The sound of the motor is pure perfection, when it was designed and built there was no thinking that when used within it’s limitations it would ever fail. Refrigerator and freezer motors in the late forties ran without failure; the only reason our mother got rid our 45 yr old GE was for more space, and an ice maker. We should not expect or accept anything less than that given todays engineering. Thanks for the video.
@lv_woodturner3899
2 жыл бұрын
Very nice job on the motor. Sounds so quiet and smooth. A huge size compared to a modern 1/6HP motor. They built the motors like tanks back in that day. Dave.
@lotsatrains
2 жыл бұрын
Wow that was so amazing you literally had me glued to my screen that’s the best and most informative motor restoration I’ve ever seen and it’s so satisfying to see it run and spin down with that centrifugal clutch disengaging 👍
@lordvengerx
2 жыл бұрын
That motor cleaned up super nice. The new paint really did it justice. Have a great weekend everyone be safe out there 👍🐱
@jpsimon206
2 жыл бұрын
Don't let the fractional horsepower rating fool you, especially when they are continuous duty, these are some seriously tough motors. Somewhere along the line, the definition of horsepower changed drastically. I had a tractor from the 1930s just under 75 horsepower, and I'm pretty confident it could pull any house off the foundation. Nowadays I have a hatchback that supposedly has 250 horsepower, but it sure does not feel like three of those tractors
@BrianRust89
2 жыл бұрын
I love this series. I have also recently gotten into motors. I really hope you touch on the amps vs. HP vs RPM. Short story. My lathe motor went out (delta 1640 lathe) it had a unoriginal 1/3 horse motor. I found a nice old 1/4 horse motor. So I thought I’d use it until I found a more power one. That 1/4 horse has twice the torque as the “bigger” 1/3 horse motor. I don’t know much about all this stuff so I just attribute it to magic haha. If you could do a slight deep dive into that it would be great!! Thanks for all the knowledge!!!
@ronniepirtlejr2606
10 ай бұрын
After disassembling these electric motors, when cleaning the oil and grime off. If you are really want to take it to the extreme. I use a very soft bristle paint brush/ toothbrush & apply goop hand cleaner. When totally covered with goop then place entire contents in plastic bag so the goop hand cleaner can soften up the grime. After a few hours, I work the goop into everything real good again, even the windings.( it will not hurt anything) Rinse Thoroughly with warm water. It will not hurt The Wire. Thoroughly dry. Paint if you're going to. Varnish if you're going to . Lightly protect clean metal with a very light coat of oil. Reassemble!
@donlum9128
2 жыл бұрын
I have a couple electric motors for vintage Matage washing machines.
@saulquezada7898
2 жыл бұрын
Hey señor Jan, ( Since you are part polak) I really enjoyed how you renew that one hundred plus year old ge electric motor. Keep up the great work you do señor. Tnanks a lot and have a great life. Saludos desde México.
@ScoutCrafter
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Saul!!
@toolrestoration
2 жыл бұрын
Just in from work , wife said perfect dinners ready , I said whoah hold dinner , scoutcrafter first ......
@rawbacon
2 жыл бұрын
I restored a 1/4 horse version about a year ago and repainted it, I was disappointed that you weren't going to repaint it because I knew how incredible it would look..............You came thru in the end.
@OldSneelock
2 жыл бұрын
Nice work John. The little guys can be harder than rebuilding the 200 hp bruisers. Tiny little parts. I have the same problem with cords. Nicks and cracks are good at hiding. The rubber coatings dry out and crack. Back when I was a young and inpressionable 40 year old I loaned out extension cords. They would come back automatically 6 feet shorter. Short cord on the tool and a sacrificial spliced back on 6 foot section of extension cord. PS make the tools cord short enough it won't reach the pulley, blade, chain,. Worst offender? Hedge trimmers
@Traderjoe
2 жыл бұрын
My pops used to have a few before he moved. From various appliances and machines he salvaged them from over the years. Before he moved he had a garage sale and before I could get there, some guys showed up and cleaned all his stuff out that he had like that and I was so pissed. They got it for a song too. Damnit.
@tonylenge424
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Learning so much in the past few months on motors. Been watching Benco Vintage Machine works which is absolutely fantastic. Thanks for the recommendation and video.
@Sawtooth70
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve restored many old shop tools, but I’ve always been too intimidated to touch the motors. You demystified the process. Thanks again for another great video. Hope you have a great weekend in the shop or upstate.
@5000go2
2 жыл бұрын
I find it to be fun to update older electric motors (and tools) with a ground wire power cord. Something nice about retrofitting with a modern feature
@williamkroth9429
2 жыл бұрын
Always a relaxing and enjoyable as well as educational video.......thanks!
@stanellis7805
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Scout! Phenomenal job. I learn something new from you every episode! Looking forward to more motors. Thanks sir. 🇺🇸
@not2fast4u2c
2 жыл бұрын
First one I have seen built like that with brushes The old motors have a sound that is pleasant to hear The hum is a perfect pitch
@WeekendShedHead
2 жыл бұрын
Hello Scout, Superb job👏, a beautiful motor, the finish is outstanding, i can see the labour of love you’ve put into it.. . And I really learnt a lot, so now I’ll be sure to look out for similar on my travels 😁👍 Cheers Rob
@bigpete4227
2 жыл бұрын
I wish you were my teacher when I was in school, I might have actually attended every now and again.
@captwalker2732
2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful job on that motor! You know I get why they make so many sealed motors today because people aren't good about doing PM on them. But man these old ones with oil ports and open vents if you show them some love will last hundreds of years. Just like an old steam engine.
@kylekyleson373
2 жыл бұрын
Again, much was learned today. Felt like I was back in Vocational High School science class. Thanks John.
@norherman
2 жыл бұрын
You are the man. love your high standards.
@nicknicoletti9778
2 жыл бұрын
How fun is that? Working on old vintage motors. That thing is quiet and smooth. What year is that from? What a beauty!! You say the video was a bit long… I found it interesting and it went by quick.
@bobjoncas2814
2 жыл бұрын
...WHAT ? no plastic housing ? good one, have a great weekend..
@357magdad
2 жыл бұрын
The design of that motor is really interesting!
@jpsimon206
2 жыл бұрын
I just thought it might be worth mentioning that in the turn the century every machine shop I had a roll of asbestos on hand, it was a very widely used material. I unfortunately have seven of these rolls. I used to redo a lot of machine tools from the turn of the century and it is very common for the wicks in these to be replaced with a wad of asbestos in a shotgun casing. I guess it must have been a common DIY of the day. Also the varnish used on windings in Old motors is sometimes one of several carcinogenic substances. I think your advice about using a vacuum is excellent but I don't see much harm in being in a well ventilated space and possibly wearing a dust mask as well. Only one time have I gotten a big whiff of asbestos when first discovering the rolls, it felt immediately apparent to me that it was dangerous stuff
@jackthompson2132
2 жыл бұрын
Oh , what a awesome video John 😃. I’ve been waiting for this day! Wonderful demonstration ! Thank You so much for sharing
@Mr_Flybacker
4 ай бұрын
This is the first time I've seen such a motor. So that the stator is short-circuited, and the rotor has windings and slip rings. Reminiscent of wound rotor motors from cranes. But single-phase, and very small.
@melotone3305
2 ай бұрын
I'm going to take possession of one of these motors (at 1/20th hp) in about a week. I'm guessing I could attempt to clean the old wicks by soaking them in mineral spirits (here in California), But what if they have to be replaced - does anyone still make them? Thx very much for the video. Much appreciated!
@anubytreewatcher7792
Ай бұрын
Hello! Nice video, thank you! I have a quesiton. 5:01 in video. Is this moving and knocking are big problem? I have a similar engine and I'm worried about that. Does this need to be fixed?
@keithfaulkner1288
6 ай бұрын
I really like your channel. Do you have a video that simply shows how to wire the three wires into a switch or plug. I have a black wire that's tagged AC only a red wire tagged 110 AC & cond. And a green wire tagged Cond only. I'm not looking for a private lesson. I'm sure you're to busy. I'm just looking if you have a video that can help. Thank You
@krishoogstraat6866
2 жыл бұрын
John I can’t express how much I have been learning watching your videos! Another fantastic project!
@CM90066
Ай бұрын
Great video. I have a GE motor from 1933 I was trying to figure out how to do maintenance on, and this was very informative. Also, great job on the commentary and the editing, also the fact that the music was not louder than your voice, is the first time I've seen a KZitem repair video with proper sound.
@jackpijjin4088
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I recently acquired a drill press with a similar motor to this (along with a lot of a now-passed tinkerer's collection). I've had a bunch of antique tools in my 27 years but this one is an absolute treat- looks to be almost a century old, which lines up with some of the antique musical instruments I picked up. Looking forward to refreshing and re-cording the thing and giving it some regular use in my shop!
@giovannirevilla2638
10 ай бұрын
I bought 6 motors for $35 on craigslist and I think four of them are antiques. I love restoring it but I’m very new on working with motors. My concern is wiring the correct way. “No plug”
@wayneo7307
2 жыл бұрын
Nice job Scout ! Thanks for the Tips Along the Way . It looks Great.
@setdown2
2 жыл бұрын
Just what I needed to see as the belt driven grinder wheel that was given to me recently has an old G E motor it runs but needs a good cleaning…it’s belted down to about 100 rpm …the housing is cast not tin around the 12 inch wheel …thanks for being a good neighbor-teacher crafterman…🤙
@RRINTHESHOP
2 жыл бұрын
Real nice job on the motor refurb. Don’t see to many of those motors anymore.
@negotiableaffections
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds/looks good as new and it reminds me of the old 'cage' type of elevator for some reason. BTW I have a question, I've just stripped down and serviced my hedge trimmers and cleaned all the grease/bits of conifer out of the mechanism. now what sort of grease should I put in? Will a general purpose, lithium type be good enough? Its a cam mechanism that makes the blades slide against each other. Cheers John.
@darylcrabb8228
9 ай бұрын
Those drive rivets are used on the tags of all kinds of old Denison units. I use an old pair of endcutters to pull them out, after tapping them on each side just like you did. The endcutters typically get under them enough so that I don’t have to pull and twist the rivets out, but just squeeze and twist. However, I’m usually not concerned with saving the tag since we replace them every time.
@joshualeih6610
Жыл бұрын
Hello ScoutCrafter, I recently picked up a very similar motor in a bundle of old shop equipment I purchased and I’d like to restore it. I’ve got some questions and you’re about the only information I can find on these things. Is there a good source for information that you know of? Or maybe some way I can contact you for some help?
@melotone3305
2 ай бұрын
I have a 1/20hp version of this motor. I have not taken it apart, but the centrifugal springs cannot be heard or felt. How can I clean that spring unit without total disassembly? Oh, and can I change the direction of shaft rotation?
@ForestWoodworks
Жыл бұрын
Wow 😘!!! Third time watching this video and it never gets old. What a beautiful motor. I really wish I could find one for a decent price to save for a resto. Thanks again 💯
@kevinlott9626
2 жыл бұрын
That project turned out nice..! 🇺🇲🇺🇲
@husafel
7 ай бұрын
Great job! Is the upper brush at the top the positive wire? I saw a white wire connected and the black wire to the lower brush? Just want to make sure. ( first time re-wiring ). I have the same 1/4hp motor.
@bigvicsworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mr. John! What a great job. It sounds awesome and I couldn't believe how dirty that thing was... wow! Really enjoyed seeing how it was done! Thanks!
@tomtovar8202
8 ай бұрын
Any recommendations for cleaning the commutator plate? And replacement brushes? I have the same motor.
@darylcrabb8228
9 ай бұрын
I have a craftsman split phase motor that looks similar to this. I’ve never seen anyone do it, but could I use CRC electronics cleaner on the windings? Or would that degrade the shellac coating?
@RobertBosworth
2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. That motor sounded so sweet starting up and running. Excellent work!
@therealdylanlenton
Жыл бұрын
I just got a GE 1/6 hp floor fan and after clean-up I couldn't get it running again as it was before I cleaned, seeing clearly now about getting the bushings right. Going to get back to it!
@shipratiwari1132
Жыл бұрын
Are there doubly fed wound rotor motors? Or slip ring motors available to purchase? Do you have any idea?
@santanusinha7086
2 жыл бұрын
The temp rise tells us the increase in temp from ambient temp while running. For example ambient is 30 degrees celcius, then motor achieves a temp of 70 before attaining equilibrium. Allowed temp rise depends on ambient & class of insulation. This is a class B motor.
@michaelbradley8508
2 жыл бұрын
Great educational video - Thank You. Michael from Canada
@JamesP_TheShedShop
2 жыл бұрын
Those are smooth motors. I remember how heavy they were as a kid. My brother and I would drag one hooked up to an air pump to air up bicycle tires... I still have the motor and air compressor.😁
@choppermike3329
2 жыл бұрын
The sound of the motor starting is like music! Nice job John!
@girliedog
Жыл бұрын
I have the same exact motor I am fixing up. Mine has more cacked grease, any pointers on a good product to resolve old dried grease would be appreciated. Thank you for the excellent tutorial.
@guataco
2 жыл бұрын
Nice result. Always learning with you. Thanks.
@joeheilm
2 жыл бұрын
You really do a great job with these motor videos....outstanding video. Cheers
@ianstools4929
2 жыл бұрын
Really looking forward to this motor series. This has been super interesting and I’m not much of a motor guy but I think I might have to get one for myself ! Thanks for another great video!
@garyingersoll2460
2 жыл бұрын
I have an old Delco 1/4 electric motor that's beautiful but the plug in cord is totally falling apart. Could I hire you to install a new cord a general clean up on this motor?
@Dancing_Alone_wRentals
2 жыл бұрын
Guilty as charged when it comes to the cords. I'm not sure what to do with all the motors I've collected. Even made a video about the conundrum . tHanks for the great video!
@tomdale1313
2 жыл бұрын
Good Stuff,tanks for sharing...tomy doyle
@mrbenmall
2 жыл бұрын
That was very enjoyable and informative. Thanks!
@GuntersGarage
2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful motor! Sounds great, smooth and quiet. I really like the brass tag and really miss an ID tag like that on things. Now mfgs use stickers and they suck.
@highdownmartin
2 жыл бұрын
Stickers peel ,get scraped and scratched ,fade to nothing Brass plates remain legible for ever pretty much.
@GuntersGarage
2 жыл бұрын
@@highdownmartin exactly, for years Caterpillar used an aluminum tag with part number on hydraulic lines. When you blew one you take the tag in and thats all they needed to get you a new line. Now they use a sticker with a bar code on the line. They dont last at all with the heat and expansion.
@bryancunningham1095
Ай бұрын
Great video, learned a lot, you mentioned earlier that the end play was about right when you where pulling and pushing the motor shaft, what is the right amount of end play ?
@scroungasworkshop4663
2 жыл бұрын
Great video Scout, love those old motors and I love the sound yours makes when you switch it on. It sounds like a much bigger unit. Just a word of caution for the inexperienced with those drive rivets, don’t just try to take the heads off them and then drill out the little shaft as a lot of them are made from hardened metal and you can’t drill them out even with 5% cobalt drills. Ask me how I know🤬, I’ve been caught several times. If you really want a lesson on electrical wiring watch some videos like Pakistani Trucks as those guys just use 4 or five individual wires running from the wall plug to their machines and four or five wires means they’re three phase/ 440 volt. 😂😂😂. Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺
@ScoutCrafter
2 жыл бұрын
Stuart! You are so right, those drive rivets look easy to tackle at first but I have mangled a few ID plates in my time trying to get them out! The key is small taps and be patient! I really prefer screws! LOL
@scroungasworkshop4663
2 жыл бұрын
@@ScoutCrafter 👍👍👍
@intruder8245
Жыл бұрын
Have one just like. The housing for the felt wick has a small hole on the top of the unit and a large opening on the bottom. Any ideas how to remove the felt wick?
@Garth2011
6 ай бұрын
Sounds like a motor should sound like...smooth, quiet and consistent.
@BencoVintageMachineWorks
2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. Those GE type SA motors are little workhorses. It's really gratifying watching these old electric motors run. It reminds me of watching an electric train set in some ways or an aquarium. It's just relaxing. Have a great weekend John.
@ScoutCrafter
2 жыл бұрын
Terry after watching ALL of your videos I definitely learned a ton of things I never knew before! You’ve created a monster! 😂👍
@toolscarriagesmodellbauand7246
2 жыл бұрын
The motor sounds so smooth. I like those motors. Thanks for explaining d the disassembly
@Knifeaddictdillon
2 жыл бұрын
You look half asleep at the end of the video 😂 great dedication to keep up with your schedule 👍
@rawbacon
2 жыл бұрын
I had to come back, I was reminded about the cord that was on one of mine like this when I got it. They had it wired with one of those super thin white 2-prong cords that probably came off a clock/radio from the 60s or 70s.....They don't use those on anything today, even the smallest AC electrical items use heavier cords today.
@ScoutCrafter
2 жыл бұрын
YES! LOL SO many of these motors come with lamp cord or some sketchy arrangement.... It's funny to me!
@troon5488
2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful design. Attention was paid to aesthetics, even on such a simple device. Perhaps you could clear something up for me regarding the power: 110V x 4.2A=462W, which is approximately equal to 0.6hp, so why the designation as 1/6hp (745W/6=124W)? Having a metric background, I’m not that familiar with the hp rating, and have noticed this mathematical discrepancy before.
@ScoutCrafter
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent question! I wish I had an answer for it but many vintage motors had what appeared to be discrepancies on their ratings but were actually correct on the way they were measured at the time. (Horse Power being one). I will try to find an answer to your awesome query! Thanks! 😃👍
@joelimeco
2 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Very interesting how the brushes ran on that plate.
@upsidedowndog1256
2 жыл бұрын
I am interested in your 50s Craftsman bench grinder. I am trying to restore a 3/4 hp version. I use my 1930s version 1/2 hp every day since I restored it. Both came from scrap metal place. Thrown out stuff is cool but sometimes not easy. Start capaciters are not to hard to figure but can be difficult to find.
@ScoutCrafter
2 жыл бұрын
Yes- Those Square box capacitors are always hard to locate! 😃👍
@melotone3305
2 ай бұрын
I forgot to ask, how do you determine the date of these old GE motors? thx
@lotharfunke8749
2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos and am new. Do you have a video on drill bits, very confusing metric,1 thru 60, 1/64 thru ??
@ScoutCrafter
2 жыл бұрын
Hello! Yes I do! If you type "Scoutcrafter drill" in the youtube search box lots of videos pop up! I am doing a video today on Hole Saws! Thanks!
@danohstoolbox
2 жыл бұрын
I love Friday ❤
@adude7050
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent motor video. i have never seen a 1/6 before.
@williammcguire3rd
2 жыл бұрын
Turned out nice. What can you use these motors for after they are cleaned up?
@bwayne40004
2 жыл бұрын
I see you used your new Craftsman set. I picked mine up Thursday and I had use for the 9/16s about an hour later. Nice set. Nice motor video today.
@ScoutCrafter
2 жыл бұрын
Bruce- I love that little set! Can't believe we got it so cheap!
@13thworker45
2 жыл бұрын
Nice job, my question did the rotation change when you turned the brushes around? I have several old motors waiting for a new challenge. I have a few I don’t want to move because of their size. I’m old but they are real old and heavy. Thank you
@ScoutCrafter
2 жыл бұрын
Only in direct current... With AC this motor has a non polarized plug that can be plugged in right side up or down! =D
@melkc345
2 жыл бұрын
Hey John. Great video on the motor. Have you seen Jeremy Fielding's channel? He goes into great detail about different electric motors among other interests. I love his teaching style. Reminds me of you. Have a wonderful weekend! Jim
@ScoutCrafter
2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I remember seeing him years back! He is a youtube icon! Great info and channel!
@BigEightiesNewWave
6 ай бұрын
I wanted to see the centrifugal switch.
@larryborkstrom3580
2 жыл бұрын
They don't make them like that anymore good score
@essentialhandyman
2 жыл бұрын
It’s a joy to just soak up some of the knowledge you have John. Btw, what happened to the belt loop attachment?
@ScoutCrafter
2 жыл бұрын
That would be a heat duty belt! =D
@mikebashford8198
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder why, on what is obviously an American motor, the temperature rise is in Centigrade?
@ScoutCrafter
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike- Excellent question! I have had the same exact thought! I will try to find out... Thanks!
@jpsimon206
2 жыл бұрын
I know you were shooting for originality, but as long as you had to Japan or paint it, I think replacing the acorn nuts with brass or bronze would be a very sharp look. I know you hate nickel coating but I'm sure you could poke around on eBay and find some nickel over brass acorn nuts and I think that would be really sharp with the original tag
@ScoutCrafter
2 жыл бұрын
This was a test run, I have a few of these and want to see how I can personalize some of them! 😃👍
@ericmcconnell3238
2 жыл бұрын
I have several old motors that need cleaning up, the biggest is on a Logan lathe I am bringing back to life. Technically it will run, but the dirt and grime that has built up over years of use from the previous owner makes me a little nutty. I have been looking forward to this series ever since you mentioned it. Already learned a lot in the short 20 minutes. Feel free to go long on these, I was hanging on to your every word! Even if you went an hour on something this intricate - I would have been glued to the screen for every minute of it. Thank you, thank you, thank you for doing these!
@ericmcconnell3238
2 жыл бұрын
BTW, thanks for the link in the description. He did an amazing job on that monster motor!
@ScoutCrafter
2 жыл бұрын
@@ericmcconnell3238 Hi Eric! Terry has some amazing motors! He really knows his stuff and I have seen all his videos! Thanks!!!!!!!
@colin_5839
2 жыл бұрын
Very Nice Job! Came out great!
@wrod7510
2 жыл бұрын
John....smooth as silk!!!!!!! Wow
@michaelcampagna93
2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful job SC!
@jeffreyyeater1780
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds beautiful!!
@waltsmith1305
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds stonger than 1/6 amp rating seems high for 1\6 also
@ScoutCrafter
2 жыл бұрын
Walt- I agree, I believe these old HP ratings were more accurate and later on more exaggerated! 😃👍
@danceswithaardvarks3284
2 жыл бұрын
Very useful thanks That's an unusual configuration for sure. I was just taking a coffee break from troubleshooting a 90W Parvalux motor, which is arcing around the brushes, when this video popped up, so I'm hoping that this is a good omen. Looking forward to seeing more motor restorations.
@jpsimon206
2 жыл бұрын
You have not delved deeply enough into this new focused hobby if you have not invested in a balancing stand yet, haha
@ScoutCrafter
2 жыл бұрын
I need that, a Meger counter and other things to really do it right!
@lewiemcneely9143
2 жыл бұрын
SWEET! I have a couple of old brushed motors, one on a wire wheel and another that'll be my polisher if I ever get the stand and base done. They run sweet and there's nothing like the sound of them. HAPPY weekend and Be BLESSED!
@lotsabirds
2 жыл бұрын
Used to spray windings with the red can brake cleaner....outside....let it all drip dry. Once or twice worked....it didn't mess with the laquer.lacquer. that paint job looks great! And...you were right to turn the brush box.
@ScoutCrafter
2 жыл бұрын
The red can was the good stuff! (Just not for us) LOL
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