible track record with small turbo engines. And the 5.3 is unreliable because it’s the new LT based engine. LS based LM7s 5.3s are still on the road pushing 400k-500k. And small turbo gas engines are awful to lug, it’s what destroys them. Mustang owner who were used to V8s destroyed A LOT of ecoboosts because they were lugging them in high gears. This problem is only going to be worse in a truck. The solution right now? Don’t buy a new truck. Of any kind. Go buy a GMT800, GMT400, or squarebody Ford if you want a reliable truck.
@63DW89A
Жыл бұрын
@@LinusScrubTips "Small Turbo Engine"?. A 2.7 L 4 cylinder has the same crankshaft and bearing layout as a 5.4 L V8, (plus can use the exact same pistons and rods as the 5.4L V8) so the bottom end of the 4 is just as strong. The 4 cylinder crankshaft is actually stronger than the V8 due to only having 4 rods attached. The inline 4 has a far simpler, more efficient valve train than the V8, and far fewer moving parts. The longest lasting engines I've ever run are the Toyota 20R / 22R SOHC 4 cylinders which lasted MUCH longer, and gave far less trouble, than any Ford, GM or Dodge V8 I've ever run
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@@63DW89A there's a lot of 4 cylinders that last 300k miles
@backwoodstherapy
Жыл бұрын
The Chevy 2500 was one of Consumer Reports most reliable vehicles last year. The 1500 was one of the least. Biggest difference? No lofter problems because it doesn't have the 5.3 or 6.2. It's got the 6.6.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@@backwoodstherapy I personally find it hilarious when new vehicles are given dependability ratings. JD power has like 500 awards so every vehicle wins some
@killercan10
Жыл бұрын
MPG testing vs comment section is always a hoot. Anyway. I've had three HD trucks with the 6.0, two trucks with the 5.3, a diesel Colorado and now a 2.7 HO. Worst were the 6.0s (obviously). All 3 of them (04, 06 and a 15) got around 11mpg per tank avg in the winter, 13-14mpg per tank summer. On a long distance trip (NY Thruway) over say 150mi round trip you could squeeze 15-16mpg out of them. The 5.3s. First one was a 2012, the second was a 2019 old body (same as the 2014-2018 style). the 2012 had AFM enabled, got 13-14mpg per tank winter, 16-17mpg per tank summer. The 2019 was AFM disabled and 93/E85 dyno tune. Pre mods it was a 14mpg winter, 17-18mpg summer per tank truck. About the same post mods (except on E85). The 2.7 HO is the second best MPG truck I've had, and feels faster than my 2019 did stock, maybe a hair off it post tune. Its 5049lbs curb weight, where the 19 double cab I think was around 5400lbs. So far I'm running 18mpg per tank winter, 19-21mpg per tank summer. I tried a 100mi MPG loop with it, cruise set at 58 in a 55 zone for about 90mi, the other 10 being city and got 26.9mpg.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Yep that's spot on
@rdsii64
Жыл бұрын
My 2018 2.7L ecoboost F150 gets about 27 in 10th gear at 59 mph. I can't say I will always drive a Ford, but I won't ever go back to an N/A V8.
@VayaconChupacabra
6 ай бұрын
This pretty much describes my experience with our 23 1500 LT Crew 4x4. When I tow 5500# TT u get average 10 to 12 mpg
@danieltaylor4819
Жыл бұрын
When people claim that their 5.3 gets 25 -27 mpg. they're either lying or just don't know how to figure gas mileage. I've owned 2 Chevy 4x4 trucks with 5.3 engines. Don't get me wrong, the 5.3 is a great engine, but I've never gotten more than 17 or 18. I know other owners who are getting about the same.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, the only way they get that gas mileage is if they set the cruise at 45 and reset the fuel meter already up at speed going downhill lol
@sking2173
Жыл бұрын
You nailed it … 17-18 … but I do like that engine … But not as much as I love the 3.0 diesel !!
@johnnynguyen9449
Жыл бұрын
I've gotten past 26 mpg on highway use and proven at the pump😂
@joeloconte2314
Жыл бұрын
I get 25-26 mpg with 600lbs in the bed at 50mph on fairly flat roads. At 70mph I'm getting about 18 tops. At 80 I'll be lucky to get 14.5 lol. Here's a quick vid kzitem.info/news/bejne/0bBouauakXpqhIY
@joeloconte2314
Жыл бұрын
@@johnnynguyen9449 kzitem.info/news/bejne/0bBouauakXpqhIY if you can really get 26+ on the highway I would be impressed
@lancewhite1758
21 күн бұрын
I have to say on my 21 Chevrolet Silverado RST Z71 4x4 i drove from Texas to Gatlinburg Tennessee. I got 19.5 mpg.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
21 күн бұрын
So you're pretty much in agreement then? I just drove a couple states over and got 25 mpg in the 4 banger.
@Lawnfella
Жыл бұрын
You really need to manually check the fuel mileage. The lie o meter is usually not correct
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
When they first started adding them to cars they were pretty bad but they are pretty accurate now
@sking2173
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 - The way to prove your point is to check it manually. You’ll find that the 2.7 indeed beats the hell out of the 5.3. With that, I still say I prefer the 5.3 over the 2.7 … But also, I prefer the 3.0 over the 5.3 !!
@flyer8493
Жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed that now a days when compared with hand calculations they are pretty close. You also have to take into account that hand calculations are not always accurate either due to pump measurement variations. The best way to check hand calculation accuracy is to use the exact same pump you previously used.
@ericjaczek2411
Жыл бұрын
I have the same but diesel. It’s extremely accurate
@Jay-bw3fl
Жыл бұрын
I have a 22 5.3 and I always hand calculate and compare it to the trip and the truck always says I got 1mpg better than I did. That is pretty close but still wrong and always worth hand calculating. My truck is one of the lucky ones that does not have dynamic fuel management which is the reason I bought jt. I get 15mpg city and 18 on the highway. My 2021 Silverado 1500 I had got 17/18 and it did have dynamic fuel management. Not worth the constant worry of lifter failure IMO. It’s a shame they put it on the 2.7. Time will tell.
@strozyvoodoo5395
Жыл бұрын
I have a 21 Trailboss with the 5.3. Impressive as the 2.7 is, I just couldn't do without the V8 rumble. The first week I had the truck, I installed a Pulsar LT to get rid of the auto start/stop and DFM disable, and who wants their truck to sound like a helicopter...? I also installed a CAI cold air intake and a muffler delete pipe from Summit Racing. Additionally, I changed my throttle response to 20% over factory. I was getting IRL 14-16 mpg prior to the mods. After, I was getting around 13. I then switched fuels and strictly run a Pure 90 no ethanol fuel. It seems to have brought me back up into the 14 mpg avg, and I drive this truck like it's my Vette. The Pulsar was a bit pricey at $500, but I have no buyers remorse. The simple fact in knowing it may just save my lifters, cam, starter, fly wheel, battery and rear end, trumped the price tag. I'm no engineer, but it just seems that spreading the workload over 8 cylinders would be better than spreading it over 4 of them. Seeing as both transmissions can be found in both trucks (no special gear magic). I don't hate on the 4 banger bros out there. Its just a matter of preference I guess, but the fuel savings for me doesn't justify me giving up the sound and seat of the pants feeling you get from a V8.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Definitely miss the v8 rumble
@paisteplayer1040
Жыл бұрын
You want the best mileage from the 2.7 ho, get it in a Colorado or canyon
@blackericdenice
Жыл бұрын
I have owned a 2016 F165 for 6 years. It has 87k miles on it. People think I'm joking when I them I have to slow down to get on the hwy. When I towed my 2001 Cadillac Deville on a Uhaul trailer. I was coming up the on ramp and was amazed how weak the engine was sounding. I had to hit the brakes because I was doing 75 mph when it was time to merge. I have the video if you want to see it. My twin turbo 165 cuin aka 2.7 ecoboost may sound like a minivan but pull like 6.0 liter truck v6. When I'm not towing. If I drive 68 mph with the cruise control on. It will get 26 mpg.
@kabloosh699
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty pumped to see what the 2.7 does in the upcoming Colorado.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Should be awesome in those
@johnroberts4823
Жыл бұрын
Because 10 speed is geared different than 8 speed.
@donaldhollums3278
Жыл бұрын
For longevity of the engine outlasting the monthly payment schedule, I will still have the V-8. Buying a full-size pickup for gas mileage makes no sense.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is I used to have a 2007 Gmc 2500 with a 6.0L V8 which got about 12mpg. This has more HP than that truck.
@sking2173
Жыл бұрын
But CHOOSING one pickup over another based on fuel mileage makes perfect sense …
@RB1_877
Жыл бұрын
Would like to see a video with you towing your tractor with this truck. I have this engine and would love to see how it performs towing a heavy load like that 😊
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Funny you say that, I was already planning it! I can tell you today I was towing my big trailer and some lumber (maybe 4500lbs total) and driving along the highway in 8th gear and no downshifting thinking how amazing that is for a 4 cyl
@mikec2825
10 ай бұрын
Having to always defend your purchase because everyone knows that is a 4 cylinder.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
10 ай бұрын
I like gas mileage, makes me feel better about driving 30k/year
@tonycolca2241
Жыл бұрын
I have watched various tests on thex4 cylinder engine yours came out with better milage than most. I buy a truck and keep for a long time. I know they do a lot if testing but the technology is a little scary I am currently driving a 2013 gmc 1500 cast iron 6 4 speed auto I will keep it as long asi can have had virtually no trouble change motor oil and filter everyv3000 miles transmission oil and filter every 30000. Milage 160000 uses no oil use valvoline oil.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I watched a couple comparison videos too... and the only one I could find that went head to head on the same loop was using a lifted 4 cyl with larger tires. Thats why there wasnt a difference
@matthewwade3810
Жыл бұрын
I just bought 22 gmc sierra new now I have 5000 miles I get 22 on hiway and I'm not taking it easy doing from 65 to 85 and passing. It is a 5.3
@Jackknife-TV
Жыл бұрын
Eh I think the exhaust note you get with a V8..... to me would be worth the $960 a year 😂 it would be different if V8 we're still getting 15-18 mpg on the highway like they were years ago.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Lol, can't argue with that
@oversoul3482
Жыл бұрын
4cy is a dumb idea. Next they will bolt it to a cvt transmission. You'll save no gas towing with this. Hey i have a idea lets do a 1 cylinder engine! Smh dumb Chevy made in Mexico crap.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Lol, turbos usually get worse mpg towing, but this thing gets great mileage when not towing. I'd like to see a 2 cylinder opposing piston turbocharged 2 stroke motor.
@oversoul3482
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 I want a no cylinder v8. With cvt diesel transmission. Just because the automakers think they can sell us any pos.
@francof6383
Жыл бұрын
my guess your better off with the 5.3 for longevity there is no benefit to buy the 2.7 turbo truck your looking of having a lot of problems with that 4 cylinder down the road
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Keyword: Guess
@dutch4117
Жыл бұрын
They are doing just fine.
@6SPDLS162
Жыл бұрын
I own the 5.3 and was able to borrow the 2.7 for a week or so. 2.7 is not horrible and if you are one who just uses the truck for daily driving then probably okay. My issue is longevity of the turbocharged engine. The truck sounds terrible and from my limited experience it sounds like it’s always working so hard. Personally I would stick with the v8. But I will say the 2.7 is not as bad as I thought it would be
@jameseroh6544
Жыл бұрын
I test drove a 4wd pickup with this engine back in 2020. I bought something else. The engine is fine. I prefer a diesel engine for the torque properties. This I-4 engine is a good engine! The turbo design is interesting. The 2 cyl mode is a bad thing also. No cylinder deactivation system has proven reliable. But since there are overrides or delete kits available. That is not a deal breaker. What I didn't like, was the transfer case. I have a couple of auto 4wd SUV's in my household. And only the Jeep system with the lever is really tough. The clutch system in my Ford Explorer has worked well. But the Explorer has limited ground clearance. So it sees limited off road adventures. I bought the Explorer for icy roads and snow. Which it has handled incredibly! The GM & Ram auto4wd systems don't have as good a feel.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
The 2022 I4... is now 430 lbs of torque which is almost as high as the Diesel
@blackmonarch_
Жыл бұрын
This is only good if you are only concerned with MPG. The longterm durability between a V8 and 4cyl is the real question and comparison. No, thank you; I will stick with my V8.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I don't disagree with you. I drive 30k miles a year so it matters to me
@blackmonarch_
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Are you just a commuter or are you in the trades? I was speaking in reference to the the truck as a tool, not as a commute vehicle.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@Black Monarch I own a construction business, and tow at max capacity (9600lbs) about once a week. If you are speaking of the vehicle strictly as a tool the 4 cyl is the only way to go. More than 2500$ cheaper initial purchase price and less fuel cost over time, while still towing more than most trades need. If you are concerned about longevity, most large businesses only keep vehicles 3-5 years. Me personally I will probably keep it until 100-150k miles. There are too many sensors and computers on vehicles these days to think "I'm going to keep this for 35 years and give it to my son". I can't imagine the cost of trying to do that. I trade mine in before 150k because they are usually still $25k trucks. Wait till over 200k and you are hard pressed to get 10-15k
@watchmanexpert
Жыл бұрын
I want buy one but I will wait few years to see the i4 reliability… with 150 k or more … for now I keep my 2010 Titan v8
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I feel like they will be the new 4cyl Toyota Tacomas everyone loves from back in the 80s
@kevinswanson3910
Жыл бұрын
At those speeds I get around 28 with my 3.0 diesel rst 4x4 21 year
@PlayWaves1
Жыл бұрын
Great vid. Chevy said the the 2.7T would get better mpg than what the sticker says and this proves that correct.
@motorcityspeed5855
Жыл бұрын
I’m interested in the cost of maintaining each long term. Can a 4cyl turbo tow or drive as long as a 5.3 and not require more maintenance? I have to imagine if you’re towing any amount of weight, you’ll be better off with a 5.3 than a 2.7T. Just like you’d be better off with a duramax than a 5.3
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
No way to know that for several years other than the 4cyl only takes 6 quarts of oil while the v8 takes 8 so slightly less on an oil change. One way to look at the longevity.... a V8 has 8 cylinders each with the bore, 2-3 rings, valves, valve seats, pistons, cam lobe, bearing, wrist pins, etc..... that's 8 cylinders and 8 chances of an imperfection during manufacture causing a catastrophic failure. On a 4 cylinder... there's only half the parts... and therefore half the chance of a catastrophic failure.... I truly believe 99% of engine have a catastrophic failure... the engine doesn't "wear out" wearing out would be running so long that the rings wear out and you actually loose compression. That is really rare. So I'm not really concerned about the load on the engine I think the support systems make the engine and we will see how they hold up
@henryjoshual1848
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Yeah, it has "half the parts" but those parts are working twice as hard. After 4 years of towing, the turbo will be fried, trust me on that one....
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@Henry Joshual so why do you think this turbo will be fried but not the turbos on diesels?
@kibaslife1699
Жыл бұрын
If you don’t have an iron foot the 5.3 will surprise you. I towed about 8k from SoCal to Phoenix averaging about 15-16 MPG
@Mike-vd2qt
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for feedback on the 8speed trans with the 4cyl. I owned the first year Colorado 2015, and the trans was a hot mess.
@jnmcs
Жыл бұрын
I've had my 2020 2.7 for just over 20k now and I will get another one when this lease is up. My mileage is not as good as yours but they've done a fair amount of tweaking sine the 1st year. Power is crazy when you think about the engine vs. the weight of the truck. I will admit that if I was buying, I'd still be concerned about longevity.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
What's the cost of a lease on these
@jnmcs
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Mine was $332/month for 36 months but that was at the start of covid and I had equity in my 2017 Colorado and made them trade it instead of just ending the lease. I will be doing that again in March hopefully. GM actually has $1750 in loyalty cash on these right now so deals are returning finally.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@@jnmcs nice, yeah it looks like you timed it good! Market slowdown should help the deals come back. So just so I'm clear, you do the lease for 36months, then you execute the purchase option.... because you owe less than the value... then you sell it back to them correct? I have heard a few people who do this and they say it works out really well. How much equity do you end up with?
@jnmcs
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 On the Colorado, I ended up with just under 2K. If there's no equity, I just let the lease run out and give it back. I've only ever purchased 1 lease, for my Dad. Hopefully I'll have some in my Silverado but used car prices are dropping fast. We'll see.
@luisrios8005
Жыл бұрын
The 4cyl have more rpm on the highway bc it comes with the 8 speed, the 5.3 have the 10 speed and that’s why it downshifts on the hill, looking for 9 or 8 gear when you already have it on the 4 Cyl and that’s why it didn’t down shit bc it was already on 8 gear
@davidthepainter2875
Жыл бұрын
Love the low tech analysis and how you didn’t waste my time. Thanks
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Ncogswell12345
Жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 Silverado 2.7 Custom and total mpg is 18.7 overall for 24000 miles.
@josephclemons4308
Жыл бұрын
I love the options if you want a fourbanger get yourself one but I like a v8 just don't complain if it ain't what you thought it was going to be
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
It certainly doesn't sound like a v8. Although it has a throaty tractor sound when it's loaded
@nateslifer9934
Жыл бұрын
Wow that’s good fuel economy on 2.7 4 cylinder
@ohiojeep101
Жыл бұрын
2021 crew cab 4 wheel drive I get 21 on whatever road I drive which makes me question the computer. Love the power of the 2.7 and with 33000 miles have had no issues.
@paisteplayer1040
Жыл бұрын
my 18 2.7 ecoboost supercab gets about 24 on the highway averaging above 70mph
@paulmcgraw8482
Ай бұрын
My wife drove mine to Myrtle Beach with the grandkids and her drive and she got over 30 miles a gallon
@jamesgardner395
Жыл бұрын
I have a 22 Silverado with the 2.7 turbo.. I get 18.5-20mpg locally.. I live in the poconos.. northeast pa.. when I travel to see family in Colorado and West Virginia, I get 24-27mpg..
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
25 + for long trips in a full size truck is great. Before this truck the best I ever got in a full size truck on a long trip was 21 and that was a v6.
@chrisferrell6159
Жыл бұрын
A trick. A ls engine will get up to 500000 miles. A ecotech will get up to 150.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
That's okay I'll probably sell by 150
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
The electronics will all be malfunctioning by the time it's 20 years old
@joeyvanmeter7728
Жыл бұрын
I won't have another chevy, cylinder deactivation is garbage, love my reliable Tundra
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I had a ram with it. 150k no issues.
@joeraptor1
Жыл бұрын
How is the 8 speed transmission on that 2.7? Did GM solve the issues that have plagued this transmission since its inception?
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Mine works perfect and has excellent programming for towing. Never any hunting for gears
@Dannysoutherner
Жыл бұрын
A 4 cylinder you have to drive it like you're mad all the time. It stays in rich. An 8 has a wider torque curve. Piss on that multiple displacement garbage tho. GM tried the 4 6 8 thing decades ago. People disabled it whenever they could. I prefer stick shift instead of the slush box. An 8 will be more reliable just because less stress on it.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting
@ChevyBM
Жыл бұрын
I bet the 4 cylinder turbo ia going to have more issues than the V8 and the second hand value is also going to be lower than the ones with V8's.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
let's say a 10 year old truck, how much more do you think the V8 will be worth
@jimmystevens3921
Жыл бұрын
I have a '21 chevy2.7 crew cab 2 wd. I only get 21 mpg on a good day. My commute is 200 miles a day. One of the sensors on the fuel went out and now I am down to 19 mpg. GM knows about the issue and has yet to issue a recall apparently it is a common issue. I asked the mechanic about the check engine light and he told me exactly what was wrong with it without putting it on the computer. All and all it has been a good truck this far, it has 94,000 miles on it and it still runs strong, but not as strong as the V8 or the 3.0i6.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I think you missed the upgraded power by 1 year
@occckid123
Жыл бұрын
All depends on how you drive and whats the amount of city/hwy or stop lights
@larryreigel2402
Жыл бұрын
I have two people in my county that had their turbos have to be replaced and they were 2022’s. I bought a 2022 Silverado 2500 crew cab and just put on 800 miles on it now and am averaging 24mpg in Montana and drive 80mph on the freeway and 70mph on the county roads
@sking2173
Жыл бұрын
I have a 1991 Mitsu, which I bought new, that has the original turbo. I’ll admit that I’ve used Mobil 1 for every oil change. As for your fuel mileage … you’re a liar …
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
1) I find it hard to believe you know 2 people with 2022 Silverados with the 4cyl engine. 2) even if your 2500 is a diesel.... it ain't getting 24 mpg at 80 mph. 3) your diesel engine also has a turbo, so it doesn't really make sense to say turbos are unreliable.
@sking2173
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 - Pickups push a lot of wind, but even so, it must be said that the little 3.0 diesel in the 1500 gets some excellent fuel mileage. Love ‘em !!
@TheWhitetailrancher
Жыл бұрын
Ummmm, downshifting increases rpms, it doesn't help keep them lower genius
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I think you are missing the point "genius". The V8 can't maintain the set speed without dropping a gear while the 4 cylinder is able to hold the speed without needing to drop a gear. In other words, the 4 cyl has more low end power than the V8.
@deanriver9388
Жыл бұрын
Who is asking for a four cylinder diesel anyways?
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Who's got a 4 cyl diesel?
@ALEXdaG
Жыл бұрын
4 cylinder and truck should never be in the same sentence. These emissions laws are ruining combustion engines
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
It's a big 4 cyl tho...
@joshuak8607
Жыл бұрын
The 3.0 duramax gets 24 to 35 mpg
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Expensive motor and expensive fuel though
@sking2173
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 - I choose the diesel … Love it !!
@BloodiedYetUnbowed
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Is it really an expensive motor? It was like 1500 more than the 5.3 V8. That's nothing.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@BloodiedYetUnbowed 1500 more than the v8... and the v8 is 2500 more than the i4 turbo.... then you have to use fuel that is much more expensive which negates the gas mileage improvement. So yes it cost a lot more upfront and over time.
@luisrios8005
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736bro but is going to last 5 times more than that 4 cyl 😂, so you will be buying 4 engines when in your diesel you will have the same engine
@derekgilbert2884
Жыл бұрын
If want a chevrolet vega get 2.7 engine part gm worst engines ever made such as 4,6,8 v engine late 70's and early 80's, 305 engine, Northstar don't forget oldsmobile v8 diesel. Gm trying sale 2.7 engine since came on market in 2018 still it fail repeatedly and today gm sale these chevrolet vega 2.7 engine chevrolet silverado very sad.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I doubt it's the same motor from the 70s
@sammysneed6679
Жыл бұрын
Feel bad for those who buy a 4 cylinder full size pick up. After warranty it’s gonna get expensive. They sound like junk brand new rattling , clicking , and clanking , just think when the new wears off. The fed gov is forcing the auto industry to produce cars we are not ready to produce.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
It does sound weird
@caseyhardan9053
Жыл бұрын
The shifting on the hill is a function of gearing And mileage should always be hand calculated The eight speed transmission that comes with the four-cylinder is very problematic ask any GM technician.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I like my 8 speed so far, I've heard of a lot of issues with the 2021 version. Maybe they made some changes for 2022 and up
@tuffr2
Жыл бұрын
That turbo 4 cyl. engine is not too shabby.
@stephenbivin1968
Жыл бұрын
I had a salesman try to sell me on the small 4 cylinder "it has the same power". Look at it this way; if you have a 10lb package that goes on a 6 foot shelf who has to work harder to get it there the 6 foot guy or the 3 foot guy? They are both doing the same amount of "work", but the smaller guy has to work harder to do the same amount of work. In a truck, give me a large V8 any day, unless its a highway queen.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I see your point.. but if the small motor and the large motor both make the same power.. and it takes "X" amount of power to move the truck. Then they are both loaded equally.
@stephenbivin1968
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 yeah but that four cylinder has to work harder to create the same power as the V8. Granted you usually dont have the balancing issues you can get in a V8. Its just my opinion that if your buying a truck to use as a truck you will pull the guts out of a 4 banger alot faster than you will a V8.
@crspcritter
Жыл бұрын
Yup ; got 22 mpg coming home last night will my crew cab 5.3 4x4. Had to listen to the Chevy commercial with the sick 4cyl sound on the radio. Translation: epa mpg push -
@user-tb7rn1il3q
Жыл бұрын
GM needs a 5.4 liter turbo V8. Basically two 2.7t engines. Imagine the power and torque.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Holy crapballs I like that idea. 620 hp, 860ft lbs of torque.
@davidzavala337
Жыл бұрын
That would too cool, so no.
@mikecarmean1676
11 ай бұрын
Finally got a chance to drive one of these. I was super excited going into it based on all the reviews. I have to say though I was a bit disappointed. I thought it would feel stronger than it did and overall I felt like the drivetrain was not super smooth and yes the sound is a very odd haha. Still incredibly impressive for a 4-cylinder turbo! Just thought I would like it more. I do feel like it would do much better with the 10 speed that transmission is so incredibly smooth!
@bigcartoonyIIV
Жыл бұрын
25mpg is great. My 4.3 only get around 20. so you think the 2.7 will tow a mini skid steer? or mini excavator? Im planning on getting a new truck, and I was torn between the 5,3 and 2,7. I test drove a 2.7 gmc, and that thing felt great compated to my 195hp v6. I love the turbo jetsons mobile sound
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I'm going to post a video towing my tractor within the next 2 weeks, between the trailer, my tractor and my attachments I'm right about 9000lbs. The max rating is 9600lbs so if you're running a 10k rated trailer I'd go for it. Mine tows the tractor just fine.
@sking2173
Жыл бұрын
I really liked that 4.3, but it doesn’t compare to these newer engines as far as fuel mileage goes. I sold my last 4.3 truck back in 2011, and I’ll bet it’s probably still providing good service. That was one of GM’s success stories …
@lc6785
Жыл бұрын
@@sking2173 I still have my 1994 sierra with the 4.3 that has 389,000 miles on the original engine and transmission with no major issues.
@samusaran7317
Жыл бұрын
@@lc6785 So much money wasted assuming you're the original owner.
@lc6785
Жыл бұрын
@@samusaran7317 How have I wasted money by keeping my 1994 that I bought new?
@scottyellis3442
Жыл бұрын
Personal I'd never buy a full size truck with a 4 cylinder, I have had a 1500 Chevy with the 5.3 engine kelped the oil changed every 5000 miles "full synthetic" & 120,000 miles number 7 cylinder went out, so I'll never own another Shitolet.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Yeah sadly everything fails eventually.
@Nothingtoya
Жыл бұрын
I have a 2007 Chevy Trailblazer with the 5.3. It has made it to 230,000 miles but that's certainly not because it wanted too. It started burning and leaking oil at 150,000 miles. At the moment, I simply change the oil filter every 5000 miles because you have to add 4 quarts of oil every 100 miles. The bushings in the front end have needed to be replaced every 50k miles and the window motors constantly fail.
@scottyellis3442
Жыл бұрын
@@Nothingtoya my buddy has a 2007 Avalanche & his oil consumption is the same as yours.
@larcelmer
Жыл бұрын
So to lease a truck that you don't tow much or at all this could be a good truck to lease. Nice video.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I tow 9,000 lbs about once a week and a smaller 3500lbs once a week as well.
@sking2173
Жыл бұрын
The Silverado/Sierra is my favorite 1500 truck … but I prefer the 3.0 diesel. It’s worth the premium …
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I think with diesel prices being so high its a wash
@centralvalleyamerican8085
Жыл бұрын
@Build Something Stupid true. My 3.0 gets 31.9 on the highway consistently. That with the added power, still a great option
@sking2173
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 - Yeah, but the diesel’s performance is nice. And the range is easily over 600 miles - even the 4-WD. This is a great little engine !!
@michaelbogdon2632
Жыл бұрын
I also rather the 3.0
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelbogdon2632 what's interesting is that people are saying "the V8 is better" or "the diesel is better" and the thing is that the 4cyl has more HP than the Diesel and more Torque than the V8 lol
@Synic08
Жыл бұрын
My boss has the turbo 4.... i’d still take the 5.3 any day... i think the 5.3 will outlast 3 of the turbo 4...
@Synic08
Жыл бұрын
Now try it with the AFM deleted on the v8... or disabled even..
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Maybe they have head/lifter problems
@ComfyDadShoes
Жыл бұрын
That’s a good sales pitch for the 4cyl. My 5.3 in my 14” gets about 19-21 depending on tires and who’s driving.
@mrktm65sx
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this helpful video! I'm thinking of a truck as a daily driver and dirt bike hauler, but would like something that won't cost a fortune at the pump. Good to know the 2.7L turbo is powerful "enough" for real life and gets good mileage.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I can't speak to longevity of course because they are new motors but it is a great daily driver and really good gas mileage for a truck.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
The towing video will post this week. I'll be pulling 9200lbs
@patrickbriggs1883
Жыл бұрын
Cool man. I love the idea of a truck getting reasonable mileage. I use my truck for nothing but cruising around so big tow numbers aren’t a huge deal to me. The Chevy 2.7 motor has always been intriguing to me and I’m glad to see mid 20’s is possible for mileage.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
It's a great motor. Going 75-80 I get 25mpg on long trips and I had a long drive thru a 55 mph speed limit area once and I got 27.4 mpg for the whole trip. I'm very pleased with it. And like you said. Most people most of the time are not towing anything
@rdsii64
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 This motor is ok for people who tow with a half ton truck as well. This motor makes over 400 pound feet of torque. That is enough to tow anything you can SAFELY tow with a half ton truck. People forget that once you factor in suspension, tires, and tongue weight, the tow numbers for this 2.7L and the big 6.2L V8 are closer than people think. To further illustrate this, the big 7.3 liter Godzilla motor in a Ford F250 makes 475 pound feet of torque compared to the chevy 2.7L's 420 but can tow 15K pounds because its set up properly for towing heavy. I'm a ford guy and my F150 has the 2.7L ecoboost and its amazing. With that said, this chevy 2.7L turbo is genius. Trucks and turbos go together like peanut butter and jelly.
@backwoodstherapy
Жыл бұрын
@@rdsii64 people also tend to think they need more truck than they do for towing. I've seen guys be all "well I tow a lot with my truck so I need the bigger engine" and it's like "what do you tow?" and they're usually like "mostly just my bass boat, but occasionally I'll tow a lawn mower." Ok bro. Just say you're emasculated by a 4 cylinder engine. It's ok.
@RFRUS
Жыл бұрын
I'm recently retired and decided to buy a turbo four as I haven't ever had a turbo. My previous truck (waiting to clean up and sell on my own is an 07 5.3L). I'm loving this little four as the mileage for a brand new truck is running around 20 and my old chevy never did better than 18 on a long trip. The fact that the cowboys here in Oregon won't touch a four cylinder added to a HUGE discount on the truck too.
@davebasey9863
Жыл бұрын
The 2.7 has 8 speed, automatic ninth gear and tent gear, overdrive’s, I believe with the 3.42 . V8 has a 10 speed with three overdrive gears. 7-9-10
@donjohnson2428
Жыл бұрын
Might have missed you say this in the video, but were both of these trucks RWD or 4x4? Edit: Nevermind just saw your description that says both 4x4
@Blackdawn80
Жыл бұрын
The 2.7L Turbo is mated to a GM built 8-speed gearbox while the 5.3 NA runs through a 10-speed co-engineered w/Ford. It is widely used by both brands in their RWD platforms. Due to programming, efficiency is always a priority and given enough gear ratios, the optimal is not always the tallest. Great review though, I find the 2.7 (the largest 4cylinder still in production) is an amazing product as it provides more torque than the larger V8 and still beats out Ford's smaller V6 EcoBoost option on their F150.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
It's pretty amazing so far fingers crossed on decent longevity
@rdsii64
Жыл бұрын
The 2.7L ecoboost makes more horsepower but less torque. I get high 20's on the highway with mine. I suspect the Chevy turbo4 is in the same ball park, if not a little more efficient. I have never owned a chevy truck. What I can tell you is after owning a 2.7L Ecoboost powered F150, I will never go back to an N/A V8 regardless of the name plate. Big V8's leave to much efficiency on the table. Whether you like Ford, Chevy Dodge or who ever, trucks and turbos go together like peanut butter and jelly.
@davidzavala337
Жыл бұрын
@rdsii64 yeah, you can't deny the sweet sound of a V8, that's what's keeping me form a 4 cyl that's sound bad.
@thomasnew8606
Жыл бұрын
So our 2007 Tahoe with the 5.3 engine and a 4speed! Transmission gets the same or better fuel mileage than a new vehicle with the same size 5.3 motor and a 10speed Transmission???
@justinwalker6245
Жыл бұрын
Let us know how you feel about it when theirs 150,000 miles on it their might be some different opinions but I don't think it will hold up near as well as the 5.3
@mikeriv60
Жыл бұрын
5.3 is a POG engine.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Will do
@Hector.Amezquita
3 ай бұрын
Why people watch the video and not subscribe to this great channel, good info brother, thank you !!!
@RuhRoh-z9l
Жыл бұрын
I like your review on the 2.7L I think the mileage is accurate as stated i’m not worried about a mile or two difference. I’m not worry about longevity. I’ll spin it off as a trade after 30-40K miles buy the 3.0l diesel. I have 5.3L in my suburban and that is definitely a lousy a engine tranny set up for towing, it too has to down shift to hump hills when not towing. 13-15 mpg highway and in town driving. Un decided which one I will purchase first 2.7 or 3.0 diesel.
@thomasmcghee2468
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review I’m really tempted to give the 2.7 a shot, I just wish there was more data about one term reliability but the engine is too new to have a sufficient data base of vehicles with 100k plus miles and over
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Very true! Time will tell. So far I do really like it tho. I just drove 40 miles round trip to taco bell and including idling in the drive thru got 26mpg.
@kc8653
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention the potential for added power having an engine already designed for a turbo. Couple modification an a tune could probably yield more power an torque
@jeffreytalbot3431
Жыл бұрын
This motor has been out long enough for high mileage. Look it up and you will find many at 100,000 plus miles zero issues. Obviously they are mass produced, error or bad build is a possibility. This engine was designed for the 1/2 ton truck and for turbos. My only question is the active fuel management system. I have heard horror stories on 5.3L, wouldn’t the same issues appear in the 2.7L ? I have a 18 F-150 with 2.7L v-6 and I absolutely love it. Best vehicles I have ever owned. Peace
@chrisgolding1259
Жыл бұрын
30k no issues. drive the piss out of it, 20.5 avg up to 24mpg sometimes in summer heat.
@thomasmcghee2468
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisgolding1259 thanks for sharing I’m going to test drive one next weekend
@douglasbrooker5834
Жыл бұрын
Both of your videos about the these trucks are great.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Noslime
Жыл бұрын
Just wait till that turbo engine get some age and a little abuse on it. It won’t last I can promise you.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
So turbo diesel is good but turbo gas is bad?
@davidparisi4980
Жыл бұрын
It's been noted before that a lot of times when towing/hauling the smaller engines 4 and 6's will get noticeably less gas mileage while the change in gas mileage for the 8's will drop but not as much as the smaller engines.Also wonder how these would fair plowing snow,albeit you should use a 3/4 and up to plow,,,many use to use a 1/2 with no problems,especially for just home use.
@JamesMosley-z7g
9 ай бұрын
Does this 2.7 turbo engine use regular 87octane or higher octane gas
@davefreeman1499
9 ай бұрын
It uses 87.
@danbablinskas1503
Жыл бұрын
Great comparison. Good to see it's getting the EPA average. I'm considering this but have the usual reliability concerns.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
New vehicles are always a guess
@markman7
Жыл бұрын
This engine was designed from the ground up to be a robust truck 4 cylinder. I would have no problem owning one, but my towing requirements are at 10k probably 5-8k miles per year. I opted for the 3.0 LM2 with max tow in my 2022.5 Silverado with no regrets.
@shawnh199lh
Жыл бұрын
There is no replacement for displacement. 5.3 or nothing
@guardrail2897
Жыл бұрын
25mpg😂😂😂. My friend has one with the 2.7 4 cyl. He just went to Tennessee and back. He said he only got 18mpg. He wished he had gotten the 6.2 instead of the 4cyl. But he was promised by the salesman that the 2.7 was better on gas.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Somethings wrong with his then lol
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Maybe his turbo is out
@guardrail2897
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 It's only 8 months old. I can't imagine it's the turbo. Hell, he don't even speed with it. He's one of those that runs the speed limit on the dot.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@@guardrail2897 that's crazy I get 25mpg with 6 people in the truck on long drives.
@martinfarrell5778
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review...
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
No problem
@ThomperBeThompin
Жыл бұрын
Great comparison
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Derham43
Жыл бұрын
I would like to see mileage results from the 2.7 at highway speeds of say 75 to 78 mph. This is where I am constantly passed by darn near everything on the road from tiny compacts to semi's. Driving in this mode is really keeping with the flow of traffic on Interstates 10, 20, 30, and 40 in Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas etc. I currently get 21 to 22 from a 3.6 Chevy Colorado. When I get 23, I am ecstatic!
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
I did a 4 hour trip on 95 @ 70-75mph and got 25mpg
@Derham43
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Super outstanding. Been looking to upgrade to a larger truck (don't need a V8) but they're not giving these things away. (Lol)
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@Derham43 they should be getting some decent deals soon, probably end of summer this year the market is slowing. I found a good deal for mine, and figured if I waited 2 years for the market to cool down I'd end up paying more because of inflation
@Derham43
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 Something to really consider. Thanks and great Vid by the way.
@brendanmcgallagher203
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I got 25 in my Sierra going a 4 hour trip with mostly highways
@Truckguy2007
Жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 with the 4.3 V6. I just took a 500 mile trip. I got 23 MPG.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Nice what's the hp and torque on those?
@Truckguy2007
Жыл бұрын
@@buildsomethingstupid1736 285HP and 260F P torque
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@Michael Dugay that's not bad, these have 310 hp and 430 torque if you ever want to upgrade
@merlinjust4753
Жыл бұрын
I get 20/22 mpg with my 2020 1500.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
The V8?
@petepete3389
Жыл бұрын
Talk to me in 50,000 miles. You will be sorry.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Ok 10k so far
@jacksmiththeboss
Жыл бұрын
Do not buy any full size truck with a 4 cylinder. Also don't get one with a V6 unless it's diesel. You will regret it.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Why not
@JIPlatium
Жыл бұрын
I would agree with Build Something Stupid, why not? People are so hell bent on v8, but it depends on the use case. Buying an HD and never towing more then 10k, means you wasted your money. I'm a Tundra owner, my V6 out tows GMC/Chevy in it's class, has more HP and torque. I didn't need an HD truck and for what I'm using it for, you could convince me a V8 would be a better choice. People hate turbos, but they are in a ton of vehicles that have longevity. Most car issues come back to how the owner cares for their vehicle. Sure there are recalls, but longevity comes from proper maintenance.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
@JI Platinum exactly, it's rare an engine "wears out" its pretty much always a support system that fails, which is just as likely on a v8 as a 4cyl.
@raylaux8295
Жыл бұрын
Complete nonsense.
@Walkercolt1
Жыл бұрын
Reliability is the GM question. GM in the US ,Australia, and South America has a TERRIBLE history with their turbos beginning with the 1956 Buick Le Mans (anyone else remember THAT PRETTY, aluminum engined V-6 disaster???) whether using their own turbos, Bendix, Whittle or someone else's they purchased. I sincerely doubt a 2.7L I-4 in a truck will last and perform for 50K KILOMETERS properly, since they aren't warranted for that! (30K Km or X hours of boosted operation and like the Ford's you'll get the boosted HOURS LONG before the mileage). The Cadillac Turbos are so buggy they have NO re-sale value (look it up yourself). Buick has gone to Horst screw superchargers on most of their SUV's this year to stop the warranty bleeding they have.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
These are warrantied for 100k miles. I'll have 50k kilometers next year.
@norm379
Жыл бұрын
5.3 A GM JOKE..
@Stephen_567
Жыл бұрын
There is no replacement for displacement.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Except forced induction, which is literally a replacement for displacement.
@clay1883
Жыл бұрын
Not sure where you are going stating that "The V-8 has to downshift more on the hills.....I assume to keep the RPM's lower". If it's downshifting, the RPM's are higher not lower. Not conducive to better MPG's.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
When driving on the hwy the trans goes into the top gear, when a small incline is present in the road the transmission will shift down into a lower gear if it does not have the power to climb the hill in top gear, causing the RPMs to increase giving the engine more power. This happens more with the V8 than the 4cyl due to the large torque advantage of the 4 cyl.
@Dying_Breed.300
Жыл бұрын
What would be better? This 2.7 or 5.3 or 6.2 with a 10 speed or 8 speed, I’m looking to lift my 1500 10” and put 40” tires my buddy had the 8 speed transmission and says it lugged he also has the 10” lift with 37” what’s your thoughts. Thank u great videos
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Me personally I'd like to do a 2.7 lifted with 40s just because people would lose their mind about it being a 4 cyl. If you re geared it would be an awesome turbo whistlin monster
@tedtolentino4955
Жыл бұрын
I'm of the opinion that the debate as to which engine platform, v-8 vs turbocharged I-4 is better, will continue for quite some time, because for many, bigger is better is ingrained in our mind's history. But allow me to add my anecdotal experience, granted that I am talking about a small (2.0 L), turbocharged 4-cylnder SUV. I drove a 2018 VW Tiguan with just over 50K on the odometer 1400 mi in Summer, towing a 800 lb, enclosed U-haul trailer. Typically I average about 35 mpg unloaded in this SUV on the highway. It's not very aerodynamic, and even less so with the trailer I was pulling. I maintained a steady 65 mph during this particular trip, averaging 27-28 mpg. I could merge with highway traffic without a problem, even maintaining a speed of 65 mph climbing Cajon pass in the San Bernardino mountains. The curb weight of the SUV is 3800 lbs. I was pleasantly surprised by the performance of this small 4-cylinder engine.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Yeah "better" is a tricky word. Which one makes the most power with the least fuel and lowest manufacturing cost? The turbo 4. Which one sounds better and gives bragging rights? The v8
@LinusScrubTips
Жыл бұрын
Omg that cluster is ugly. Anyways if you want a good truck GM that will last, just go buy a GMT400 or GMT800. The proof is in the pudding. Plenty of these trucks with 300k-500k and still going.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
What, no way
@johnconvry3065
7 ай бұрын
What exhaust system do you put on your two point seven leaders
@markjou9799
Жыл бұрын
They should put the 2.7 in all of their vehicles.
@Skunked68
Жыл бұрын
I wonder about how long do the ultra-high rpm turbochargers last after warranty is off and expensive out of pocket replacement cost ?? Long ago I had a turbo-diesel VW that easily averaged 48 mpg’s, and got rid of it just before factory warranty expired. In those days, diesel VW’s were in high demand, like a cult following, it had the least depreciation I’ve ever had in a vehicle. The diesel could set outside all night at 18 below and still start.
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Who knows? I tend to think of turbos as 100k should at least be the life, 150k you can't really be mad it broke and 200k it lasted great.
@Rainy_Day12234
Жыл бұрын
The life span won’t be nearly the same
@buildsomethingstupid1736
Жыл бұрын
Do you feel that way about turbo diesels or only turbo gas?
@pnowikow
Жыл бұрын
Cheaper to buy the 4 cylinder, gets better gas mileage it seems to have a better ride quality. I don't know that there's much to argue about. Sounds like just a technology improvement that everybody should embrace and say goodbye to the V8. I have a 2014 5.3 l and in the city the best I get about 16 on the highway if I really baby it I might get 22 but that's doing like 60 to 65 mph
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