quick correction: incin does not learn parting shot in gen 7, dumb mistake on my end. z-parting shot was still good tho.
@TheRavenOfDestiny
4 ай бұрын
No love for z-forest curse trevenant I see. :( It's one of the Omni boosts and it actually makes trevenant usable in the single player because you crack off a z forest curse then recover all the Lost hit points with a boosted speedy horn leech. Game breaking if you get one via poke pelago during the story.
@njivwathomassilavwe2056
4 ай бұрын
The best part of Z moves is how overdramatic they are. Just annihilating a low level Pokemon with light that burns the sky after a whole dance sequence
@Rot8erConeX
4 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly, LtBtS is also the only Z-Move that has a unique trainer animation before the actual Pokémon animation starts. You do the Psychic Z-Move dance but then collapse to grab your knees because it uses way more energy than other Z-Moves.
@belialatrocity9166
4 ай бұрын
@@Rot8erConeX I just wanna say you grab your knees I'm pretty sure you are just shielding your eyes cause LtBtS is supposed to hit like a icbm
@ubermaster1
4 ай бұрын
@@belialatrocity9166nope just checked, your trainer holds themselves up by grabbing onto their knee after doing the psychic dance, implying LtbTS takes a stupid amount of energy to perform
@plompedu
4 ай бұрын
@@Rot8erConeXAny Signature Z-Move has a special trainer animation. That was like the best part about these.
@belialatrocity9166
4 ай бұрын
@@ubermaster1 Jeez, it truly is like the pokemon equivilent of an ultimate. I appreciate you being nice while correcting my mistake!
@CBSnB2R
4 ай бұрын
I love the Z status moves. I once built a team all around Z-Recycle and then realised that recycle doesn't not restore z crystals...
@ElectricWindGirlFriend
4 ай бұрын
LMFAO
@edgargaebolg9307
4 ай бұрын
Hey at least you get an Agility boost
@johnlynch1353
4 ай бұрын
That would be hella broken if it could.
@milliondollarmistake
4 ай бұрын
z-status moves were WAY more interesting and fun than the big nukes
@LoMaLouis
4 ай бұрын
Z-Flash actually makes the opponent go blind, it just says that it is an evasion boost to keep the age restriction down
@Glory2Snowstar
4 ай бұрын
Porygon-Z would know about that huh
@why3994
4 ай бұрын
gotta catch em all? more like gotta break the Geneva convention
@twotoned_echos
4 ай бұрын
Sounds like something U-Necrozma should be able to do passively lol
@WhatIsMyPorpoise
4 ай бұрын
While the animation certainly implies an end to the light, you don’t actually stop shining. You permanently stay bright and as such, enemy pokemon cannot pinpoint your exact location.
@omlett6482
4 ай бұрын
Z-Me First is probably the most chad Z-Move out there imo
@Rot8erConeX
4 ай бұрын
"Incineroar is the only one of the Alolan starters to have an effect on its signature Z-Move." That can't be right. Doesn't Sinister Arrow Raid trap the target? *looks on Bulbapedia* What the heck? It doesn't even inherit Spirit Shackle's effect?
@Milesprowerthegamer
4 ай бұрын
Marshadow's signature Z-move doesn't even inherit Spectral Thief's effect either for some reason, the signature Z-moves were really inconsistent with how they were implemented, some being so good and some being just a normal Z-move but stronger.
@ReallyReallyTrying
4 ай бұрын
Honestly, Primarina is my favorite alolan starter, and even if it doesn't do nothing, Oceanic Operetta is cool AF 😊
@GumCow
4 ай бұрын
Mandela effect. I swear it trapped the opponent.
@edoardocaccia6226
4 ай бұрын
@@GumCowit gaslit the opponent into thinking it trapped them so they wouldn't switch out anyways
@anya_screen
4 ай бұрын
My favorite was the omniboost from Z-Conversion Porygon Z, finally something that made the evolution arguably better than the middle stage
@Youngapollo47
4 ай бұрын
yeah not the biggest fan of z moves, EXCEPT for one: “light that burns the sky”. because not only is that the coolest english-named pokemon move, the japanese name is even DOPER: “heaven-scorching light of destruction”. sounds like an ultimate move from gurren lagann
@byakudora
4 ай бұрын
I prefer light that burns the sky but yeah definitely agreed
@XAEzl
4 ай бұрын
It's Japanese name is pretty generic and overdone really. But why aren't you a fan of Z-moves
@lori2738
4 ай бұрын
I think the English name is better simply because it's simple yet powerful Heaven-scorching light of destruction sounds cool at first, but it's generic anime name Light that burns the sky it's simple yet powerful, biblical even Sometimes the simpler names for super attacks can be the most impactful in my opinion
@kimlit058
4 ай бұрын
@@lori2738exactly. Like every other anime boss can fire off a heaven scorching light of destruction, but there’s only ONE Light That Burns the Sky.
@TheHighDerple
4 ай бұрын
their animation quality also varies like hell, you've got the signatures with great quality (kommo-o breaking it down, ultra necrozma yeeting the sun etc.) then there's things like twinkle tackle...
@ElectricWindGirlFriend
4 ай бұрын
twinkle tackle the goat actually
@Glory2Snowstar
4 ай бұрын
Supersonic Skystrike Toucannon.
@manelneedsaname1773
4 ай бұрын
Tbf it's important to realise that some are generic versions while others are made specifically for 1 Pokémon
@MetronaJ
4 ай бұрын
This is the difference between a signature and a generic
@edgargaebolg9307
4 ай бұрын
@@manelneedsaname1773The thing is that they datamined walk/run animations that could've been used for Z-moves but made the Pokemon static instead
@Iris_Descent
4 ай бұрын
because xerneas needed more favoritism over yveltal 😔
@Type_blazenil
4 ай бұрын
Allow me to fix it then: Z- oblivion wing -25% Max HP of all enemy Pokemon (even if they're not on the field) +75% of damage delt converted for all Ally Pokemon (active or not) divided by the number of Pokemon that are being healed Cures all status conditions (ally)
@Type_blazenil
4 ай бұрын
Is this incredibly stupidly broken? Probably Does it matter? Absolutely not z moves are dead
@goldenarmour7975
4 ай бұрын
Yveltal is an absolute BEAST in Singles Ubers.
@plumble1784
4 ай бұрын
My favourite use was Ryota Otsubo winning 2017 worlds with a Z Nature Power Whimsicott, giving a priority Twinkle Tackle/Gigavolt Havoc depending on which terrain has been set by his Tapu Fini or Tapu Koko
@Glory2Snowstar
4 ай бұрын
Gen 7’s my favorite Gen but I never liked Z-Moves during the Gen’s existence. Now I look back at Z-Destiny Bond and think “Oh that’s actually really funny.”
@manelneedsaname1773
4 ай бұрын
Z Destiny bond specifically should come back and none other
@edoardocaccia6226
4 ай бұрын
Status Z-moves were cool, too bad they were vastly overshadowed by pointing at an opponent and making it disappear
@EclipseonPMD
4 ай бұрын
Z sunny day was my favorite. It set up sun and raised your speed by one. Not too useful, but it could be lethal with good setup. Against more fat teams, you could use regular sunny day and save the z crystal for damage. Z sunny day Blacephalon was the most effective I've used. After only one kill, Blacephalon is at plus 1 speed and sp.attack with sun up. Sunny day also helped in sucker punch mind games.
@sebastianchavez1225
4 ай бұрын
In my first incursion into competitive ever (an IRL event even) i had an Alolan Persian with Z Parting Shot, it was great.
@knightpg3d162
4 ай бұрын
My favorite generation gimmick
@th2112
4 ай бұрын
My favorite z move tech was z heal bell mag, basically a full restore which was nasty when heart swapping geomancy xern
@Rabbit6627
4 ай бұрын
I remember almost never using Z-moves outside of set-up, because I never knew when the right time to use them was
@cosmonauta___
4 ай бұрын
What about the A-Y moves? No one ever talks about those
@PlatinumAltaria
4 ай бұрын
Only Charizard has access to those, for balance.
@edoardocaccia6226
4 ай бұрын
A few interesting examples of Z-moves usage in VGC: Pile up also fully healed the user, so you could boost up first, then heal with another boost on top of that and be effectively unkillable. While VGC is usually ill suited for hyper defensive strategies, it had a playable niche as win condition on Alolan Muk Arash Ommati's Buginium Volcarona is legendary, at least here in Italy. Not only it could nuke opponents after a quiver dance boost, but it could be used to setup because z-QD cleanses any debuffs first, as showcased in the 2018 top 8 where he countered a snarl with it One of the omniboost moves was Conversion. PZ had a niche for being able to setup an omniboost while turning into a ghost or electric type and obliterate anything with its power and coverage. Basically tera ante litteram. Z tailwind increased the user's critical chance by two stages. Sometimes used by Kartana to support the team and get a scary boost, especially on leaf blade which always crit Z-trick room boosted accuracy. Munsharna and Bronzong would pair it with hypnosis to essentially become amoongoos that sets up its own TR. Also really valuable because Z TR overrides Taunt/Encore
@yunaka_gaming
4 ай бұрын
I liked these effects more than the big nukes tbh
@tonberry2670
4 ай бұрын
I remember in Lower Tiers, Murkrow had a niche with Z-Mirror Move. Mirror Move is technically a status move, so you get priority on the plus 2 move, along with the boost and big attack
@gmkgoat
4 ай бұрын
Z Moves and Megas were interesting particularly because they required an item slot. Something Dynamax and Tera would completely bungle in the following generations.
@forjqoijasd
4 ай бұрын
I like teras because changing your type is definitely very useful but not worth it for many pokemon if it required an item slot
@piratebear3126
4 ай бұрын
Guardian of Alola was my go to catching move for legendaries in Moon. Koko with Thunder Wave and Guardian of Alola was a thought-free way to set up a catch.
@EyeWasBored
4 ай бұрын
Z-status moved my beloved
@ElectricWindGirlFriend
4 ай бұрын
an OM video is def happening at some point.
@xpyjk
4 ай бұрын
Incineroar did not learn parting shot in gen 7
@ElectricWindGirlFriend
4 ай бұрын
oops im too modern-gen pilled and got the wrong mon my bad
@dingochungis6814
4 ай бұрын
honestly i miss z-moves. i've come to understand that, as much as i liked mega evolutions from a casual perspective, they weren't super great competitively, due to the fact you pretty much HAD to include one, and the viable list in higher tiers wasn't even all of them but man, z-moves are actually still a sick mechanic. i liked them at the time, and i STILL like them now. alas...
@tornadoknuckles
4 ай бұрын
moxie z-me first krook, albeit was very niche, but sooo fun to use back in the day
@iamnotsmartest3397
4 ай бұрын
I really liked Z-Conversion for Porygon-Z -- it lets you type swap to your first moveslot's type, giving you STAB, and a special Attack boost on top. You could become a Discharging Monster and potentially sweep if you ran Ice Beam in another slot for Coverage.
@pulledpork9778
4 ай бұрын
Finally! Someone recognizes the ingenuity that is z-parting shot! Loved using fur coat alolan persian as a pivot with it in gen 7
@goldenarmour7975
4 ай бұрын
I will never forget Z-hypnosis Xurkitree. Gave it a speed buff it so desperately needed while putting the opposing guy to sleep which garanteed at least 1 tail glow. Then, you just swept and entire team. (gen7 OU ofc)
@GKplus8
4 ай бұрын
I remember an urban myth at the time that it being a z move made it have perfect accuracy
@goldenarmour7975
4 ай бұрын
@GKplus8 it used to be 70% accuracy.
@CommerceHollifield666WWFSMD
4 ай бұрын
One that you didn’t mention that I’m a fan of is Z-Nature Power, which let you call different Z-Moves based on terrain. It was a cool option in a meta full of powerful terrain setters.
@ubermaster1
4 ай бұрын
Twinkie Tackle is still to this day the funniest animation to ever be created
@GerryRead-sl9tf
4 ай бұрын
Im a z focus energy guy myself. Crit boost plus accuracy plus focus blast plus special infernape plus ratio
@PlasmaBald
4 ай бұрын
Z-Destiny Bond is just hilarious. I love it.
@GKplus8
4 ай бұрын
Woo! Extreme Evoboost! Fav move. I used it with simple beam smeargle to baton pass onni +4s to stuff in vgc.
@june9914
4 ай бұрын
That sounds insanely evil but doesn’t that give the opponent 1.5 free turns and the option two use taunt?
@GKplus8
2 ай бұрын
@@june9914 Late response, but the key is to judge what the opponent leads with, and plan accordingly. Smeargle also had follow me & spore, so I could spend turn 1 to do spore + protect if I could get away with it then turn 2 use simple beam as they switch out the sleeping mon. If they had taunt, I used follow me on smeargle so it would hit it turn 1; as for turn 2, if the taunt was from a prankster mon, I switched smeargle for tapu lele to block the taunt on eevee, and if not priority, eevee was now faster than the taunter and would pass first. The simple beam strat was mainly the "eevee will survive hits without smeargle redirecting, so let's go for broke" option. Though it did create 420 bp stored powers/power trips.
@shogunyan9998
4 ай бұрын
I will continue to stan Z-Splash Mimikyu until the end of time
@armorbearer9702
4 ай бұрын
Imagine a world where Z-Belly Drum restored the user's HP after the Belly Drum's HP reduction.
@smittz_
4 ай бұрын
z-conversion my beloved the porys were so damn cool in gen 7 man
@icenovice
4 ай бұрын
you should have used the footage of C3PO's head on the battle droids for the magikarp z-splash image also if you ever feel useless, remember that guardian of alola exists
@madibyee
4 ай бұрын
Thank you boingus for telling me about Z-Flash's secondary effect.
@eeveewithcoffee9554
3 ай бұрын
I do wish eevee had something like their Z move. I think it would be really cool. Even if its like that X deer and takes two turns
@Conner-n4t
4 ай бұрын
Guardian of alola got 3rd at worlds in 2019
@aprilm3203
4 ай бұрын
I loved using z-me first in my in game play through xatu
@Bird-wz7nx
4 ай бұрын
I'd be very interested to see what a Z-move environment would be like in a space with no Hidden Power or Tera. Suddenly Mirror Coat is much more valued
@Yinyanyeow
4 ай бұрын
I normally call them emergency z buttons. Because you gotta be in something deep to use them.
@T_kats
4 ай бұрын
The best gimmick when take in account versatility and strategy.
@MadMewMew-mu3eq
4 ай бұрын
Z-Destiny Bond is my favorite. Also I call it zestiny bond for short lmao
@catisticallyspeaking
4 ай бұрын
One move I wanna mention about z-moves and specifically z-moves that heal is Z-Spite, which saw substantial play on Pyukumuku in low tier stall teams due to being a full heal that also reduced your opponent's PP by 4, making it easier to run your opponent's out of moves AND couldn't be knocked off or tricked. Similarly, stall teams in sun/moon (not USUM, like way earlier in the gen) RU played Ghostinum-Z Toxicroak with spite as the tier's only consistent check to Pangoro.
@june9914
4 ай бұрын
I await the horrors of Z Shed Tail
@GerryRead-sl9tf
4 ай бұрын
Type immunity against z moves was insane. Sorry light that burns the sky, my level 1 alolan rat doesn't care
@blueman4232
4 ай бұрын
Z-moves are easily my least favorite gimmick so far. They just felt boring really quickly
@reggilad_9043
4 ай бұрын
Freindly reminder that zmoves are the reason miraidon is anything goes in national dex.
@june9914
4 ай бұрын
What does miraidon do with Z moves?
@reggilad_9043
4 ай бұрын
@june9914 I'm pretty sure people used electriumz/draconiumz on miraidon similarly to how they used normaliumz on kartana, they basically used it as a nuke button against anything that normally counters miraidon, combine this with miraidon ability and the fact mist people ran choice specs and max speed he was almost impossible to prevent from sweeping your team.
@Rarest26
4 ай бұрын
@@june9914 War crimes
@TheTexasDice
4 ай бұрын
The real friends were the videos demonetized by eevee.
@drthvrdr
4 ай бұрын
Z moves are deffo weird. But it's a cool weird, most of the time. One thing that stands out to me is the fact that z-move's "take this move and give it an additional effect, most of the time a stat boost" schtick kinda just got robbed from it going forward. Gen 8 had dynamax moves which are just... that. And, both Gens 8 and 9 loved adding a ton of moves that are a good power damaging move that has a really good bonus effect. They could've at least kept the funny dances, right?
@dantespekken3549
4 ай бұрын
Z-tranform is my favorite on Mew
@egbertmilton4003
4 ай бұрын
Ah, Z-Moves, the only good gimmick in the modern games. Perfectly balanced, unlike Tera, Megas, or Dynamax, and plenty of creative counterplay and strategic potential involved.
@noukan42
4 ай бұрын
Iirc Z-moves were the least balanced in VGC
@SarcasticBeingYes
4 ай бұрын
cant tell if ur joking
@manohanged
4 ай бұрын
Clicked so early the vid was private😔
@ZelongDong
4 ай бұрын
Parting shot wasn’t available to incin in gen 7
@Edujs23
4 ай бұрын
Why cant they Just make Z-conversion an actual move for porygon-Z, but maybe instead of an omniboost make it only boost special attack and speed, If you want to be boring make it only usable once, but If you want to game make it change the type to the second move when used again
@Isabelle-mp8rk
4 ай бұрын
It's the fun stupid status z moves that makes the gimmic fun imo, and something i felt dynamax really lacked.
@connerrose6116
4 ай бұрын
Incineroar's Z-move doesn't have any secondary effect. I checked
@ElectricWindGirlFriend
4 ай бұрын
Malicious Moonsault has double damage against minimized targets
@THEWUNDERBARGAMING
4 ай бұрын
Z parting shot also crashed games lol
@carthagegaming5545
3 ай бұрын
Secret power z-moves was the absolute worst Meta pokemon has ever had and I'll fight anyone on that.
@MegamanStarforce2010
4 ай бұрын
started viewing these at 0.75 and now he talks at normal speed lol
@Nosretep
4 ай бұрын
Z-Hypnosis Xurkiree.
@zwiebeldogs
4 ай бұрын
The Eeveelutions standing behind Clodsire...majestic (No, you did NOT see my first comment. No, I am NOT embarrassed. NOTHING HAPPENED HERE, JUST MOVE ALONG)
@azurememory
4 ай бұрын
Hold hands LETS GOO
@TheFourthBlackReaper
4 ай бұрын
Z-moves were neat and I love all these weird move interactions, but it made Gen 7 Nuzlockes so much more stressful. They already have the totem Pokémon and their increasing bullshittery, but now I have to worry about some old dude having his dopey lookin cat suck my beloved Pokémon into a literal black hole!? I just wanted an Alolan vacation! Is that too much to ask?
@TheRedStinger82
4 ай бұрын
I miss ultra necrozma.
@edgargaebolg9307
4 ай бұрын
Thank goodness Z moves aren't coming back soon because the power creep is already terrible enough to give an even stronger delete button to Calyrex or Chi Yu among others
@blazie42069
4 ай бұрын
I think I like Z-Moves more than tera and dmax, because I really like the utility of Z-Moves in competitive as they don't break the game like Tera or Dmax in certain formats Megas still best though
@craniifer
4 ай бұрын
I genuinely liked Z moves more than Dynamax.
@TheRealMyan
4 ай бұрын
Y'know if Z-Meteor Beam was a thing would it be stupid?
@edgargaebolg9307
4 ай бұрын
It'd just be a 190BP special Continental Crush
@CarnageO31
4 ай бұрын
Definitely my least favorite gimmick. I didn't really care for them at all. Except for pulverizing pancake. That needs to be a snorlax staple.
@traiges414
4 ай бұрын
Imo Z-Moves are like allergies - They are seasonal, annoying and one is glad when they are finally gone
@cadetsparklez3300
4 ай бұрын
913 views in 14 minutes bro is falling up
@samelol8149
4 ай бұрын
What about z metronome
@santiagolv2838
4 ай бұрын
You talk to fast, I have to put your videos on x0.75, lol.
@player-ty2sy
4 ай бұрын
🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
@WhatNow505
4 ай бұрын
This is why terastalization is the best gimmick, you dont have to think abt this, just a pure competitive strat
@aaronlosey7201
4 ай бұрын
The only generation gimmick I didn’t actively dislike. Megas were unbalanced garbage, dynamax was just stupid. Teras could have been a good idea but they handled stab weird, it’s made it grindy to get different tera types, and the crystal crown thing visually looks bad. Z moves though, they actually opened up new choices and ways to think about the fight without overshadowing the entire rest of the fight. The dance sequence is silly but not offensive to look at every time. Some pokemon that needed a boost here and there got it, and op pokemon didn’t just become more op. I really didn’t give z moves enough credit back in the day.
@Elizabeth-by7gz
4 ай бұрын
:)
@JoshtheGoldfish
4 ай бұрын
54 seconds with zero views, ElectricWindGirlFriend really fell off...
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