God, battle for gilneas city would have been such an awesome bg. Instead of fighting in fieds or whatever, fighting in the streets of a city.
@RealGairos
7 жыл бұрын
I've never understood why blizzard scraps things and then replaces them with something far inferior (or with nothing at all). I don't think I've ever thought "wow, that was a shitty idea, thank god they scrapped it!"
@cookiegaming572
7 жыл бұрын
+Gairos Likely time restraints or they simply have a really bad testing/feedback team. I personally feel its likely the latter - bad management and poor understanding of what their player base want.
@cristianbernal8009
7 жыл бұрын
It's mostly due to time restraints. The team is large and working on multiple things at a time. Resources grow low and they have to think about smaller projects to get the big ones such as raids out of the way, as that is the main focus of the game.
@cristianbernal8009
7 жыл бұрын
I will say that's unfair to say as Legion shows just how wrong that is. They do listen and do their very best to do what we want as well as what blizzard wants with their game. The playerbase is never happy with anything. Quoting former Head Dev Kaplan: "I could have mailed every WoW player 500 gold when I was working on the game and they would have complained about it."
@RealGairos
7 жыл бұрын
Gamzee Makara Yeah but what about legendaries? Who the fuck wanted them to be like this? What kind moron *likes* RNG?
@madseasonshow
7 жыл бұрын
More cut content. This time, Cataclysm. Due to feedback, I decided to skip a lot of the minor stuff this time around and instead go for only the big stuff, but go into more detail. Do you prefer this style, or like what I did with the Draenor video? Thanks for watching regardless. Enjoy and have a good weekend!
@GravityTrash
7 жыл бұрын
I kinda liked the minor stuff as well. I guess covering the big things first then the small things work better?
@madseasonshow
7 жыл бұрын
I'll keep it in mind for the next one. Thanks Pix!
@charleypayne1992
7 жыл бұрын
I liked the Dranoe Video more :=
@charleypayne1992
7 жыл бұрын
I liked the Draenor video more* Sorry for that spelling lol
@generationtpaul
7 жыл бұрын
I liked the Draenor video as well, seeing some of the minor things. I have to go for an inverse suggestion to Pix Tron and say, maybe start small then finish big?
@kevinrex7414
7 жыл бұрын
MoP please good sir. MoP brought about big changes with the current talent system.
@seileurt
7 жыл бұрын
I agree. Please do the next video on Pandaria.
@madseasonshow
7 жыл бұрын
That seems to be the most requested one. I'll look into it!
@filipbatora7523
7 жыл бұрын
No idea about TBC or WotLK, but saying Cata or MoP had less max level content than Vanilla is extremely wrong. What could you do in Vanilla? Grinding, farming, BGs, dungeons and raids (except many people did not get to do neither dungeons or raids and many did not do PvP, just like today) does not seem like more than what WoD offered. The only difference was that in Vanilla, everything took so long you actually could spend hours doing the same thing you would do in 30 minutes in later expansions.
@vividly94
7 жыл бұрын
That's not true at all. Just because it looks like it had more content doesn't mean it actually HAD more content. The progression from Vanilla WoW to the later expansions is little to non existent. In Vanilla, it took you literally months to get to max level. During this time, there were loads of things to do - like specific quests to get a certain armor piece. Elite quests. World bosses. Reputation farming (when it was actually a thing). It took you a lot longer than it would in the later expansions, meaning that you had more content to actually get through. When you finally hit max level. You weren't given anything. In fact, you'd probably still have fucking greens on. So what to do next? Farm reputation for discounts on gear (that actually competed with raid gear), getting your epic mount (took a lot of time grinding 1k+buying the actual mount). By that time, you'd be able to go into harder-end dungeons like UBRS/LBRS (15-25 man raids depending on how geared you were). However, you were forced to do those dungeons for attunement quests in order to actually progress to the next raid. World PVP was a thing due to the honor points. I could go on. However, trust me when i say EVERYTHING was different. When you think of a raid now, its like "Wow a new raid!" then it gets completed in literally a week or two. Back then, it took servers AGES for the top guilds to progress. So there was ALWAYS something to do. You NEVER had max gear (like you had now). Individual stats mattered a lot more in raids (shadow resistance, fire resistance ect...) making you need to farm for other armor sets rather than having them handed to you in the end of every single dungeon. The gear disparity was huge (meaning if you saw someone with atleast half an epic set, you were flipping shit). So much. But don't EVER let the words 'Raid, dungeon, quest ect' dictate the content of a game. Its about how you get there, not whats already there. That's what WoW is missing right now. Immersion and a sense of progress. Now its a countdown timer to see who gets there first.
@JonathonTheAsshole
7 жыл бұрын
If by months to get to max level you mean 5-7 days.
@hirumaredx
7 жыл бұрын
Great stuff
@Khanmanlol
7 жыл бұрын
1:11 It was Al'Akir who was the Wind Lord during Cataclysm, not Thunderaan.
@bigbangattack97
7 жыл бұрын
People werent tired of the water. They were tired of the way blizzard made the movement in the water and the like. Under water areas would be cool even an underwater city would be awesome imo. And they could make it work.
@Immagonko
6 жыл бұрын
j rok really? Personally I always hated that water-themed dungeons and locations. Ugly and annoying
@MikasaaOW
5 жыл бұрын
Speak for yourself 💀 that shit sucked
@Mincecroft
Жыл бұрын
I know this comment is like 6 years old but tbh what else could they do with water movement. They are limited by the engine and design of the game and only recently have we seen Dragonriding be a good alternative. Not sure something similar was viable back then.
@zoruathecunning5434
7 жыл бұрын
I joined in late in Warloard so seeing these thing is awesome I can get a glimse into what Wold of Warcraft once was. Thanks for doing this.
@machinelfgaming
7 жыл бұрын
Mad, you are rapidly becoming my new fave channel. Keep it up!
@LinkenLorko
7 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Al'Akir was the elemental Lord of air.
@riftbandit223
7 жыл бұрын
He's over 30,000 years old he has more than 1 name.
@webausay
7 жыл бұрын
He's dead. Thunderran took over for him in the Shaman Order Hall quests. Ragnaros was likewise replaced, so I'm not certain why this guy cites him as the Lord of Fire still. EDIT: apologies, he does actually source Smolderon as the new Firelord, i just didnt pay enough attention
@Endtimescoming
4 жыл бұрын
Alright so I've done the Throne of the Tides dungeon many many many times over the years and not one time have I ever noticed until this video that Neptulon had been taken my Ozumot at the end....cuz I pay attention.
@Mcspazz731
4 жыл бұрын
actually same lol, i even play a cata private server sometimes and still never noticed lol!
@greatbudda
6 жыл бұрын
That clip about C'thun in Silithus is pretty interesting since it was all the way back in 4.3 guess maybe they had him in there minds for a bit.
@A_G_4
7 жыл бұрын
Hands down favorite WoW youtuber
@Uggasmesh
7 жыл бұрын
I very much enjoy this little series of yours! Also wow that c'thun video from Totalbiscuit. I remember watching his videos back near the end of WotLK. Boy does that feel like a long time ago!
@DWEthronil
7 жыл бұрын
back in the time of the great banishing of the titans it was Al'akir not Thunderaan wich is Al'akirs son and the new Windlord as explained in the Shaman Campaign :)
@brewtank6738
7 жыл бұрын
Pretty dope! BC would be cool to see what they scraped considering it was the first expansion so they could have done anything and had the highest resources. Great expansion, curious to what else they were going to add though!
@crispybaconism9704
7 жыл бұрын
Great video man, just discovered your channel a few weeks ago and loving it so far. Keep it up!
@jcolvard
7 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video - thanks again for what you do! I recall aerial combat in Lich King was cut back in the day. Heck my old game box still says that it was included lol.
@madseasonshow
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Mike! Yup I remember the same. It would have been interesting to see how that would have worked in wintergrasp and maybe even Ulduar. Pretty fun, but hard to balance I'm sure!
@buhlayke
7 жыл бұрын
Wrath is probably the next logical to go into. The fabled Frost Troll raid, Azjol-Nerub zone themselves provide plenty of substance
@gozcubukcu1
7 жыл бұрын
Cataclysm was the first example of a good expansion gone bad. I remember how hard the dungeons were at the start where you had to CC mobs. After a few nerfs it turned in pull more pull more! so far Legion is good. I hope they don't ruin it.
@Shots1419
4 жыл бұрын
4:50 here we are in BFA and seeing this sorta concept, but different.
@GravityTrash
7 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the abandoned content of Burning Crusade and Wrath of the Lich King. However, I think Legion would be the coolest to cover!
@ThisIsChron
4 жыл бұрын
and now we got them both as raids (azshara and na'zoth)
@lordchaos52
7 жыл бұрын
really enjoy these videos that you bring out. seein what cudv been. i like hayven games as they show u places that cudv been too. ur one of my 2 fave WoW channels so pls keep this stuff coming :D
@Olkard
7 жыл бұрын
That Battle for Gilneas City battleground sounded pretty sick. I would have loved to played that, mainly so that we know what's happening with Gilneas.
@gazopacho
2 ай бұрын
This is by no means a slight (quite the opposite actually) but youre the only creator I can think of that going back even 7 years ago doesnt change the quality of the content (your shit is always top tier, much love!)
@knellycornnan5132
7 жыл бұрын
One big thing you forgot was ogres as a playable race. They were going to be in Cata, but Blizzard replaced them with goblins.
@philledwith8307
4 жыл бұрын
This is pretty cool to see. I'd have enjoyed a continuation of the Neptulon story.
@lux7371
5 жыл бұрын
Watching this again, I now realize that the Path of the Titans system has a STRONG echo in the current (8.2) iteration of the Azerite system. It's had its growing pains, but I don't mind the Azerite system as it is now, especially with the essences, and the varied ways to obtain and upgrade them. The different ranks of the essences, and the layout of the Azerite traits looks very similar to how the Path of the Titans was slated to turn out. Makes you wonder what other scrapped content will show itself in echoes in the future! Also, it's funny watching this now and seeing how much of the speculation (esp. regarding N'zoth, Azshara, the Highborne/Naga) turned out to be true. I'd still love to see an Abyssal Maw raid, or even as a whole zone!
@steamAwesOmeS
7 жыл бұрын
Neptulon magicly appeared in the shaman order hall.
@jorge56177
7 жыл бұрын
Good video! My favourite dungeon from Cataclysm is The Well of Eternity.
@MrPwnasaur
7 жыл бұрын
al'akir was the lord of wind who was banished to Skywall, Thunderaan was i believe his son.
@OMER831
7 жыл бұрын
I'm addicted to his voice, it's so relaxing.
@Bummul
7 жыл бұрын
A capture the district BG? That would be hella fun. It'd end up like an old AV.
@pinderscow
7 жыл бұрын
Great video! love your stuff! keep making more please!
@alec_______
7 жыл бұрын
That path of the titan concept ...i think it will be added in the next expansion, because blizzard wont abandon new style of grind/gameplay(WQ, artifact power grind) that easly, so i expect path of the titan grind in the old gods expansion.
@NickGurred
Жыл бұрын
I could see the Path of the Titans system coming soon, considering the Titans are a part of the storyline for this current expansion and what's to come.
@Calysto929
3 жыл бұрын
this needs an update with what happend in BFA
@cutiepieellery6673
7 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these.
@potetochips9869
7 жыл бұрын
Abyssal Maa
@Varaten
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks great video!
@balazsszucs7055
7 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. This might sound like an odd request, but once you are done with these cut contents, or just want to do something else, can you do a list of times when the storyline gets broken? I'm talking about stuff like Vol'Jin being angry about Garrosh on the Echo Isles, but totally dead once you reach the other side of Durotar 10 levels later. Or the end of the BE starting questline still mentions orc and troll warchiefs, even though Sylvanas is in charge.
@Lord_of_Bones
7 жыл бұрын
Cool video. However, saying that the old expansions had more raids is kinda stretching it. BC had 8 raids if you include Magtheridon's Lair and Gruul's Lair, but those are more like world bosses that were put into an instance. Same thing in Wotlk with Onyxia's Lair and Eye of Eternity and the sanctums were also very small one boss raids.
@BlindlyZack
7 жыл бұрын
SUBBED. great content dude, really appreciate it.
@ariochiv
7 жыл бұрын
Neptulon is in the Legon shaman order hall questline, isn't he?
@bansheeownz
7 жыл бұрын
Arioch IV All we got was a forum post explaining that he managed to escape. I like to think the fight was like the intro to LOTR the two towers but underwater.
@Lupinemancer87
7 жыл бұрын
Minor correction, Al'akir was the Air Elemental Lord. And I still hope to see Path of the Titans appear in some form as it sounded awesome as hell!
@rudy1999
7 жыл бұрын
He means the elemental lord in Silithus
@Lupinemancer87
7 жыл бұрын
"Each of these Planes have Lords that were banished by the Titans. Ragnaros for Fire, Therazane for Earth, Thunderan for Wind, and Neptulon for Water!" As he clearly talks about the original Elemental Lords that were banished long ago, what makes you think he talks about the one in Silithus? Al'Akir was the original Lord of Air!
@LordProteus
5 жыл бұрын
The real reason Abyssal Maw was cancelled was because of resource and time constraints. Firelands was mostly finished before Cataclysm even came out, as was War of the Ancients. Cataclysm was cut short because Blizzard needed to shift more focus to the next expansion to meet their bottom line, which is why a lot of Cataclysms content patches involved revamped old content(Troll dungeons) and new content that was all ready mostly or completely finished before Cataclysm was released.
@warfist
7 жыл бұрын
As cool as the Path of the Titans feature could have been, it was probably best they didn't spend resources on a feature that was only going to last for a single expansion. *cough* Garrisons *cough cough* Artifact Weapons *cough* :P
@lorelaitodd-watkins7203
7 жыл бұрын
Artifact Weapons may actually last, it helps that Blizz doesn't need to design any new weapons
@throatwobblermangrove8510
4 жыл бұрын
And artifact fishing poles. I had seriously hoped they were going to continue progression on that.
@localdingus6788
2 жыл бұрын
*Hacking up blood* Azurite *there goes a piece of my lung* Anima.
@alin-andreianita7646
7 жыл бұрын
Daily uploads please!
@HendricP
7 жыл бұрын
Thunderaan is Al'Akir's son.
@IRAMantisShrimp
7 жыл бұрын
I recommend Wrath at some point, be sure to mention Tuskgor XP
@novamaterial633
7 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the burning crusade
@madzzzey
6 жыл бұрын
Path of the titans look like the new gearing system with azurite. Was so hyped for this back in the day,.
@jayd8091
7 жыл бұрын
I'd really like more of this type of content, but any expansion is completely fine. I think you'd maybe have to do Vanilla in 2-3 parts though if you ever did it. I expect there would be a collosal amount of content cut/changed from Alpha to Beta/live/2.0 I did prefer the longer video's like with WoD though. Feel free to do what you prefer however.
@avukovic84
7 жыл бұрын
7:04 Too bad that Battle for Gilneas didn't make it. It reminds me of Battle for Praag in Warhammer Online, that was awesome.
@Soralax
7 жыл бұрын
Really loving these series! I always like speculations about game development. That's why I also love Hayven Games channel. He has amazingly good videos about scrapped content too! You should check him out if somehow you haven't seen him.
@CyclopsToppingWolverine
7 жыл бұрын
2:27 in response to what's underlined: FUCK NO! Not me anyways, I remember I used to swim around Vashj'ir for hours because I loved it so much and wanted more. Maybe I'm in the minority when it comes to this but I really loved Vashj'ir
@filthygaming265
7 жыл бұрын
#GiveUsBattleForGilneasCityBattleground! That idea sounds so much more fun than what we got. Especially if they kept all the little secret underground tunnels open.
@silverspear21
7 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for a long time to finally kill Azshara, I was excited in Cataclysm when they announced Abyssal Maw raid only to have it scrapped. I got excited again in Legion when she was announced to be part of it. The wait continues, hopefully in the next expansion I can finally get rid of her.
@artoriawisteria3256
7 жыл бұрын
Id like to see if anything was cut from legion
@robertjordan3155
7 жыл бұрын
one other thing that din't make it into cataclysm was crowd control for tanks since billiard hit all tanks hard with the nerf hammer
@mostsanemorrowindenjoyer
7 жыл бұрын
It's really sad that they didn't add the Path of the Titans thing, and those extra raids would have been a nice break from the nightmare Dragon Soul was and still is.
@Pa1n1000
7 жыл бұрын
Please make one about WotLK - For some people the best expansion and the pinnacle of WoW
@ThefirstPirate
7 жыл бұрын
Wrath of the Lich King please! :)
@dingo7539
6 жыл бұрын
great vid, but did it seem like it was just slightly sped up to anyone else?
@Pallasi
7 жыл бұрын
Skywall was not for thunderaan it was for al'akir his father.
@Shikaschima
6 жыл бұрын
"We thought they had Vashj'ir Fatigue" I wonder if that had to do with them just abandoning the entire Zone surrounding Abyssal Maw and thus making everyone mad at them for doing a REALLY shitty job in that zone.
@unheardr0b0t69
7 жыл бұрын
Do Burning Crusade Cuts like getting Pandarians instead of Draenei.
@geostyma
7 жыл бұрын
I don't mind stuff being reworked so much as it getting removed altogether. the glyph system seems to be the ancestor of artifacts though. Also I believe that the the excuse for dungeon and raid content missing was the different difficulty levels require different tuning so there was more content if you pushed through difficulty levels.It was kind of a lame excuse but whatevs
@parkertheskittle7372
7 жыл бұрын
Your voice is so soothing
@ZacGolus
7 жыл бұрын
Path of the titans was one of the features I was really looking forward to.
@bibleboyz2794
7 жыл бұрын
Please Mists of pandaria! it was my favorite expantion.. Im not kidding
@ch3feri
7 жыл бұрын
5:24 undead druid lul
@sirsh.8200
7 жыл бұрын
are you making videos from military underground bunker?
@merica6502
7 жыл бұрын
why does he mog his armor like that, I kinda like it
@austonwulfert136
7 жыл бұрын
holy shit battle for gilneas would have been amazing.
@byrnespeed
7 жыл бұрын
If you count the raid on Quel'Thalas wasn't it 9 raids? This island was awesome for world pvp.
@capuchoarthur
7 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@CA-en2ym
7 жыл бұрын
Al'Akir, not Thundaaran for the plane of air.
@Korja88
4 жыл бұрын
why is there no music this time
@Mister_Mag00
7 жыл бұрын
yesss all of the them do alll of them, but especially wrath(the best expansion to day)
@miaubella
3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this expansion, back when pvp WAS pvp.... when pvp had it's own world basically.
@mcrettable
7 жыл бұрын
the biggest ones? wasn't this all of the cut content?
@anwaralexander3035
7 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a WotLK video
@DEUS_VULT_INFIDEL
7 жыл бұрын
Know what else didn't make it to Cata? A good fuckin' game.
@lorelaitodd-watkins7203
7 жыл бұрын
Cataclysm gets a lot more hate than it deserves, in my eyes. They needed to redesign the world to allow flying and they decided, if they were gonna do the work, they'd make it an expansion pack. While people hate on Vash, it was optional. I went Hyjal > Deepholm > Twilight highlands.
@joshgray3888
6 жыл бұрын
8 should be minimum raids within an x pack so in theory you can raid twice a week if you want to.
@greatshaman0724
7 жыл бұрын
please, i need to know all the raids in wotlk, i dont think it adds up :/
@stephanbarnard3744
7 жыл бұрын
Your voice soothes me
@BarHonigfeld
7 жыл бұрын
I really hate when Blizzard uses the line of: "We canceled this obvious thing to bring you something better." It is just insulting. As if firelands wasn't worked on anyway. There were so many related quest lines and architecture on cata release, claiming it was freed up by the abyssal maw raid cancellation is absolute dishonesty. I used to give Blizzard some slack with cata, as the whole world revamp was a massive undertaking. But this goodwill is based on mutual respect, lying and weaseling their way out of supplying baseline expansion content instead of just admitting they fucked up and weren't able to bear the workload they planned would be something completely different. Same thing with Faralon. Worst justifications for content cuts ever.
@NexerdGamer
7 жыл бұрын
Yeeeeeeueeees he's doing it !!!
@RazanaArcclaw
7 жыл бұрын
to be fair, alot of the raids in icc and tbc had 1 bosses, also onyxia was literally just a scalled vanilla raid
@lorelaitodd-watkins7203
7 жыл бұрын
Which raids had only ONE BOSS?
@pascald67
7 жыл бұрын
Magtheridon was the only one i believe
@pogchamp2897
6 жыл бұрын
the only 2 fucking raids in WOTLK (ICC was a raid itself dumbass) that had one boss were EoE and Onyxia and the last one was just remade from vanilla, other than that all the other Raids had at least 4 heavy bosses, and i'm pretty sure there is no fucking way that they can top Ulduar.
@alimuhammadnasir1571
7 жыл бұрын
i would be pleased to see a Wotlk video..Good work!
@ClassiicMe
7 жыл бұрын
I feel like their reasoning behind most of the content they scrap is hollow. It seems like they just didn't want to put as much effort in over the years.
@debrickashaw9387
7 жыл бұрын
6:30 remove talents, reintroduce talents. Good job blizzard
@tom-sr1wt
6 жыл бұрын
TBC has 8 raids
@AVB40000
7 жыл бұрын
BC would be nice.
@Ren3gaid
7 жыл бұрын
Cuts for Wotlk :D
@usafangel176
7 жыл бұрын
I would request one for WoD, but I don't have 2 hours to spend watching a video of those disappointments :(
@godlygamer911
7 жыл бұрын
Who the fuck is Terand Whisperwind? TEE-Rahn-Duh (Tyranda)
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