It’s crazy how people can become so laser focused on a goal that they start to bend all of their own rules that they have for everyone else when it comes to themselves. It was odd listening to mike saying all of the things that he screwed up during his prep because I’ve seen so many of his videos where he literally gives the exact opposite advice. Obviously we’re all guilty of doing this at some point; ignoring our better judgement and thinking doing more is better. Hopefully his and Jared’s next preps are better after learning some lessons this go around
@Bd-ox4mi
Жыл бұрын
It’s how we progress in life ..mistakes
@WolfLifts
Жыл бұрын
I'm just laser focused on this thumbnail 😂
@TRIIXTEH
Жыл бұрын
When your calories are that low your brain plays some nasty tricks
@Damian_Materowski
Жыл бұрын
This is why everyone should have prep coach, because we can't be objective with judging ourselves and when you add hunger you start to do really stupid things
@JrobAlmighty
Жыл бұрын
Very apt and so easy to fall into
@MercilessBreed
Жыл бұрын
Damn that was a wake up call. If even a smart, mega jacked and objectively scary guy like Dr. Mike can doubt himself and have all those feelings, then its a perfectly human experience. I appreciate him being so open, honest and vulnerable. Amazing man.
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear this - Steve
@jeremysmeltz3915
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the transparency and vulnerability in this. It's so hard to be objective with ourselves. Thanks for sharing Mike!
@tomwaitsfornoone1182
Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for the return of the almighty Israetel! looking forward to this one.
@kimdecker8901
Жыл бұрын
Dr. Mike is such a sage. I'm not even a bodybuilder--in fact, I have a confession to make: I'm a runner. And I have a tough race coming up. Dr. Mike's advice is so universal, and so sound, though, that I'm keeping it in my pocket should my race not turn out as planned. Whether I'll need it or not, he's giving me a roadmap for bouncing back smarter, and I thank him for it. You, too, Steve! Love what you guys do!🤗🦾
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
Gotta pace yourself eh! Thanks for tuning in! - Steve
@kimdecker8901
Жыл бұрын
@@ReviveStronger Word!🙌
@andrewmueller9986
8 ай бұрын
He's a scientist yes but a sage? No. His wisdom level is at best mid
@SeuOu
7 ай бұрын
@@andrewmueller9986 lol bro
@Jimmy29li
Жыл бұрын
It's hard for me to fathom someone who is so well versed, probably more than anyone in the fitness industry, to make such a monumental mistake. Doesn't make sense. Why would you need that much of a crazy deficit for such a long time. Weird. I appreciate his honesty and we all mess up.
@SeuOu
7 ай бұрын
I think this is a Top 10 for Revive Stronger episodes. Just the depth of information, experience, reflection on mistakes, humanity.
@CarMad97ci
Жыл бұрын
Fuck it takes a strong minded individual to openly and transparently reveal the mistakes you made, especially on something as meaningful and personal as this. I loved the comedy Mike, but I’m also greatly enjoying the psychological lessons (for lack of a better word) Dr Mike is handing out here.
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. - Steve
@musclemedicine_M.D
11 ай бұрын
It’s impossible to hate Dr. Mike, your options are indifference, Like or love.
@petebullard5982
Жыл бұрын
Always speaks so well, great listen.
@ReviveStronger
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for listening. - Steve
@simplybaker.
Жыл бұрын
People here confused that a person made a mistake? Yeah hes Dr Mike, but hes also a human, he made a mistake, has learned from it and is improving. It happens and hes doing what he should
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
100% - Steve
@punkandlifting
Жыл бұрын
I have the same mentality. I did my first show at 39 years old in august of 2022. I was so laser focused on being shredded out of my mind that i couldn't mentally grasp allowing myself a refeed day or two here and there until I just had to because my fatigue was so high and i was going hypoglycemic because food was so low. Ive learned so much since that i cant wait to prep in 2025 with some different strategies.
@GVS
Жыл бұрын
Related to this one a lot. It's tough putting yourself out there on social media. Even those trying to be helpful just often...aren't. I think I can count on one hand the number of times I've gotten an actually useful comment. Often they're things you thought of and tried already or just so simplistic that's it's almost insulting. Oh, so I should focus on pullups to develop my back? Thanks so much. Let me research this new exercise, I'm excited to get started. I don't give unsolicited advice. Seeing a tiny snapshot of the reality of someone's training just isn't enough to really provide feedback. Unless asked, I think it's best to probably just not give criticism because the odds of it actually being insightful and useful is incredibly low. Then, of course, are the actual haters, which are in some ways easier to deal with!
@MirNovichok
Жыл бұрын
"I think it's best to probably just not give criticism" Most content creators have dabbled a lot in that genre of videos, including Israetel so it's a big difficult to really abide by that. Obviously, it'd be better if everyone was more measured in their criticism. Mike's diet and training going wrong has been signalled by many well-credentialed people for quite some time now, including IFBB pros and Lyle McDonald.
@George-Aguilar
Жыл бұрын
Mike, I am learning massively from your “perceived failure”. Your living the dream. Enjoy the process! Luv ya bro!
@paymon11
Жыл бұрын
I almost can’t believe I just went through exactly this situation with almost 100% accuracy, it’s as if you are mocking me.. Thank You so much Dr. Mike.
@thundersleycleaningco.6621
Жыл бұрын
I competed naturally for seven years (
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
Just need to find an energy deficit that works for you right! - Steve
@justvibing2497
Жыл бұрын
You just did too much cardio and two cardio needed for your heart. Don't be dumb mate
@DarkoFitCoach
Жыл бұрын
I effed myself up bigtime on this subject: i trained all out for weeks and months and years i kid you not and never done a deload or easy or off week. Never. Dear lord the stupidity is immense. Now reaping the results (epic overtraining) I am bodybuilding for past 23yrs and i still cant believe my stupidity. Its like being awoken from the matrix and looking back in. Its surreal
@Madchris8828
Жыл бұрын
I think it depends on what you are training to failure. And technical failure on compounds is taxing as hell. But I don't think most sane rational bodybuilders would say training compound exercises to failure all the time is a smart idea or worth it. I one time deadlifted till I couldn't anymore and was basically crippled for a week 😂
@DarkoFitCoach
Жыл бұрын
@@Madchris8828 oh no. I went all out on every set every exercise and every rep. Deeep deficit. Fats at 15gr a day (yes u read that right). Cardio 7x a week for an hour walking. And deloads to drop fatigue u ask or recovery weeks? ZERO. Never did any. Trust me all this at 41 = atomic bomb for body and mind
@suhwateezea.214
Жыл бұрын
So what happened?
@DarkoFitCoach
Жыл бұрын
@@suhwateezea.214 epic overtraining syndrome
@George-Aguilar
Жыл бұрын
Been their too bro! Friends couldn’t understand why I was always “wasted”. Could never be consistent. Just learning the lessons.
@one_of_atl_metros_finest
Жыл бұрын
These guys together is always a pleasure 🎉for me! It’s a been awhile I’ve been watching this channel since about 🤔 2016 baby whooo! 🙀hoooo
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for always tuning in! - Steve
@KootBear
5 ай бұрын
this is one of the best episodes!
@jeffsonnichsen1619
6 ай бұрын
very honest self reflection and its appreciated , you insight and experience has helped me since day one of watching you. THANK YOU
@massivemikeh
Жыл бұрын
Come on Mike, theres no surprise that over dieting causes extreme stress/fatigue and leads to muscle loss and water issues etc. This is Contest Prep101.
@cain6981
Жыл бұрын
Great stuff, appreciate the honesty and humility from Mike. Very meaningful and inspring
@ReviveStronger
11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! - Steve
@deanc5685
Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Steve and Mike! Learned a lot from this episode.
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it! - Steve
@Madchris8828
Жыл бұрын
From my experience I see no problem with training to failure on isolation exercises, but on compounds you've got to be more careful. And honestly compound exercises on machines are the only smart idea for technical failure. I don't think everyone can handle training to failure the same
@wrxdrunkie
Жыл бұрын
.75% bodyweight per week of fat loss has been shown as an upper limit for fat loss rate for most athletic individuals. You would want to lower that to .5% of BW when you are really lean. If your fat you can get away with more. Beyond that you are usually just losing muscle. You can't rush fat loss
@svarthar
Жыл бұрын
Source?
@wrxdrunkie
Жыл бұрын
Garthe 2011 Murphy 2018. Won't let me post links
@raygengamer8440
Жыл бұрын
Stimulus to fatigue ratio. I used to think to myself. Ehh I'll just lift heavy and if I can't do it it's because I'm too lazy
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
Works for a time, then it doesn't. - Steve
@richardtrass
Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this one on my commutes this week!!!
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it! - Steve
@richardtrass
Жыл бұрын
@@ReviveStronger I did indeed thank you both
@samueldahl9790
Жыл бұрын
Was gonna ask when Mike is comming back. Sweet!
@canceresbunny
Жыл бұрын
Mike is really cool. And he'll figure the prep stuff out sooner or later.
@reniscen
Жыл бұрын
Thumbnail 💯
@devil5hlygrim972
Жыл бұрын
I want to print that thumbnail and tape it to peoples bathroom windows, facing inward..
@Plumjabiiiify
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload steve!
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
You got it! - Steve
@thraxdownff
Жыл бұрын
The last thing you want to do is leave something on the table because you didn't go hard enough. Tough thing to balance and easy to see how you can go too hard
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
100% - Steve
@lukeluke5210
Жыл бұрын
At no point in my life have I thought I needed to spend almost two hours on fatigue management and impact. Well by Jove was I wrong, great insightful video especially interesting hearing how Peds impact the process.
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in - Steve
@suppersday
Жыл бұрын
Love Dr. Mike, one of my dreams would be to do a lifting session with him - would be truly humbling, and terrifying
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
If you're ever in London we do yearly events! - Steve
@emmang2010
Жыл бұрын
Like for the humility that Dr. Mike is displaying in this right now!
@danlee9049
Жыл бұрын
Dr Mike equals automatic thumbs up
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
100% - Steve
@saiko8892
9 ай бұрын
Very interesting how people think classic is just for people who can’t get big, dr Mike is literally saying here that by the time certain people try to make a weight cap for classic they are too small/depleted for it! It has its own division for a reason and has a different set of genetic components
@erikarnold4737
Жыл бұрын
Dr Mike is so tough. It's like he went so extreme in some ways that he kind of hamstringed himself a bit. I know he's newer to acutal physique bodybuilding and comes from more like powerlifting. It will be interesting to see what an intelligent and tough guy can figure out in the future for this type of stuff.
@andrewmueller9986
8 ай бұрын
He just overcomplicates things
@Michael20089
Жыл бұрын
I like steve hall and Dr Mike
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
And we like you - Steve
@JuliusCaesar103
Жыл бұрын
1:14:50 Mike is so nice, he even gives Incels some respect lmao 1:16:20 dying squirrel is the funniest thing I've heard. Dr. Mike is a fucking gem
@LarryShipeWorld
Жыл бұрын
Loved this whole interview. Watched it 2x!
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
Hell yea! - Steve
@shrimpanzee001
Жыл бұрын
Mike keeps the psychological side of this game realer than everyone. Close second would be Steve and Pascal.
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
Love his honesty! - Steve
@MrStreetninja007
Жыл бұрын
Literally just did the same as mike to high a deficit lost muscle stayed flat and weighed less then last cut and looked worse lol lesson learned
@vicvin64
Жыл бұрын
How is this story even a thing? Lol I've heard Mike preaching for the last 5 years about slowly easing into a cut and not dropping calories too much unless it's a mini cut to slingshot hunger into a bulk and doing maintenance calorie deload weeks etc so none of this makes any sense lol.
@Guyfr0mcr0wd
Жыл бұрын
it's easy to say what's optimal in theory. actually doing it mid prep when your hormones are out of whack and emotion is involved is a whole other thing.
@vicvin64
Жыл бұрын
@@Guyfr0mcr0wd good point. I imagine getting close to a show and feeling you're far off can be motivating to deviate from the plan.
@tomwaitsfornoone1182
Жыл бұрын
Mike can offer that advice to us, but who's there mediating for him? I guess its broderick but even he has his reservations in dictating to mike about nutrition due to his PHD, he's said it himself on this channel, but thats what mike needs evidently.
@AlanCarson726
Жыл бұрын
Awesome episode, guys! I'd love you to have Jackson Peos on with Mike. I know you had him on with you a while back, Steve.
@classicalmusic1337
Жыл бұрын
Why'd you take less gear during prep??? I know you've said gear doesn't interest you very much, but this is gear 101.
@snakebatch4527
10 ай бұрын
Positive vibes
@watsonkushmaster3067
Жыл бұрын
Its interestig to compare this to john jewetts recent show where everything went as well as it could...interesting part imo is that they are both very analytical and dedicated in their process but still came out with such a different outcome
@Madchris8828
Жыл бұрын
Lol Mike's impression of the internet in general is great. Jimbobs magazine 😂😂
@CoachValentin
Жыл бұрын
Great conversation 👏🏻
@devil5hlygrim972
Жыл бұрын
It’s not arrogant if you can back it up Mikey boy, that’s why I love ya!
@shimmy885
Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤
@PeterRSCFF
2 ай бұрын
What does “get flat” mean? When he says you have to get flat to know you are in deficit on gear. How can you tell you are “flat”? Is it a look or a feeling or both?
@Damian_Materowski
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad Kuba Cieleń gets more and more credits in top BBing world as he's this modern comination of hard core heavy lifter and science nerd at once. And...his fellow Polish 😊
@one_of_atl_metros_finest
Жыл бұрын
My goodness,anybody cutting atm 😆I bulked a little too long this past winter 🥶 just hangin on here for the last few 10-15 ish lbs!
@azulsimmons1040
Жыл бұрын
If I were a Hollywood Trainer and Mike critiqued me, I would cry and then wipe my tears away with the money I earn from wealthy celebs.
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
lol! - Steve
@dermotshaw6775
Жыл бұрын
The big take away from this was do more gear 😂
@pimpleonureye
Жыл бұрын
Nice HxH shirt. Have you seen Baki? Watching it doubles your test overnight.
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
I sure have, it's epic! - Steve
@Burkhimself
Жыл бұрын
What is considered the most accurate body fat check ? 7 positions with calipers or ?
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
Yeah buddy! - Steve
@gorilladigits8223
Жыл бұрын
Lol, I recently gave someone unsolicited advice by telling them they should stop doing hip thrusts and replace them with good mornings/ hip hinge exercises
@tuukkalaitinen813
Жыл бұрын
I think Mike Isratel is genius. But what I do not get is, he always talks about RIR stuff and not-failure, yet all the training videos RP puts out, is about torturing people to absolute fucking annihilation with superhuman effort. How is this not a contradiction?
@giuliam2531
Жыл бұрын
From what I understand he explained the failure training has its own place at the end of the meso, after which you deload so the fatigue is not a problem. The problem would be to train to failure all the time from the beginning, for sustainability.
@tuukkalaitinen813
Жыл бұрын
@@giuliam2531 Thanks for the response. I actually have understood things similarly from what I have read from his materials, but have started to question is this still his thinking after watching all the videos of training that currently come out. In those I think the message seems to be "be hardcore you fucking pussy", but yeah, maybe there are disclaimers or explanations in there but I am too adhd to watch/listen carefully. But still, one of the recent ideas like Myorep matching , seems to me like going really close to failure for many many times. Maybe he says there needs to be RIR left in those as well and I may have just skipped it...
@zigatrcek4126
Жыл бұрын
@@tuukkalaitinen813you can myorep match with reps in reserve too. You simply stop 2 reps from failure, rest for a few seconds, then do as many reps as it takes to approach 2 reps from failure again.
@greenricee
Жыл бұрын
@@tuukkalaitinen813yeah pretty much what the other guy said. People come to him before the end of their training block and he takes them through a hellishworkout. He does this because it’s fun for us to watch, but he doesn’t always (he does sometimes) clarify in those training videos that viewers should only train like this at the end of mesocycles
@bigpicturegains
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m of the opinion after my 10+ year fitness journey that trying to “force” the body to do something is never a good idea. A better approach is to nudge the body into the desired direction. We are much more likely to make the desired adaptations reality by, yes getting uncomfortable, but also listening to the body when it sets off alarm signals.
@medi_michi
Жыл бұрын
Great Podcast as always!
@brunoschirmer
Жыл бұрын
Nice
@JosePDiaz-ck5pk
5 ай бұрын
no wonder doc was all ripped and buffed out at the same time
@wjs437
Жыл бұрын
It's okay Mike, you can just go back to Powerlifting with all this new mass right?
@gregoryburne5251
Жыл бұрын
Love Mike, but what’s the deal with his head shape?-those front to back ledges on the top in the front page pic? I have heard that such mis-shapen development is growth hormone related.
@ReviveStronger
Жыл бұрын
I think it's just his head. - Steve
@gregoryburne5251
Жыл бұрын
@@ReviveStronger Doubt it. I read about growth hormone affecting the skull like this. It’s not normal.
@LandOfTheFallen
Жыл бұрын
Keto and IF would have saved you Dr. Mike. ;)
@jackepperson1805
Жыл бұрын
would you say you can still run minicuts as aggressive as normal? or will you slightly tweak how you do them moving forward. ex let's say you're 200lbs and shoot for a daily deficit of 1000kcal on a minicut, learning from this interview would you potentially now only target a 750kcal deficit or since the minicuts are over so quickly do you think it's fine doing them as you have been? Curious because I have a minicut coming up in about another month or so and was wondering if i should still target that 1% rol or base my defecit on a 0.75% rol this time.
@TheNietzschian
Жыл бұрын
I don't think prep rules for fat loss apply to minicuts. 1. Minicuts are much shorter in duration, so there is less build up of fatigue. 2. There is no aesthetic end goal of a mini cut. You don't need to look your best therefore don't need to have low fatigue levels.
@nise-miro
Жыл бұрын
not a professional bodybuilder but ive learned a lot of the same things with minicuts and trying to push the defecit too high would up in the 1.2k deficit (even thought weirdly i didn't encounter a lot of hunger) and definitely lost a bunch of muscle
@kiddfamilyfarmllc9962
Жыл бұрын
If people paid attention they would of know your background.
@devil5hlygrim972
Жыл бұрын
Mike’s problem is that he’s well educated and an analytical thinker and more than likely detail oriented. He just needs to play the dumb guy and let everyone take care of him and his prep and just shut his brain off. Eat the food he’s told to eat and work out the way he’s told to work out and if that doesn’t work, I have no fucking clue, because that’s exactly the opposite from what I’m guessing other than Jared and the evil super genius, baby boy
@roshi_strider
Жыл бұрын
internet connects to the simpletons, the midwits, the immoral, and the few honest individuals, whether commentors or content creators. jimbob may be naive or ignorant, or just dumb, but don't assume they're all imaginary hillbillies. dragonball does have a fairly correct philosophy; "move well, learn well, play well, eat well, and rest well."
@jeffreywingham5302
Жыл бұрын
Lol are those horn ridges on his head?
@DorianColeman
Жыл бұрын
Is that a roid skull me love
@dermotshaw6775
7 ай бұрын
Wierd how there's not much good advice on prep. It's almost like the prep coaches keep it a secret for personal gain 🤷♂️ 😂
@thestar4397
Жыл бұрын
I think Mikes pride is fogging his vision ! He definitely is on my top 3 guys in bodybuilding . Just admit that your peaking protocol was horrible and you need a better guy who is more knowledgeable about peds and peak week
@tomerttb
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your content and the discussions you bring up. However, I wanted to share my perspective on a recent reference you made to Auschwitz camp survivors and their appearance. The Holocaust was an immensely tragic event in history that resulted in the loss of millions of lives. It's crucial that when we discuss topics like this, we do so with great sensitivity and accuracy. References to the physical appearance of survivors can inadvertently trivialize the depth of their suffering and the historical significance of the events they went through. It's important to remember that survivors of the Holocaust endured unimaginable pain, loss, and trauma. Discussing their appearance should be approached with empathy and understanding, focusing on the resilience they displayed rather than emphasizing their physical condition.
@musclemedicine_M.D
11 ай бұрын
Flat for days..ok, flat for months.. you’re never coming back 😢
@grouse6
Жыл бұрын
Carb up for 10 days on 500g of carbs per day lad
@dickpiano1802
Жыл бұрын
1:34:00 Who gave Mike the right to reveal my game on the internet?????
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