Another good example: The Others. You think its about a mother and her 2 children being haunted... But in the end its revealed the mother killed her children and herself out of grief many years before the start of the movie and the "ghosts" they see are in fact humans living in their house and the protagonists are the real ghosts.
@gozerthegozarian9500
3 жыл бұрын
Nicole Kidman was awesome in that movie!
@shaebubblegum3212
3 жыл бұрын
Yess will always be a classic
@bigmandennis9121
3 жыл бұрын
I was just about to mention that
@Libertys_Son
3 жыл бұрын
I loved Katlyn Stark in that movie
@hayden7512
3 жыл бұрын
protagonist doesn’t mean good guy, just main character. Nicole Kidman was still the protagonist.
@TititoDeBologay
2 жыл бұрын
The real villain in The Lodge is the father. Who in their right mind put a cult survivor and trauma ridden children, for their first time meeting, in a remote lodge for days.
@firstloveacrossthesea5835
2 жыл бұрын
Also didn’t their mother committed suicide 3 months before that?
@noir853
2 жыл бұрын
and he got what's coming for him, and also those tiny devils got what they deserved
@dawnatkinson7704
2 жыл бұрын
Her psychiatrist apparently!
@Petaurista13
2 жыл бұрын
@@firstloveacrossthesea5835 so we have healing cult survivor and kids in grief put alone in the remote cabin for days. If it was experiment Ethics Commission won't allow it
@latayesha
2 жыл бұрын
@@noir853 They're just stupid kids. They wanted the woman to leave not go on a murderous rampage!
@gabrielafonseca4034
3 жыл бұрын
The real villain in The Lodge in my opinion is the selfish dad who's so impatient to move on with his new girlfriend that he's completely neglecting his children's loss and need to mourn their mother. This theme is also explored in the directors' previous movie Goodnight Mommy, which also ends eerily, with a song
@ChildOfChaos07
2 жыл бұрын
But it's unfair of those brats to blame her. It wasn't her fault. And where's the loathing/resentment for the mother who, quite effectively, abandoned her children by taking her own life? The only victim in The Lodge is the douchebag father's new girl. Fuck that dude and fuck them kids.
@fiofiofioletta1898
2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. YES.
@alessandrajackson3768
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Not to mention the girlfriend was one of his patients he cheated on his wife with, who also committed suicide
@kyleejohnson5776
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not defending anything because I never had a chance to watch the movie, only read about it, but I will say that manipulating the situation and hitting her weak spots (being in a religious cult and being the only survivor of a mass suicide) was not the way to go about expressing their displeasure. Yes, the kids had every right to mourn their mother and yes, the father was selfish in wanting his kids to instantly bond with their new stepmother, but I don't think it warranted torturing her psychologically and throwing her thousands of paces back mentally. From what I've read, they played religious music, hid her medication, caused the death of her dog by letting it outside in the snow and not even having the sense to let it back in and just hide it from the stepmother in the house, and convincing her that they were all dead and in Purgatory until they confessed their sins all to avenge their mother. Those were all premeditated and came from two kids who should have known better and they did know better because I believe I read that they knew what her trauma was from being in that cult as a child and they exploited it anyway. All of their actions were wrong, but the only truly direct deaths (the dog, their father, and presumably themselves and the stepmom at the end) resulted from the kids' actions, so I think people have just as much of an opinion to think the kids were the true villains of the film and not just the dad or the stepmom.
@gabrielafonseca4034
2 жыл бұрын
@@alessandrajackson3768 no, he's a journalist and interviewed her for one of his books on cults ☺️
@Tyler2k
3 жыл бұрын
"Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon" was awesome, shame it's so polarizing. I like how it double plays on *other* tropes as well, not just making you root for Leslie.
@fiofiofioletta1898
3 жыл бұрын
It’s a good movie. The only objection I have is it’s a total ripoff of Man Bites Dog…albeit not nearly as extreme.
@stereozac7080
3 жыл бұрын
I agree a great movie.
@ClockworkEngineer
3 жыл бұрын
It's goddam brilliant.
@pateris
3 жыл бұрын
@@fiofiofioletta1898 I'd say it's inspired, but even if MBD is better, calling it a rip-off would be a stretch…
@fiofiofioletta1898
3 жыл бұрын
@@pateris Man Bites Dog: a serial killer inviting film crew in real time as he’s cheerfully committing his crimes. Difference? The twist that the film crew slowly become his accomplices and then full on criminals. Leslie Vernon is a lot softer. MBD gets its point about reality shows-before it was even a popular thing-with a sledge hammer. Leslie Vernon is cute. A far friendlier version, but MBD had the idea first, didn’t pull any punches and never gets credit. Admittedly, part of the reason this bothers me is the director killed himself and pretty much died in obscurity…in 2006. Same year Leslie Vernon was made. Probably a coincidence, but MDB was brilliant. Leslie Vernon is entertaining-which is great, I own both…but credit needs to be given.
@0megacron
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like "Tucker & Dale Vs. Evil" should have gotten some kind of mention here. The poor guys may not be the actual villains of the movie, but the teens certainly _think_ of 'em that way for most of the movie.
@ceilinh6004
3 жыл бұрын
Nah. This list is movies that trick you into rooting for the villain. There is a villain in that movie, but it isn't Tucker & Dale, and no one roots for them.
@LadyVoldemort
3 жыл бұрын
@@ceilinh6004 Yup. We all root for Tucker and Dale, the obvious good guys in the story...
@jamesmckane1205
3 жыл бұрын
Best comedy horror movie of all time 🤣🤣🤣
@richieb7692
3 жыл бұрын
Tucker and Dale is a Fantastic film. Each death gets a cheer, and ranked. The Best one involves the woodchipper...
@jamesmckane1205
3 жыл бұрын
@@richieb7692 Yes, the woodchipper is number one 🤣🤣
@subjectdelta4758
3 жыл бұрын
There’s also in Jigsaw (2017) where we root for Anna where then Jigsaw reveals that Anna was the one who killed her own baby then framed her husband (who later on killed himself out of guilt).
@amberlee656
3 жыл бұрын
I was never going to watch it because fuck those movies, they're bad, so thank you.
@chili015
3 жыл бұрын
Except that a) Each of Jigsaw's victims always had something bad about them, so we knew Anna was never innocent even from the start and b) The new Jigsaw killer was the villain of the film, Anna was just a sub-character from flashbacks.
@kazz6884
3 жыл бұрын
yeah,I was really hoping for Anna too make it out of the traps,but as soon as I saw that she suffocated her own baby too death - I actually shouted “go fuck yourself”
@ichigoeater
3 жыл бұрын
@@chili015 I would disagree with your first point. A lot of the 'bad' things Kramer and his crew take his victims for are just plain stupid. "Oh, you tried to commit suicide, here's a death trap for you to appreciate life more". "Oh, you're traumatized about a loved one's death, time to die now."
@adamarzo559
3 жыл бұрын
@@amberlee656 Why would this information be relevant to you in the slightest if you don't like the movies, think they're bad and have no plans to watch them?
@nyllabrasileiro7044
3 жыл бұрын
The mortuary collection was a fresh surprise and no one talks about. Glad it is on this list.
@julz3tt3
3 жыл бұрын
Very true I enjoyed that twist
@SexyButCurious
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I watched it on shudder a few months ago despite knowing about it for 15yrs. It's definitely great!
@professorplum3858
3 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of Trick'r'Treat. When it first came out it was a great film that people weren't talking about... yet. In time it will undoubtedly be a classic.
@jaydiaz8666
3 жыл бұрын
i love it. always been an avid fan of short stories.
@elisejackson2854
3 жыл бұрын
@@professorplum3858 i loved it! It was amazing.
@denniswijker7162
3 жыл бұрын
What Lies Beneath is also a great example of this! You fully think Harrison Ford's character is the good guy until the last part of the movie where the truth is revealed.
@recht_voor_zijn_raap5506
3 жыл бұрын
Good example and awesome movie. Another good example: The Others. You think its about a mother and her 2 children being haunted... But in the end its revealed the mother killed her children and herself out of grief many years before the start of the movie and the "ghosts" they see are in fact humans living in their house and the protagonists are the real ghosts.
@Bartrim
2 жыл бұрын
I remember being at my girlfriends place years ago watching this for the first time and her flatmate came back from dinner with her boyfriend. They ask what we are watching and after we tell them and her flat mates boyfriend says it’s so cool how … and proceeds to blurt out the ending.
@magiavw7503
2 жыл бұрын
@@Bartrim Was he not slapped or dumped? You didn't say.
@PumpkinHoard
2 жыл бұрын
@@Bartrim Lol. One of my mates went to see Minority Report in the cinema with a few friends, one of whom had already seen the movie. Halfway through the movie said friend stood up and shouted "The old man did it!" and ruined the movie for a couple of hundred people, including those he went with. Later my friend that had told me of how Minority Report had been ruined for him in the cinema came over my house and saw that my brother was watching it on DVD. For a joke, he said "The old man did it." He had assumed my brother had seen it before. My brother had not seen it before lol.
@rzrhed8728
2 жыл бұрын
I'm feeling a part 2 to this video! A lot of good suggestions in the comment.
@stephencrabtree4256
3 жыл бұрын
I’d include “May” on this list. You sympathize with and pity May, even as she turns into a brutal, obsessive murderer.
@fiofiofioletta1898
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. That movie broke my soul.
@SexyButCurious
3 жыл бұрын
Agree. I remember rooting for her
@daydreams6956
2 жыл бұрын
agreed
@gerdsfargen6687
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the movie was sewed up.
@indiatastic
2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely ADORE that movie! Nice pick!
@TOFTS77
3 жыл бұрын
Your a bit off about Behind the Mask. Lesie isn't a random guy obsessed with horror films, in the world of the movie he reveals that those scary movies are based on actual killers. His mentor is hinted at being the inspiration for Leatherface. Throughout the film he explains the theatrics and pageantry behind what they do. They even give a philosophical motive as the evil the represents ensures good will flourish in response. Its pretty deep and sad we didn't get the sequel to expand the world building.
@GrandSpiff
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was listening to his whole bit about Leslie and was like “ummm did we watch the same movie?” The idea of him being daft? I mean… where? Energetic and likable… but not daft. Was a really weird take.
@BigRedShadevil
2 жыл бұрын
I just watched this movie a couple of days ago because I heard about it on this video. We know from the beginning he’s the bad guy and his killing traps work. The twist isn’t about him, but the survivor girl
@MJBiddy1
3 жыл бұрын
Some misunderstanding about ‘Behind the Mask’ here - it’s a world where the other serial killers like Michael, are real people he aspires to not just movies.
@manda533
3 жыл бұрын
I went looking for this comment ❤️
@Petaurista13
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. He literally meet with ex-serial killer.
@MJBiddy1
2 жыл бұрын
@@Petaurista13 who is, I think, meant to be Billy from OG Black Christmas.
@tommyboi161
3 жыл бұрын
The Uninvited was also a great one. Emily Browning played that character so well and the story was very compelling
@rmusic08
3 жыл бұрын
If you're gonna say the uninvited youd have to include the original, a tale of two sisters
@Rzo139
2 жыл бұрын
@@rmusic08 Meh. A good portion of those films are all the same - main character is dead the whole time, the friend was a ghost the whole time, or at least someone has been dead the whole time. Nothing is surprising. Very predictable.
@latayesha
2 жыл бұрын
@@Rzo139 The original did it first and better tho. So give it some points
@latayesha
2 жыл бұрын
Also I personally hated the invited Remake, was very dumb and non scary. Also the ending was very pointless
@La-PetitMort
2 жыл бұрын
@@Rzo139 In this case the original outshines the remake.
@daniboy018
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the remake of MBV's real twist was that Tom's trauma with Harry Warden truly cracked his mind. Like Norman before him, he was a charming and broken hero with dissociative identity disorder. Jensen Ackles does a solid job being Tom and being the unmasked Miner.
@Cthulhuquatch
3 жыл бұрын
Got a cool kid here
@16shogunelitegreen
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i prefer the original. I never liked 2009's Axel and I wanted it to be him but I was disappointed. I watched the original afterwards and the reveal was MUCH better
@daniboy018
2 жыл бұрын
@@16shogunelitegreen We're all guilty of confirmation bias from time to time.
@metalbrock57
2 жыл бұрын
High Tension definitely fits here. The protagonist you are rooting for is actually the killer, but she is so delusional that the “killer” on the screen for much of the movie was a figment of her deranged mind the entire time.
@nickmessner700
7 ай бұрын
Total mindfuck of a movie.
@MrJerichoPumpkin
7 ай бұрын
@@nickmessner700 yeah, it's a total mindfuck how that wreck survives a single vision. It simply does not work.
@TheThird1977
3 жыл бұрын
"Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon" is a masterpiece in both deconstructing the prototypical slasher and BEING a prototypical slasher for the final act. One of the most underrated tricks it pulls off is the switch from documentary footage-style shooting to proper movie shooting while doing so in an on-screen and logical fashion. EDIT - Josh may have missed part of what also makes "Behind the Mask" a great story. Leslie DOES worship the glories of Michael, Jason, and Freddy, but to say he then transfers that to "real life" is overlooking a major part of this film's canon; Michael Myers, Freddy Krueger, Jason Voorhees, etc, all exist in real life and Leslie Vernon is trying to join their ranks, not emulate them.
@direblade1437
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this! There's also a little Easter egg when he takes the film crew to meet his mentor. The "Lament Configuration", which is the device that summons cenobites in the Hellraiser series, is a display piece in their living room. Makes one think that whole 'world' exists in this film, too. I'd add, as well, that Josh says Leslie is comically bad at being a killer. I don't think so. He seems exceptionally good at it, as shown in the final act. I think maybe the misunderstanding comes from how disarming and charming Leslie is up until that point.
@betunaf8008
2 жыл бұрын
@@direblade1437 came for this. He was good at it, learning from another master. But it wasn't until "reality" hit that we understand the depths of what he's planning on doing. Until then, he's a nut job, but a charming nut job.
@athammackinaw3082
3 жыл бұрын
Just a bit off of true horror, but "The Voices", with Ryan Reynolds, is very good at getting the audience sympathizing with a killer.
@julz3tt3
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Ryan Reynolds can play that character well
@briansullivan5908
3 жыл бұрын
A house full of rotting bodies in Tupperware is pretty much horror.
@fiofiofioletta1898
3 жыл бұрын
Great black comedy.
@manuelsommerfeld3495
3 жыл бұрын
Well it is Ryan Reynolds...so even if he is a killer I would like him
@greglane334
3 жыл бұрын
That's still my favorite movie of his
@steven-i6j
3 жыл бұрын
I problem with US is that it has a huge plot hole that no one ever calls out. The doppelganger remember and do's everything the original do's. So when they switched as kids how come the doppelganger had free will after the switch the doppelganger would still do the same things and remember the same things as the original.
@Petaurista13
2 жыл бұрын
yes. It's like after escaping the gain free will which leads us to the question: why he don't earlier. Is the mirror magical or some fuck?
@eddiejc1
2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, the husband mentioned that his wife was traumatized as a child as an incident and had to go into therapy. The therapists thought they were helping the original girl when in truth they were helping her doppleganger make the transition to appear to be a normal human.
@steven-i6j
2 жыл бұрын
@@eddiejc1 I understand and get all that but the doppelganger can still only do and remember what the original do's.so while the original was in underground rooms all them years how was the doppelganger able to have a normal life not remember anything about the original undergrounds memories? and the doppelgangers experience everything the happens to the original and what they do, how are they still alive after killing there own originals?
@whogivesashit9126
2 жыл бұрын
@@steven-i6j lol no. Literally red says “ I believe” then she rants about the government and how the tethered work. But the government stuff is all just what she thinks
@otakukaku
2 жыл бұрын
It is a cool and atmospheric movie. However, there are so many things that stretch the suspension of disbelief beyond the breaking point. * This program has been going on for decades with children that match the originals as well that are the same age. That means once the government discovers that an original is pregnant, they have to future an impregnation between the two copies that match and hope that resulting child is ALSO a copy of the original aboveground. This seems to be going on long after the government abandoned their initial cloning program. * How the hell was the government able pull off the logistics are cloning, feeding, raising, and housing Tethered from everyone in America, all 300 million citizens. * Considering how violent they were, how did they survive so well after abandonment. * You touched upon knowledge the doppelgangers had of the originals. The film tries to handwave this as the bodies were connected via the originals' souls, hence the term Tethered. However, that comes off as a lazy handwave. The list goes on until it leaves the realm of science fiction and enters magical. If they had merely said that the Tethered were from some dark parallel universe that wanted the freedom that this universe provided and that is where there was a twisted version of everyone like I assumed from the trailer, I would have completely bought it and looked back more fondly on the film. Knowing what I know now, the only reason to watch or re-watch is for the outstanding performances of the actors and not the actual plot/twist.
@darrenlee9179
3 жыл бұрын
Sleepaway camp would have been another good one to include! Great list though 👍
@jamespope7669
3 жыл бұрын
No it wouldn't. Angela's background wasn't the main focus of the movie, all was revealed only at the end.
@darrenlee9179
3 жыл бұрын
@@jamespope7669 but you were rooting for her not to be killed off until the end when the truth came to light, that's how I felt anyway :p I figured she would be the final girl 🤣 obviously not rooting for her in the follow ups
@ichigoeater
3 жыл бұрын
@@jamespope7669 Her background doesn't have much to do with it. We were rooting for her to survive a serial killer, and it then turned out, in a shocking twist that maybe could've done with more forshadowing, that she was the serial killer all along, so she's tailor made for this list.
@daydreams6956
2 жыл бұрын
@@jamespope7669 yes it would, everyone rooted for her to survive until the reveal.
@ThingCalledFate
3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Krabs was great as the creepy mortician. I wouldn't mind a backstory. Also, will we ever get a sequel to Leslie Vernon with the original cast?
@amandadaley4182
3 жыл бұрын
I remember another movie called Valentine staring guy who played Angel in Buffy and he ended up being the killer in the end as well. I'm not 100% sure of how the movie went anymore as I saw it more than a decade ago. It was a decent horror movie that came out in the early 2000s as well.
@stefaniastyles7929
2 жыл бұрын
david boreanaz i love him shhhhhh
@amandadaley4182
2 жыл бұрын
@@stefaniastyles7929 lol o couldn't remember his last name but yes David. Valentine was a pretty cheezy horror movie but it was still pretty good from what I could remember anyways.
@stefaniastyles7929
2 жыл бұрын
@@amandadaley4182 i am watching it right now because of you lmfao and because i love david boreanaz
@jonnymankin
2 жыл бұрын
Love this movie. I watch it every Valentines.
@thenoseplays2488
2 жыл бұрын
I've never wanted a character to die as bad as the female doctor in deep blue sea. The fact that they literally changed the script after early viewings to accommodate this makes me smile Everytime I think do that movie.
@christianc.christian5025
2 жыл бұрын
Being pretty only makes up for so much… She wasn’t just horrendously negligent, she also conceals this from everyone and then works to “rescue” one of the sharks during the first, major crisis, which gives rise to the rest of the plot.
@Chuck_EL
6 ай бұрын
Especially after they killed off Samuel L Jackson and they gave her a pretty brutal death
@irina1296
3 жыл бұрын
I think A Perfect Getaway with Milla Jovovich and Steve Zahn would be a great choice for this title. Even though it's more like a Thriller
@jamespruitt9400
3 жыл бұрын
A Perfect Getaway is an awesome film. I own it on DVD. 📀
@derrickhaggard
3 жыл бұрын
Same here and the twist concerning Milla Jovovich, and Steve Zahn's characters is a great one.
@LadyVoldemort
3 жыл бұрын
I thought this would be here. I don't really like that movie (the twist felt like a stretch to me, like the moviemakers tried to tricked the viewers for "ooh aah wow didn't see that coming" back then) but I only watched it once over a decade ago, maybe a rewatch will change my mind though.
@briansullivan5908
3 жыл бұрын
Good choice
@TheTeethgrinder
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed 💯 Timothy Olyphant is brilliant in this
@laurenralph5968
3 жыл бұрын
All the boys love Mandy Lane legit got me I never thought Mandy was the one behind any of the killings till the end they creators did a very well done job hiding it till very end
@fiofiofioletta1898
3 жыл бұрын
And she got all of them out of the way so she could be with the hot ranch hand, lol
@laurenralph5968
3 жыл бұрын
@@fiofiofioletta1898 she sure did 🤣🤣🤣
@brittneyherrera627
2 жыл бұрын
Fitting for her.
@ItsMeFreemanCooper
Ай бұрын
@@brittneyherrera627 And, how fitting that Pirates showed who the real Depp is: a drunkard abuser.
@TheGothicNinja000
3 жыл бұрын
High Tension should be on this list. This channel seems to always overlook this fantastic horror movie, though.
@donwhiteley3293
3 жыл бұрын
As a fan of Dean Koontz I can't stand High Tension. The first half of the movie straight rips off the early chapters of his novel Intensity. It's a scene for scene copy and paste.
@CasualGamingDad84
2 жыл бұрын
Frailty is a good one as well if you've never seen it. Bill Paxton is one of the main characters in it. Go check it out.
@kato5569
Жыл бұрын
Love that Movie, one of my all time Fav, very much underrated
@stephanieyowell1233
3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to add Frailty to this list! It’s an old one but so good!!
@indiatastic
2 жыл бұрын
i love that lil flick.
@TheTaintedWisdom
Жыл бұрын
Triangle (2009) fits this description. It's a damn good flick and If anyone wants to check it out, it's available for free with ads on KZitem.
@kato5569
Жыл бұрын
Great Film, also Underrated
@victorfrankenstein23
2 жыл бұрын
Incase people wanted to watch these films without being spoiled, and didn't know they existed, here is the list below. - The mortuary collection - My bloody Valentine 3d - The Lodge - Shutter - US - Leatherface - All the boys love Mandy Lane - Behind the mask, the rise of Leslie Vernon Other good ones I've been told about: - The Others - Tucker & Dale vs Evil - May - What Lies Beneath - A Perfect Getaway - The Voices - Gone Girl....(although it's not really horror.)
@MJW238
2 жыл бұрын
Better Watch Out is another clever horror/Christmas movie with a similar type twist.
@taniadiaz4090
2 жыл бұрын
Was looking for this. Thanks ❤️
@monsterenergypunk
3 жыл бұрын
One hiccup on the "Leslie Vernon" film is that he isn't a "fan of horror films" -- the slashers are real people. His mentor, Eugene, is even believed to be Billy Lenz in a new identity (more of a fan theory, but still a valid one, since the actors are the same).
@CaryGordon3k
3 жыл бұрын
Totally what I was going to point out. The movie is set in a universe where all the killers are real and "Leslie Vernon" is just getting started in his attempt to join their ranks.
@CurtRogers
3 жыл бұрын
Which actors are the same? Also, it's not a fan theory, it was stated by the writers on a podcast around a decade ago
@monsterenergypunk
3 жыл бұрын
@@CurtRogers The man who plays Eugene also played Billy Lenz in "Black Christmas" back in '75 (i think)
@monsterenergypunk
3 жыл бұрын
@@CurtRogers Also THANKS FOR THE INFO !!
@TheHolt100
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like that’s a bad description of behind that mask. It’s a good movie like they said. But Leslie isn’t bad at being a killer or a horror Junkie. It’s a world where the movie slashers are real but not mystical.
@davidspetz9850
3 жыл бұрын
I was going to say the same thing. Leslie was actually a pretty good serial killer. He had all of his kills planned, did tons of prep work, found the right final girl. The whole nine yards. He is also just a really goofy, likeable guy sharing his passion with a documentary crew. His passion is just slasher flick murder, is all.
@Parker8752
3 жыл бұрын
@@davidspetz9850 Best of all, his plan worked. He led his final girl right where he said he would, and faked his death exactly how he said he would.
@jarrodoakley6911
2 жыл бұрын
I posted that too. This makes it look like he was a hilarious loser. He was actually shockingly gifted. Constantly catches everyone by surprise. It really seems like the writer heard of the movies’ status and read a quick write-up on it rather than watch the movie itself
@northnick3317
3 жыл бұрын
Anybody remember "Better Watch Out" from 2016?
@Lunyoo
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I actually wrote that too !.
@jeraldmacklinii6440
3 жыл бұрын
Pelle from Midsomner should been added onto this list.
@kermitbros2743
3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest, for as much hate as it gets, fantasy island works in this category, it was also my introduction to the genre and it worked in getting me hooked
@nicknelson1915
3 жыл бұрын
True, I hated the movie but I was shocked with who was behind it all!
@bulbafett5001
2 жыл бұрын
Little Clarity on Leslie Vernon, it's set in a world where Slashers like Jason, Freddy, Myers, etc exist in. His mentor is supposed to be the guy from Black Christmas
@serenastrobel6160
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you THANK YOU for including Shutter! Such an underrated horror flick.
@jameswayne2907
2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching my bloody valentine back then as a child way past my allowed bedtime because i recognized the protagonist from Super Natural. That plottwist made me fall in love with that kind of genre.
@DJGamingSmash
3 жыл бұрын
#1: Behind The Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon #2: All The Boys Love Mandy Lane #3: Leatherface #4: Us #5: Shutter #6: The Lodge #7: My Bloody Valentine 3D #8: The Mortuary Collection There, saved you from spoilers for those who have not watched.
@kkarx
3 жыл бұрын
The entire list is a spoiler. :=)
@SuperYxskaft
3 жыл бұрын
Althought good intentions, kinda hilarious if you really think this list is safe from spoilers.
@alyssaheubel
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks I was looking for this!
@SuperYxskaft
3 жыл бұрын
@Thomas Sylvester Hmm, yeah, when I think more then a second on it your actually totally right.
@surpbois9877
2 жыл бұрын
Thx 👍
@jarrodoakley6911
2 жыл бұрын
Leslie Vernon was useless? It shows with everything he does that he’s extremely gifted at playing this role. Yes he’s affable and dorky, but when they go to meet him he shows how he can move so quick that it almost seems like he’s in two places at once. He knows anatomy and slight of hand, he’s an impossible gymnast. He’s studied and determined. It very quickly freaks out the camera crew in how surprisingly in control of the situation he is. He’s no where near the loser described here
@thedevilsrockstxr2309
2 жыл бұрын
And yet gets killed on his first spree lol, all for nothing, kinda useless
@jarrodoakley6911
2 жыл бұрын
@@thedevilsrockstxr2309 wasn’t killed. Did you watch the movie?
@unkindestcut
2 жыл бұрын
@@thedevilsrockstxr2309 So did Michael Myers. Repeatedly. And he keeps coming back- that’s the trope.
@randall-thehorrorwriter
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think this dude has ever seen "Behind the Mask". He called Leslie inept but that dude was on top of every part of the plan. And he mentioned him wanting to be as big a Freddy, Jason and Michael so he created a scenario in the real world. NO because in the movie that is their real world, Freddy Michael and Jason are real in this Universe. Whom ever is writing the scripts for these may want to actually watch the movies instead of what ever they are doing, they have a lot of mistakes about things in these videos and don't get me started on their obvious mispronunciation of well known people's names...you can google how to say them for fooks sake. Anyway love the channel thanks for the content.
@FriendlyNeighborhoodUnclePete
3 жыл бұрын
Most of the people who narate these scripts have never watched the movies, they only read what others wright for them. They're wrong way more often. The writers probably don't watch the whole movie, a whole lot of copy and paste going on.
@shoesncheese
3 жыл бұрын
Word.
@SomewhatSlightlyBored
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think the mispronunciations are on purpose at this point. Everyone pointing them out gets their comment numbers higher.
@ashleysmith4522
3 жыл бұрын
Behind the mask was actually taking place as though Freddy, Jason Micheal Myers were all real people not movie characters.
@Xboxcampking334
3 жыл бұрын
The lodge had me shook i did not expect that ending at all
@tjfrizzi5965
3 жыл бұрын
I feel the dude in My Bloody Valentine 3D wasn't a total villain. His so called friends left him at the mercy of the killer at the beginning and took off. Who deserved what... is an issue! haha
@nicknelson1915
3 жыл бұрын
In fairness to them they only drove away when the killer attacked them, if they had stayed they'd have died.
@evilraskel5569
3 жыл бұрын
I agree totally i was rooting for "Dean " the whole time and was hoping the sheriff would die and Tom would get the girl, but he's still alive and get his revenge on the sheriff . Lol 😆
@briansullivan5908
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but cowardice isn’t really a good excuse for execution by pick ax. In non war civilian populations the sentence is usually spreading story Of cowardice and social shunning
@jose9593
Жыл бұрын
Gone Girl, Primal Fear. I know they are not horror movies, but damn, i was tricked into believe in the innocence of the main characters.
@Lissandale
3 жыл бұрын
Tricked?! Half the time I root for the villain anyway. I LOVE a great villain. In many horror movies the Villain is the best part of the show.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
2 жыл бұрын
Me too especially if the villain was a product of an exploited bad luck like Carrie
@jaydiaz8666
3 жыл бұрын
i feel like you got leslie vernon all wrong. in that world freddie, jason, chuckie and all that are real. watch it again.
@tjfrizzi5965
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was thinking the same thing. But then I realized WhatCutureHorror is just trying to fit the movie into this video by changing the narrative. Of course that only works with people who haven't actually watched the movie. Still I give them credit for working it into this... lol
@michaelbiscay9836
2 жыл бұрын
The twist of Mandy Lane seeming innocent but turning out to be the killer is made so much better because the part is played by Amber Heard.
@teeth_denier
2 жыл бұрын
Got damn
@squishyfishy6010
2 жыл бұрын
LOL yeesh
@darktheories1758
2 жыл бұрын
no, That's what makes it impossible. Everyone loves Mandy Lane more like No one Loves Mandy Lane, she who shiteth the bed.
@sebv140
Жыл бұрын
Grow up
@johnsonter1358
Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was going to say but better.😆👏👍
@wymanbarber
Жыл бұрын
“The Wailing” had me thinking the devil was innocent right up until the end. Because you really can’t tell until the final reveal. It really messed me up for a bit.
@pateris
3 жыл бұрын
Shutter's reveal was absolutely great…
@seapeoplesdidnothingwrong1307
Жыл бұрын
Behind the mask is so underrated. It is a must watch if you are a horror fan. My favorite part is and revealing all the tricks of the trade like using blood squibs and replacing the victims bullets with blanks while they are away.
@galogiha
2 жыл бұрын
High Tension and Frailty would've been a perfect fit for this list.
@zero1226
3 жыл бұрын
Leslie Vernon isn't a horror movie fan, in his world chucky, freddy, jason all the classic horror movie killers are real and he wants to be like them
@andrewcook2625
3 жыл бұрын
also what was that whole terrible at being a slasher villain Leslie is amazing at it
@TheDeconstructivist
2 жыл бұрын
...but Leslie Vernon was actually really good at what he did. He was playful because he loved his work, but definitely not daft.
@justdrew312
3 жыл бұрын
Love how there's 2 pictures from Jennifer's Body, and that movie didn't make the list 🤔
@drstrangelove307
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Cabin in the Woods should be in here. The teens aren’t bad, their actions are totally reasonable, but their survival doomed the world.
@digitalcurrents
2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe the ending doomed the world for the simple reason that the movie made tons of money and Hollywood loves sequels of established movies.
@Rzo139
2 жыл бұрын
Cabin in the Woods is so overrated.
@satyrosphilbrucato9140
3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that Haute Tension/ High Tension didn't make this list, especially since it sounds as if Happy Birthday to Me 3D riffed off that earlier milestone of the New French Extremity wave.
@wednesday8397
2 жыл бұрын
"the rise of Leslie vernon" is one of my favorite comedy horrors, sooooo underrated
@wreckedxem3746
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know about you guys, but I thought Leslie Vernon was great at his job as a killer. Literally everything went down the way he wanted it to.
@tobiasreinhold7642
3 жыл бұрын
If you ever make the list for "Another X horror movies that tricked you into rooting for the villain", I can offer 3 more cases: Sleepaway Camp, High Tension and Shrooms. (Descending order in terms of quality)
@ichigoeater
3 жыл бұрын
High Tension does belong on the list, but since I found out it's a rip off of a Dean Koontz novel, but spat on the original badass heroine in the name of that useless twist, it's lost all my respect. Especially when I remember that disgusting severed head scene at the beginning that had no point, as it didn't happen in reality. To make it a full 10 horror movies list, I'd just add The Others and Sleepaway Camp, High Tension deserves to be forgotten.
@gravitydefining
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Midsommar should be on here. I think we were all happy for Dani at the end of that movie, despite the cult getting exactly what they wanted.
@SomewhatSlightlyBored
2 жыл бұрын
Don't think it really fits the description since Dani was never a villain. The real villains were Dani's boyfriend and his douchebag friends, and you never once feel an ounce of sympathy for them.
@pyroronnie2473
2 жыл бұрын
Tucker and dale vs evil is one of the best things that represent this moment. Two tough looking dudes thought to be evil as hell end up being the funniest and most innocent of anybody in the entire movie
@CatoNovus
2 жыл бұрын
Not a horror movie(more suspense), but the look on the good guy's face at the end of 1999's Arlington Road is one of horror. For those who haven't seen it, a college professor and widower whose deceased wife was a federal agent carries anger for how he lost her(think something akin to the Ruby Ridge incident) but still has a friendship with his wife's old agency friend. A new neighbor moves in by Mister Professor and he starts noticing all these suspicious things. Clever twist ending that makes a surprising amount of sense. *SPOILER ALERT* Neighbor is actually a domestic terrorist who targeted Professor and has a plan for him. Professor learns Neighbor plans to bomb the federal building Wife's Friend works in, so he rushes there as quickly as he can. Once he gets there, Friend tells Professor there's no bomb, leaving him confused, then he goes to his own car and looks in the trunk to find a massive bomb just before it goes off. He made the perfect fall guy due to the loss of his wife and his anger with the system.
@gregor0714
2 жыл бұрын
What about the movie Frality? The twist at the end where you find out the Sheriff is the God's Hand Killer is priceless
@kaileegoldberg9826
3 жыл бұрын
“Goodnight Mommy” could be added to this list too
@Guandilicious
3 жыл бұрын
I'm always happy to see Behind the Mask pop up in horror lists, but BAD at it? Rewatch that movie. Set in a world where Freddy, Jason, and Chucky all exist, he takes a college film crew out to show them how and why he's doing what he's doing. He disects horror film logic while he's explaining how he's going to kill people. They need to show that movie to teach kids how to review movies in film studies classes. lol
@Elizabeththegreatest
3 жыл бұрын
Leslie Vernon is what the people who don't understand why other people love horror movies fear we'll turn into!
@xhexie21
3 жыл бұрын
Man, I only just stopping thinking about the Lodge. The movie stays with ya
@kyleannen731
3 жыл бұрын
That movie's twist really rocked me; I was so angry at those damn kids! lol
@peaveyandsmolski
3 жыл бұрын
Nature of the Beast with Lance Henriksen and Eric Roberts could make this list. Not quite a horror, but close. Also, one of my favorite Lance performances.
@nicknelson1915
3 жыл бұрын
Why isn't Sleepaway Camp on here? Possibly the most shocking reveal ever?
@mousepariah3884
3 жыл бұрын
My best guess is because the whole gender/ "Raised by an abusive psycho" reveal doesn't actually play any part in who you were meant to be rooting for. The whole movie is set up so you think Angela or Ricky is the killer, since the killer is getting revenge on those that wronged Angela. So you learn something about the person you suspected was the killer anyway but that doesn't change that you were meant to suspect them...if that makes sense
@nathangeer8595
3 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a sequel to "Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon" just to show what goes into the process of bringing back the slasher in the sequel.
@BAlejandraLRoman
3 жыл бұрын
Go and see Dead Meat in KZitem where James analyse the movie and the actor who plays Leslie shows up as the character in the end. The closest thing to a sequel (sorry for my english)
@workittworkit
7 ай бұрын
Predators is another one! That cowardly guy turning out to be a serial killer was a twist I didn’t see coming.
@miawithah6907
2 жыл бұрын
Ghosts Ship is another example. We tricked into thinking that Jack is nerdy and sweet when in reality he was a demon who's job was to kill people (on Ships) who had sinned so he could take their souls to hell.
@eckoschreiber
2 жыл бұрын
Alexandre Aja's (remake of) Maniac with Elijah Wood did a great job at switching victim and villain. Loved Housebound! But don't care for generalizations like "We rooted for...", who we? Some may...
@robertjames7657
3 жыл бұрын
The problem with My Bloody Valentine 3D is that everyone else in the movie is so dislikable that, even after the twist reveal, you are still on his side!
@stillgrieves1015
3 жыл бұрын
In the original Axl was the killer and Tom the protagonist. It's like remake Nightmare on Elm Street where Freddy is Nancy boyfriend and Glen is the dream demon.
@catmarsh6547
2 жыл бұрын
Right, like... what, I'm supposed to side with a cop who cheats on his wife? Like maybe some characters should get pickaxed.
@MsNathanv
2 жыл бұрын
Recently, One Night in Soho. Somebody could write a pretty good term paper about what that movie says about objectification. The faces of all the johns blending into one another.... Of course, it's smart not to lean too hard into that, kinda like Inglorious Basterds just lets you root for the terrorists-- it can be commentary and still be a fun movie anyways. BTW, glad to see The Lodge get some love, really powerful flick.
@jeffreyrobinson3555
3 жыл бұрын
I would throw Hannibal Lector in to the mix, as you can’t but to like him, by Hannibal Rising you root for him
@hollyro4665
3 жыл бұрын
I think with most horror movies you root for the villain a bit. They’re the part that brings the main event to the movie so you kinda hope they attack or kill someone because it would be pointless without them.
@keithdrummond1003
3 жыл бұрын
Leslie Vernon, by far the best on this list.
@frankmoniz1467
3 жыл бұрын
There are some movies you don't need to be tricked. I was rooting for the Babadook after the first 20 minutes!
@gaysuperheronerd
2 жыл бұрын
Secret Window-you think Johnny Depp is the hero or at least a sympathetic character (his wife cheats on him and leaves him for another man), and then Depp is met by a mysterious creepy character who says that Depp stole his manuscript for a book. Suddenly this creepy dude is killing folk and it culminates with the twist being that the creepy dude was a psychological manifestation of Depp’s rage at being betrayed by his wife. He then embraces this persona and kills his wife and her lover and buries them in the garden.
@kikeninikisses7061
2 жыл бұрын
So glad to see someone else knows this movie as well. Tbh it's one of my favourite by Depp and so few people seem to know it. I still say the 'you stole my story' line from the movie all the time 😂
@beatsbydusk5384
Жыл бұрын
@@kikeninikisses7061 right usually no one knows I’m glad to see a couple do
@kato5569
Жыл бұрын
This was a slow burn, when I first saw this movie I remember wanting to stop watching it, it was dragging but I hung in there, that plot twist made it all worthwhile, I did Not See that coming, glad I watched till the end
@ItsMeFreemanCooper
Ай бұрын
So, in other words, showing that Amber was simply playing a figment of Depp's imagination?
@stephanginther9051
2 жыл бұрын
Sort of similar is an episode of the TV show 'The Librarians.' The shows about a team of people that deal with supernatural threats in modern times. They find themselves trying to help a young woman who got trapped in a house that has been known to pop up, take a few people, kill them then disappear for a decade or so then appear somewhere else. Only, you come to find out the young woman is a serial killer from the 1800's, the house is a wish granting entity and an unwilling participant in the killings. Not quite horror since the show is more action comedy but a similar premise.
@bigbearkat2010
Жыл бұрын
You ever watch the TV movies before them that just had Flynn?
@stephanginther9051
Жыл бұрын
@@bigbearkat2010 I did enjoy those.
@kezziahvalentino2450
2 жыл бұрын
Shutter is such a great film every time I’ve had shoulder pain, I think there’s a ghost sitting on my shoulder
@julz3tt3
3 жыл бұрын
Yes the whole time I was rooting for Ackles (Dean from Supernatural) in My Bloody Valentine. I thought it was the dude from Roswell the whole time...
@eldridgecharles1313
3 жыл бұрын
Does Friday the 13th count? I was never tricked into liking Jason, I just really hated the teenagers
@BlackDiamond2718
3 жыл бұрын
Not really. Its more of a twist that puts these movies there.
@DK-hx4lt
3 жыл бұрын
Blair Witch Project: about 15 minutes in after dealing with the crew, I knew the Witch had to be the hero. Similar feeling with the Cloverfield monster vs. the whiny villains we had to endure as the POV characters.
@BigRedShadevil
2 жыл бұрын
I think Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2 should get an honorable mention. You kinda root for the young adults until you find out the truth in the end. Even they thought they were the good guys
@lionkeiko
3 жыл бұрын
"I See You" would be a good one for this list too.
@janhommer
2 жыл бұрын
Hm, so being tricked into rooting for the villain is (!) officially recognized to be a thing! I know this is unrelated to the video, but why then is it so hard for so many to grasp that that's exactly (!) what happened on a certain TV with the "worst" finale ever (which looks very different and not that bad if you've accepted that) even in spite of people like me having told 'em that years before it aired?
@elisaphant981
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, she proved time and time again she was happy to dispose of (burn!) others to gain power. Amused that people were so horrified by the "sudden switch"
@jaenelle-nu9zh
2 жыл бұрын
Taking a wild guess and say you're talking about GoT. People are not upset about her becoming evil. People are upset about how it was done. Her actions in the finale were not in line with her character. It's not like, in the finale, they exposed how every single thing she'd done previously were because she was absolutely batshit insane and had no morals at all. It instead went against everything she'd previously stood for because the writers of the show did not take the time they needed to properly wrap things up.
@jackdaniel4415
Жыл бұрын
“You’re next” is another great twist
@pearlearplugs
3 жыл бұрын
New addition: malignant. Finding out the bay guy is just the main chick backwards was wild
@truthspitter8156
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you I thought it was decent bruhh very original idea shit flipped side ways for sure.
@SomewhatSlightlyBored
2 жыл бұрын
That movie was bonkers in all the best and worst ways possible.
@dominickdavila1836
2 жыл бұрын
Was it wild or was it just a crap movie? 🤔 flipped from horror, to gun-fu action movie, to pointless ending where the girl should still go to jail for murdering all those cops and somehow a light flickers to say he’s still there… no shit… we already knew he’ll forever be inside of her, she locked him in her mind… that wasnt clever or needed! It was an awful movie. Also, the “forgotten for the sake of a dumb chase scene” speed and strength of the “monster” barely could outrun and outfight the cop, in whats gotta be the most boring chase scene in a horror movie, then proceeds to kill a dozen cops and bullet time dodge throughout the fight 😂😂😂 This movie was a dumpster fire
@franksmith613
2 жыл бұрын
What about Frailty? We thought the good older boy in the story was Matthew Mcconaughey's character, but he ended up being the evil little brother at the end.
@kato5569
Жыл бұрын
Excellent Movie😁
@sarahlovee1865
3 жыл бұрын
I rooted for the villain in unfriended or friend request (which ever was the all web cam style one) straight from the jump
@godskisonsunday
Жыл бұрын
don't know if it's technically a horror film, but Frailty comes to mind as a film that does this well.
@jleggett5995
3 жыл бұрын
The first half of Better Watch Out has some pretty nifty misdirection
@disableddragonborn
Жыл бұрын
I'm conflicted on the end of "Us". I mean, Adelaide (Red) returning to the surface and taking down her replacement makes sense, but she helps the impostors attempt the same thing. She attempted to help them do to an innocent man and his kids what was done to her.
@4plus20isHappy
2 жыл бұрын
How about ‘Salvage’ (2006)? The victim who keeps getting killed over and over turns out to be the serial killer who murdered her and her boyfriend and is in Hell forced to re-live the victim’s last day over and over. ‘Saw 4’ has Detective Hoffman who is revealed to be Jigsaw’s apprentice. ‘The Curse of Sleeping Beauty’ has the seemingly distressed damsel turn out to be the evil demon trying bring the apocalypse.
@adinal1958
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it counts as horror, but Fallen with Denzel Washington.
@itsjustmaddisen
2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching Shutter and being so glad that the guys were being killed off once the twist was revealed. Brilliant movie, but the remake was so bad. I couldn’t stand ANY of the character and just waited and hoped for them to die already.
@danzig159
3 жыл бұрын
"Tricked" me? lmao! I always root for the villain! Go Voorhees go!!
@claybfx
3 жыл бұрын
How on earth did you guys include My Bloody Valentine but NOT High Tension???
@etinarcadiaego7424
3 жыл бұрын
Because the twist in High Tension is one of the most retarded twists in cinema history.
@claytonbroyles8332
3 жыл бұрын
@@etinarcadiaego7424 I mean, that holds true for every entry on this list.
@SomewhatSlightlyBored
2 жыл бұрын
@@etinarcadiaego7424 It's still the exact same twist as MBV though, and while I agree the twist made no sense the film itself was still the better one between the two.
@teemick7594
3 жыл бұрын
High Tension and Frayed are two that come to mind
@g.mitchell7110
3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you didn't make the "protagonist = hero; antagonist = villain" mistake seen in a lot of discussions like these. There is a proper term for main characters who are also the villain - protagonist villain, not antihero. It's fairly simple: protagonist - the main character, or the character whose actions drive the plot forward antagonist - a character that opposes the protagonist or the goals of the protagonist hero - a morally good character whose goal is to do the right thing villain - a morally evil character with generally selfish motivations; villains seldom do evil for the purpose of doing evil antihero - a hero who lacks traditional heroic qualities - Batman, Spider-Man, The Man with No Name, Dirty Harry, Nathan Drake antivillain - a villain who lacks traditional villain qualities - Many Bond villains are exceptionally polite and friendly as they try to destroy the world protagonist villain - a villain who is the main character - every entry on this list antagonist hero - a hero who opposes the protagonist villain Antagonist heroes are rare. Most of the time, when you have a protagonist villain, the plot goes out of its way to pit that protagonist against other, more evil villains. We root for Walter White not because he's a good guy - he's irredeemably evil - but because he's going up against people worse than he is.
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