And here I am, learning that SF actually has an attack move command. After 15+ walkthroughs
@shinrok
Жыл бұрын
@@Wormic same here but now my mouse decides to say F U and tries to die quickly and i already wanna buy another one anyway so no harm there in thhe long run
@justme6094
6 ай бұрын
Same
@Majvfb
2 жыл бұрын
This feels like a channel you would usually find years after it's dead, then you wonder why you didn't find it earlier and feel sad. But luckily that's not the case. Great video dude thought I knew all there is to know by now. Guess I was wrong
@Logan_97
2 жыл бұрын
You require the possibility to switch to the extremes. 1. Instantly send ur workers to get the ground stuff which is needed 4 the little headquarters. If u got a second race, also activate them instantly, but just produce as muss as workers for the ground buildings. 2.After u had build the little headquarters, make sure u collect food with foodtstores and special Ressources like lenya FAST. Also build buildings like "sawmill" as fast as possible. Be efficient. Ur 2nd race should also do the same, fast, but not more workes then required (especially 4 gathering the special Ressources and the buildings that like "sawmill". 3. Before building units, upgrade them. Build 10 to 20 units for a base defensive line. 4. Don't forget to increase ur economy and troops while building towers, But your base must be saved. Build 5 to 7 rows off Towers. Place your troops behind the 5th or the 6th line of the towers. Then Put Ava, here's and titans between 5th and 6th row. Place melee units close behind too protect The shooters and magicians in the next line. And put all of them in Hold mode. The enemies will try to reach ur troops and seem to really like to be shootem down by the towers. They totally ignore the towers. And head to the troops. Place ur towers, especially when U play more than 1 race, in a strategic way. When required, make build some more Towers BEHIND the borderline. This assures u, that u won't be overwhelmed super fast, when ur army died an holds the enemies off. More time too rebuild. 4. More foodstores = faster Reg. It's linear. 1 Fs = 100% healing speed 2 FS = 200% healing speed 3 FS = 300% healing speed Same goes for the unit buildings, which require workers. When U gathered an huge amount off Ressources, at least that much, u could restore ur army completely, even concentrate ur workes to gather MORE food. Before near all of ur workers are food slaves, make sure, as stated in the video, that u also build much unit production buildings. In most cases there r 2 buildings, 1 for fighter's and on for magicians, (just the trolls got just one). U can rebuild ur army fast. Same goes 4 ressource buildings. Don't stop collecting ressources either. Also build some extra buildings, which can be used, when needed. 5.When ur army is about to die or died already, reorganize ur workes by putting them in the unit production buildings. 6.Just make sure u could switch to the "extreme" modes of gathering, healing or producing fighters. The more races u play, the better and easier and faster it is, when they fully build up. 7. Get 2 titans. Just need 2 big headquarters. Summon a titan in 1, upgrade it in the other headquarter. When upgrading is done u can summon a second titan. 8. When attacking the enemy, use strategy and quick slots. Don't let ur archers go on combat rampage. The ki is pretty dumb. Organize ur troops and send them forward in an intelligent way. 9. Don't destroy the enemy camps entirely. Let one building be there. Surround the portal area with towers. (Maybe use the time multiplier cheat, when u r unpatient) AppSession:SetTimeMultiplier(20) gamespeed increased by 20 time Enjoy the farming. It definitely gives u money 4 each npc u slaughter. If the ep doesn't rise anymore, save the game. Close after, open and reload. Sometimes u get more xp. 10. If u r about to be overwhelmed, retreat to ur tower baseline. Let some of ur units there too hold the enemy off. So u r in position 4 defending faster. Reorganize ur workers!! U also could lower the game speed via the same cheat. AppSession:SetTimeMultiplier(1/3) f.e. slows it down to a third. U have more time to react 11. There many key orders to use Search in the comments. If u want to follow troops a certain npc/urself, just put them and then press shift and right click ON the troops they shall follow. U need to be flexible and fast
@Logan_97
Жыл бұрын
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@remptain5692
Жыл бұрын
1. Druids(Elves) and Paladins(Humans) will cast a "hidden" spell when they face undead enemies. Which makes them highly effective in many situations. 2. Every race has like a passive trait: -Orcs will flee from battle when they are low health, freeing the player from retreating them manually -Trolls will cast berserk when they are low health. Making them on there last seconds(or not) in battle absolute bonkers. -Nightelves(or Darkelves) will raise a skeleton warrior for every slain enemy. But only at night! Which gives a little bit extra depth when planning your raid. -Elves will gain better combat stats when they fight near forests. You can tell that the buff is active by a little light which shines beside their heads. -Dwarfs can actually level up. By fighting and gaining exp, making them much stronger if you keep them alive. I think they can get extra 5 levels to the base rune level. -Humans are actually far weaker when fighting at night time. They get a debuff in combat stats and lesser eyesight. This is pretty bad for ranged troops, since their attack range gets really small. Prevent this by fighting at daytime or near a lightsource like your buildings(they get torches at night). However there is a spell in the game which you can use a firemage. It is called Illuminate which enlights an area. You can use this spell to get rid of the debuff, allowing you to fight effectivly in the dark.
@retryghane
2 ай бұрын
wait what this is some serious shit i didnt know about thanks dude
@rendellz9244
2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god. I played the game for over 300 hours and didn't know how to rotate buildings. Thank you Wormic better late than never.
@Animaster89
2 жыл бұрын
In the base campaign of sf1: the enemy does not produce new units from the "white light" locations so long you dont activate the runestone building for making workers (you can activate the one for heroes). So you can play the whole base campaign only with your hero and avoid most of the building segment
@osvaldocorreia5367
2 жыл бұрын
Except at the Shiel where the spawns are activated as soon as you destroy enemy buildings. They don't attack your hero monument, tho.
@gregsau1860
2 жыл бұрын
And get almost no XP and Copper...
@buca9696
10 ай бұрын
You need to farm enemies, especially if you play as mage, otherwise you end up shit weak later on.
@hzweiox3611
2 жыл бұрын
There is a way to build two titans. You need two large headquarters and the resources for the two titans and the upgrade. Build a titan in the first large headquarters, activate the upgrade in the second and you can build a second titan. Important: You have to start the second titan before the first titan is completed. If one die you can rebuild it. If both are dead at the same time you can rebuild only one.
@TheBezixx
2 жыл бұрын
There's also one thing that is pretty obscure until you notice it yourself, which is related to #5 in a way: If you try to place a building that corresponds to other building ( like food gathering building next to food store or vice versa, also works with other resources like iron ), next to said building, it will actually highlight the building with green circle if it's in range.
@plumcat4089
2 жыл бұрын
Holy Aonir... What a hidden gem. If only all gathering buildings had this to highlight their resources... It would be awesome.
@pyrolight3557
2 жыл бұрын
that is true but be aware that some time this can decrees your production. For exemple if u got a Cowfarm they will take significent longer to produce, because the walking time is longer then the supply they would have normally. same goes for the draws and they food. Because the foodstore dont need to work for the reg. You only need a foodstore with a worker and Food in your bank.
@TheBezixx
2 жыл бұрын
@@pyrolight3557 I know. I always put food stores next to the buildings that take longer to gather( like animal hunting and grain farm/fungus farm ). But it's still useful in many ways.
@pyrolight3557
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBezixx y sure.
@Kurajberson
2 жыл бұрын
Also for anyone who still dont know its good to have multiple of same building for unit creation ( like forge, ) it speeds up ur unit creation the more building u have the faster ( up to 10 has effect ) and the speed is most noticeable with troll units. Also in howling mounds campaign there is a spot where undead spawn indefinitely as long as ( leave 1 general of korshar alive , leave only the building in front of the gate and move ur units south of there in front of stone circle and go afk farming :D ) the spawn rate is absurd there
@TheBezixx
2 жыл бұрын
More than 10 also has effect, but it's usually like every 5 buildings you will notice the difference.
@Kurajberson
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBezixx i think the most i went was like 11-12 building and stopped since i didnt notice any change btu i will try with 15 next time to see if its like u mentioned thx for the info
@TheBezixx
2 жыл бұрын
@@Kurajberson I went with almost 20 before to create Champions faster, going from 10 to this definitely made a difference.
@Kurajberson
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBezixx dayum which map did u had patience and resources to go for 20 in a single run.
@TheBezixx
2 жыл бұрын
@@Kurajberson Not sure about maps, but I built those slowly.
@Azoth86730
2 жыл бұрын
You can also directly control your own summons with "shift + right click" by setting patrol, and kill your own units and summons with "K". Troll Corpse Collector will gather food from the corpses of your own summons too, so you can always K your own summons for infinite food supply.
@GearsOfWarNerdify
2 жыл бұрын
I've played this game 2000+ hours easily and I didn't know about attack move or the food to regen lol. Thanks for the vid!
@madalinfilip6352
2 жыл бұрын
Even I didn't knew about that attack command and I played the game many many times
@karl5175
2 жыл бұрын
one command thats quite comfortable is to make all your units follow your hero or any unit and attack/cast spells upon enemy contact i use is L-shift + R-mousebutton = it makes your units function like summons by following around and attacking enemies which is also handy while defending as units will return to your location upon defeating enemies
@madalinfilip6352
2 жыл бұрын
Once you select a unit Use the right mouse button to double tap on the avatar and the units will automatically follow the avatar
@plumcat4089
2 жыл бұрын
Also (L-shift + R-mouse + H) is very useful with mages and range units
@derbuhn
Жыл бұрын
I am flabbergasted… I stumbled upon my copy of spellforce today and thought “This was a pretty fun game. I wonder if anyone made any kind of video about it.” Now I am here and learned something new. Very well done!
@kubawoowio9989
2 жыл бұрын
I think there also should be a way to make production of your units faster, by building more army buildings. You know, these where you have to send a worker to work. The more there are, the faster your units appear.
@condoslime776
2 жыл бұрын
This is a thing in the game already.
@peppertheshober9730
Жыл бұрын
You can build several forges, and it goes faster
@kubawoowio9989
Жыл бұрын
@@peppertheshober9730 Yeah, i didn't know it at the time. Nether the less, thanks for advice
@przemek7028
2 жыл бұрын
Third tip is very useful, when you want to farm some xp you build a couple of towers and set some healers, and they could go into fight and die which is annoying, so you press h on them and all healers do is healing you, instead going into fight.
@plumcat4089
2 жыл бұрын
There is also... not a tip but rather a hack that allows you to spawn two titans of each race at the same time. But you need to have enough of resources to spawn one titan, complete the upgrade for this titan and spawn this titan one more time. 1) build two large headquarters of the same race; 2) start spawning a titan in one of the headquarters; 3) complete the upgrade for this titan in the second headquarters AND you can start spawning another titan in this building while the first titan is in its building. If one of this titans die or they die both but you have already started spawning at least one of them you can resurrect them again.
@plumcat4089
2 жыл бұрын
Also a fact about titans (and buildings): they have the same lvl as the Avatar. But for refreshing their level you have to kill them and spawn/build again xD
@osvaldocorreia5367
2 жыл бұрын
Also, the titans (and the mob units) don't despawn if you loose/disable the race monument. Great for those extra hard maps that get your base overrun by enemies from all corners and you might have to resort to only those units for a counter-attack.
@gagothesour
2 жыл бұрын
Love for good ol games is so nice to see.
@karl5175
2 жыл бұрын
also using ctrl + r mouse will select all units of same type within area + also if you use ctrl,shift + mouse button you can quickly select all units of 1 group and add them up, for example 10 recruits + 10 scouts etc
@madalinfilip6352
2 жыл бұрын
Or you can simply double tap with left mouse button on a unit and it will select all the units of that type
@alex18sb51
2 жыл бұрын
nice tips. Small correction for tip #2 if the units have attacked something on the way, they do not continue the rest of the way without having received another order. (at least this is the case for me)
@alex18sb51
2 жыл бұрын
@@Wormic interestig. But than theire is the question why... In last days i play 1.64 in coop with friends and there, the units attack enemies on their way, but than dont continiue theire way.... unfortunately
@Azoth86730
2 жыл бұрын
I think that's 1.61 issue since that wasn't the case in 1.54 as far as I can remember, gotta test.
@condoslime776
2 жыл бұрын
For me (1.54) units will move back to the spot where they first saw an enemy and then continue moving towards their selected location)
@alex18sb51
2 жыл бұрын
@@condoslime776 #common Mincraft Villager noises :) SF what are you doing with us.... XD
@LeonX4
2 жыл бұрын
wow, those troops control tips eluded me way too hard
@MrAsus4870
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know how to rotate building and didn't bother to check, but have i seen it i will use it, thanks
@plumcat4089
2 жыл бұрын
If you are in 3rd person view your main character can run without holding keys. 1) press "W" or ⬆️ key; 2) press "Esc" or Pause; 3) release "W" or ⬆️ key; 4) release "Esc" or Pause. And then your Avatar will keep running forward automatically and you can change the direction using keys or mouse. If you want to stop just press "S" or ⬇️.
@elismirnov8302
2 жыл бұрын
This is the game of my childhood, Probably spent tons of hours in it, done it all...played since 2004 and you are telling me I could rotate buildings...fml lol
@Dsonsee
2 жыл бұрын
It took me so long to find these things on my own back in the day
@jdurthu4304
2 жыл бұрын
I have been playing this game for like 10-11 years now, and I had no idea about the move and attack order haha! Great to know 🤣, it would have been so helpfull all those times
@condoslime776
2 жыл бұрын
Here are some good units to build for each race. Humans: marksmen, every single ranged unit in the game is very strong as they don't need to run around nearly as much before they can attack. Marksmen can be upgraded to shoot 2 enemies at once making them very strong Elves: rangers, wanderers, druids, rangers aren't that strong but with how easy it is to get wood, you can spam them very rapidly and a small army of them is a formidable defense. Wanderers are often overlooked due to their iceshield upgrade basically downgrading them. However if you don't get it, they are still considerably strong, dealing much higher damage than windarchers. Druids have aura of healing, pretty self-explanatory Dwarves: Defender Ranged unit when upgraded, nuff said orcs: Totem, firemaster, veteran Orcs are not my favorite, I think they are the weakest race in the game, a dense group of spellcasters can pack a punch though, veterans deal great damage for their cost (80 iron) Trolls, thrower, hurler, champion ranged units... Also champions are brutally strong melee units, they are very costly but worth it as they feel as strong as my warrior heroes, they also have +1 range meaning they can attack an enemy from 1 tile further away which is a pretty big deal. Darkelves: deathknight, warlock, havoc deathknights have aura of lifetap for constant small damage, warlocks have death for big damage and havocs summon wraiths constantly. They are pretty funny if you have a ton of them, filling the screen with pain casting wraiths which block the enemy from advancing.
@noreon8379
2 жыл бұрын
Great video Wormic! Been playing this game on and off for about 18 years and still did not know some of these ;D
@alexanderrahl7034
2 жыл бұрын
I have literally hundreds of hours in these games and had no idea about the hold, attack move or building rotating
@osvaldocorreia5367
2 жыл бұрын
You should make a video expanding the tips about useful shortcuts, like the one that make the unit(s) follow another or maybe even including some console commands like how to teleport... You know, a video gathering all that stuff. 😁😉
@madalinfilip6352
2 жыл бұрын
To teleport in the game you need to get closer to a bindstone and click on the stone and choose the place you want to go and click teleport
@osvaldocorreia5367
2 жыл бұрын
@@madalinfilip6352 actually l was thinking about the Application:TeleportAvatar(y,x) 😉
@Finalspartaner
2 жыл бұрын
Very good and helpful tips for beginners. Dang wished I knew about the Hold position mechanic earlier. The regen i noticed for myself. And gods know, I was really suprised out of my pants, when I saw you rotating the buildings in one of your videos.
@jhonylg4045
2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a Spellforce with Warlords Battlecry features in it...
@Tauretary
Жыл бұрын
I have been playing this game since ~2003 and I didn't know about 3 tips out of 5. You just blew my mind O_o Thanks!
@Animaster89
2 жыл бұрын
Theres often hidden stuff on the map put in places where you cant see it with your standard camare view. so i recommend to change it from a side to a top view here and there to see these
@KhoaNguyen-fs6to
2 жыл бұрын
The first and fifth one, I knew it for many years ago. The forth one, I used to know it but forgot it until now. For the second one, I don't know wherever their is some difference between it and Press A + left click. For the third one, I haven't known it until now. Thanks to you! Now, I can camp my Spell Caster with H button. They won't be useless anymore LOL.
@buca9696
10 ай бұрын
More food stores increase the speed at which your troops regenerate health and mana. Also, more training buildings increase the speed at which your units are made. For example humans have forges, temple of light, master armory, shooting rage and academy. If you build 4, 5 of each, the units which need those buildings will spawn much faster.
@skeletor2012
2 жыл бұрын
The attack move tip is an absolute game changer, never knew about it, gonna start playing sf right away, after watching your video, thanks.
@Marcin17lysy
2 ай бұрын
5 tips for 20+ years old game, priceless (game i loved) kekw
@user-rj5yr5qi9m
2 ай бұрын
Wow, I really didn't know about hold command, thanks for tip list!
@missfish4160
Жыл бұрын
Years ago, when I first picked up this game I was too impatient and didn't want to sit through the tutorial at the beginning. Today after watching your tips, I actually sat down and went through the tutorial and could not believe how many things I never knew from those statues at the end portion. Between your vids, the comments section here, and the tutorial, I can't believe how many useful things I didn't know. After all this time!
@condoslime776
2 жыл бұрын
Your hero moves slightly faster if you manually control them by zooming the camera all the way in. Trying to beat a group of enemies on your own but there are too many? Put yourself in a corner so you can't be completely surrounded. There's a nasty group of spellcasters in the way like the big blockade in the onyx bay? Send a couple single units in a row on them to waste all their mana before your big push. There's different damage types in the game. A sword doesn't work nearly as well on a skeleton compared to a mace. The notable defenses to look out for is a 50% cutting resistance on skeletons and a 80% general resistance on mummies, This cutting resistance makes dwarves surprisingly good against skeletons. Does the game feel too slow? Are you waiting to move your army to the other side of the map? Do you feel like cheating just a little bit? You can open the console with ctrl + ] and type AppSession:SetTimeMultiplier(x) where x is the speed you want the game to run at. 2 is double the speed.
@Schnitzelfox
2 жыл бұрын
I would love a video about the free game in Spellforce 1
@Azoth86730
2 жыл бұрын
Yup, SotP FGM mini campaign is actually great, serving as sorta prequel to the events of SF2 SW as well as hinting at the future plot threads such as the coming of the Shadows of SW with Nazshar, the Snake of Dragh'Lur, summoning them to Eo, The Red God of SW FGM with the Song of the Betrayer as prophesied by Angar Arandir as in one of the Guardians going rogue, which would delay the Guardians' reaction to the Shadow ritual itself, and Portal Crisis of DS with the malfunctioning Portal of Arundale and the Portal Mage of the Order inspecting it, as well as other important misc lore like Nightsong being Half-Blood first mentioned here, Nazshar being killed by Craig before, info regarding the female Norcaine, Toth Lar appearing here before he was appointed the High Archon, Angar Arandir having passed away in Lordraine while writing the last verse of the Eternal Song, the Song of the Betrayer, Rohen teaching the Portal magic to only a select few among the Order, Nazshar actually being Nor fanatic and despises Zarach as he reveals his intentions when you decide to kill Nightsong etc.
@TheSuperColonel
2 жыл бұрын
Using multiple manned forges and food stores speeds up unit production and unit regeneration. Food stores might work differently in certain game versions. You can repair buildings by right-clicking cost resources but much less and does not cost rare resources like aira,lenya. Unit research/upgrade only applies to units made after the research was completed, unlike most other RTS games. Upgrading rune worker levels, checking levels before activating monuments. Your avatar moves about 25% faster while in ego mode than in RTS mode. Attacks and other speeds are capped at 200%. In the latest version at least it seems a stat buff can not increase your current/geared stat by more than 100%. So current with gear 82 str can only be buffed up to 164 str. Only relevant to high-level boons users or high charisma mid-LVL booners.
@Shamoart
11 ай бұрын
I've been playing this game on and off ever since it came out and i didn't know about the movement/attack commands or the buildings rotation. xD Quality of life just improved a lot.
@poklours4257
10 ай бұрын
oh my god... i just finished Spellforce 1 completely after 4 years of playing it on and off. This would have been SO useful to know beforehand T_T The game is really terrible at giving information. Lesson learned, I'll look for tips like these before Spellforce 2 this time.
@Animaster89
2 жыл бұрын
About the food thing. I remember reading in some old forums that the more of the foodstore building you have the faster the regen is. Not shure if its true though
@funkytroll7999
2 жыл бұрын
ive tested it and yes it works, not sure for how many of food stores tho
@Logan_97
2 жыл бұрын
More foodstores = faster Reg. It's linear. 1 Fs = 100% healing speed 2 FS = 200% healing speed 3 FS = 300% healing speed When U gathered an huge amount off Ressources, at least that much, u could restore ur army completely, focus on food production and get enough fs out of this. Before near all of ur workers are food slaves, make sure, as stated in the video, that u also build much unit production buildings. In most cases there r 2 buildings, 1 for fighter's and on for magicians (just the trolls got just one). It has to be those buildings, which require a a worker. When ur army is about to die or already dead, give ur workers the required Job, to rebuild an army. Just make sure u could switch to the "extreme" modes of gathering, healing or producing fighters fast. The more races u play, the better it is, when fully build up.
@obba40
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh the rotating i need that
@mcsmash4905
2 жыл бұрын
a great but somewhat clunky game , but yeah casters running into melee was always annoying but it turned me into a micro god in the process lol
@SCARaw
Жыл бұрын
thanks
@madalinfilip6352
2 жыл бұрын
Aonir Light friend Can you make a video about the demigod Belial
@Azoth86730
2 жыл бұрын
Ah, the inventor of Necromancy, Zarach's sidekick.
@Necrospire
2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow a new post
@vorpalkickass8825
2 жыл бұрын
New people are picking spellforce up? Well damn, that is neat!
@defcascos
2 жыл бұрын
OMG there is fucking attack move in this game!!!!?¿?!
@madalinfilip6352
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah ironically don't you think Even I didn't knew about that attack command and I played Spellforce many many times
@Cookiecorn-xw7bf
Жыл бұрын
How do you play in full screen, i have 2 big black strips on the sides of the screen.
@Pavel-Geleznov
Ай бұрын
super-duper-ultra damage build is black magic plus elemental magic
@Populous3Tutorials
Жыл бұрын
i have the CD but no more drive, and idk a place to download it :/
@Peniebel93
2 жыл бұрын
all pure mages are better with 3 skill trees . one of them has to be mental magic on 12 for meditation
@rikuran7042
2 жыл бұрын
Hint 3 is a game changer. Magic and healing units are far worse without it. Also about hint 5: More food storages means faster/more regenaration. (Also important for using healing and magic units) You can also speed up the spawn rate of a unit by building more buildings that they require (but only those where you need workers/be manned) If you build 5 onyx towers (Darkelves) then your sorcerer and warlock will spawn faster. (Rune power is also an important factor)
@osvaldocorreia5367
2 жыл бұрын
I just wish the troll buildings were smaller... When space allows, I spam the area with mace carvers and get my awesome troll army ready in no time. 😁👌
@plumcat4089
2 жыл бұрын
@@osvaldocorreia5367 He-he. Some troll buildings are really small xD
@dermenore7162
Жыл бұрын
It would have been so much better for me to know all of that before playing again to Spellforce 1. I don't count the number of times that I rage at my mages and healer for rushing melee like idiots or being sad that I can't rotate my resource building to optimize resource gains. This brings me to a question: do these control keys work in Spellforce 2?
@dermenore7162
Жыл бұрын
@@Wormic Thanks, I will if it's needed and look for that. It helps that in Spellforce 2 mage's staff work at range.
@Michael-xl4ur
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, i recently tried to play again but have a bug where my framerate drops hard when i move my mouse, any clue on how to fix that? I tried changing resolution, fullscreen/windowed mode ect, and competability mode but nothing worked.
@Michael-xl4ur
2 жыл бұрын
@@Wormic cheers, gonna try that
@tenseler439
2 жыл бұрын
Noice video
@homiczua8731
Жыл бұрын
i play this game so long :D even now i knowthis tips and another ones :D but i have my own style of play this game :D
@Drewer
3 ай бұрын
i miss orginal spell force, how could this bright mechanics downgrade so much in ver 2 and 3
@equilibrium138
2 жыл бұрын
Gods. Damn. Me. I could rotate gods damn buildings... Ffff... Like, i bought the game just to build towns and walk their streets with my char, that's it And i didn't f knew about rotating... my life is a lost cause now.
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