Over 2 million miles running an n14 celect plus. My opinion that's the best engine on the road except for injector problems
@davidsignor7931
Ай бұрын
The big cam 3 was a great engine but the power of the N14 was unbeatable I have driven and overhauled all of them. Worked at a KW dealership I can still count on 1 hand how many N14s that I have overhauled one that I did was for a regular customer it had 2.3 million miles on it. Cats always have exhaust manifold problems and head gasket issues even when they came out the overhead cam engine they never did anything to improve headgasket issues or exhaust manifold issues. The original 3406E had so many oil leaks they actually had us cleaning things off and putting epoxy on to stop the leaks, then we were grinding oil relief passages in the idler gear hub and several headgasket changes just for oil leaks. The N14 had plenty of injector issues and some oil leak issues with the front cover/ accessory drive bushing spinning and the oil pan gasket
@tbone8560
Жыл бұрын
I bought my 85 Pete when I was 34 I am 62 now we are still trucking 855 13 speed
@ColtWR
Жыл бұрын
That's awesome! My blue one is an 84
@zachstclair8973
Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome to hear. Same motor from when you bought it?? How many miles are you getting in between inframes??
@tbone8560
Жыл бұрын
@@zachstclair8973 Last overhaul i had 1 Million 100,000 I am the only one driving the truck last 30 years
@Alex0992
10 ай бұрын
@@tbone8560would you ever sell it?
@ChevoMKY5.7
2 ай бұрын
I just buy a 85 pete yesterday I been watching a lot videos I think I made a right decision need some Work but I ll get it ready starting a logging hauling business
@scottreed5460
Жыл бұрын
I think the 855 is the best engine ever made. You can’t beat the sound, the smell just love it..
@aarondefoor6753
3 ай бұрын
I drive a big cam IV daily. I have a 379 glider. Great engine. My pickup is a 93 f350 7.3 idi non turbo. I like things simple. I can't stand all the complexities of the new diesels. I'm looking to get a 7.3 gas soon haters gonna hate. Keep up the good content
@edwardkesock216
2 ай бұрын
I also have a 7.3 idi 1991 non turbo in my 2door longbed f350 4x4 automatic kinda rusty but was running went to start it the other day started up ran couple minutes cutoff would not start back up need to pull and check my fuel filter but do love the old truck
@aarondefoor6753
2 ай бұрын
@@edwardkesock216 I'm in Texas. No rust here. Mine is a reg cab 4x4 dual reR wheel factory cab and chassis. Xlt 5 speed in forest green
@hoost3056
Жыл бұрын
I've had both. The Cummins revs higher, is simpler and cheaper to fix, the Cat has a better torque rise, great sound and at 893ci, bigger. The supercharged Cummins was rated at 275 hp or 300 hp and it was nicknamed the Iron Lung.
@cintroberts6614
13 күн бұрын
Excellent video and assessment . I am definitely a Cummins guy because of the cost and availability of parts. I love my Jake's and my brakes love them to. Easy to drive and pulls almost as hard as a Cat.
@jamesmooney5348
Жыл бұрын
Right on Coltan, being from the PNW originally, I love this stuff. My uncle hauled logs for 32 yrs. Some big bid timber being hauled off some very steep mountain roads. White knuckle moments for sure.
@zakkeryandeerson6910
6 ай бұрын
I have the 855 400 big cam in my gmc general, and I'm HOOKED. I 100% agree, especially with the retarding power of their Jakes.
@charlesb4267
Жыл бұрын
That certainly was the theme back in that era of the Cummins vs the Cat with rebuild costs and same applies now if working on those now older engines from what I understand. However all that seems to have changed with the newer Cummins when it comes to insane prices for a rebuild and very poor reliability due to design issues but more so the pollution system causing the early demise of the engine as per heads cracking and so on. Cat started the down hill route reliability and cost wise with the ACERT but then really went to crap with the DPF system. The main take away is that both Cummins and Cat HAD good engines and then the government stuck their nose up the tailpipe and ruined them all. As of yet here in western Canada there are shops and supplier backup that will lighten the weight of the Cummins powered truck but that ends any warranty and I am told dealers will not take them in on trade, no doubt the clock is ticking on this all coming to an end up here as well like the big GOV hammer that hit you to the south. With our weather and remote locations trucks have to keep running 24/7 all winter when there is no access to electricity to plug in and that is a major killer to the DPF system from what I hear and all the derate crap that ensues.
@davejensen8882
6 ай бұрын
The government is capable of ruining anything.
@Alanthe918mobilemechanic
Жыл бұрын
The mechanical N14 with Jake’s is the best of the best engine u can ever get
@mattlenz8554
9 ай бұрын
I’ve been working on w900 with n14. Customer found it in a field nothing works had been sitting for years with old fuel popped new battery’s in it and it just cranked right up! Good sounding engine too!
@clancytaylor7714
Жыл бұрын
Good knowledge. I love the 855 motors. We have a 280 in a 850 versatile and a 250 in a 800 versatile as well as a big cam 365 in a 1985 freightliner. They pull well, they are easy and cheap to work on , and the are incredibly reliable. We have a 91 Pete with a b model cat and though it is quieter and smoother , it's Jake's are horribly weak and it's not nearly as reliable.
@probiethetank8825
Жыл бұрын
That heeler though😂 I’ve got a blue and she’s just as aggressive for attention 🤣
@lonnieblackwell9215
7 ай бұрын
You forgot about some of the best Cummins engines, but since you are a little bit young I will let that go. The small cam NTA 420 was a powerhouse for sure. Also the KTA 450, 525, and 600 where very good and powerful engines. They were 1155 ci. engines. I agree with you on the cost of ownership. Cummins is a very affordable engine.
@daltongoodwine6617
Жыл бұрын
another great video. If you wouldn’t mind doing one about how u started on your own and things to know to start your own repair businesses I would be very interested. I also got my 6.0 for a steal you inspired me lol.
@ColtWR
Жыл бұрын
Yes for sure! I will try to make some videos about my buisness!
@user-wq4pi8qx9i
3 ай бұрын
Have a 96 N14 Celect, problems with these engines is weak mains, fretting issues, had to find a replacement block for mine. Also the ECM’s can be an issue, especially since they r getting older, and are hard to find
@ktanner11
2 ай бұрын
All the big cam's are completely mechanical., no ECM. Some of the very early n14's were mechanical
@JARRETT7121
Ай бұрын
For the small cam Cummins you get an FFC block you take the camshaft from a big bore 220 and it will run
@scottreed5460
Жыл бұрын
I still drive my 855 in a 85 K100 and yes the jake is unreal
@Xkekeskfndsmw
Жыл бұрын
The 855 sounds better out the exhaust pipe, the 3406B engine noise sounds better, if that makes sense. What about overhaul intervals? I was always of the impression that the Cat lasted a little longer before rebuild. I agree with all your thoughts. The Cat probably is a couple hundred pounds heavier too - more if it had a brake saver to make up for the weak jakes. Both are legendary engines and you can’t really lose with either.
@ColtWR
Жыл бұрын
I'm with you about the sounds 🤣
@pugetlexus
Жыл бұрын
cats did last longer but that was often because they were o/o rigs, like the gold macks that had forever engines cats were heavier yes. and your all givin it away. there is no diesel that sounds better than a cat 1693 out the stack. nothing. nothing more fun to drive either. a 1693 into the truck stop in an old pete cab over turns heads. a cold start 1693 in the truck stop in the a. m. could be hear all over the lot. this was in the days when 200 parking spots was a huge truck stop. that 1693 in the corner in an old kw belonged to a grain hauler or a bull whack and he leave it there for the weekend, and fire that mother on monday, hell the whole place stopped to listen . beautiful.
@Xkekeskfndsmw
Жыл бұрын
@@pugetlexus what were the Mack engines that lasted long? Was it most of them, or a specific model? The E6 or the E9? I notice they seemed to have better filtration than the Cats or Cummins, but my experience is limited to 2 late-80’s R-600’s.
@pugetlexus
Жыл бұрын
@@Xkekeskfndsmw im not able to recall the engines that mack made , as i seldom had opportunity to " run with the big dog". one major reason macks were so popular on the east coast was due to the trucks holding together and running longer than others. but i cant recall engine models
@scottreed5460
Жыл бұрын
Mine is also a 625, best series
@davejensen8882
6 ай бұрын
I believe the basic design started in the early 30s. Much smaller displacement, 670 something and they just kept adding cubic inches and improvements to it. 70 year run, probably no basic design will come close to that production longevity.
@dougschwamb9653
2 ай бұрын
The J and C series engines made their mark, we can't forget the Indy car and the naturally aspirated small bores hauled lots of freight and drivers thought they were in hog heaven, for a while.
@Alanthe918mobilemechanic
Жыл бұрын
Go to ur driver side of the big cam and clean up the edge right next to the bottoms of the rear head mounting surface you’ll find an eight digit number call Cummins and give them the serial number you’ll find out what exactly you got
@Sak-zo1ui
Жыл бұрын
If it was rebuilt the parts could have been swapped. The numbers from cummins also were sometimes ground and re serialized if remaned by cummins. They were not all re tagged.
@slodsl
3 ай бұрын
I'm not exactly an n14 fan simply because I've seen multiple of them yeet rods for no apparent reason. That being said, they're unbelievably easy to work on and I'd probably put one of them or a series 60 in my 359 whenever I'm ready to upgrade to an electronic engine. My small cam spun the crank gear so idk if im gonna fix it, buy a big cam, or just go ahead and get an electronic engine for it.
@scottreed5460
Жыл бұрын
I love the 855
@jimbeam7776
8 ай бұрын
I’ve got a 85 Pete 362 double sleeper I’m thinking about selling. Not quite sure yet! It’s got a Cummins Big Cam 3. and 9 speed
@jeremylyons6252
Ай бұрын
Let me know if you wanna sell
@firsttimediesels6289
11 ай бұрын
Nh thought was even the earlier 40s. Late 30s possibly. Some of the longest manufactured engines are them 855 blocks. All the way up to the late n14 which i call "a step off" an 855.
@JacksonClass
4 ай бұрын
1 thing I don't like about a big cam is the direct drive fan that runs constantly which makes it hard to keep warm in the winter.
@ColtWR
4 ай бұрын
Mine have air clutches
@Jimmie1
11 ай бұрын
I am looking for a rebuild kit for a 444, is there a particular one you recommend
@ColtWR
11 ай бұрын
I have used interstate mcbee for the kit. And lil rays machine shop in denver for the injectors and heads
@eraummenino3011
Жыл бұрын
just a little correction, the NH 220 was actually 743 CID, same engine just a bit smaller, and the spercharged version of that was NHBS-600 or NHS 275 that had 275 hp, the 855 came along in 1960 as the NH 230 and 250 N/A and NT 280 or 380 turbo kzitem.info/news/bejne/wJWKyH2Hi6Fhe2U grate video talking about this engine if you have the patiance and time to watch it
@Sak-zo1ui
Жыл бұрын
Jakes are also different
@ruxoneto6560
8 ай бұрын
Ever heard of the nhe-250, that stands for not high enough.
@ruxoneto6560
8 ай бұрын
The only thing to watch for on the625 cpl is the old cpl book says to time @ .070 the new cpl book says to time it # .065, go with.070.
@scottreed5460
Жыл бұрын
If you want your engine to come alive put a N14 turbo I think it’s a HX60
@stormyweather9054
9 ай бұрын
HT 60 got 1 on my 855 big cam 4 w/ high flow cooling system got a #8 button in the fuel pump. Dragging a 50' Merritt gold line with 45 k of feeders will run a tick over 90 on flat ground ( for short time ) and 107 empty ....
@dougschwamb9653
2 ай бұрын
Yes along with a gentle massage of the pump not just to get more horsepower but to benefit from better drivability. Many overdid it, 5% done the right way makes a big difference. Good turbo choice, Jake will work better also.
@scottreed5460
2 ай бұрын
@@dougschwamb9653 Exactly
@CAT527LS
3 ай бұрын
855 block decks crack more. Costing more to out of frame. 349A super jakes were offered for a B and C model. Not to mention with a brake saver (retarder). A super Jakes retarder combo will hold way more back then an 855. B model overhead is easier and faster to run. 855’s also usually need a bearing roll around 250k depending on how how hard it’s used, now a small journal B isn’t much better but the wide journal C would do a million miles before the bottom end needs touched.
@52felix87
Жыл бұрын
Where do you order your kits from? I gots Me a big Cam to overhaul
@ColtWR
Жыл бұрын
Agkits.com they are super helpful and I use the interstate mcbee kits
@52felix87
Жыл бұрын
Thanks didn’t know which aftermarket to go with and which is credible
@jasoncolyer6286
5 ай бұрын
The big cam 400 is the best cumins ever built
@351peterbiltsmsrepair8
Жыл бұрын
😁😁😁
@frankdantonio2479
Жыл бұрын
The babymax and eco diesel pages are full of people going around in a circle telling each other their engines don’t suck.
@Alanthe918mobilemechanic
Жыл бұрын
Looks like u got a Pete use the vin number call Pete they can tell u if they ever done an engine swap on it and what’s on it
@jeremydrew9678
Жыл бұрын
KTA600 Cummins
@ruxoneto6560
8 ай бұрын
Yes but the kta525 is better , better turbo, higher compression = better fuel mileage, jake & 525 will not smoke you out !! Have both will not build another 600....
@carsongibson5279
Жыл бұрын
No love for the kta 600 ?
@ColtWR
Жыл бұрын
The kta would be in the same party as the 3408 I'm my opinion 🤷🏻♂️
@Xkekeskfndsmw
Жыл бұрын
The KTA’s in large 4wd Ag tractors didn’t seem to last much longer than the 855’s or 3406’s - they had higher power ratings, but didn’t seem to get much more hours to overhaul. And the KTA’s are shockingly costly to repair, at least be old engine standards. (I am sure 3408’s are terrible too)
@Alanthe918mobilemechanic
Жыл бұрын
The heads shouldn’t cost u more then 1300 for rebuilding all three heads
@hughjass4876
7 ай бұрын
Natural aspirated small cam would get 250
@tbone8560
Жыл бұрын
My truck holds 11 gallons
@ColtWR
Жыл бұрын
This one does too
@notsure6182
4 ай бұрын
weird governor pump
@ColtWR
4 ай бұрын
It has an adjustable high idle for running pto
@tannerfrank9578
Жыл бұрын
Lol need a ride?
@ColtWR
Жыл бұрын
Lol dang near
@daneblackburn613
6 ай бұрын
Rebuild isn’t that much more and the truck is literally worth twice as much with a cat. Cummins doesn’t over. Reman for an 855 anymore cat does. Had my b rebuilt this summer my cat. 3 weeks.
@daneblackburn613
6 ай бұрын
By cat sorry
@notsure6182
4 ай бұрын
go price a fuel pump for that cat. the entire cummins can be done for that including pump and injector
@daneblackburn613
4 ай бұрын
I just did one. Worth a he money vs a big cam
@notsure6182
4 ай бұрын
@@daneblackburn613 I guess if you dont like throttle response you can go with a lazy cat. I like to drive so Cummins is where its at.
@pugetlexus
Жыл бұрын
sidetracked, rabbit tracked very very dangerous during oil change. dont even stop to fart until oil is back in crank case, and remember to put the plug back in first.... ask me how i know this.... no dont ask wont tell there was a period when ddta and cummins were dead even in power choices the cat was an o/o thing mostly, when the big cam came out and the low rpm engines then it was cummins all the way. cat was always more expensive but better to drive. silver 92 ran hard but leaked and no efficiency . then detroit back on top with the ddec series what an amazing engine. outside moncton NB cold enuf to shatter steel. i penciled in 1m kilometers on logs, and she fired dead cold . unbelievable. i never ever saw an 855 good for even half million miles
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