I love so much how you mention forgetting your calculator, since this was made back before everyone had calculators on their person at all times.
@jamesroberts3058
4 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. I show this every semester to my students because it is explained perfectly!
@TenBackWI
4 жыл бұрын
Man what a good video. I am 32 and just getting into woodworking. I have always been into tools and things as I am in the trades, but this is a whole new world. I walked into my local Woodcraft, browsed around, got overwhelmed and left haha!! I knew I had to do more research before diving right in lol! Thank you very much for the info!
@mh53eflyguy
10 жыл бұрын
I watched this video a few months back, and I just watched it again because I'm about to make my first trip to a "Hardwood" dealer. This is great info, and I know it will come in handy tomorrow! Thanks Marc!
@aivenssar
6 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic. I'm a worry-wort, and am super intimidated about going to the hardwood dealer. I'm committed to developing myself as a woodworker, so I know I need to get over it and start shopping for the good stuff -- this video will help.
@redgeminiarts3674
7 жыл бұрын
WOW! I learned a lot, you saved me some time and money. I like your videos, you are so knowledgable and you don't mind sharing. Nice skit too, your wife did an EXCELLENT job!
@woodwhisperer
12 жыл бұрын
The US tried to switch but it was unsuccessful. I guess it's a matter of tradition, habit, and of course businesses incurring expense for having to switch to a new weights and measures system. My background is in biology and chemistry where everything is metric, and I love the system's simplicity. I really wish we could find a way to switch as a nation.
@Esophagone
6 жыл бұрын
I was in school learning that very thing when Carter tried to impliment that and it was only a half hearted attempt, we learned our system more and since they were teaching both it made learning them kinda hard for me but the metric system was easier. But hey who doesn't love trying to add and subtract fractions...am I right :P
@zapa1pnt
3 жыл бұрын
@@Esophagone: This is an old subject, but so am I. When I was in elementary school (60s), they tried to teach us the metric system but they did it Bass Acwards. They taught it by comparisons and conversions to the American Standard. STU...PID. The way to teach a new measurement system is to give the student a tape measure and say "Use it!". You can't learn this by conversions and comparisons. Just a bunch of pointless and confusing math. No one learned a damned thing and then it was dropped. And it could have been so simple.
@DemasShopforEverything
9 жыл бұрын
Old video but a lot of good info, yellow pages lol, history books
@woodwhisperer
9 жыл бұрын
+Dema's WoodShop Do they still make those? lol
@DemasShopforEverything
9 жыл бұрын
+The Wood Whisperer i think they actually do lol...
@ZanesTrains1972
7 жыл бұрын
Dema's WoodShop old comment now
@maxbayko8666
7 жыл бұрын
do people still carry calculators either?
@chrissnyder4439
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they're called smartphones :)
@garrisonsheffield9583
3 жыл бұрын
14 years later and still a very informative video! Just have to ignore the yellow pages comment 😂
@sambowen
3 жыл бұрын
Ha, heard you mention the other day about your first videos. I've been watching for maybe 4 or 5 years I guess, maybe a little more, but don't think I've come back this far before, although that "we sell wood" sign looks familiar It is cool to see how far the channel has come.
@playdrums
17 жыл бұрын
I liked the explaination of quarter, rift and flat-sawn lumber and how the wood is expected to expand. Some great tips I really never knew about before...thank you!
@weberwoodshop
6 жыл бұрын
I’m excited about this new channel Mark, it seems like you could be big some day 👍🏼
@rudytorres6559
9 жыл бұрын
I'm late to the game. I'm sure many beginners can relate to your experience at the hard wood dealer. I can! Thanks for this great info.
@woodwhisperer
14 жыл бұрын
@TheSenior53 I never posted those on KZitem for some reason. Honestly can't even remember why at this point. You can always check them out at my website though.
@MrJohnnyboyrebel
6 жыл бұрын
After buying so much lumber from the big box stores, I was drawn to this video. This was so informative. I made my way across town to the hardwood dealer and purchased a bunch of 1x6 cypress, S2S, and asked the salesman to calculate the board-foot amount. It was 38.6 bf and the price per bf was $5.85. I looked at the rough stock as well but decided on S2S because it would save a lot of time, as it was already the thickness I wanted. My wife was thinking I would be spending upwards of $400 for this, but the total was $225.81. This plus hardware would make the material cost of each Adirondack chair only $129! Not bad for chairs that will last for many years, even out in the weather. Of course the finish cost will drive up the material cost a little, but I haven't decided on the finish. Thanks for taking the scare factor out of buying better lumber! You really helped me out!
@lauravincent3
9 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video, got a kick out of the beginning skit, mostly because it was true for me, too. The one difference was the awe I felt looking at all the different types of wood available. Some good information in here.
@chrissnyder4439
7 жыл бұрын
"The day will come when you forget your calculator" 6 months later the first iPhone was launched and no one ever forgot their calculator again.
@bobbg9041
3 жыл бұрын
Don't have an EYE phone, but I do need reading glasses!
@afpwebworks
9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marc. Seeing you wrestling with explaining board feet made me thankful that we went metric all those years ago. When i was a teenager I had a job in a timber merchants office calculating invoices and had to learn about board feet then, i'd forgotten how difficult it is compared to just multiplying millimetres.
@Stevelemontrudy
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I remember this video from a long time ago and couldn't remember where I saw it. I found myself in a hardwood dealer for the 1st time today wishing I had rewatched this. Now I'm ready to roll.
@alanr745
7 жыл бұрын
Marc, again, you're an excellent educational comedian. Nice work man! Granted...I'm like...11 years late on viewing this.
@garyfretwell3869
3 жыл бұрын
Still my favorite after all these years 🤣😜
@franktarte2471
10 жыл бұрын
Hello Marc. Just watched this video. Very well done, funny and informative. You and Steve Ramsey are one of a kind and I enjoy!. Thanks.
@gnomacide07
8 жыл бұрын
I think it would be really awesome if you remade some of these early videos in high definition. These older videos are very helpful but difficult to see in standard def. Great info.
@johnchow5642
6 жыл бұрын
@Chris That's a good idea. By the way here are some great woodworking plans: LionWood.xyz
@mattro4902
8 жыл бұрын
This helped since I had the same exact feeling/experience when I went to my first lumber yard. No hot girl though. It actually took me a few weeks to walk in to the place for the first time! Thanks for the tips!
@chungtkhtc
7 жыл бұрын
As a newbie, I love your site. Loads of useful info and tips. Thank you and KZitem too.
@avysdesigns1640
7 жыл бұрын
Great info-I need to start shopping for some rough lumber for my future projects! I know I'm late to the party but I'm excited to see your woodworking progress throughout all your videos-starting from the beginning!
@ramu010101
15 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH for creating and publishing these videos; I am a newbie in woodworking and this is just great . Thanks!
@woodwhisperer
13 жыл бұрын
@islandquilting Thanks for the kind words! Yes all of these videos and more can be found on our website. We also have helpful articles, project posts, shop tours, and an active woodworking forum, as well a live page where you can watch other woodworkers around the world do their thing in their own shops. Pretty cool stuff. You should stop by.
@QuarkLepton356
3 жыл бұрын
One of the funnies parts about this video is that the "forget your calculator" comment was way more of an issue at the time this video was made since this video predates the ubiquitous smart phone by about a year.
@michaelbray6010
7 жыл бұрын
Your videos are really well done, I watch them all with pleasure. I scour the internet so I can direct my students to the best. Your are one of those! One small point here... Plain sawn is the most common lumber, flat sawn is not offered. You did show a flat sawn board, but most boards include a little bit of quarter, rift and flat, in other words plain sawn.. That is why the lumber is almost always cupped a little.
@woodwhisperer
7 жыл бұрын
+Michael Bray thanks Michael! From my experience, plain sawn and flat sawn are simply synonyms. Generally speaking, you should not find rift and quarter sawn stock in a plain sawn pile, though some portions of some boards will contain vertical and angled grain. But they are still flat sawn/plain sawn.
@jsdao
9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos. For an amateur I I watched your video's to assist in building my wall unit for my office, and they helped me a lot, especially the ones with finishes and its importance. You should get a kickback from general finishes, because if wasn't for your demonstrations I would have used minwax (which I will never use again)..
@islandquilting
13 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. I always learn something, you speak in understandable English, there's always a laugh or two, and you aren't patronizing your viewership. Can all your videos be accessed through your website as well? Thanks a million from a woman woodworker.
@lundyswoodcrease5876
5 жыл бұрын
This is exactly how it happened to me today (first time to the lumber yard).except for the customer service girl. He wasn’t ugly but.... anyways, Thought I was ready to graduate from HD’s lumber yard but left empty handed. Ugh if only I had thought to check to see if you shot a video about it before hand. This was really helpful Marc. I’m ready for another go.
@Xorobabel
4 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, I wish I had watched this video before making my first trip to the hardwood dealer.
@CarlosPickens
8 жыл бұрын
Fantastic and informative info for a novice like myself! I subscribed a while back and your video are really special because you cover the little things that most of the video maker assume I already know. Thanks dude!
@AandB1998
8 жыл бұрын
Old video or not, it's a great video with a lot of helpful information. Thank you! New subscriber here.
@woodwhisperer
11 жыл бұрын
That is indeed my wife and no that's not how we met. But that would be a good story. :) I do indeed recommend plywood from a good hardwood dealer. As for quality, I'd first rely on the standard grading system. Usually that's pretty reliable for selecting sheetgoods.
@atlas5651
3 жыл бұрын
Bless your damn heart man. 🤣 Thank you for saving me from the overwhelming embarrassment of my first trip. 🤣
@robertcochran7103
2 жыл бұрын
This is a really wonderful video! Thank you, and I learned from you.
@Puppygirl-hj1tn
5 жыл бұрын
So funny. Nailed it. This was exactly my experience.
@jdubfudge
10 жыл бұрын
@southelgindad I would check with the hardood store for plywoods as well. For instance, I live in Hawaii and wood is pretty hard to get here sometimes. There too many wood stores on Oahu. Most of the lumber yards store their wood outside and it rains almost daily so it is pretty wet. However, there is a plywood specific store here (Plywood Hawaii) that carries great plywood and hardwoods as well. They offer not only the standard types of ply you would see in a big box store but other kinds as well, such as koa, teak, bamboo, oak, sapele, mahogony ect... They carry each type in 1/4 inch to 1 inch and some up to 1.5 inches. Most of their selection they also offer in prefinished as well, which saves a lot of time in finishing. And the best part, their wood is actually less expensinve then going to Home Depot.
@dafyddlewis89
10 жыл бұрын
Went to my local hardwood yard recently, wasnt sure if i needed to watch this but once i was there im glad i did, it can be overwhelming. Problem is, i budgeted £60-70 for my wood and it was only £10, half way home i realised i should have probably bought more lol
@GWAYGWAY1
10 жыл бұрын
That is unusual for the UK (treasure Island ) I normally aim to X and end up paying X time 2 or 3.
@Hycalon
8 жыл бұрын
Windsor Plywood in Canada or at least my local store is very helpful hardwood shop and is very customer service focused. Their main business is just like you said but they seem unusually focused on accommodating recreational woodworkers. Now my local home hardware.....thats another story.
@bobbg9041
3 жыл бұрын
I did the Smart thing I called them! then was told you buy by the bf not how wide it is! So I went with the flow. Now I call in ask for 40bf od XXX rough cut walk in pay for it pick it up and split. we don't get to pick out our lumber. Add 10 to 20% for waste.............its wood none of its going to waste, I'll keep the scraps forever!
@MrTstarks
8 жыл бұрын
my head is spinning. I'm going to have to watch this again and take notes.
@caster513
10 жыл бұрын
Great information! Just getting into wood working and your videos are very helpful. Thanks man
@cycleincircles
2 жыл бұрын
Should you tip the person helping you at the lumber yard? I just got home from lumber shopping and realized I only paid board-foot price, and the guy who worked with me helped me pick out pieces from a huge stack, cut them in half (for transport) and jointed 1 side each with a super spiffy laser guided jointer. I only got to thinking on the drive home that it seemed like a possible tipping situation.
@woodwhisperer
15 жыл бұрын
Definitely not a stupid question. The answer is yes. Its not really a functional board when oriented that way. But technically yes, that would be quartersawn.
@malpasssss
14 жыл бұрын
me encantan tus videos,gracias a ellos puedo hacer muchas cosas en mi carpinteria que antes no hubiera sabido hacer graciasssss
@TomKaren94
10 жыл бұрын
Best way to find the best materials: move to an area with a significant Amish community.
@JK-qp4jy
3 жыл бұрын
Fact
@christopherthiessen9040
7 жыл бұрын
Great little skit Marc , looks like you were going to bust a move at the end there - like Chad Stanton. ;)
@McGoofbalProductions
10 жыл бұрын
Very informative video, really helped me out a lot...... thanks marc
@woodwhisperer
15 жыл бұрын
Yup. Of course there could be some unique circumstances where it would be very useful ( like guitar necks).
@woodwhisperer
13 жыл бұрын
@startreking2007 You can actually view those over at our website. Why they aren't on KZitem is a bit of a long story, lol.
@woodwhisperer
13 жыл бұрын
@CVinje2 Hey neighbor! I usually go to Spellman Hardwoods. Good prices and good quality. They have pretty much all the domestics and some exotics like mahogany. And happy holidays to you too!
@kosinskiarek
10 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for your help on this important subject
@islandquilting
13 жыл бұрын
Wow, you're very responsive. No wonder you have such a big following. Thanks for the reply. I'll check out the website. BTW, until I watched this video I never fully understood how to identify a riftsawn board. So thanks. Now I get it. ;o).
@woodwhisperer
11 жыл бұрын
MDF isn't too bad but I'd stay away from the plywood. Some stores actually do carry decent ply but I find those are hit and miss and vary from region to region.
@sigung01
8 жыл бұрын
Video number 4, wow Mark. This is really useful. Great stuff. I am currently embarking on a quest to build a house full of Mission style furniture. Can you guess why I am very appreciative?
@basementbrew
2 жыл бұрын
Just what I needed, thanks.
@nicart56
10 жыл бұрын
You are the best~Mark!!!!!!!!!!!!
@UriValdez
8 жыл бұрын
I wished I had seen this video before making myself look like an ass. Thankfully the people at one of the hardwood places were kind enough to help me out.
@AndrewHecker85
10 жыл бұрын
I've always been fond of imperial measurements, maybe just because I like the dozenal system. Besides, I think pretty much all the sciences work in metric already, and most auto parts are metric (or becoming metric). Pretty much just construction and food that's still on the old system, really. And really, how hard is it to remember that there are 5-1/2 yards to a rod? Simple as can be. The biggest downside is that I have to have wrenches in both systems.
@MichaelMeis33
10 жыл бұрын
this has been extremely informative
@JJBoby2000
3 жыл бұрын
"Yellow pages" ! haha good old times..
@Atheistic007
6 жыл бұрын
"Video Podcast" I've not heard that term in a while. Yellow pages, classic.
@Subsonic-cd2en
6 жыл бұрын
I remember when I first got started in woodworking, I had a nearly identical experience at the lumber store - minus the cute girl aspect. This video would have been invaluable to me at that time! In your demonstration you briefly mentioned grades of wood, but then never covered it in the video. It would have been nice to include descriptions of S&B, #1COM and so forth as well.
@woodwhisperer
13 жыл бұрын
@CVinje2 yup!
@bluecollarmoneymatters8246
6 жыл бұрын
An oldie but a goodie. Had to laugh at how many less tattoos you had back then!
@katherinecarroll3706
9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marc that was very useful. Kathy
@mrcwoodworks4523
5 жыл бұрын
I only use pine 😞 but I got some old wood from a scrap yard
@shedloadsoffun2093
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@1180gecko
7 жыл бұрын
I wish I would of seen this video before going to a hardwood store. I was completely lost even with the paper on how is priced.
@omarflores323
5 жыл бұрын
Im relatively new to woodworking. Ive always worked with pine and decided to step up my game to hardwoods. My closest WoodCraft is about a 4 hr drive away. I went for it just to find out their lumber is ridiculously expensive. There went al my hopes of working with hardwood. I did expect hardwood to be higher in price but WoodCraft is a ripoff. Too bad there no lumber yards near me. Oh well, pine and birch plywood it is.
@RubinGnoni
10 жыл бұрын
I've learned a lot with your video, but I wonder how to identify woods by their face finishing. I've heard things like A-B, etc. Hopefully you'd know what I'm talking about and will clear that for me. Thanks.
@SCAREDBANANA
13 жыл бұрын
I am really glad that we use metric system in Europe, it´s a lot easyer
@jeremybarker7923
9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. Very informative.
@woodwhisperer
12 жыл бұрын
Take a look at my Jointer's Jumpin video either here on KZitem or on my site. It should give you a few ideas.
@Wickate
13 жыл бұрын
@TheWoodWhisperer thanks so much for the reply! Good news to hear I don't have to go to Chandler for good lumber. Another question - does Spellman offer rough sawn (RGH, I think it's abbreviated to)?
@TheGuyThatGamez
8 жыл бұрын
Hey, great video! I'm sort of new to woodworking at home and wondered if there's any chance that you could do a more up to date version of this video? Thanks!
@2010stoof
7 жыл бұрын
All I have near me is "John's lumber" in Michigan. They do sell hardwoods but I have to order them. :-(
@mjrwey
6 жыл бұрын
It's funny hearing you describe a hardwood lumber yard, why are they all basically the same? And all too true about the guys that work in them, i've never seen a happy one!!
@joshl90
7 жыл бұрын
10.5 years ago. Wow!
@JimTom.
12 жыл бұрын
holy shite!, imperial is super difficult, metric is so easy, we name the thickness what it is, i dont understand why America is still the only country that uses the imperial system,its so confusing and calculations take longer, i know! BTW im looking back at your first videos Marc, and man youre shop has improved! :)
@CustomAddics
3 жыл бұрын
you are so ahead of your time!
@B.r.i.a.n.1
7 жыл бұрын
calculators and yellow pages. I knew this was old. haha. great info though
@thegunguymartin
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother !
@solis1211
11 жыл бұрын
Just went to the lumber yard for the first time today to get some wood for my final project at school. Headed there with the intention of purchasing rough lumber, but when I got there I realized that its really hard to see the grain pattern through the rough surface. I wanted to get some figured maple, but because I wasn't able to see the pattern in the rough, I settled for a piece of half-decent dressed hardwood. Any tips for picking rough maple with a nice curly pattern on it?
@Wickate
13 жыл бұрын
Marc, I live in Surprise and am just starting out woodworking - where is a good source for hardwood / sheet-goods for us Zonies? Love the site, greatly appreciate the videos and all the effort you put forth helping out the newbies!! Happy holidays!!
@maplobats
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, a phone book! I remember those....
@caseysherman88
10 жыл бұрын
Marc, great information and thank you you for the video. Am I the only one who's finding it tough to see the grain because the video quality isn't very good. 99% of your vids are HD, what happened here? Maybe another shoot is in order. Either way, thanks a lot for all of your great information and awesome workshop. I know everyone appreciates your time and efforts teaching us about woodworking! Keep up the great work!
@Jay2525Jay
11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the info.
@troyharlow24
10 жыл бұрын
This is what I need. Thank you
@miguelmuniz2421
6 жыл бұрын
Ty a lot, much appreciated. great advice 😊👍
@kenadent
10 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you...........
@clausfriishansen2247
6 жыл бұрын
U lucky ba******....A little more than 200 US - in Denmark this would total at between 400 and 500 US Walnut is SO expensive ...
@synapse131
12 жыл бұрын
You need a TV show!
@virtualfather
10 жыл бұрын
Best way to calculate board feet when board has bark on one or two edges?
@TitusLivy777
9 жыл бұрын
Very helpful!
@steenfraosterbro
11 жыл бұрын
Hey Marc. Could you be a sweetheart and run through this episode again using the metric system ;-) Your Scandinavian fan
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