According to a simple CBR23 (nT) test done by PCWorld's Gordon, the 7950X locked to 65W in Eco mode is still faster than a fully unlocked 5950X and also a 12900K. At 105W the 7950X is 25% faster than a fully unlocked 5950X. So Ryzen 7000 power draw is not totally out of whack but it's out of the box behavior is clearly done to blow the benchmark charts away.
@TiagoMorbusSa
2 жыл бұрын
This is kind of to be expected though. Undervolting is always over powered. You can usually get most of the performance at half the power envelope on any CPU or GPU.
@geiers6013
2 жыл бұрын
I think it is fine this way. The Cpu will automatically use the maximum it has in terms of cooling and power draw. And if you don't have this headroom it will automatically throttle or you can activate eco mode yourself and Voila now you have the most power efficient Cpu out there.
@RobBCactive
2 жыл бұрын
@@TiagoMorbusSa Gordon just set TDP, didn't bother undervolt, Wendell of Level 1 tried that with curve optimizer and lower TDP and I saw one Kit Guru knock of 0.1V. Think reviews need to generally avoid golden sample effects by overclock or undervolt but investigate simple efficiency tuning separately.
@DeepteshLovesTECH
2 жыл бұрын
@@TiagoMorbusSa It was not even undervolting. It was simply lowering the TDP and locking it at 65W and 105W. So that's a pure performance/watt comparison! 😃
@RobBCactive
2 жыл бұрын
You're right, the benchmark reviews tend to create perverse incentives to push power, testing on elite mobos, RAM and cooler. I really think performance/watt needs more emphasis now, 230 PPT, 241/253 PL2 are a huge turn off and testing shows AMD have followed Intel climbing high up the overclockers power wall. I'd like to see manufacturers have some profiles to ease switching between turbo, quieter and eco settings.
@glitchvid
2 жыл бұрын
HUB continues to have the best coverage of new CPU releases, thanks Steve and team!
@Rudolfik
2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video about performance scaling with the 65w 105w eco modes. A lot of people call those CPU hot and power hungry but they are very efficient, AMD just allows them to operate at a wattage higher then the best on the efficiency curve. I've seen that even at 65w it can outperform 12900k in some tests. Electricity costs in europe are getting pretty crazy especially for business 😅
@haridym
2 жыл бұрын
There's an article by club386, the gist of it is that gaming and single core performance are basically unaffected, and multi-threaded performance at stock is around 10% better than at 125W, and 25-30% better than at 65W.
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
2 жыл бұрын
I've long said people worry way too much about their temps for something that makes no appreciable difference. Like, just admit you like to see the number go down as a challenge. That's perfectly fine as an enthusiast. 99% of people can just set it and forget it. I kinda feel vindicated by Zen 4.
@m598lmr
2 жыл бұрын
PCWorld already done it. And it's insane: kzitem.info/news/bejne/1qGpmqWHa3-JpYI
@johndoh5182
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I had to watch PCWorld to even know this exists. To be fair, AMD wasn't quite ready with ECO mode at launch, and they had to send the BIOS for it to PCWorld. But, all the reviewers knew it was in existence, and it seems like it was only PCWorld that bothered mentioning it. So THANK YOU PCWorld. I think the 105W ECO mode would be excellent for the 7900X because it's not going to reduce the work of 12 cores as much as it would reduce the work of 16 cores, since 16 cores needs more energy. I wish AMD could put out a slider that you could set during run time to either cap voltage or cap clock speed. Power and heat start to increase exponentially at some point, and both Intel and AMD get you to the point where the rate of increase in power based on the clock speed is inefficient. Well, really it's exponential, it's just at lower clock speeds it looks linear. I'd like to see about 6 - 8 different settings for 170W TDP rated CPUs and maybe 4 settings for the 105W CPUs. I wouldn't want to take a 7700X for instance down to 65W ECO. Actually for the 7700X I would touch it because it's already slower and using less power, but if I bought the 7950X I'd want to set it at 150W Eco.
@johndoh5182
2 жыл бұрын
@@haridym kzitem.info/news/bejne/1qGpmqWHa3-JpYI about the nineteen and forty five mark. It can reduce system power by MORE than 100W so an incredible drop in power consumption for just the CPU. In fact in the chart is about 150W drop in system power, which is VERY impressive drop in power for just turning down the CPU. The drop in system power is about (330W - 180W gives difference = 150W) 150W/330W = 45% So, a 45% drop in SYSTEM power, down to 180W in the all-core load they were running, and the performance drop was (37,973 - 28,655 gives difference = 9318) 9318/37973 = 24.5% So, a 45% drop in SYSTEM power gave them a 25% drop in compute. I wouldn't run that. I wish AMD could put out an ECO mode for the 170W TDP parts of 150, 120, 105, 80 and 65. Now, this would probably make an AGESA VERY large, so what I'd rather see is a slider you can adjust in the OS to cap the frequency. After all that's all these adjustments do. I'd adjust a 7950X down to 150 or 120W and the 7900X down to either 120 or 105W. For the 105W TDP parts I'd like to see an 85W or 90W setting and 65W. For the 65W TDP parts that WILL come out in a few months, like probably summer 2023 (June - Aug), I'd like to see a 50W setting. And this is because there are many loads that just aren't very heavy and most users browsing the web, running office apps, etc.... don't need a CPU ramping up to 95 C and then gradually drifting down. I wouldn't need a Zen 4 CPU running over 5GHz either all core or single thread, UNTIL I'm gaming.
@paulmanington846
2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you guys do some Eco mode testing, and possibly when all the dust settles with the latest Zen 4, Raptor lake, Geforce 4000 and RDNA3 parts out, how about working out which is the most power-efficient gaming setup you can get? Maybe with some undervolting or power limiting on the graphics cards too?
@Manuel-rl6um
2 жыл бұрын
This would be very interesting
@Isaax
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for owning up to your Factorio mistake regarding the 5800X3D and being up front about it. The integrity is what makes this channel special.
@O-.-O
2 жыл бұрын
Integrity 😂
@raresmacovei8382
2 жыл бұрын
Man, 7800X3D in Eco mode is going to blow our minds.
@martytube821
2 жыл бұрын
And your pockets!
@klanas40
2 жыл бұрын
In laptop.
@iulian2548
2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that if intel's RaptorLake is not that completive, they will delay the 3D or make it unaffordable.
@nextjin
2 жыл бұрын
@@iulian2548 eh even a small 5% increase in IPC would make Intels parts superior for gaming. We should probably expect 10% or slightly higher. I’m expecting more of the same where Intel leads in gaming and AMD leads in most everything else while also gaming at very respectable performance. Intel still leads iirc in 0.1% lows which at this point is what matters for me since I game at 1440p.
@Singuy888
2 жыл бұрын
@@nextjin intel will guarantee to lead at making you swapping out the motherboard if you ever want to upgrade later.
@Rudolfik
2 жыл бұрын
I loved that you included memory scaling with 7600x as probably people buing it won't opt for the highest end kit. The review for 7700x is probably already waiting to drop on the channel but I would love to see a similar comparison for cooler scaling. Since they all try too boost to 95 degrees I think it important to know what is the difference between 200$ AiO and 50$ air cooler.
@Rudolfik
2 жыл бұрын
Now I see you already talked about it in the video 😅
@jjbankert
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for updating the factorio chart and mentioning factoriobox (which I didn't know about yet)! It's interesting to see how much improvement I should be able to get with a new cpu. 3-4x bigger bases here I come when the new X3D cpus launch :D
@manriquedanielmarperez7995
2 жыл бұрын
Your coverage of this CPUs is really awesome. I´ve seen GN, PCWORLD, LTT ,JAY videos on the same matter and your series has been far better. Really great production, info and time precise for the content. Excelent work.
@andrewsolis2988
2 жыл бұрын
You can tell when Steve is excited. He was glowing during his intro. AMD has brought back the competition and excitement. I am sure reviewers, such as HU, really appreciate that! I know I do as a consumer. Very excited for RDNA 3
@zdwaffles
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he got some before the show 😂
@yoltsbp
2 жыл бұрын
In gaming yeah for two weeks lol
@jorgemadrigal911
2 жыл бұрын
Lol bro. I9-13900k is the new king 🤴.
@diaman_d
2 жыл бұрын
but they all were biased and predetermined to ignore the intel 11th gen, shows just how reliable these youtube tech channels all are. Amateurs that live of the unknowing noob masses who think these guys are knowledgeable. These channels are sold out to marketing their personal favorites or what gives them the most gifts. These YT tech channels are pure poison. Next month they all will be lauding Intel 13th gen...... They have no soul. Who the heck wants a cpu that always tries to run at 95°c ??? If it were Intel nobody would want it, but when it's the fake underdog playing AMD then they all believe anything. AMD is no underdog, they lie just the same as all the rest of them and only idiots believe it all.
@metamon2704
2 жыл бұрын
I see there already some intard replies.
@ApexLodestar
2 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday, Steve! Great review and it seems the 7950X is a BEAST of a CPU. Don't think I'll upgrade right away though considering AM4 still has the 5800X3D.
@dennisjungbauer4467
2 жыл бұрын
Your bet wouldn't normally be on the 5800X3D for productivity though, it normally achieves even less performance than the 5800X - it's more intended for gaming or other cache-heavy workloads. Your bet would, fairly obviously, be the R9 5950X or 5900X (for a similar price of the 5800X3D).
@sicmic
2 жыл бұрын
@@dennisjungbauer4467 I'm pretty sure he's well aware of this.
@justwinclassic
2 жыл бұрын
This is outstanding and to reflect on the Zen3 chips, the 5800X3D is outstanding value for gaming if you cant or dont want to upgrade memory, motherboard AND CPU at once.
@Evilwombat
2 жыл бұрын
Yep - I have a 3600 atm. Planning to upgrade to a 5800X3D next year and not worry about my PC for another 3-4 years (except GPU)
@justwinclassic
2 жыл бұрын
@@Evilwombat Great plan. I've got a 5800X and im going to flog it as soon as the 5800X3d goes on sale
@mikeryan1043
2 жыл бұрын
@@brownie43212 No, that's exactly what makes sense. The 5800x3d is cheaper than all the upcoming cpus and still on par or stronger in gaming performance. It's more efficient with 105w, you can keep the Mainboard, you can keep your ddr4 ram. The only thing that'll cost you is the cou itself. You save easily 400-500$. Until DDR5 is going to have real benefits there will be new clock speed standards anyway. So, there is no real incentive to buy DDR5 or a new Mainboard now when the 5800x3d will be good for another 5 years anyway AND you safe money.
@xdelbarrio
2 жыл бұрын
@@Evilwombat if you have a midrange gpu personally I think a better use of your money would be to get a 5600x and upgrade your gpu doing both would be ideal but 400 dollars goes farther in a gpu than with the 5800x3D
@CheradenineZakalwe
2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeryan1043 can keep the PSU and Cooler as well with ny b450 Tomahawk:D
@THEpicND
2 жыл бұрын
Do a piece on eco mode please. Its the most exciting thing I’ve seen out of zen 4. It really seems like AMD designed this generation for laptop/ server and then made the power crank to hit desktop target. With 65w the 7950x was still better than the 12900k
@wcg66
2 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the most positive reviews I’ve seen so far of the new 7xxx series. So many reviews are fixated on 95c operating temperature and power consumption. More so, I’d say, than when the 12900K came out.
@orangezombies
2 жыл бұрын
Well to be honest they should it's a huge change for AMD. Not really a positive or negative honestly just kind of quiets all the AMD fanboys that scream super low power req versus previous gens. The wattage for a single core on 7950x is 52 watts vs 41 watts with 12900k. For gaming that's not a good thing, at all. Yet it has much lower power in work heavy tasks than a 12900k then destroys it, in work tasks only. There are high positives here but also some weird negatives too. Most people are just taking what they want to see and running with it as an agenda.
@MindaugasSnegirevas
2 жыл бұрын
@@orangezombies You shouldn't game with 7950X, everyone knows that. Ryzen 5 7600X dunks on the rest of them.
@reviewforthetube6485
2 жыл бұрын
As you see the i9 12900k still won the 12 game average lol
@MrZodiac011
2 жыл бұрын
Which is interesting because I reckon a 10900k probably gets higher temps than a 7900X or 7950X let alone an 11900k or 12900k, none of the Intel i9 #900k CPUs can be under 100% load without throttling on 95% of CPU coolers
@MrZodiac011
2 жыл бұрын
@@MindaugasSnegirevas Also, as for gaming on a 7950X, yeah sure, that's probably not cost effective, not good value, but I wouldn't buy a 7600X, I don't think anybody should, that's horrendous value, people said the 5600X was dumb, but the 7600X is around the same price but requires a more expensive board, and DDR5, while still being 6 cores and 12 threads which on most games would be 80-100% if you're playing above 100fps, my 5900X is often over 50%. 7800X minimum for gamers, or just get a 5000 part, the 7600X is way overpriced.
@Mi2Lethal
2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how amd clawed its way back to top in gaming performance since Zen 1, truly beautiful.
@sharathvasudev
2 жыл бұрын
not really Intel has been trading blows. good for us
@OC.TINYYY
2 жыл бұрын
But have they really? Raptor Lake just got unveiled today and has already made Zen 4 gains look worthless. Not going to get any better either next year for AMD w/ their 3d lineup against Meteor Lake.
@Mi2Lethal
2 жыл бұрын
@JeremyCuddles I meant compared to Zen 1 they've definitely come a long way
@cjpp78ytube
2 жыл бұрын
@JeremyCuddles AMD's GPU game is up there with Nvidia now. I've been super happy with my 6900xt that I got at msrp shortly after launch. trades blows with 3080 and 3090 depending on game. Ray tracing is not on par but thats really it right now as far as gaming. They might fix that with 7000 series though. AMD doesn't have to beat nvidia or be fastest , just be a competitive alternative thats priced well
@escescus
2 жыл бұрын
Ryzen 7 5800X3D is the true King!
@TheNerdy1
2 жыл бұрын
Steve, love these reviews! Thanks for all your hard work! I am looking forward to the motherboard/VRM reviews!
@HCG
2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to thank you for using chapter markers. It makes watching so much better, especially if you’re trying to go back to a specific point in the video or find specific information. Far too many content creators don’t utilize chapters which is a shame.
@thalo215
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting info. All these tests are gonna have to be redone when 4000 series and RDNA3 drops since its getting obvious we've hit a gpu bottleneck even with the 3090 Ti.
@GewelReal
2 жыл бұрын
Like every gen...
@theholt2ic219
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly you are probably correct we will not be sure what zen 4 and 13th are truly capable of in gaming until next gen GPUs drop.
@RodrigoLobosChile
2 жыл бұрын
Wow. The cost per performance chart is really good. You should use this review and benchmarks as a template and include Adobe, productivity tools.
@notblazedfordays9536
2 жыл бұрын
As a competitive gamer it looks like there’s no need for me to upgrade from my 5800x3d for now… thanks for the video!
@RetroTinkerer
2 жыл бұрын
ECO mode in gaming if your GPU is already maxed out or churning out 300+FPS could be interesting to see with different GPUs (how close it comes to its full potential), but in productivity what is the point, unless you are dealing with restrictions in the available cooling, like in a SFF build, the faster you produce content the more money you make right?
@ertai222
2 жыл бұрын
Depends if you're making more money than it costs to run the PC
@TheKeikomeow1
2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see testing done on eco mode on both the 7900X and the 7950X and see how much of performance loss there is for both gaming (little I would assume) and productivity tasks like blender and video editing. Please share that with us!!!
@stickfightjesser
2 жыл бұрын
Your production quality, speed of delivery, and overall content clarity for this round of CPUs has been extraordinary. Especially in regards to several other channels I follow as well. Much appreciate you guys and everything you do!
@naib_stilgar
2 жыл бұрын
A LOT of the gaming benchmarks appear to be GPU bottlenecked. I'm 100% sure the gap between 7950X and ADL will increase vastly once we have RDNA3.
@MLWJ1993
2 жыл бұрын
Uhhh, that's usually what happens with gaming which reinforces the statement that investing in the latest & greatest CPU for gaming is bad from a value perspective.
@naib_stilgar
2 жыл бұрын
@@MLWJ1993 I recently upgraded from a Ryzen 5 2600 to a Ryzen 5 2600X and I am getting, demostrably across a variety of games, around 15% more performance out of my RX 480. I can easily see that these CPUs would add a great deal of longevity and performance to a new gen GPU.
@igavinwood
2 жыл бұрын
I believe the benchmark results will get a bump up when paired with the next gen GPUs. I'm particularly interested in a full AMD set up of CPU and GPU having one homogenous platform could bring extra gains. Tiny Tina's Wonderlands doesn't give a result for the CPU as you state, it's GPU bound, so freeing the CPU with the next gen of GPU will highlight just how much performance has increased. That is a chart I'd like to see on the last and current gens of CPU to show the performance gains and note if there is a performance gain if using a full AMD system.
@TheArakan94
2 жыл бұрын
Can you test it in ECO mode please? :) I'd like to see the performance with power draw similar to 5950X..
@12463trf
2 жыл бұрын
I'm def waiting for the gen 13 reviews. But after Nvidia on the GPU front; it's looking like I may be going full team red for my new computer!
@koben
2 жыл бұрын
Steve, based on arstechnica review the performance penalty when set on 65W and 105W tdp on ryzen master isnt that bad but the power saving is huge. Can you probably test that?
@christofos
2 жыл бұрын
Hi! This isn't strictly related to Zen4, but when you review Raptor Lake, can you specifically do a video on if the gaming performance with E Cores + P Cores is fixed? I'm not super interested in upgrading from Alder Lake to Raptor Lake, but I know there are improvements to the ring clock and other things when both types of cores are available. If Raptor Lake gaming performance is unaffected by E Cores being enabled, this would be super helpful to know. Thanks!
@The76Malibu
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! A thermally limited CPU architecture. Imagine under LN2?! Great to see AMD on top again. AM5 is looking great as a new platform.
@giorx5
2 жыл бұрын
Those graphs are Threadripper-like for MT and the best in ST also. Such great performance for people that need to have a workstation isn't as expensive as most think imho.
@chibonchibon3967
2 жыл бұрын
Looking at the result made me glad with my 5800x, will stay on it until the end of zen 4
@pageup213
2 жыл бұрын
Just noticed the sub numbers jumping over 900k, 1 million subscriber milestone incoming!
@hehehehaismus
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always. I'm very excited how Intel will respond with their 13th Gen.
@pj491
2 жыл бұрын
Did you see their price leak? 7600x looks so horrible right now, AMD has to lower their prices for this particular processor.
@hehehehaismus
2 жыл бұрын
@@pj491 ye that's kinda true. I also can't imagine how a 6 core Processor can compete to a 14 core processor. I mean in gaming, cores aren't that important but in productivity..
@Ghastly10
2 жыл бұрын
@@hehehehaismus Exactly, without competition companies can pretty much do whatever they want. As most will all know about how Intel was pre AMD Ryzen, because of Ryzen it has spurred Intel to lift their game. Now AMD just have to do the same in the GPU market, to rein in Nvidia.
@rdmz135
2 жыл бұрын
@@hehehehaismus AMD knows no one will buy a 7600X for productivity. They expect creators to get a Ryzen 9.
@razorblazor571
2 жыл бұрын
Intel will respond by drawing even more power. We've already seen the leaks.
@Streaml1neJMoose
2 жыл бұрын
Do you measure test duration during R23? Would be interesting to calculate the total power consumed vs the others. Given that it's 60% faster or whatever than the 12900k but has relatively the same peak power draw it still consumes far less total power to do the job.
@miweneia
2 жыл бұрын
I really like how similar it is in gaming performance to the 7600x - that way you can get basically 1-2% off the best performance for 60% less money spent, unlike the case with intel's 12th gen cpus, where the 12600K and 12900K have around 20% performance difference.
@cesar427
2 жыл бұрын
En juegos o en productividad?
@JarrodsTech
2 жыл бұрын
🔥+⚡=💪
@mrduck7957
2 жыл бұрын
🔥 + ⚡= 🧨
@jemborg
2 жыл бұрын
Of course, if you want to game on it as well then you would use the Ryzen Master to lock off the other bank of cores and game on the first 8. (You should also turn off hyperthreading ideally.)
@corr2143
2 жыл бұрын
I just have to say as a blender user of 10 years, these blender benchmarks say little about the performance difference in blender itself. Users dont render with the CPU, its all GPU, I wish there was a benchmark of in-between frames if it was an animation for instance. But benchmarks can only go so far! Great work otherwise, thanks for all the insightful free information you've provided over the years!
@Outrider42
2 жыл бұрын
This is something I don't understand, and then they never test Blender with a GPU...because they are a gaming focused channel.
@Pjollemannen
2 жыл бұрын
Great job as always Steve, nice music at the end aswell.
@tkllluigi
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, i am really looking forward to buy the 7950x but i have to wait a bit to see more videos and collect more information.
@Kocan7
2 жыл бұрын
Looks way better than 7600x on expensive MOBO, I'm waiting for review of ECO modes of those parts, but I guess we need to wait a bit for it.
@G.W._Cook
2 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding me? I got the exact cooler and case for my upgrade to this very CPU. Couldn't have found a more relevant review. "Thanks Steve"
@Netsuko
2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how much AMD came out swinging with Ryzen every new generation. I can only imagine the gaming performance of the Zen4 X3D version...
@cpypcy
2 жыл бұрын
Can you even imagine 7800X3D and 7950X3D for Factorio players? Man this is going to be unbelievable!
@GewelReal
2 жыл бұрын
500 updates per second might be achievable
@jjbankert
2 жыл бұрын
I know right! Currently on 100 in that bench.
@petarracic6740
2 жыл бұрын
Looking good Steve did you drop a little weight? Excellent benchmarks as always. Cheers mate
@Frostie3672
2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the video testing different coolers as if I ever upgrade to Zen 4 I'll be using my existing noctua air cooler.
@haukionkannel
2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see test with $30 tower cooler, $60 tower cooler and $99 Tower cooler to see how much CPU cooler affect to this CPU. And then with hefty water cooler also. Could be interesting to see!
@RodrigoLobosChile
2 жыл бұрын
Why did you hide the AMD 7700X new video? I managed to have a look at it and I{m going to keep insisting on including Adobe PrPro, AE and Ps apps. The "cost per perf PrPro" chart is AWESOME, it appears the 7000 series is the way forward. Great video, re-published to the masses.
@N....
2 жыл бұрын
Where can I find the outro music song? Searching David Vonk / DaJaVo only leads back to the videos on this channel, I can't actually find the artist for some reason
@Hardwareunboxed
2 жыл бұрын
It's a Patreon member who made it for us.
@TheTaurus104
2 жыл бұрын
Thx for the right conclusion with the temperatures and no push the negative hype of that as the most content creators as example in germany. they make a problem that is not a problem in real.
@m_sedziwoj
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is big problem, I don't know what is reason, but most reviewers stop be objective.
@alexrose1ukv2
2 жыл бұрын
Cost per frame analysis was great, thanks for including that which most other reviewers seem to have left out :)
@phenom8944
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I'm just waiting to upgrade my 5600x to a 5950x when prices drop for some production I want to get into later on. Maybe get a strong RDNA3 or RDNA 4 GPU to game at max settings in stuff at high refresh rates. Not tempted to upgrade my entire system since am4 CPUs are still great and the bottleneck is still entirely on the gpu in resolutions 1440p and above.
@HexerPsy
2 жыл бұрын
Yesss! I wanna see the cooler vs clocks video! Please dont just include Cinebench single and multi threaded test, but also please figure out how many loaded threads it takes before the cooler hits 95C! I imagine a curve like... single thread, dual or triple thread being limited by max boost speed for stability instead of temps - and after it hits 95C its dropping clocks faster to stay within the thermal goal... Also what voltages are we seeing on single thread?
@UTFapollomarine7409
Жыл бұрын
i think the 5950x is still gonna be a really good chip for many more years to come for almost anything you can do
@meowzerus
2 жыл бұрын
I love the Factorio benchmark. Really shows off caching and memory bandwidth!
@jammetortiz808
2 жыл бұрын
Will you do ECO mode tests?
@XBnPC
2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely freaking Love the Master Chief CPU shots!!
@johnpaulbacon8320
Ай бұрын
Nicely done. Keep up the great work.
@T4ish0
2 жыл бұрын
Does it come with noise-canceling headphones?
@JayzBeerz
2 жыл бұрын
Still way over priced to upgrade. I'll keep my 5950X and 3080 ti for a few more years.
@tobytoxd
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing review video! Thank you very much! 🙏
@abhishekwadhawan5381
2 жыл бұрын
Last time i was this early, AMD were cooking eggs with bulldozer chips
@MrNova39X
2 жыл бұрын
Zen 4 with 3D cache will be an unimaginable beast, cant wait for that part 😁
@TrueThanny
2 жыл бұрын
You can only compare performance/watt with the same power usage. Set the 7950X to a 105W TDP like the 5950X, and you'll see just how much more performance per watt Zen 4 has. The fact that the latter is able to squeeze out another 10% performance by consuming considerably more power is a feature which one is not required to take advantage of. Just as one is not required to run Intel processors with unlocked power limits. Gaming performance with a 105W TDP would be the same. You'd only be dropping about 10% on all-core loads.
@SHUTENSEPC
2 жыл бұрын
Man, i want those shots with that figurine as my wallpaper 🥰
@Chopotz
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see 3600 still on the graph so that I don't have to upgrade to the new cpu for now. Thanks!
@user-zh9kc7tw4n
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review! Spot on!
@Valkirth
2 жыл бұрын
really good video, the only thing that i find odd is your cp2077 fps is off and i am not sure why, is that test with or without RTX on?, i currently have a ryzen 3600 with a 6700xt, 30" ultrawide at 2560x1080 on ultra and am getting 111 fps, other than that would like to see gaming power draw.
@luanphan2706
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, can you tell me where you got that Master Chief figure? I'm in Perth and is quite interested in getting myself one.
@plot1184
2 жыл бұрын
The Ryzen 5000 series still seems like the sweet spot in performance for watt.
@eilegz
2 жыл бұрын
great review, hopefully we see more memory settings comparison and with the 6900xt gpu for 1080p
@RafitoOoO
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Steve. Do you plan on redoing these gaming tests when the 4090 launches? A few of them seem to be bottlenecked by the GPU.
@ModulatorUK
2 жыл бұрын
Moving from Mac back to PC after many years. I want to build a computer with this processor. Specially for music production, video editing and gaming.
@catalystguitarguy
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review Steve. Will you be comparing the 3090ti and 6950xt on the 7950x later on?
@MDA1997
2 жыл бұрын
Currently using Ryzen 7 5800x with RTX 3060Ti and 16gigs of ram, it runs everything smooth at maxed out settings at 1080p and even Ray tracing ON doesn't cause stutters in demanding games. I think 7000 series is a bit of overkill and the 5000 series are still good enough for many people to hold and skip the next gen which is just power hungry and draws more heat.
@NFIGamingZone
7 ай бұрын
Thank you! I was afraid that my motherboard can't handle it because it can't give more power than 102W without throttling from VRM, who reaches in R23 122 °C after 3 minutes, while the CPU doesn't pass 60 °C on a FROSTFLOW 120 AIO Cooler. I used PBO to stop at 102W draw and I get ~23500 points after 10 minutes with stable 101 °C on VRM, 60 °C on CPU, 102W power draw! 1635 on single core! I'm still shocked that this run cooler than the the Ryzen 5 3600, who reached 71 °C on multicore and ~9200 points, 100W power draw. I definitely do a video on these amazing results! Motherboard is Gigabyte B450M DS3H V2, BIOS Update from 2023. If I let it with default settings I get ~26800, but after 3 minutes, because it reaches 122 on VRM, it drops to ~21500, while the power draw jumps constantly between 75W and 122W.
@Dionyzos
2 жыл бұрын
Those 3D versions will be extremely interesting
@dudao4163
2 жыл бұрын
Please do extensive test about Eco mode. Zen 4 wonder right there.
@LeeNashMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Pls include DAW benchmarks in those tests... Very specific type of computing, somehow nobody seems to care.
@andersjjensen
2 жыл бұрын
I really like the "Go to max temp" behaviour. That lets us control power efficiency with cooler choice. Given that the last 100MHz can easily chew 15% of the power budget I'm really looking forward to a "from basic $25 dollar tower cooler to 420mm all-out-crazy AIO"-style benchmark on power to performance ratio throughout the wattage range.
@placeholder42069
2 жыл бұрын
Can't find the new outro music, although it is mentioned in the video description :< help !
@RoniAmikam
2 жыл бұрын
Why only 1080p? where's 1440p and 4K?
@lunsmann
2 жыл бұрын
Already got the 7900x on my PCCG wishlist. However, as my current i7-8086k platform is giving my rtx3080 equipped gaming rig sufficient performance in the games I play, this is really just an academic interest. Will monitor the performance benchmarks at 4k resolution. I use a 43 inch 4k ASUS ROG 144hz monitor.
@ItPutsTheLotionOnItsSkin
2 жыл бұрын
Wish you included Threadripper because this might be a good upgrade over my 3960X. Even with 8 less cores the 7950X should still be faster in multithreaded workloads, and obviously destroy it in single threaded workloads.
@scarletspidernz
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah hopefully in a few weeks they can do 3950x/5950x/7950x& Threadrippers to see how thats faired for vs HEDT
@kzip2009
2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work champ
@乾淨核能
2 жыл бұрын
did you enable the intel quicksync in video encoding? thank you!
@Rudolfik
2 жыл бұрын
All this work with benchmarking and you know it is all gonna to have to be redone in 2 weeks and then again in 2 weeks after that and then again probably in another 2 weeks.
@Hardwareunboxed
2 жыл бұрын
Exciting isn't it.
@lasvista2tech
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing groundbreaking, im staying with my 5900x for next few generations
@Kerrathul
2 жыл бұрын
The most important missing features of the 7950x for some professionals is the limited number of PCI-E lanes with only 24 usable and "limited" maximum memory. This is far less of a problem if everything was already Gen 4 as specialty cards would use far fewer lanes, but many are still gen 2! I've maxed out my HEDT 40 lane processors in many workstations with add on cards for fiber network connectivity, multiple graphics, etc. Threadripper Pro has 128 PCI-E 4 lanes and 8 memory channels. So, I wouldn't say that the 7950x "does everything" as workstations that need a terabyte of memory and many add-on cards can't use the processor, even if it would be able to compute faster than the processors these workstations do use. Which is unfortunate! I wish true workstation class processors came out with the mainstream desktop ones.
@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt
2 жыл бұрын
I'm itching to buy something, does anyone know when the Raptor Lake review embargo lifts so we can see which is better and at what? Another great video, thanks Steve.
@Bryan-T
2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see some benchmarks with the 7950 and 7900 tested with one of the CCD disabled and SMT disabled.
@singular9
2 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of "negativity" about this AMD launch, but people forget, this is a 25% gen-to-gen performance increase, AND it will be supported for several years. 13th gen will need new motherboard and ram as well. Long term, AMD has always won in value, its just more pro consumer, and even if the price's could be lower, you can't deny that ryzen 5000 is now dirty cheap.
@darudesandstorm7002
2 жыл бұрын
probably because everyone thought amd would be getting these high performance numbers with a modest increase in power consumption thanks to a newer revision and better node. instead they pulled an intel and are running them on the ragged edge at temperatures (95c, seriously? lol) that wouldve caused most to quickly pull the power cord to prevent cooking the cpu. one can only wonder if theyll be doing the same with rdna3.
@MLWJ1993
2 жыл бұрын
Intel 13th gen will work fine on the same motherboard as 12th gen (including DDR4 support)? 🤔 Not sure what you're on about there.
@wwlittlejOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
AMD straight flexin... BIG CPU energy! Damn.
@cosmiczeppelin
2 жыл бұрын
Why aren't you testing Eco Mode?
@yanmew
2 жыл бұрын
Are the coolers advertised as am4 compatible also compatible with the am5 socket?
@magnanimus9692
2 жыл бұрын
The 16-core 7950x scored a 336 on the blender render and the 24-core threadripper 3960x scored a 332 😳
@marsovac
2 жыл бұрын
Would you consider doing EcoMode tests or just plain manual CBS > NBIO > SMU > Package Power Limit at some steps? Gordon from PC World hints that it beats the 12900K even at 65W?? I would like your more meticulous and trustworthy data.
@coolvinay
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, it would be great if you could also include gaming power consumption for comparision. Thanks!
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