Ramsay was just as evil as Joffrey, but a lot scarier. Joffrey was a sniveling coward. But Ramsay was eager to fight his own fights. And he was terrifyingly good at manipulating his opponents.
@mars7304
9 ай бұрын
Ramsay is a grown man fueled by a family obsessed with power as a means to an end. Joffrey was a boy king with narcissism. The two are not the same.
@invisibleman4827
9 ай бұрын
Joffrey is someone who is so ott and larger-than-life that there's something kinda camp about him, while Ramsay is a more grounded brutal thug, and feels more real.
@Bombadil-ez9ns
9 ай бұрын
@invisibleman4827 Joffrey was based on the real life Roman emperor Caligula. (Personally, I thought they made Euron Greyjoy over the top and campy. It was tough enough to keep their villains realistic as long as they did.)
@jameslough6329
9 ай бұрын
@@invisibleman4827 I didn't find Joffrey campy. He was an immature and sociopathic teenage boy put in charge of a kingdom that he clearly didn't have the responsibility to rule. You also have to keep in mind that mental illnesses such as ASPD weren't recognized or treatable in the time period that Game of Thrones was set in. In addition, given how bloodthirsty Joffrey's family was, it is heavily implied that his sadistic and sociopathic tendencies were encouraged rather than reprimanded. I guarantee you there are people in real life who would act in a similar way to him if they had the power he did and a lack of any treatment options for their mental illnesses.
@invisibleman4827
9 ай бұрын
@jameslough6329 Fair enough, he obviously is cut from the same cloth, it's more that he's very exaggerated in a way that we don't really see day to day mostly, but Bolton feels more real.
@krism.6598
9 ай бұрын
You know a character is evil when even his actor was waiting for the writers to kill him off.
@daniellirette7226
9 ай бұрын
I saw an interview with the actor and he mentioned fans coming up to him in public telling him how much they love his character and his response was usually “wtf is wrong with you?” 🤣
@nont18411
9 ай бұрын
And by GRRM’s logic, the more evil a character, the harder it is to write them off.
@wormfood83
9 ай бұрын
Or when you take your mother to the screening and she cheers when your character dies. Didn't happen here, but it did happen to Paul Reiser when his character Burke in Aliens got killed.
@GonzoShitcock
9 ай бұрын
...and you know a show is good when at least 3 characters appear on "Analyzing Evil"...
@SirBallsDeepOfHouseManthrust
9 ай бұрын
@@daniellirette7226I don’t see what’s so wrong with loving a fictional character. Like, he’s a fake character in a fantasy world. If you went up to Pol Pot or something and said you’re a huge fan that would be different.
@danielsantiagourtado3430
9 ай бұрын
"If you think this has a happy ending, you havent veen paying attention" that line still gives me chills
@JaketheJust
9 ай бұрын
Yeah, the ending was disappointing. But Ramsey’s ending was satisfying
@CaitiffFTW
9 ай бұрын
@@Darius-_No. They had the original ending, as planned by GRRM. I think GRRM did it as a test for his originally intended conclusion. That's why the sixth book is taking so long. He has to figure out how to unforeshadow the things he's already placed into motion.
@papadoc331
9 ай бұрын
@@JaketheJust i think it was pretty satisfaying
@franciscvmpbell
9 ай бұрын
@@CaitiffFTWthis isn’t true. He said it in interviews, that if the fans find out the butler did it, and everything points to the butler doing it, then he’s not gonna change that because it’ll undo everything done before. It doesn’t matter either way, it’s not what happens, it’s how it’s executed. And we don’t know to what extent they stuck to his story points. I personally believe aria will not kill the night king, there’s no night king to kill, there won’t be a pointless expedition north to bring back a walker, Jon won’t be sent back to the non-existent nights watch, etc. a lot of things won’t happen like they did in the show. They changed many things already back when they were sticking to the books and George was writing for the show. The books are a different entity, and should be treated as such.
@Tarnished-bn5gq
9 ай бұрын
It sums up the whole series tbh. You weren’t supposed to expect a happy ending, it’s Game of Thrones ffs.
@danielsantiagourtado3430
9 ай бұрын
"i prefer beign an only child" more than a depraved reflection of jon, Ramsay was the living breathing embodiment of all negative steriotype about bastards in westeros
@BRouge
9 ай бұрын
Wouldn't he be a reflection of Gendry? Since Jon isn't one? Ned save the bastard of Robert - Ramsey kill Ned true Born son Ramsay raped Sansa Gendry had Arya's consent One serve the Lannister the other run from them...
@alilweeb7684
9 ай бұрын
@@BRougeall show bullshit.
@satinarmor
9 ай бұрын
@@BRouge I think the comment is based on the book versions of the characters where Jon isn’t confirmed to be a targ yet
@genesisSOC
9 ай бұрын
Fun fact: the actor who played Ramsey was almost chosen to be Jon Snow and even had auditioned for it
@my_girl_seraphine5294
9 ай бұрын
@@genesisSOC Now I’m trying to picture the actress switching their roles to each other
@emissaryofthecows3389
9 ай бұрын
Your explanation of Roose's mentality versus Ramsey's was very enlightening. It makes sense to describe both as monsters, but where Roose is a well dressed vampire, able to walk among men with a mask of normalcy, Ramsey is a gluttonous ghoul, unable to appear human if he were even bothered to try.
@darth856
9 ай бұрын
There is even a conversation between them in the books about this. Roose chides Ramsey for being too open about his true nature. "Your amusements are your own, I will not chide you on that count, but you must be discreet."
@AnotherGenericUsername
9 ай бұрын
Ramsey Bolton was a very savage character. His actor did an absolutely amazing job showing off his brutality. Amazing work as always 🎉
@oghaze9318
9 ай бұрын
You know an actor is talented when he can go from socially awkward panty sniffer to brutal bdsm lover
@sebastianprimomija8375
9 ай бұрын
@@oghaze9318 Are you talking about Simon Bellamy from Misfits? Yeah Iwan Rheon was great in that.
@Banquet42
9 ай бұрын
It's impossible to do Nathan's delivery justice but I laughed at this exchange made me laugh. "INo offence but you look like you'd have sex with your sister for a piece of cheese." "I don't even like cheese." "That makes it even worse."
@tamiwatchesstuff
9 ай бұрын
True. My one gripe for the casting was that he was way too handsome for the part. Ramsey was known to be very unattractive in the books. Other than that he was great in the role.
@charlesfarmer5250
9 ай бұрын
Yes, his actor definitely did an awesome job
@tonybippitykaye
9 ай бұрын
Ramsey is one of the few characters in fiction that inspires nothing but disdain and horror for me personally. Joffrey was a monster, but I’d go as far as to say Ramsey was FAR more vicious and cruel in just how much pain he inflicted and how much joy it brought him.
@трыцтытыдыц
9 ай бұрын
Basically, Joffrey is a sadistic spoiled child, but Ramsay is cold-blooded, cunning, full-grown monster.
@MeatCatCheesyBlaster
9 ай бұрын
Well Joffrey never got to be as old as Ramsay, but he surely would have been just as bad
@benguensche
9 ай бұрын
Disdain
@tonybippitykaye
9 ай бұрын
@@трыцтытыдыц agreed: Joffrey was a spoiled brat with no restraints and unlimited power; Ramsay was a born bastard living in the shadow of his fathers sins and embodying everything that made him awful, but FAR worse
@tonybippitykaye
9 ай бұрын
@@benguensche Thank you for the correction friend.
@milesrinesmith141
9 ай бұрын
When Sansa fed Ramsey to his dogs that moment was fantastic.
@s66s46
8 ай бұрын
Which we saw more of it
@AppleGonCrumble
8 ай бұрын
No it wasn't. It was plot armor garbage that even landed them in that spot. Ramsey won the battle of the bastards and if DnD hadn't bought into main character syndrome Jon would have died there and Ramsey wouldn't have been captured. Sansa riding into save the day with little finger only happened because the writers forgot how long it takes to travel places. It was a trash ending to a great character and anyone who enjoyed it is literally the reason why the show declined so bad.
@BlazedAzn
7 ай бұрын
Not realistic. Honestly, if that fate happened in the actual book-based off the character of Ramsey-he’d enjoy it to the point where it’s unsettling. He’s a demon.
@obiwon1237
7 ай бұрын
@@AppleGonCrumbleI thoughtit was a disapointing end to the character.
@amortuus_
6 ай бұрын
@@AppleGonCrumblebased
@andu1854
9 ай бұрын
Sansa reminded him His hounds were starving and the “oh uh” look on Ramsey before they rip that little homicidal maniac was the best
@carynfisher9463
9 ай бұрын
I love that moment in the show, because it was so great for Sansa to have such a badass moment, especially over Ramsay, but when Sansa tells him "You haven't fed them in seven days, you said it yourself" bugs me a tiny bit. Sansa wasn't there when Ramsay says that. I can tell myself that Jon must have told her about it, but why would Jon have done so? It's sloppy writing, a thing that plagued the later seasons of GoT.
@homelander39
9 ай бұрын
Except that she wasn’t at the meeting anymore when he said that…scene was great though
@GG-xx9ep
8 ай бұрын
*The whole world* "Joffrey is the most despicable and hateful character ever." Ramsay : "Hold my sausage, Reek."
@tims_always_fishing7117
5 ай бұрын
😅 you deserve a comment bro
@harrybanwell1012
2 ай бұрын
Brilliant 😂😂😂
@Hingbacon_2
Ай бұрын
Beautiful comment
@ErinMitchell-ml4vl
24 күн бұрын
U are SICK annnnnnnd HILARIOUS 😂😂😂😂
@teearat
9 ай бұрын
I have been a fan of Iwan Rheon since Misfits. When they announced he would be Ramsey. I was like, how can this man with these big expressive innocent eyes play such a monster? I gotta see this. There is no way. I was completely shook and terrified. His portrayal was outstanding.
@TheMalmut
6 ай бұрын
Having recently gotten into Misfits, I am impressed by his acting skills, nailing such polar opposites.
@KROGANLovesKittensAndPuppies
9 ай бұрын
I don't think Lady Hornwood chewed off her fingers out of starvation. The Northmen are the ones who believed this was the reason she did it, but they know little of Ramsay at this point in the story. Ramsay's favorite method of torture is skinning a person's finger and leaving them in agony for days. I think it's more likely that Ramsay had her fingers skinned, and she chewed them off to end the pain. If it was done out of starvation, why did she stop at her fingers?
@AwesomeMusicLady
8 ай бұрын
It’s a detail you notice when you read the books more than once. You miss it the first time.
@97CelticPredator
8 ай бұрын
Holy hell, I've read them so many times and just realized it thanks to you. I just took the word of Ser Rodrik, but it makes totally sense that he would think that. He would have no idea that anybody would be so evil and skin people's fingers and let them suffer like that until they chew it off. I have to check the wikis to see if anybody else had that theory.
@ajb117
7 ай бұрын
This point is even more emphasized when in the POV of Theon he remembers how Ramsey flayed a couple of his fingers, and he begged them to cut them off just to stop the pain! I believe he was even punished for trying to chew them off but I don’t fully remember.
@MickeyP1230
3 ай бұрын
The starvation route never made much sense to me. If I'm hungry enough to eat a part of myself I wouldn't go for the fingers, they don't have meat on them. 🤔
@LycanVisuals
9 ай бұрын
Him wiggling that sausage in front of Theon will always be one of my favorites moments of him lol
@HumanHamCube
9 ай бұрын
And makes eye contact the entire time he's eating it like a slob.
@Captain_Insano_nomercy
9 ай бұрын
Yet we can't say the R word...weird double standards
@tylerhill40
9 ай бұрын
His name is Meat xD
@KazuyaKai1012
9 ай бұрын
"noo it's a pork sausage, do you really think I'm some sort of a savage?" 😂
@yourguyeli
9 ай бұрын
Feel an itch?
@jrgenvellesen7800
9 ай бұрын
Iwan Rheon did a fantastic job in bringing this monster to life. Truly the Bastard of Bastards! Would be fun to see a video on Krampus!
@crylec6534
9 ай бұрын
It crazy he was trying to get the role of Jon Snow. I cannot imagine.
@ToeKnife166
9 ай бұрын
@@crylec6534Iwan could have pulled of John, he can play a softer loveable character too.
@crylec6534
9 ай бұрын
@@ToeKnife166 Perhaps, but mentally picturing Iwan as Jon is hard since I think of Ramsay.
@AdoreYouInAshXI
5 ай бұрын
He did a good job if you've never read the books before watching the show. Unfortunately for me I had a completely different mental image of Ramsay based on the description of him and his actions (many of which aren't known in the show), and Iwan Rheon came off as more of a sadistic little hobbit than an intimidating, evil and twisted monster like the book version is.
@multimediafan6777
9 ай бұрын
Ewan Rheon's portrayal of Ramsay was chilling and deeply disturbing... One of the best villains in recent media👏👏👏
@AdoreYouInAshXI
5 ай бұрын
Eh, he wasn't bad. But his portrayal was nothing like the book version. Honestly wasn't the best casting decision. Show Ramsay was like an evil little hobbit.
@MDFT2000
9 ай бұрын
FINALLY For my money, Ramsay is the scariest character. Embodiment of pure evil. Somebody who doesn't want to kill you, but subject you to far, far worse things than death. A captivating performance really does go a long way. Looking forward to your Euron video now
@rikacanon87
9 ай бұрын
I remember binge-watching this series and missing Joffery. That is how bad Ramsey was in the series. He makes the Ice King look like a princess.
@AlmostEthical
9 ай бұрын
As with the Lannisters, the patriarch was focused and political while their heirs were twisted and self-indulgent.
@Justmonika6969
3 ай бұрын
I guess the lesson is that evil becomes more overt as it passes along generations. The fathers didn't teach their sons how to reel back on their violent tendencies and to pursue power at any cost, causing their sons to become sadistic monsters which is really sad in a way. Both Joffrey and Ramsey, technically speaking, were not born evil but made evil by their evil fathers. (And were promptly eliminated by their kin)
@AlmostEthical
3 ай бұрын
@@Justmonika6969 Agree, except that Joffrey was made evil by Cersei.
@CircusoftheMoon
9 күн бұрын
Just a bunch of nepo babies of evil.
@daniell1483
9 ай бұрын
Ramsay is one of the most fascinating villains of ASOIAF. Nobody really understands what kind of beast he is until it is far too late. This is best exemplified by the scene where Roose presents Cat with a strip of Theon's skin (flayed by Ramsay): Cat wants to treasure the macabre trophy, but she resists the impulse. She thinks Theon killed Bran and Rickon, so we understand how she might delight in Theon's suffering. And yet, it was Ramsay, not Theon, who put Winterfell to the sword and burned the Stark fortress. Ramsay's brutality led to the unraveling of Stark loyalists in the North, enabling the Red Wedding in the first place.
@fabriziocolaianni7310
9 ай бұрын
I have always been intrigued by Domeric Bolton, Ramsay's older brother. There isn't alot about him but what there is speaks about him as a noble, well loved and honorable man, a man that even sadistic Roose Bolton admired. Unfortunately, we know what happened to poor Domeric
@HoldmyReek
5 ай бұрын
Poisoned by his enemies just like his father,RIP both
@vanbatenburg
2 ай бұрын
“Noble, well loved and honorable” - you’re basically describing a totally uninteresting character
@erinjean2695
Ай бұрын
You don’t have to be an evil rotten sadistic jerk to be an interesting person.
@HOTD108_
24 күн бұрын
@@vanbatenburg Yeah, because Ned Stark is so uninteresting. I'm sure nobody will care if he were to die suddenly. 🙄
@ledam2654
3 күн бұрын
@vanbatenburg Good characters don't have to be uninteresting, seems like you just glorify satanic degenerates.
@Jackal_El_Lobo34
9 ай бұрын
Ah yes the #1 most hatable villain of all time. From him cutting up Theon, to raping Sansa, to murdering John Snow’s brother, to murdering children, to feeding women to his dogs, and to slaughtering a mass of innocent people. The countless atrocities this murder has committed is repulsive.
@cholericimp1358
9 ай бұрын
I thought it was kinda based
@Justmonika6969
3 ай бұрын
@@cholericimp1358 The only based thing about Ramsey was how he went out: painfully ripped apart and devoured by his own dogs he starved. That's the one thing they got right in the entire later seasons.
@UnswimmingFishYT
9 ай бұрын
He's definitely one of the most evil characters looked at here. It would be challenging to write someone more horrible without essentially just writing a devil figure.
@benderthepirate
9 ай бұрын
So Euron Greyjoy.
@bloomins8088
9 ай бұрын
@@benderthepirateI would argue that Euron was more of a shadow of Ramsay. More of a... joke? For lack of a better word.
@benderthepirate
9 ай бұрын
@@bloomins8088 Oh, I’m talking about Euron in the books. Show Euron and Book Euron are completely different characters. Show Euron is definitely a joke. Book Euron is not a joke at all. He is basically the Antichrist.
@munken7673
9 ай бұрын
So Book Ramsay and Euron
@UnswimmingFishYT
9 ай бұрын
@@munken7673 When I say a devil, it seems like people misunderstand. I mean something like Molag Bal or Morgoth. The characters who in their own worlds are actually seen like the devil, and who pretty much just embody every evil thing that you could think of.
@dlbarnes
9 ай бұрын
Ramsey Bolton, man, this character was on another level. Keep up the great work
@mars7304
9 ай бұрын
@@voidw4lker is this a troll? A Song of Ice and Fire is not a Christian story.
@mars7304
9 ай бұрын
@@voidw4lker the book has multiple religions, incest, murder of multiple children, implications of beastiality, and occult practices. If you're some devout Christian, you won't like the series. Sorry.
@mars7304
9 ай бұрын
@@voidw4lker yikes, gonna block and move on. Not the reply I was expecting.
@madman00774
9 ай бұрын
@@voidw4lker Makes sense since you're a Christian. Forgot to mention how realistic Game of Thrones portrays your religious world with High Sparrow and his little cult being one of the worst people on the entire series!
@mars7304
9 ай бұрын
@@Darius-_ anti-theism is fine in the face of centuries of religious theocratic rule we've seen in the real world. High Sparrow is shit compared to Melissandre, the Faceless Men, or any other religious stand-in GRRM included.
@aliz4467
9 ай бұрын
Thank you for utilizing proper credits for the Artwork in this video. Crediting Artists for their efforts is so important. It's greatly appreciated.
@SUPERTROOPER89
3 ай бұрын
In the epic words of a dinner guest 'a pure psychopath, so rare to capture one alive'
@madman00774
9 ай бұрын
Love your video! Ramsay Bolton is the absolute definition of pure evil! His the only character in GOT that can make Joffrey look like a saint!
@darthsilversith667
9 ай бұрын
No.. they’re on the same level
@360entertainment2
9 ай бұрын
@@darthsilversith667not really, Ramsay liked to toy with his captives and break them while Joffrey was more of a bully who could be manipulated!
@pysky4u
9 ай бұрын
@@darthsilversith667eh, Joffrey is like the spoiled teenager that falls into a position of power. He acts solely on impulse
@yggdrasil2
9 ай бұрын
To quote Macabre Storytelling, Joffrey is Squirtle, Ramsay is Wartortle, Euron the Crow's Eye Greyjoy is Blastoise.
@darthsilversith667
9 ай бұрын
@@360entertainment2 Did Joffery not like to toy with his victims and break them?
@thedarkside314
2 ай бұрын
That "I will always be a part of you now" is a horrifying line.
@Marconius-SPQR
9 ай бұрын
Everyone HATES Ramsay Bolton, no questions. Kudos to the actor for an outstanding portrayal of raw evil.
@josepha3805
Ай бұрын
I ❤ Ramsey Bolton
@Mimi-cq4bg
9 ай бұрын
Utterly incredibly well written character and played so well by Iwan Rheon
@danieldeclue1466
5 ай бұрын
😂"There's a STARK difference between Ramsay and his father." Well put, literally AND figuratively.
@samrizzardi2213
9 ай бұрын
I think I speak for many fans of traditional animation when I say *General Woundwort* from _Watership Down_ would be a great villain to analyse.
@toaderdaniel6790
9 ай бұрын
Woundwort!!! Now that would be something. I've only recently rewatched that animation. Just might be my favorite animation.
@admiralbutt
9 ай бұрын
Yes! Watership Down is fantastic!
@darthjamula
9 ай бұрын
"This isn't happening to you for a reason. Well, one reason: I enjoy it."
@T.elegram...TheVileEye
9 ай бұрын
Christmas gift awaiting🎄✍️
@davidknight2104
5 ай бұрын
"Ruling by fear, that time is always short" Tywin Lannister entered the chat
@tylerthompson1842
6 ай бұрын
The actor who played him was so brilliant. All the villains in the show were brilliant but Ramsey was extra special
@Dreadfort-ho8lg
9 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! I waited for this character study for a year. I love this antagonist and Iwan Rheon Perfromance only made him better as a character. Littlefinger would be my other favourite pic for a take.
@AdoreYouInAshXI
5 ай бұрын
Iwan Rheon was great if you've never read the books before watching the show. Unfortunately for me he was nothing like what I envisioned. He felt more like a sadistic little hobbit than the terrifying monster than Ramsay was in the books. Edit - Roose Bolton in the show was also a huge letdown.
@Dreadfort-ho8lg
5 ай бұрын
@@AdoreYouInAshXI I see your point. Making Ramsay less oger-like was a bolt move, but it fits with his tedency to not getting brutal directly, rather letting you feel the horror under the Surface. His unpredictability is my favourite Part of the book version and it was really brought to life by Rheon.
@JustTooDamnHonest
9 ай бұрын
Ramsey Snow/Bolton has earned his place among the most evil sadistic psychopaths on this channel and I'm glad that you did this one VE for he was one of my early votes for a video.
@T.elegram...TheVileEye
9 ай бұрын
Christmas gift awaiting. 🎄✍️
@stairwaytoheaven8
9 ай бұрын
Nope, alex delarge was way more dereanged and psychopathic, he drugged, beat and raped 10 years old girls in the book
@josepha3805
Ай бұрын
He's misunderstood, ultimately.
@AtticusTheDeathMetaller
9 ай бұрын
Him along with book Euron are the most terrifying Villains of ASOIAF.
@dukes1993724
9 ай бұрын
The show portrayed Euron as a joke. No need for Vile to cover that disappointment lol
@AtticusTheDeathMetaller
9 ай бұрын
@@dukes1993724 no lies detected.
@AdoreYouInAshXI
5 ай бұрын
@@dukes1993724 For real man. I was so excited for his entrance into the show (that's back when I still held hope for the show), and when he turned out to just be a horny pirate I was so disappointed.
@kamalalsb7292
9 ай бұрын
"No one else in the world could match his Sadism and cruelty" somewhere, Maegor the Cruel is laughing.
@satinarmor
9 ай бұрын
Not excusing his actions at all but Maegor was somewhat a necessary evil to ensure the targs would survive, Ramsay was just evil
@kamalalsb7292
9 ай бұрын
@@satinarmor yeah I've heard this excuse, but actually - no? He didn't really *solve* any of the problems that ensured the Targ dynasty survived, he just delayed them. Future generations and successors had to actually resolve the issues because his one response was brutal violence.
@thisisboxingproductions6894
9 ай бұрын
Euron Greyjoy enters the chat
@maxomat4319
9 ай бұрын
@@kamalalsb7292 he broke the faith militants. They would have never stopped trying to get rid of the Targs, because of their incest.
@kamalalsb7292
9 ай бұрын
@@maxomat4319 IIRC, he broke them *yes*, but the came back not long after and a more permanent agreement had to be established with the faith, specifically the whole law of Targaryen Exceptionalism? The problems with the faith only really calmed down THEN.
@RyanRedfox
9 ай бұрын
I’m far more interested in Roose Bolton than Ramsay in the next books. Ramsay’s behavior is abhorrent, yes, but it’s said that he is only the shadow of his father. Ramsay has all the classic traits of a sociopath or psychopath (whichever category he falls in) but Roose is almost inhuman. Not because of his cruelty but just…him. He speaks a hair above a whisper so that men quiet to hear him. He is cold and calculating and impassive to everything it seems. Ramsay is barbarically brutal and has a sort of low cunning, but let’s be honest he is pretty stupid. Roose Bolton has so much potential in the next book and I hope his character isn’t wasted as a one note bad guy. “Roose has no feelings, you see. Those leeches that he loves so well sucked all the passions out of him years ago. He does not love, he does not hate, he does not grieve. This is a game to him, mildly diverting. Some men hunt, some hawk, some tumble dice. Roose plays with men. You and me, these Freys, Lord Manderly, his plump new wife, even his bastard, we are but his playthings.” “Roose: Lord Tywin is many leagues from here. He has many matters yet to settle at King's Landing. He will not march on Harrenhal for some time. Aenys: You do not know the Lannisters as we do, my lord. King Stannis thought Lord Tywin was a thousand leagues away as well, and it undid him. The pale man in the bed smiled faintly as the leeches nursed of his blood. Roose: I am not a man to be undone, ser.” *AND MY PERSONAL FAVORITE QUOTE* “All you have I gave you. You would do well to remember that, bastard. As for this ... Reek ... if you have not ruined him beyond redemption, he may yet be of some use to us. Get the keys and remove those chains from him, before you make me rue the day I raped your mother.”
@atlas956
2 ай бұрын
that’s a really interesting take… i suppose Roose is less predictable, like that, which makes him more terrifying? Like, at least with Ramsay, if you manage to stay out of his general vicinity, you’re safe. He’s not very hard to recognise as insane and dangerous (unless he actively tries to hide it). Roose is a whole different story, because there’s a method to his madness, and he has the intelligence, political skill and restraint that Ramsay lacks.
@jameslough6329
9 ай бұрын
My dad was a huge Game of Thrones fan for a long time. He read all the books and watched the entire TV series (at least up to the travesty that was season 8). However, he said that the moment he started to drift away from the book series was when he read what Ramsay did to Theon. He said that he found that the books described Theon's torture and emasculation in such grotesque and sickening detail that he debated whether or not to skip the pages that described it. After having read the books for myself as of now, I understand what he meant...
@AdoreYouInAshXI
5 ай бұрын
The books don't even confirm that he was "emasculated", let alone go into it in detail.
@hypello9534
3 ай бұрын
Think in the books theon just shows up as reek, its never explained what ramsey does to him. If i remember correct
@celebritytarotreading3545
3 ай бұрын
A crazy GOT fan and skipped all those part.. Too scary to watch or read
@AdoreYouInAshXI
3 ай бұрын
@@celebritytarotreading3545 you didn’t read the book. They’re not even in the book.
@celebritytarotreading3545
3 ай бұрын
@@AdoreYouInAshXI No I did not read the part where ramsey was there cause I watched the series first. And even there I skipped everything
@cincinnatuscincinnatus8541
9 ай бұрын
Such a great actor, actually both of them are great actors
@joshuaherbert30
Ай бұрын
In the books it's possible that Ramsay is gonna kill his father and half the northern lords by sabotaging the roof of the great hall burying them all under tons of snow.
@mikepaulus4766
4 ай бұрын
My hatred of the greyjoys is so great that I think Ramsay is an anti-villain.
@AdoreYouInAshXI
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for covering so much of book Ramsay. I was worried this would only be about the show version. The book version is far more twisted, interesting and evil. He's also much more terrifying both physically and mentally. Now, please do a video on The Mountain That Rides, Gregor Clegane (and maybe even a dedicated video for Roose Bolton, as he has far more information than in this video as I'm sure you already know)!
@jodiweinstein858
9 ай бұрын
Thanks! I have to say. I have been a member since the episode off Darth Vader. I finally am at a point where my wife and I can support the Chanel. No need to post this on your next video. Thank you again. You have opened our lives up to hundreds of movies that we now own.
@TheVileEye
9 ай бұрын
My pleasure friend, and I appreciate the support! Never a requirement but I’m very grateful and humbled to have made any sort of impact on your lives.
@我主也
9 ай бұрын
Just always remember: the son is a shadow of the father... Ramsay may be uncontrollable, but that only causes everyone to despise him - Roose does everything Ramsay does, and worse, but keeps his land and people peaceful and so doesnt get caught 💀
@andersfrieden567
4 ай бұрын
I thought the show's Ramsey was a disgusting psychopath, but then I read the books, and oh boy, his barbaric wild sociopathic behaviour there was even more terrifyingly cruel.
@mr.rodgers9891
6 ай бұрын
Torturing Reek to the point he is too afraid of harming Ramsey. That is power. That shaving scene still gets me.
@camakaze1330
9 ай бұрын
Surprising to see the amount of Ramsey-Joffrey comparisons in the comments. Ramsey-Euron is much more interesting to me
@tammyventer5488
9 ай бұрын
When Ramsey says to Sansa: “you can’t kill me, I’m a part of you now.” I see a it from a different perspective. Had Sansa not been so brutalised by Ramsey, she would never have killed him by having his dogs eat him. When she did that, she allowed Ramsey to become a part of her because that is something Ramsey would do. She learned that from Ramsey. So Ramsey won in the end & he did become a part of her because she killed him the way that he taught her.
@bridgettawinchester3063
7 ай бұрын
I assumed she was pregnant
@UnifiedEntity
5 ай бұрын
Sansa doesn't carry on with senseless brutality to her enemies or just people in general.
@tescoelvis4092
9 ай бұрын
Been waiting on this specific episode a while, glad to see Ramsay being covered, without a doubt the most sadistic GOT character. Thanks again Vile Eye 🖤
@lindadeal3344
9 ай бұрын
Loved how you handled the situation of Ramsey Bolton!Basically something to get through and go on with your own life!
@davidpumpkinsjr.5108
9 ай бұрын
Ramsey, like all fictional and real sociopaths, does not deserve sympathy for this simple reason: anger is natural but cruely is a choice.
@DamningTooth1
9 ай бұрын
Was hoping to see the following covered one day: - Joe Cooper (Killer Joe) - Nino Brown (New Jack City) - Jake "The Muss" Heke (Once Were Warriors) - The Always Sunny in Philadelphia gang - more James Bond villains
@rowleyryan9025
9 ай бұрын
Always Sunny Gang 😂
@DarrinKemp-lr1cz
9 ай бұрын
Ernst Stavro Blofeld.
@ugoeze7360
9 ай бұрын
I thought Nino Brown was covered way back
@360entertainment2
9 ай бұрын
The Always Sunny gang would be an interesting group to cover, they’re all morally bankrupt in their own ways!
@maelguiraud3568
9 ай бұрын
@@rowleyryan9025 he's not wrong they were sick.
@b_e_thecreative
9 ай бұрын
How the Starks and the North tolerated the Boltons for so long never made sense to me.
@CodeeXD
9 ай бұрын
Because they were almost as powerful as the starks if no as powerful as them. They had a war a long time ago and nearly destroyed each other. Owned a lot of land and the dreadfort as well as a lot of soldiers. Also iirc the annihilation of an entire house is pretty frowned upon
@mappingshaman5280
9 ай бұрын
Because after the starks subjugated the boltons the boltons kept the whole flaying thing on the down low, only really being public with it when they were fighting stark enemies or more specifically in the main series.
@b_e_thecreative
9 ай бұрын
@@CodeeXD I get that but I felt that they had plot armor as a house in the north for the story's sake. If they were this big menace, it would have been the North's best interest to band together and get rid of them. Years ago.
@b_e_thecreative
9 ай бұрын
@@mappingshaman5280 They were killing Starks for years and years but the North always just let them stay until the main storyline. Yes they fought but if u flaying houses all this time and the most hated, I would think that wouldn't be tolerated in that world.
@mappingshaman5280
9 ай бұрын
@b_e_thecreative they stopped killing starks after the greystark rebellion though and just kept on the DL. Besides there are other houses in other regions with similar histories to their overlords. House ulller and House yronwood to House martell, house Royce to House arryn etc.
@RONGEE2099
9 ай бұрын
One of the greatest villains in tv history and one of my favorites. Dude was SADISTIC
@carsoncasmirri3874
9 ай бұрын
There is certainly something to be said about what people do when given power while containing that deadly mixture of ambition, viciousness and competence
@Anonymiad
9 ай бұрын
best villain in the show. the guy just loved being twisted and it was a joy to watch
@TheDivingboy
9 ай бұрын
If i am being honest, he was my favourite character of the entire show besides jon. Despite being bastards, they made it pretty far in the GOT universe while being hilariously fun and really enjoyable to watch.
@Michigander269
9 ай бұрын
I've been wanting this since you did Tywin Lannister! Great video thanks!
@meumnomen
9 ай бұрын
Not a lot of fictional characters are as scary as Ramsay Bolton
@SpicyDillPickleGoldfish
9 ай бұрын
Vile, I wasn't able to suggest it in the discord, but kindly consider analyzing The Commandant from Beasts of no Nation. The lengths he goes to maintain his sense of power and control over others intertwined with his ability to inspire men and even young boys to kill for his cause, as well as perform other unspeakable acts, is quite disturbing. I think he'd make a great candidate. The movie itself is also fantastic in its own right.
@nickklavdianos5136
9 ай бұрын
Definitely agree, it's one of Idris Elba's best roles.
@huwguyver4208
9 ай бұрын
Great suggestion. I had to pause that movie halfway through and take a break because of how heavy that movie is to watch.
@dwigg7700
3 күн бұрын
The actor that played Ramsey was incredible. Dude actually makes your skin crawl with a smile. Truly fantastic portrayal of a sadist.
@thepunisher6674
9 ай бұрын
I think Ramsey Bolton character is summed up by his actions in a dance with dragons being that he has to maneuver his way into being lord of the dread fort because his actions previously turned the people of winterfell and hornwood the places he’s lord of against him
@tomcross3000
3 ай бұрын
There was a moment that stuck with me from the series where Sansa and Ramsay were conversing during a sort of struggle for autonomy.. Sansa gets his attention and he looks in her direction from elsewhere but it's like he was still elsewhere- blank expression, even mean looking.. then his eyes return to the present and he puts a smile on.. at that moment it was like the mask was briefly off, but also like he switched personalities when prompted, and it was such a high calibre bit of detailed character acting that i thought it worth a mention.
@jamescoughlan7175
9 ай бұрын
I'd love to see Little Finger or Book Tyrion. Both can be quite evil but nearly as plainly as Ramsey can be. Great video
@RoCkbunny769
9 ай бұрын
Loved the actor that played him in previous shows, but he really showed his range as Ramsey. Made my blood boil watching him, which is saying something😂
@danielsantiagourtado3430
9 ай бұрын
Its always a great day when you update vile! Please do his father roose next😊😊🎉🎉🎉🎉
@Tommykey07
9 ай бұрын
Ramsay's brutality, in addition to the pleasure it brings him, seems calculated to so terrify his enemies that they will be afraid to oppose him. All stick and no carrot.
@laganas2008
9 ай бұрын
I felt so sad for Ramsay when his father was poisoned by his enemies.
@noegiard494
9 ай бұрын
me too, it's horrible that they would do that, imagine how Ramsay must have felt 😢
@corgeousgeorge
4 ай бұрын
The actor who played him is incredible. Before playing Ramsay Bolton, he played a kind, dim witted and super naive and unlucky neighbor to two old gay dudes on a sitcom in Britain, One of the main characters was Sir Ian McKellan. The role was so different and he behaved so differently that it took me a long time to realize it was the same dude who played RamsaY!
@rodneylove8027
9 ай бұрын
Damn! This one was overdue. I feel like you let off easy. Ramsay from the book and show is one of the most vile and evil characters I can think of (The Harkonens of Dune are runners up only by virtue of a dearth of materials describing their acts. Great video!
@Skyumi-Vk
5 ай бұрын
Listens to the symptoms of ASPD "Ah shit I don't have a disorder, I'm just an asshole!"
@darthrage8673
9 ай бұрын
You covered Twyin Lannister, Joffery Baratheon, and Ramsay Bolton. The only Game of Thrones characters left to cover are Lord Petyr Bealish, Walder Frey, and Cersie Lannister.
@mappingshaman5280
9 ай бұрын
Euron greyjoy (the real euron, not that idiot talking about fingers in bums that D&D invented) too. Also I don't think walder frey has enough to talk about in either book or show to be honest. I'm not even sure he could truly be considered evil, to me he's just a morally corrupt antagonist, no different to for example balon greyjoy or some of the wildlings. When you think about it what does he do that's evil? He kills thousands at a wedding? OK but they are fighting for a king who sent the biggest "fuck you" possible to him, after he spent his entire 90 year old life getting fuck yous from greater lords He's creepy towards women? OK but that describes most westerosi lords. He's allied with the boltons and lannisters? OK but so are the tyrells and to some extent even the martells.
@satinarmor
9 ай бұрын
Do you know how many sinister characters are in GOT? Lmao, and there’s 10x as many in the books
@tylerhill40
9 ай бұрын
He's the definition of evil.
@pyroAdapt
9 ай бұрын
Holy shit i didnt even realize he hadnt covered this character yet! This just made my day. I have something of a morvid curiosity when it comes ro torture because the idea of it terrifies me so much. Because of this ramsay is one of my favorite characters of all time.
@stvinney
9 ай бұрын
I don't go looking for shockingly evil characters but in my experience Id say Ramsey is the most evil Just to witness the torture would have to make you sick and he actually carries it out with such delight
@The_unknown_legend1409
9 ай бұрын
you know a character is horrible when vile eye starts the video by saying that he could not mention some of the character's action in this video
@mikeokol2822
9 ай бұрын
Ah yes Ramsay Bolton the only character more hated than Joffrey himself…he’s quite the Chad
@theblocksays
9 ай бұрын
He's likely what Joffrey would become later in life had he not been poisoned at his age.
@CommanderShepard-wq3wo
9 ай бұрын
Definitely not a chad. A sadistic sh*t stain is what he is
@fullmetalheel
9 ай бұрын
Battle of the Bastards was peak GoT and Ramsay was among the best antagonists in the show. A completely irredeemable villain perfect for his universe
@fullmetalheel
9 ай бұрын
@@Darius-_ well since I said "in the show", CLEARLY I wasn't talking about the books. And what I consider peak doesn't have to align with your (or anybody else's) opinion
@fullmetalheel
9 ай бұрын
@@Darius-_ and I did read the books, jackass
@danoliver7044
9 ай бұрын
@fullmetalheel you can almost smell the disappointment he feels! Totally failed in his attempt at belittling your opinion by being one of those 'ive read the books which are far superior and you most likely haven't because your lesser than me' 😂
@fullmetalheel
9 ай бұрын
@@danoliver7044 look at his most recent comments lol he's jackin his wanker to the source material on a nightly basis 😂
@fullmetalheel
9 ай бұрын
@@Darius-_ the best TV show of all time? I don't think GoT has the right to claim that title given the last couple seasons. The hype, visuals, brutality, high stakes, personal drama (between jon/sansa and Ramsay bolton), and satisfying conclusion to the battle would make the battle of the bastards "peak" for me. I also watched it with a bunch of my friends so that added to the entertainment value. I consider Hardhome peak too but I wouldn't put one over the other
@Luke101
9 ай бұрын
I absolutely DESPISED this twerp. What he did to Theon is just horrific
@djamalbaldjiev7949
9 ай бұрын
We need more GOT characters analysis
@nerdypythonmedia3343
Ай бұрын
Very well said! I've often found myself comparing the Bolton duo and their individual approaches to evil while watching the show. There's a very noticeable distinction between them and you've perfectly explained it. Roose is DEFINITELY the psychopath able to deceive enemies while Ramsay is more of a sociopath. This was highlighted during the events of the Red Wedding as Roose was able to appear as a friend and even openly converse with Cat over dinner.
@feynmanstein
9 ай бұрын
Another great video Mr. Vile.. 12:35 A perfect example of this difference could be Tuco and Lalo Salamanca. One an unhinged sociopath, the other a charismatic psychopath.
@chrisb4131
9 ай бұрын
Ramsay Bolton was one of those cartoonishly villainous characters that had zero redeeming qualities. Not a tear was shed.
@joshuasteel3543
9 ай бұрын
I have been waiting for this for a long time, thank you 😊
@jasongreathouse6661
9 ай бұрын
I’m not a big GOT fan but the fact you make this interesting is a statement of how good your videos are. Again Vile please do one on Nina Meyers from “24” and/or Jenny Schecter from “The L Word.” Two villains who are as cold as they are evil.
@jdottdeestv8149
9 ай бұрын
Absolutely loved this episode. I know I've banged on about it the past but the flow of these videos now are so silky smooth my man. You've come far from when you first started and I love the fact you continue to improve, and make very engaging content. On top of that, I think your steady rise says a lot about this KZitem channel. Grown organically, through sheer determination and dedication.
@T.elegram...TheVileEye
9 ай бұрын
Christmas gift awaiting.🎄✍️
@dinorex3464
4 ай бұрын
Ramsay felt like a man with Jon Snow's body and wit and Joffrey's sadism. One of the best-written characters in the series, in my opinion.
@andrewemerson6077
9 ай бұрын
Loved the vid! Cannot wait for the next episode on Sauron. Could a potential episode on Ramses from The Prince of Egypt be seen on the horizon?
@lancelotdufrane
Ай бұрын
He was so Dark,… I couldn’t believe what I was watching. Completely shocking human being.
@CharlieApples
9 ай бұрын
It occurred to me while watching Game of Thrones that, realistically, Ramsay very likely did “assault” Theon at _least_ once. It’s the most efficient and reliable way to break someone psychologically, and sadists very often learn to conflate sadistic pleasure with sexual pleasure. This is why it’s such a common method of torture in prisons and POW camps. But frankly, GoT was already pushing the envelope in terms of how brutal a show could be before people became so disturbed that they stopped watching it, and they probably thought that Ramsay’s repeated “assaults” on Sansa were already stomach churning enough. And gay “assault” is for whatever reason typically seen as worse than heterosexual “assault”. Ramsay was literally so evil that even GoT had to pump the brakes in its depictions of him.
@T.elegram...TheVileEye
9 ай бұрын
Christmas gift awaiting🎄✍️
@chico9805
9 ай бұрын
Gay "assualt" is seen as, and is worse because it's unnatural. A woman can walk away from being raped and still keep some semblance of dignity, a man can't.
@leonrobinson8180
8 ай бұрын
That reminds me of "buckbreaking", a practice where the sadistic slave masters found the tallest and strongest male slave, then brutally beat and often sodomize him, to psychologically break him as Ramsay did Theon, and to communicate to the slave women and children that the power lay with the slavemaster, not their men.
@stevengarman4848
9 ай бұрын
Actually, if one studies human history; one will learn that most of the really sadistic dictators died as old men in their beds.
@TheDeadmandillon
9 ай бұрын
I don't know if it's because winter is coming, but this gave me a good chill down my spine. Definitely an evil bastard that I wouldn't want to be associated with.
@SerMattzio
7 ай бұрын
I think I actually find Roose scarier, because he's just as capable of such vile, petty and deranged sadistic evil. Yet he's smart enough to appear like a pretty normal man outwardly.
@imjustaturtle641
9 ай бұрын
Wonderful video Vile! If possible it would be so awesome to see you cover Handsome Jack from “Borderlands 2”, Majora from “legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask” and/or Kerrigan from “StarCraft” Thank you for all that you do!
@j.p.8811
7 ай бұрын
Castrating Theon and breaking him to the point that he's no more than a loyal servant was the most brutal shit I've ever seen honestly, especially as a man I can't imagine the emotions you'd feel from being tortured and emasculated in such a way.
@flyingsky1559
6 ай бұрын
Jaime said it best "I'd make them kill me before that happened"
@danielsantiagourtado3430
9 ай бұрын
Been requesting this one for SO LONG! Thanks vile!
@doublebbastard7514
9 ай бұрын
Perhaps now it is my characters turn
@doublebbastard7514
9 ай бұрын
Perhaps now it is my characters turn
@802SlowedSolutions
9 ай бұрын
Finally!! I’ve been waiting on this one for ages! Thank you 🙏
@ZarelidT
9 ай бұрын
My favorite character in the show. Named my cat after him 🤣
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