I just want to say how much I appreciate Harvey's work. Not only Harvey himself, but other people who I read use Harvey as touchstone, even when they disagree with him. Harvey is huge; one of the most cited academics in history, and rightly so.
@avonjohn3393
5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I was born under capitalism, but fortunately, I was given a chance to think about anti-capitalism. Fantastic, David Harvey!
@juliahenriques210
5 жыл бұрын
This Chinese example kinda goes to show how in China capitalism itself is a state policy. Capitalist logic would dictate that the government aimed for the maximum possible economic growth, when in fact their government sees this growth as just another tool in their belt.
@OldEarthWisdom
5 жыл бұрын
We need a way to have good and meaningful lives without consuming everything on the planet.
@argtv100
5 жыл бұрын
then take the simple and self-evident steps to insure that a relatively small band of psychopathic criminal parasites are reigned in, prevented from having freedom of action, movement, and eliminated from society along with their entire gene pool, grinding up their bodies and feeding the pieces to rats. Know that this may well entail the merciless elimination of the entire economic leadership class of various nation states.
@argtv100
5 жыл бұрын
@ What?
@OMGAnotherday
5 жыл бұрын
argtv100 - It’s true, unfortunately for the human race, the survival of the fittest is a reality, the capital system allows for psychopaths to rise. 10,000 years ago psychopaths would still only be 1% of the population, but they would have been contained within their environment. Fast forward to the age of capitalism, they have every tool they need to be at the absolute fulfilment of their DNA ! The rest of us don’t stand a chance! 😩
@dinnerwithfranklin2451
5 жыл бұрын
I hadn't thought of that. Most of the young I work with have no idea what a factory is except that it is a thing that used to be important. Thank you Dr Harvey
@waynemcmillan5970
5 жыл бұрын
David never ceases to amaze me, his penetrating insights are extraordinary. David H IMHO is the modern day equivalent of Marx, he has no epual.
@Camcolito
5 жыл бұрын
And the friendly relaxed way he engages is great. A true gentleman.
@Camcolito
5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting lecture. Rarely come away feeling I've definitely learned something new as was the case here.
@randomserb761
5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful discussion. Thank you.
@sprobablycancr4457
5 жыл бұрын
Factories still exist here. I've worked in 2 during the past 20 years. First implicit rule of factories is: Don't talk about unions. (you may get promoted to a new position which unfortunately becomes redundant)
@lutherdean6922
5 жыл бұрын
thanks for covering this
@user-nv5ix3ib5b
5 жыл бұрын
Emmm things we care in China ·legitimacy ·how to make socialism actually work ·inequality ·America(eg arms race) ·jobs taking away by high techs ·education ·social safe net ·pollution blabla
@OMGAnotherday
5 жыл бұрын
九初 - 👍🏼✌️✊🏼
@Camcolito
5 жыл бұрын
China doesn't have a social safety net. It's not socialist. Inequality is not a problem as long as elites don't rock the government boat. Anyone with money sends their kids abroad for education. You can't breathe in major cities.
@CandidDate
5 жыл бұрын
The Earth doesn't care what kind of math we use.
@mohinderkumar7298
4 жыл бұрын
It is social division of labor, not division of labor that Marx talked about. What u saw is what Marx wrote. Different branches u saw as dexetealized are centralised where whole final product is assembled n produced. Marx was right. It still happens n works in 2020.
@user-qh8bk4gv8o
5 жыл бұрын
to focus on mass, the theory proposed have to match reality in exact same number, ex: 5 workers together produce 5 bread in 2 hour, 4 worker produce 1 bread in 2 hours => need at least 5 workers to have the team function properly. to focus on growth rate, all they have to do is comparing different growth rates and trying "to draw" conclusions from that, ex: same example=> as worker decease, the efficiency decreases The level of understanding in the 1st case is far demanding than the 2nd one. To focus on mass, policy makers have to understand exactly what they are trying to do, no BS. This will make things harder for them, especially when they are doing one thing but aiming for something else.
@allonesame6467
5 жыл бұрын
Rates: How Class Retains Status.
@joziepozie5178
5 жыл бұрын
still waiting for the notes to be published tbh, we could be missing some pretty unique stuff
@svetlicam
5 жыл бұрын
I can't see how capital could decentralised itself. This decentralisation of production is consequence of capital surplus which is acomulated by this industrial factories. Because their production makes prices go down, so others have space for as we see in modern times for entrepreneurs to occur, which are of course only very narrow specialised, because only there thay have space. Its about space that capital acomulation leaves for others because capital conquer space little by little. We can't see the mass because of market, because market make instability how we see mass, so mass becomes elusive. But mass is real everyone knows that and simply doesn't bother with it, like with planet it self everyone knows is there but take it for granted. We can't simply destroy the market it's actually impossible like as we can't stop planet to spin. So how can we see the real mass, this was our biggest problem from the beginning of civilisation, we use to sort it out with the wars, but mass was still out of our reach. I think we can't see the mass no matter how much we try. What should we do then. When scientists can't see something, they focus attention on thing that could be affected by that invisible thing and which is visible, so they can sort out mechanism how this invisible thing works. What is most important thing that is affected by this mass? Of course we are, humans. So we should focus on humans as economy already does, on irrational behaviour of humans as well as rational. What is mehanizam of changes of irrational and rational behaviour of humans, very complex task. Its multidisciplinary task because of complexity, not just economy. Its biggest task that humanity ever took, something like neo humanism, but this time before dark age if its possible.
@Nine-Signs
5 жыл бұрын
I wish I could be a factory worker, working producing things in a democratic organisation with secure employment. Instead I push paper to service the production of companies who produce abroad but sell their production here in a job that could be ended on a whim simply due to a manager having a bad day. All for wages that have barely risen above inflation since 1978.
@Camcolito
5 жыл бұрын
A factory is a democratic organization? Since when?
@d.russellmoros7841
5 жыл бұрын
By "teleological" what do you mean? As far as I understand, Teleology or teleological concepts involve a goal or an end. Marx wrote about a "process of natural history". By "natural history" I understand the history of nature. Marx didn't see communism as an end in itself but an end to class divided society. The end of the infancy of human relations. Class struggle as an aspect of this process of nature. "Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence." marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/ch01a.htm "I paint the capitalist and the landlord in no sense couleur de rose [i.e., seen through rose-tinted glasses]. But here individuals are dealt with only in so far as they are the personifications of economic categories, embodiments of particular class-relations and class-interests. My standpoint, from which the evolution of the economic formation of society is viewed as a process of natural history, can less than any other make the individual responsible for relations whose creature he socially remains, however much he may subjectively raise himself above them." Karl Marx - Capital Volume One 1867 - Preface to the First German Edition 4:01..."there is an element in Marx's thinking which is teleological that is that it seems to be postulated on the idea that there is a trajectory and that trajectory is unfolding inexorably and we're moving towards some point"...
@Camcolito
5 жыл бұрын
Not sure what the issue is.
@d.russellmoros7841
5 жыл бұрын
@@Camcolito The issue is the question: By "teleological" what do you mean?
@tanujSE
4 жыл бұрын
That's cool machine making machine and they have movie a machine killing it It's complicated
@raymarti3
5 жыл бұрын
You can help Bernie's campaign at berniesanders.com
@PoliticalEconomy101
5 жыл бұрын
Why? Socialists dont want to save capitalism and inequality we want to get rid of it. I think you have wandered into the wrong place
@raymarti3
5 жыл бұрын
@@PoliticalEconomy101 ,so you have a better plan on how to move towards progress ?
@argtv100
5 жыл бұрын
why would anyone want to assist that fraud?
@user-nv5ix3ib5b
5 жыл бұрын
Mark~
@richardhelfman903
5 жыл бұрын
Noticed a problem in simple arithmetic - 3000 pounds over 6 years, i.e. 500 pounds a year, equals 10 pounds a week, not 1 pound a week. Still insignificant compared to what the big guys got, but a new shirt or a dinner out now and then. But what I feel is a very real problem with the left today is their acceptance of the "climate change" narrative. (The fact that this "problem" used to be called "global warming" should by itself note that the evidence for all the warming alarmism simply wasn't there, hence the media adopted more neutral wording.) To me the left should afford much more focus on the fact that 2 billion of our planet's inhabitants still do not have electricity. We in the advanced sector initially got ours with coal - in addition to hydroelectric and oil and more recently nuclear. In other words, whatever works. So how can we not allow the Third World to get their electricity with whatever works - including coal and oil. AOC's Green New Deal will prevent these folks from getting what they truly need - NOW. The same folks who are behind what I consider Climate Change Nonsense used to preach all kinds of Malthusian evils many many moons ago, and this is but another one.
@Leetah36
5 жыл бұрын
Unless you've done an exhaustive media content analysis spanning a few decades, you can't possibly have evidence to support the claim that one phrase was "swapped" for another to gin up support for a false, alarmist narrative. Also, if it's a false narrative, why did Shell's own scientists (in addition to the thousands of other scientists worldwide) say climate change is happening? You can find their own documentaries about climate change online, even here on KZitem. Maybe you should step away from the politicians, stop painting groups of people with a really broad brush, and start reading actual scientific reports - and NOT just the ones that confirm your particular belief system.
@matthewstone1660
5 жыл бұрын
Idk it rings a bell with me. It was called global warming and they do seem to have dropped that now, I haven't heard it used in the media for a good while ( years)
@matthewstone1660
5 жыл бұрын
They do believe climate changes as do all scientists, the reason however isn't so clear cut. Man-made, solar cycles etc. We are supposed to be overdue an ice age according to geological records. When there's no concensus on the why or how who do u listen to? Especially when there are so many vested interests.
@jagzcat866
5 жыл бұрын
@@matthewstone1660 There is a consensus - fossil fuel companies have lobbied governments to perpetuate the myth that there is any doubt. Climate change was "rebranded," because global warming made people confused about cold weather events (which can be caused by warming). The scientists who talk about climate change only know we are in a pickle right now, because they have intensively studied Earth's past climates and natural cycles and rhythms. If you have a spare hour, try checking out this video. It goes into these things a bit: kzitem.info/news/bejne/s4yk2ayLrWN2e44
@Leetah36
5 жыл бұрын
@@matthewstone1660 It sounds like you're conflating climate with weather. The lack of consensus argument is a product of people who are being paid to sow doubt. The same folks who defended the tobacco companies were literally hired to produce "research" that casts doubt on human-caused climate change. There are very real climate change scenarios happening now, in real time: land in Louisiana, Bangladesh and other areas is being swamped by rising sea levels. And, as I said before, oil companies were making plans even 40 years ago with climate change in mind - specifically, in how they design their offshore rigs to manage rising sea levels. Even the Pentagon considers it a threat to national security. Ice at the poles is visibly melting, and so is permafrost. These are all observable phenomena. I'm really not sure what else needs to be said, really. Arguing that it's not human caused seems a little odd, given that oil companies went to great lengths to lobby against regs - AFTER their own scientists told them that it was. But don't take my word for it; look up for yourself.
@habibvakilitahami6231
5 жыл бұрын
He is still confused He talked about rate of growth as rate of growth of number of cars but the rate of growth is about growth of value not physical products You can have twice as much of the cars but because every car is cheaper you can have no growth in value so no profit
@gailg1458
5 жыл бұрын
I'm very confused here. Marx is anti-capitalist, yet this guy sees Marx as being capitalist - the antithesis of Marxism. Engels is not Marx. The title of this video is VERY misleading and deceptive, just as this man is.
@frankscott1708
5 жыл бұрын
Go and read Marx. Nothing Harvey has said is untrue.
@gailg1458
5 жыл бұрын
@@frankscott1708 - Have read Marx. That's why I'm confused.
@OPRAHRULZ
5 жыл бұрын
@@gailg1458 Then you would know that he assesses the ways in which capitalism is an improvement on feudalism.
@gailg1458
5 жыл бұрын
@@OPRAHRULZ You must be confusing Engels with Marx
@gailg1458
5 жыл бұрын
"The Manifesto does full justice to the revolutionary part played by capitalism in the past. The first capitalist nation was Italy. The close of the feudal Middle Ages, and the opening of the modern capitalist era are marked by a colossal figured: an Italian, Dante, both the last poet of the Middle Ages and the first poet of modern times. Today, as in 1300, a new historical era is approaching. Will Italy give us the new Dante, who will mark the hour of birth of this new, proletarian era?" Frederick Engels London, February 1, 1893 -- 20 years AFTER the death of Marx. Marx was an anti-capitalist. Here, Engels saw capitalism as a continuation of the feudal proletarian world view.
@dickhamilton3517
5 жыл бұрын
"3000 pounds over six years is less than a pound a week"... really? Harvey's not listening to himself, bowling on...and he makes a few silly slips like this. the anecdote about QE depends only on the distinction between a gain expressed as an amount, and one expressed as a percentage or fraction. It's just a thing you have to notice, when it's done, because it can be very significant, so you have to watch for it (it's easy to miss) but other than that, it's a pretty trivial point. Calling it 'the mass' rather than the 'absolute amount' say, doesn't exactly help - now you need to define what you mean by 'mass'.
@Camcolito
5 жыл бұрын
Good spot on the rather large technical slip. It doesn't affect his main point though it seems to me.
@dickhamilton3517
5 жыл бұрын
no, it doesn't affect his argument. It affects my confidence in his care over his argument.
@Camcolito
5 жыл бұрын
@@dickhamilton3517 Anyone can make a slip on figures. If you write someone's thought off on that basis, I can't think of anyone who you'd have confidence in.
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