Jayce basically kicking out Heimerdinger out of the council, while cruel for Heimerdinger, was for Viktor. Before he initiates the vote the last scene we saw jayce in was with Viktor while he was dying and he told him that he had to "get ready". After that he basically kicked out Heimerdinger because he (Heimer) wants to delay the hextech research that could safe Viktors life. At least thats how i interpreted it. He could have different motives as well but i think Viktor was the primary reason.
@gabrielribeiro448
2 жыл бұрын
And it was, Jayce made it clear for Viktor that he wanted to work with him to save his life (after all the scenes with Medarda), and considering that Heimer said he'd destroy their research anyway, he made this decision so they could clear their way to help him, at least it is what's shown in this act, maybe they'll go deeper in the next one
@supremeio5930
2 жыл бұрын
This is made clear by Jayce saying to Heimerdinger, paraphrasing, that humans don't live as long, and can't wait.
@Lamren
2 жыл бұрын
That's why I enjoy this show, I felt like Paisly for the most about Jayce, but everytime I think he'll behave the way he's expected to, he doesn't exactly ; like he listened to heimer about not showing off their prototypes, and now he went against heimer because he decided to go all in with viktor. Even the way he's covering up for Caitlyn is nice. He's still a douchebag deep down I'm sure, but instead of being a complete one there's nuance to his character and that really took me by surprise for an animated show !
@2impgaming
2 жыл бұрын
he actually said something like "we humans don't have the luxury of time" compared to Heimerdinger.
@gizel4376
2 жыл бұрын
to be fair, Everyone wanted to kick out heimerdinger, but nobody's had the guts to do so, Jayce didn't wanted to do it, he had to do it, for Viktor and for everyone that were ignored by the old council
@Jay-kx4jf
2 жыл бұрын
jayce was 24 in act 1. cait was like 15ish in act 1. idk why ppl are shipping them. they come off as sibling-y to me
@Ghilannugs
2 жыл бұрын
I think it's just because media has trained us to see any women and man interacting as a potential romance. Havent seen that many people shipping it, mostly just people expecting it to happen. Totally sibling vibes ye
@JickAudio
2 жыл бұрын
Yes for sure sibling vibes, the age thing isn’t too weird. The most I’ll give is a 10 year gap mainly because there are mainly older generations that are 10 years apart. But only if the younger person is at least 20/21. If it’s like fresh outta high school that for sure seems like predator vibes.
@Jay-kx4jf
2 жыл бұрын
@@JickAudio it also depends on when/how you meet for first time. it doesnt work when youre 24 and meet a 15 year old. even after 10 years into future. if jayce was 40 and met cait for the first time when she was 30 thats a different story.
@Ghilannugs
2 жыл бұрын
@@JickAudio It's also the fact that Jayce knew her when she was way younger. One thing is getting together with someone younger than you that you've only known since they where like 20. Another thing is getting together with someone you knew when they were like 10 and you were 20.
@JickAudio
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jay-kx4jf exactly. Luckily they met when it’s like sibling vibe and not dating vibe. I feel like then people would have an issue with the Cait and Vi thing saying that it’s being forced down our throats when Jayce is right there 😂
@blobs819901
2 жыл бұрын
well Jayce did deserve a seat in the council since he did make piltover like 10 times richer by his invention and people love him, also 1 think I see you missed it the guy that viktor meet when he was a child is the man who created shimmer for silco, he is already there in act I and known as singed.
@nubcake5846
2 жыл бұрын
Plus Mel was really playing 4d chess with everyone by saying 'He's a scientist. Like Heimerdinger.' which immediately puts pressure on Heimer to say yes. Because if Heimer can become a councillor, then Jayce can become one too. I think it's really all part of Mel's plan to manipulate Jayce and the council
@blobs819901
2 жыл бұрын
@@solisargregory5609 chill dude also who you replying to, I didn't said anything about jayce and viktor a couple
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
I think I feel that he doesn't because I read him as much younger than he is.
@solisargregory5609
2 жыл бұрын
@@blobs819901 Sry, meant to be a regular comment not an answer, it was just a missclick :) Peace
@Bonegnaws
2 жыл бұрын
@@HSPaisley to be fair I don't think most of the people in the council belong there, they're all corrupt and self interested. Makes sense for them to want Jayce in and Heimer out as Heimer is the one moral standings and Jayce can help them push whatever corrupt trades they want.
@PikemanxPete
2 жыл бұрын
"groomed him, got her claws in him, and he is a ditzy himbo." It's a perfect summary of their relationship.
@Marqui91
2 жыл бұрын
I might be naive or.. worse but I felt like moderna actually cared for Jaycee for more than his opportunity to he advancement
@Eloryan
2 жыл бұрын
@@Marqui91 me too
@SleepySlann
2 жыл бұрын
@@Marqui91 Sure she cares, at the end, but at first it was definitely just a political move. And I am pretty sure that she would sacrifice him in a heartbeat, if he would get in the way of her ambitions. She would feel bad about it, but her priorities are set.
@josephmerino4243
2 жыл бұрын
I thought she looked distinctly UNcomfortable with Jayce laying his head on her lap and expressing romantic sentiment / lovey-dovey emotions... I do not think she wants a full-blown 'relationship' with him... he is now 'too clingy' and she may ghost him relationship-wise. (even if she keeps him around for the physicality of it and/or to keep him 'motivated')
@anthonydiego1176
2 жыл бұрын
@@Marqui91 definitely naïve. As she said in episode 5 to her assistant "He was a great investment". She only wants him for her own desires and goals, nothing else really.
@kangthemad5874
2 жыл бұрын
"jayce getting on the council because he's a scientist, didn't love it" . You serious? Did you miss the part where he is teleporting trade goods around the planet? Maybe i overestimate what the average person knows about that sort of thing but if someone did that in our world they would be the richest person on the planet within the year. The entire city of piltover is based around scientific advancement and was founded by scientists. He has both extreme legitimacy and political influence, whether he's on the council or not.
@maridan48
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of people don't value platonic relationships enough. Viktor, as per Jayce's own words, is like a brother to him, and that's enough. "Romance" isn't a next level for friendship, as many people seemly believe.
@sublimation72
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't feel the connection she was describing between Viktor and Jayce, but I could just not be programmed that way. I saw brothers who would give up everything for each other.
@DatAsianGuy
2 жыл бұрын
@@sublimation72 Same, they were really good friends. my relationship with my closest male friends look like that. so her saying it's queerbaiting feels wrong. I think that has more to do with the fact a lot of women don't realize how close male friends connect to each other and also because and that's something I have to say... I have met a lot of women who are weirdly obsessed with gay men/gay ships in media. like... I dunno, it's weird.
@ultravioletcatastrophe
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have a problem with this baiting if it wasn't baiting, but since it's so clearly telegraphed as a romantic relationship from their first scenes together it is baiting
@sublimation72
2 жыл бұрын
@@ultravioletcatastrophe No, no it is not. There is nothing there from the writers to imply there's more there than friends. Anything you think is there is you putting it there. Assuming this is what you're talking about.
@WaniZame
2 жыл бұрын
@@ultravioletcatastrophe some viewers are seeing what they want to see. Lots of people have been talked down from suicide attempts/standing on a bridge from a stranger and not tried to bone them afterwards. However being there for someone in their time of darkness like that does create a bond that is deep and meaningful without being romantic. It’s so sad to me that this obsession from tumbr shipping communities need to hijack and fetishise platonic male relationships for the sake of mediocre fan art.
@andrewmcmillan229
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think you can blame Jayce for not being there or prioritizing tech that could save Viktor, because Viktor has been keeping it to himself and all anyone knows is that he’s sort of a sickly fellow. As seen in real world examples like Chadwick Boseman some people can be deathly ill but still be so private about it that even close friends and family don’t know. As soon as he learns the prognosis he prioritizes the tech immediately and even kicks out his mentor Heimer who is standing in the way of his progress.
@joaovieira1595
2 жыл бұрын
I too am not the biggest fan of Jayce, but I feel like you're being a little too harsh on him. At the start of Act 2 he was ready to give up his life's work to enforce the security of piltover, and he was also quick to antagonize Heimerdinger if it meant saving Viktor. What's sad is that he is clearly being manipulated by mel, and becoming more and more of a corrupt person, but he was still trying to do good. About the part of kicking Heimerdinger from the coucil, I find myself divided between the two of them. As someone who had a lot of prior knowledge about the Piltover/Zaun situation, I have very little simpathy for the upper class, and yet, Heimer is a very likable character. However, that does not excuse the fact that as a founder of Piltover, he watched for 200 years as the people of zaun were getting more and more opressed, and he talks like he didnt have the capability to do anything in the mean time. Because of this, I understando the idea of kicking him out, because he was part of the problem to begin with. About him and Viktor, i can feel a bit of the queerbaiting you're reffering to, but it also felt obvious to me that he was gonna fall for Mel, maybe because he was pre-estabilished as a straight man in the game's lore. Also, him and Caitlyn would be reall weird, since in act 1 she was around 16/17 and he was 24. i won't spoil how it turns out in the future, but I hope the show does a good job at portraying the next moments of Viktor and Jayce's relationship. Also, Vi and Cait has been a ship in the community for YEARS, I hope they finally confirm it!!!!
@Eloryan
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly !
@darrel7493
2 жыл бұрын
Jayce has been coming across as the sort of boss a person does not want to work for. He was barking out orders without consulting people who are actually experienced. He essentially started the equivalent of 'stop and frisk' on the bridge. That never is received well. That's just going to increase tension between the cities while accomplishing little. And he did that impulsively while not listening too Marcus who is experienced. Jayce could very well start a war, since he is so clueless as to the consequences of his actions.
@joaovieira1595
2 жыл бұрын
@@darrel7493 you're absolutely right! Its actually kinda crazy how dismissive of the undercity Jayce is, considering his best friend is from there, and he even bought stuff from there to further his research, but I guess people like that exist in real life...
@eternal7912
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly the age gap between Jayce and Caitlyn ain't that big of an issue. Obviously for Jayce to be dating Caitlyn during act 1 it wouldn't be okay, but by act 2, Caitlyn is an adult, has been for years now, so it really doesn't matter. People fall in love with and marry people who are more then a few years apart all the time irl.
@joaovieira1595
2 жыл бұрын
@@eternal7912 I mean, they do, but hardly if they've known each other when one of them was a kid. I think, at least. If they first met during act 2 it would be a lot more normal. Its just that some people were shiping them since act 1, which is weird...
@ri3121
2 жыл бұрын
The only thing is disagree with is the queerbating. It feels like what that comment means, when it is thrown around, is that 2 guys cannot be close without being gay. You assumed that viktor and jayce were gay because they cared about each other, and they were very close. What you are implicitly saying (at least it feals that way to me) is that if a guy cares for another guy, the HAVE to be gay. There was nothing romantic going on between viktor and jayce. These kind of comments are part of the reason why a lot of men are scared to get to close and open with other guys. Because people will call them gay
@Eloryan
2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@DenverZenn
2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the problem I have with the shipping community at large. I don't know if anything was supposed to be interpreted as romantic between Victor and Jayce, but they still draw remarks of queerbaiting because some people just really wanted something to be there. Have you seen this show? Every other aspect of Arcane's writing is so very on the nose it would've been impossible to miss. If it's ambiguous, I would put money on it not being a thing the writers intended. The more appropriate interpretation of Victor and Jayce is more likely supposed to be Vander and Silco. And Powder and Vi. Heck, the "you were/are family to me" thing is an such a repeating motif that I'm surprised it's not seen as too heavy handed.
@laiainautumn-1252
2 жыл бұрын
I hate that. That’s just an example of why guys don’t feel they can show any emotions or be “vulnerable” without getting labels slapped on them. Nothing wrong with being gay but I hate that people think that boys who care for each other = gay. It’s so harmful.
@vashpede1572
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Also I am surprised that this was even a ship, like where did this theory even come from. I did not even consider or see anything romantic between them the whole show.
@lockekappa500
2 жыл бұрын
I think what could have been confused as queerbaiting was simply a one sided relationship (in Viktor having a thing for Jayce) but obviously not the other way around. This was then kind of shown to never come to fruition because of his interest in Mel, but also it kind of shows it MIGHT have been a thing with Viktor's obvious lack of interest in his assistant. Hard to say what these things implied. Perhaps they were just throwing us for a loop as to what exactly the motives behind the relationship between Jayce and Viktor were. I dont think it was handled super well, but I wouldnt go as far as saying its queer baiting.
@aleksihamalainen7881
2 жыл бұрын
Couple things I think you missed/misunderstood: The guy Viktor met was the same guy who made Shimmer (the monster juice). Silco hasn't been lying to Jinx/Powder about Vi being dead. Marcus had her locked up in the prison without her name or crime being recorded and told Silco that Vi had died. This is clearly shown when Sevika tells Silco that Vi is back and when Silco is playing with Marcus' kid. Jinx THINKS Silco has been lying to her all this time. And I find it really funny how mad you are at Jace 😂
@miklauzknaus
2 жыл бұрын
btw, when she was asking how old jayce was in act 1, i was like dayum. He litteraly said how old he is in act 1 ep 2 when he was in jail and heimerdonger came to speak to him.
@charlielu4083
2 жыл бұрын
I think Jayce deserves a little more credit. I want to first say that it's really understandable why people would ship Viktor and Jayce but I don't think there's a bait and switch happening here. Those two have not had a conversation that was not about work. They don't really flirt. Viktor never expresses jealousy in the attention Jayce gets. I think Viktor doesn't even have an interest that isn't making a huge breakthrough in hextech before he dies/in order to prolong his life. They're partners but not in the romantic sense. I think people are shipping them mainly because they're two idealistic young males who share a vision and a passion and because of their partnership can be viewed as a unit. Totally understandable that they're being shipped but I would say those traits don't mean they have to be romantically interested in each other. All this to say, Viktor and Jayce are both adults and are allowed to have free time. Jayce can go see whoever he wants and Viktor doesn't seem to care to pry into his personal activities. Jayce immediately goes to Viktor's side still and goes to kick Heimer off the council to try to expedite the research to save Viktor's life too. This is all the more emphasized by the fact that Jayce begrudgingly agreed with Heimer and didn't reveal the hextech core at the speech in Ep 4 when Viktor and him very much intended to lift the curtain and expedite research through public pressure. I want to also say I think it's a sign of good writing on Riot's side if it seems like every one of Jayce's options is the wrong option. It shows that they've made it quite clear that the situation is nuanced and each option has negatives to them. It's no coincidence that you called Jayce disloyal in episode 4 for not revealing the hextech core at the beginning and then went on to criticize him kicking Heimer off the council to expedite research on the core for Viktor's sake in episode 6. I think a lot of Jayce's actions in this part are understandable given the position he's been put in and the information he knows. All this to say, I think Jayce isn't as bad as you might think he is and I think deserves a little more credit than being a "bad boyfriend". I also just want to ask why would the councilors appoint Jayce to a position where his job is to oversee the hextech gates aren't being misused and then get mad at him when he stops illegal goods from going through them... which is... ya know... the JOB YOU GAVE HIM????? I wanted to also say that although I don't think Jayce and Viktor are queerbaiting, I think Caitlyn and Vi could be. The problem I see is that there are only 3 episodes left and I'm not sure if there's space for that romantic subplot to develop without feeling a little shoehorned in. Medarda and Jayce already feel a bit rushed. Oh also def agree with Jayce being a himbo and being manipulated by Medarda.
@SleepyJesika
2 жыл бұрын
very agreed, I didn't feel this "Romantic" connection everyone is talking about between them.
@WaniZame
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly how I see it! I think Vi and Cait will become overt in the final act so won’t be baiting but the relationship between Jayce and Viktor is clearly brotherly. In all honesty I would go as far as to say Viktor isn’t even that interested in Jayce other than for his ideas.
@Vizible21
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you said but not with "Jayce and Mel relationship rushed." The thing is the writers in this series like to make things as nuanced as possible. And it was obvious that Mel has a thing with Jayce. And I even predicted that Mel would make the first move. And she did. Don't ask me why it's just that it was set up perfectly.
@Vizible21
2 жыл бұрын
@@WaniZame i will be surprised if they would continue to go deep with Vi and Cait's relationship. I think for me their interaction is just fan service. Even from the beginning in the game Vi and Cait has a thing. And they're probably hella gay tbh but I doubt that they would go as far show that in the series. But hey I'm glad they even managed to hint on that relationship.
@supremeio5930
2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to Cait and Vi I don't think they should have them have full blown relationship in Act 3. They can show signs of it growing or being a possibility but it's something that should wait for a season or two. Or another time jump which I doubt they will do. So basically it's for the next season to make it blossom.
@colbyduniventehs
2 жыл бұрын
As far as your hatred of Jayce, if at all possible I'd like for you to explain it to me. Your quarrel seems to be with him being this "bad boyfriend" character. The problem is, while you very clearly empathize with these people who are in genuinely terrible circumstances, like Jinx, you're not empathizing with Jayce. He was just a simple student who was reaching for an end goal, and ended up being given the opportunity. In this arc, he is suddenly hailed as this "Savior" or piltover, and the "Man of Progress," and has a ton riding on his shoulders. Early on it's obvious he yearns for Viktor's accelerated pace of discover and advancement, but also wants to consider Heimerdinger's point of view, that maybe these aren't quite ready for the public. Later on, he's suddenly thrust into global politics, being placed on the council (which, from the perspective of the council, Jayce is a prodigy that has literally made a new form of technology, and brought prosperity to their town, of course it would make sense if he was on the council) and dealing with everything that comes with that responsibility. I'm sure he knew of Viktor's illness, but not the severity of it, as is clear when he finds Viktor after his pass-out episode with the Hex Core. At this point, he realizes just how severe Viktor's situation is, and INSTANTLY springs into action, removing what is GENUINELY the biggest barrier to both of their advancements; Heimerdinger. Now, on this subject, I think that both Heimer and Jayce are wrong and right. You have to understand that Heimerdinger is a Yordle, a magic race that doesn't really age, and basically can't die. He has no concept of human mortality, so it's easy for him to say "take another 10 years to perfect it," when Viktor CLEARLY doesn't have that time. At the same time, he HAS seen genuine devastation caused by magic, and it makes sense that he's so cautious. I guess my point is, the reason I personally love this show so much, is that no one in it is completely right or wrong. Jayce has made bad decisions obviously, but each one was made with the best of intentions. Every character in this show deserves empathy! :D
@FezReta
2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. This show is great displaying the limited perspectives of our characters, VI telling Cait all enforcers are criminals with a suit, or cait asking in disbelief where VIs parents are, jayce as you pointed out, even hiemerdinger being bad at explaining why the hextect gemstone needs 10 more years. Everyone seems to lack a wide range of initial perspective
@supremeio5930
2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. It is always strange when people dislike or like a character for things they made up, that has nothing in the story to justify it like the "bad boyfriend" thing she said.
@dunzdaping3620
2 жыл бұрын
I thought I'm the only one who empathize everyone in this show hahaha
@shibernyan2009
2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better. Jayce is in a very difficult spot and is just trying to do the right thing. One moment he takes Heimerdinger's side and the next he takes Mel's, which to me also suggests that Mel isn't manipulating him as much as people say. Otherwise Jayce would do exactly what she wants all the time, but instead he seems to put her on the spot as well, to achieve his own goals. So far Jayce has only shown that he makes his own decisions for his own reasons. The constant mention of the 'bad boyfriend' thing also didn't really sit right with me. Jayce isn't a bad character just because he didn't end up in the relationship you wanted him to be in, which was already based on very miniscule, possible hints of romantic tension.
@Omosisthefuture
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who’s played the game for a while and know’s some of the lore, it’s cool to see other people’s raw reactions and reviews of this. I just wanna add a couple things. Jayce is probably in his 30s by now, and he was 24 in act one. Jayce kicked heimer off the council to try to protect the research that could save Viktor’s life. It’s still a horrible thing to do to the person who’s always looked after you, and there was probably a far better approach. Your call on organic matter going into the hex crystal was so good btw. I wouldn’t say Jayce and Viktor’s relationship is queer baiting. Every time these two interact it’s they’re either working or talking about work. Viktor didn’t seek him out because of interest in Jayce. He sought him out because of interest in his studies. Viktor has always kinda seemed like a dude who doesn’t care about love and other things. With his condition it was almost like he ignored emotional connections with other people due to suspicion that he might die from his sickness. Although I can kinda see where you’re coming from with that. Different people see different things. Also Medarda is incredibly shady to say the least.
@ScorpioDRush621
2 жыл бұрын
Don't get all the Jayce/Viktor boyfriend references, I haven't seen a single scene that eluded romantic feelings between the two, one sided or otherwise. They make a good Scientist Duo, but I pretty firmly believe their both there 'for the cause' though in this act I think both start to change 'the cause'. Jayce gets pulled into political swamps and Viktor goes back to meet his 'mentor' singed with a new understanding. Similarly, although Jayce and Caitlyn show great familiarity and friendship, I don't think they have shown anything that signals they are, would like to, or will be a couple at any point in time. It's pretty clear thru the act that Vi doesn't care particularly much whether Caitlyn is present or not. I think Caitlyn's eyes are being opened to aspects of the world she knows very little about, but I don't think this includes romantic feelings for Vi. Not sure why people keep fostering romantic relationships where none exist.
@JeffreyBezeau
2 жыл бұрын
Yup, i never, ever felt anything like any kind of romance between Jayce and Viktor. There was great respect, admiration and "friendship into science and goals" but the whole baiting thing is not even hinted in any ways. Mel and Jayce is a relationship of influence, desire and power all along in my opinion. They benefits from one another, in the end. As for Cait and Vi, they will definitly play "on the edge" of romance between those two as it always have been this way between those two Lorewise, and fanbase wise. Nothing is ever said clearly, but things can easily turn this way as there were already subtle hints at it... and most of the fanbase want it to happen so they might as well just do it because it would make sense in a certain way. Can't wait to see what's gonna happen between Viktor and Singed tho, how things are going to turn out in this laboratory. Those two were my mains at some point in the game and i'm more than happy to see they met and share a common past at some point of their history.
@toamszkozak8822
2 жыл бұрын
Nah dude, Cait and Vi definitely have a thing for each other
@gman7497
2 жыл бұрын
Jayce and Viktor could probably be taken a few different ways, like a tight brotherly bond or friendship if you choose to see it that way. With Vi and Cait, especially in the brothel sequence and then afterwards in episode 6 by the looks they exchange when Cait is holding Vi's head, implies that there is significant attraction there. Show creators don't put this stuff in for no reason.
@JickAudio
2 жыл бұрын
The Jayce and Viktor thing seems like a stretch for sure. But the Cait and Vi had been established since their release. It’s not official on paper of course, but this series will either confirm or not if they’re cannon or just having the illusion of being together. Kinda like Roy and Riza from Fullmetal Alchemist. We as an audience know that they’re reserved for each other and no one else, but their situation doesn’t allow them to be together.
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
"Wait... this isn't my bedroom..."
@Dolosify
2 жыл бұрын
There's a pretty good theory going on that the leader of the firelights (the masked gang) is Ekko!
@solaireofastora8861
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe.. but its unlikely because if it was he would have sympathy ever since the first scene and would talk to jinx
@joaovieira1595
2 жыл бұрын
@@solaireofastora8861 i also didnt wanna believe it, but during the act 3 teaser, at 0:37 u can see ekko with one of the hoverboards, so its pretty much confirmed
@ximienlundquist8487
2 жыл бұрын
Why would you ever tell someone this unless you’re an asshole?
@Pheonixess
2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty obvious knowing Ekko's time theme. He worked on clocks as a kid, and he had a pocket watch as the firelights leader.
@JickAudio
2 жыл бұрын
@@solaireofastora8861 not unless Jinx has been killing his friends over the years she’s been with Silco. In other games, Ekko has stated he had a crush on her, but he no longer does since she lost sight of Powder and just views her as Jinx. This doesn’t seem to be the first Firelight attack either. And it appears that Piltover doesn’t seem to know who the Firelight group is, but Silco’s group does. You know who’s good at tracking people? Ekko. Even if it isn’t Ekko, he’s more than likely associated with this group.
@andrewallen6860
2 жыл бұрын
I feel such intense pity for Viktor; he's been sick his entire life, so much so he could never play with the other children because he was so frail, and that frailty grew with him.
@lapaskiauras696
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think viktor likes Jayce that much Viktor purely interested in Hextech itselfand Jayce just the person who knows the most about it.
@namamora1190
2 жыл бұрын
is just nonsense, i duno why grown up adults have to react like children in middle school, two people cant have a conversation cause then they are inmediatly a couple, telling u, is like school all over again, grown up, PEOPLE!
@user-fp3in2kf3b
2 жыл бұрын
Dont see them as "gay couple". They look more like a best friends. Brothers - like Jayce said. So for Victor sake, Jayce is ready to stand up against his mentor Heimer
@user-dy9bi8vd4i
2 жыл бұрын
She is just trying to make them a gay couple for a reason.. obv she is into that shit but it's still annoying when she is disgusted for Jayce and his relationship with Mel but she is so excited for Cait and vi. I guess she cannot stand when people of the same sex is partners or something instead of a couple xD
@viziontrex
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-dy9bi8vd4i y'all really not connecting two and two together when Viktor said "Wait this isn't my bedroom" when he and Jayce got caught by Mel trying to sneak into the lab in the middle of the night? I'm straight and even my neurons fired up at that line. Everything else afterward with that in mind just adds up.
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
@ViZion_T-ReX I appreciate you.
@vilheim9508
2 жыл бұрын
Just a clarification, Cait was taken by the firelights as well. They could have showed it better but there's a brief moment you see a gang member carrying her off out of the smoke. The old guy in Viktor's story is the same guy who made the Shimmer drug (purple stuff) in the first arc. So definitely nefarious.
@thetesso5707
2 жыл бұрын
His name is Singed, and yes you are correct.
@zissoulander
2 жыл бұрын
Right, Act 3 will feature Victor combining shimmer (chemtech) and Hextech in order to save his life. GLORIOUS MACHINE REVOLUTION!
@McSireson
2 жыл бұрын
I am in the minority, but i did not sense a romantic vibe between Jayce and Viktor either, i might need to be beat over the head with such things though, like in the case of Vi and Cait. I think they're just friends, and the division starts with Jayce stepping in to the spotlight while Viktor is slowly withering away in the shadows. Love your reviews and reactions as always.
@Uuodin
2 жыл бұрын
With you on this one. I dont see it aswell
@inFAMOUSBlastshards
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I would say Jayce/Vik's relationship was platonic with the potential to develop in the romantic direction, it just didn't pan out that way. Juxtaposed to Jayce/Cait's relationship which was platonic with zero potential to develop in the romantic direction. Like, if Jayce/Vik developed in a romantic direction I wouldn't be like "woah, this is weird!" where as with Jayce/Cait I would.
@supremeio5930
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I never thought of Jayce and Viktor romantically. It makes no sense and nothing implies it was or is a thing. Also Jayce and Caitlyn too, they also only ever gave off a feeling of friendship. Mel and Jayce had a glimpse or two where they had shown there could and would be a romantic or at least sexual relationship. Vi and Caitlyn started almost immediately after they got to the Lanes. I think the Jayce/Viktor or Jayce/Caitlin thing is just people wanting something there that isn't. For some reason if people are friends or close that must mean to too many people there is something romantic or sexual.
@boomarcus22
2 жыл бұрын
I didnt get that whole boyfriend vibe while watching these episodes but the fact that you kept saying it freakin HILARIOUS. Everytime hahaha "bad boyfriend >:^(" Also great call on the Hexcore needing organic matter. Didnt even cross my mind, and I actually play league lol
@bjen3273
2 жыл бұрын
I caught it, but I honestly see it more as a close friendship or maybe a bromance thing than actual sexual tension
@farisshah6060
2 жыл бұрын
@@bjen3273 yeah I disagree with the “queer-baiting”. Viktor literally saved Jayce’s life. As a result, we can see a special bond formed between them, but it’s not sexual in any form. I hate that there are some extreme shippers out there accusing Riot Games of being homophobic & that they hate gay men for not realizing such relationship.
@XxMoonWolfxX
2 жыл бұрын
@@farisshah6060 imagine saying that Riot hates gay men when some of the earliest champs are Taric, Ezreal and Varus lol
@ISkinn00RI
2 жыл бұрын
@@XxMoonWolfxX Well Varus got released 2012 and wasn't gay at all. He had a wife and children. His lore got changed at the end of 2017 to be this way.
@luciferien5604
2 жыл бұрын
@@4lbfer You have not understood anything about the relationship between Jayce and Vicktor! Whether he's bi or gay or straight or pan-sexual we don't care! It's a fanfiction and everyone has the right to do it! The problem is to make many LGBT people believe that Jayce and Viktor were dating when they were never in love! and never dated ! The creators of the show are not here to piss you off but to adapt a show based on LOL the love relationship of the characters they don't care and when they have to linger they show from the beginning if the characters of the show are attracted to each other! from act 1 Jayce and Vicktor were not flirting and were not in love! and that at any time of the 3 episodes. For example in act 2 of episode 5 the writers of the show make us understand correctly that Vi finds Caitlyn sexy not only she tells her verbally but she also asks her if "she prefers men or women?", there we understand clearly that at this moment they are not in a couple but Vi finds her cute and that maybe in act 3 their relationship will evolve to a love relationship and they will end up kissing! None of this type of interaction was present in Jayce and Vicktor from act 1 in episode 2 when they met! so those who had "properly" watched the series from the beginning had noticed that Jayce and Vicktor were not flirting! and had just met so no, they couldn't be in a relationship, but their relationship could still evolve in act 2 But in episode 5 the writers clearly show and confirm that Jayce is sexually attracted to women, they don't say he can't be attracted to men, they just clearly show that Jayce and Vicktor's relationship has not evolved into a romantic relationship, that's all! And Jayce verbally tells Mel in episode 5 that he considers Vicktor a brother, he makes that clear! this is not speculation, go watch the episodes again
@MisterSunshine17
2 жыл бұрын
Katelin and Vi have a lot of interactions in the game, having the wildest gay panic. Just a LOT! This is felt especially in those moments when, at death in the game, Katelin can whisper the name of Vi, even if she is not in the party🥺💔
@TheRezyn
2 жыл бұрын
Don't want to disrupt you but someone will eventually do it, it's spelled Caitlyn :-)!
@AlphalVerd
2 жыл бұрын
Vi is cannon at least bi, she has a dialogue in another game saying something like ‘I have a date to get to, she always gets mad when I’m late’
@LadyWgun
2 жыл бұрын
@@AlphalVerd Ohhh I wonder who that "she" cant be.. Might be Caitlyn right? I'm hopeless for this pair
@travelkingable
2 жыл бұрын
Same thing in the LOL card game, if Caitlin dies she goes "Tell Vi..." When she dies.
@johanflock_art
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I’m naive but having finished act 3 and knowing how they support eachother I’m pretty sure Medardas feelings for Jayce are genuine in the end, wven rhough it all started out as a tactical move
@sexyjohnvue
2 жыл бұрын
Act 1 Heimerdinge: "How old are you, Jayce?" Jayce: "I'm 24." Heimerdinger: "Well I am 307 years old, my boy."
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
OMG he's SO much older than I thought.
@mihail221
2 жыл бұрын
Heimerdinger is like Yoda in a way
@mtomic87
2 жыл бұрын
I was actually on board with Mel/Jayce right up until the point when he confided in her and she said "So why did you come to me with this?". That boy is clueless.
@supremeio5930
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think it was just for fun to her, and for him it meant much more.
@jervisangelopitao7118
2 жыл бұрын
Guess we'll see what happens in the noxus episode
@Kadeda
2 жыл бұрын
Man... I feel like the complete opposite of you on a lot of things I feel. For one... I absolutely love all of these characters... even Marcus and especially Jayce. They are not simple black and white morality... there human. I never seen Jayce and Victor as some romance thing... they just boys. Best friends. I was more shocked at how strong Jinx is in canon. In the game she's just some lunatic with guns and bombs... In this she has Ultra Instinct. I was pretty sure Jayce was going to like Mel from jump. Jayce was also willing to shut his technology down to keep everyone safe. The main reason he kicked Heim off the council was because he was against the research that could keep Victor alive. I also understand Heim concerns for safety if he remembers the runic wars centuries ago. Marcus is stuck between a rock and a hard place. That's rough man. Victor... Love the guy. Completely set on the glorious revolution. Cait and Vi are great and it's kool to see their dynamic for the first time fleshed out. I feel the worst for Vi to be honest. Your sister kills all of your friends and dad and you have one moment of weakness which turned your sister into a psychopath. Jinx is great... just as nutty as I would expect. In the lore... she kind of trolls Vi a lot but it's clear that she still loves her sister. Jinx is pretty damn cracked though. Everyone is scared of her. Age wise it's pretty interesting... they are not at the ages they are in LOL yet so we can knock that down. It's pretty hard to figure out but I will do my best. Vi: 19-20 Cait: 19-20 Vi and Cait are around the same age. Jinx: 17-18 Despite looks when they were younger... Jinx and Vi are around the same age. Ekko: 12ish He's a good deal younger than Jinx and Vi. Jayce: 29... was 24 in act one. Victor: 29 Jayce and Victor are around the same age. Heim : 300+ yordles age weirdly. If he know of the runic wars he's 1000+ but their space time works differently.
@JangoMango007
2 жыл бұрын
Vi was 17 in Act I (we get this info in client for the game) and Caitlin is described as around the same age in Act II so with about a 6 year time skip means they’re 22/23
@HazelAmarie
2 жыл бұрын
Vi was 14-16 in act 1 she doesn’t look that old
@JangoMango007
2 жыл бұрын
@@HazelAmarie Council archives in the League of Legends client say she was about 17 when she was put in Stillwater. Saying she “doesn’t look that old” doesn’t mean anything when people can look widely different at different ages and it’s an animated series.
@HazelAmarie
2 жыл бұрын
@@JangoMango007 I’m going off what the writers themselves confirmed not the game. She was around 14-16
@JangoMango007
2 жыл бұрын
@@HazelAmarie got a link?
@HazelAmarie
2 жыл бұрын
@@JangoMango007 It’s on Twitter…. Amanda Overton is one of the writers and she confirmed Vi was around 14-16 during act 1
@Garim1337
2 жыл бұрын
Jayce basically got a new coucil seat because they had to have someone overseeing Hextech operations and legislature. Because Jayce is the Face of Hextech he was the logical choice to do so, especially because he is easy to manipulate. For me it makes total sense that Jayce, even if very young, gets a seat at the council. Heimerdinger lost his seat only, because he objected the whole philosophy and was a thorn in the ey of the council. My Opinion after watching it once, so be free to discuss/enlighten me
@tyleredwards9799
2 жыл бұрын
Haha, couple things, the scientist Viktor met (Singed) wasn't trying to keep Rio (the creature) alive, he was trying to keep the mutation "alive", keeping the cells propagating so he could harvest the Shimmer (the purple steroid/monster drug) The one who took Vi seems to clearly know her, as well as Jinx. And there are several things pointing to the leader being Ekko, it would seem everyone in Zaun knows she's working for Silco these days, and Ekko has a lot of reasons to hate her as a result. Not to mention her killing several of his friends. The firelights are teens, the character wears very similar clothes to ekko and has the red scarf, he also has Ekko's hourglass symbol on his shirt (alongside the other time symbols: stopwatch etc), the mask the firelight leader uses is very similar to the mask Ekko was looking through in the first episode, and the weapon he used (oversized key thing) is used very similarly to how Ekko wields the clock hand bat. I personally don't think Viktor and Jayce was queerbaiting, cuz neither were strongly presented in "flirty" situations, there was the impression that they *could* decide to lean in and make them have a relationship dynamic beyond partners/friends, but it didn't feel like they stepped into that line, as they sorta did with Cait/Vi. Cait/Vi I think are def implied to each be open to women (xD, did u catch the lesbian lighting in the scene shortly after cait saves vi?), but wouldn't quite say they've been (in story) primed to like eachother that sort of way yet. Even the more intimate moment after Cait gives Vi the "potion", when she's staring into her face seemed more like "I'm makin sure you're alright" rather than hinting there's an attraction... cuz she pulled away pretty quickly after, and there was no awkward tension displayed. By the end of the season they probs will develop more hints towards a burgeoning relationship tho. In regards to Jinx, I think the first act set up that she does have some mental issues, not in the way she is now, but more along the lines of being "overly dependent", and having an obsessive compulsion to always be around the people she attached to. The way she latches onto people so quickly and so extremely had been pretty strongly referenced in the first act imo, with the resultant panic attack and how she behaved in that scene further hinting it. I think that's what lead to her future break downs and then the situation with the explosion itself and subsequent blame that fractured her psyche. The attachment itself then quickly went over to silco, who did foster it (tho I don't think maliciously, I believe he genuinely does regard her as his daughter, due to recognizing they're both tortured and betrayed souls. He's blinded by that attachment to her in turn, going so far to blame Sevika for the mishaps, even though Jinx was logically the one at fault. It's interesting cuz Silco never actually *lied* to Jinx... he didn't know Vi was still alive, he'd paid Marcus (the enforcer sherrif) to kill and get rid of her... it was only shortly after Silco found out about Vi being alive that Jinx did too, and the two (Silco and Jinx) hadn't interacted up to that point... [tho we can assume he likely wouldnt've told her, since he was aiming to kil Vi anyway]. Overall, I think I preferred this act over act 1, cuz there was more time to breathe and establish more worldbuilding. Both were stellar though. Excited for the final act, it seems like Noxus is coming to play (Mel's family).
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
I prefered act 1 too.
@LadyWgun
2 жыл бұрын
"she pulled away pretty quickly after" Ehh what? That scene was like 10 seconds in what universe you hold another persons face for so long and so close and so tender when you just known them for 1 day? I swear guys sometimes you're so thickheaded that even something shown before your eyes is too difficult for you to see..
@tyleredwards9799
2 жыл бұрын
@@LadyWgun ... She'd been stabbed, was bleeding out, and Cait was pouring a liquid down her throat. Hell u can see Vi swallowing it and barely a second later cait's backing away. Zero tension was established between the two in that moment, no prolonged staring at eachother's lips or even an awkward cough. There was some care obvi, but it was clinical.
@0927kira
2 жыл бұрын
i love how honest you are with your understanding and opinion 💖
@BabbelLegend
2 жыл бұрын
Woo! Excited for this! Act two was by far better than act one, in my opinion!
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
We can agree to disagree hahaha
@BabbelLegend
2 жыл бұрын
@@HSPaisley Fine by me! :)
@gman7497
2 жыл бұрын
I think for fans of LoL it was great to see all the political stuff and worldbuilding. But yeah to some that were more invested in the Vi/Powder stuff from the first act and wanted to see that explored more, it was probably a bit frustrating. I was kinda surprised that Vi was only really in 2 of the 3 episodes tbh.
@zammea
2 жыл бұрын
I think you missed a big chunk of the show. Saing that without a pointer will be rude, so let me reiterate. Jinx was always unstable just because she saw death from a young age (4-5) / bridge scene. Also, Zaun is this underground heaven for criminals and gangs just because the police is only present in Piltover. On Jayce and Victor, their relationship is not querie baiting, it is true bromance! On Jayce and Cait, Jayce always had feelings for her. However she did not, she practically see him as an older brother now! Jayce was 24 at the start of the show. Fireflights (the gang with the hoverboards and mask - theory: are the resistance fighters against the Chem-Barons /Silco and Co. / ). Vi is So emotionally scared that she is done in a way as hyper-aggressive. Fireflights took Vi and Cait (the theory is that they are somehow connected). If I'm not mistaken Victor is actually a bad Guy in the lore, and they did not have such Bromance. Victor and Singed (the professor ) never met in the lore.
@tasuja1827
2 жыл бұрын
Viktor actually started The Glorious Evolution ingame to help out others! He replaces people's parts with robotic parts to save them or make their life better in the undercity where the poor people are.
@roymc89
2 жыл бұрын
I will never understand why people ship viktor and jayce, like jayce said "they are like brothers" and they never do something sus, in the other hand i can clearly see caitlyn and vi, and unpopular opinion but i would like vi to be straigh to not get into a cliche of the macho girl being gay
@soul-1641
2 жыл бұрын
That’s the thing tho, the “you’re like my brother” is used extremely often to basically disconfirm any ship between two man, literally always. It’s obviously done on purpose and people were shipping them well before even arcane came out, with act 1 fueling the fire a bit people were happy for maybe a mlm relationship between main characters in a popular show, but no, we get again “he’s like my brother” as always.
@roymc89
2 жыл бұрын
@@soul-1641 what do you mean even before arcane, ive been ready and watching videos of the lore of lol for year and this is the first time i heard about that ship
@Kaeresh
2 жыл бұрын
Call me nuts, but quick calc. Hair growing at roughly 1cm a month, assuming jinx is roughly 1m 60cm (5' 4" ish) that means she mustve grown around 120cm of hair between episode 3 and 4, taking around 10 years or she's wearing extensions... 🤷♀️
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@budzie3844
2 жыл бұрын
Jayce getting put into the council isn’t too far fetched. The council is all powerful merchant clans so it makes sense that Jayce, who invented the hex gates and pushed trades that much further would be on the council since hextech is now very valuable and only jayce and viktor know how to use it. As for jayce and viktor I think they both had mutual interests, and I didn’t get any romantic vibes from them. I did however feel bad at how jayce became a celebrity and got all the game while viktor wasn’t. As for jayce and Mel, it’s supposed to be just that. Mel is using jayce for her own gain, as are the other councillors, hiemer is the only one who actually seems to care. I also think jayce was trying to save viktor by voting Hiem off. Jayce seemed interested in helping viktor who he thinks of as a brother. However Hiemer was against it, because of the huge safety risks. Therefore it’s more of a grey area when jayce votes him out. Nevertheless it’s still extremely sad since we know hiemer founded the city and now he’s being voted off and the merchants are just gonna carelessly use hextech.
@budzie3844
2 жыл бұрын
@Gonzalez Ignacio Joaquin he also said he didn’t just want to be an assistant. It just seems like jayce is getting all the credit while viktor is being pushed to the side even if he doesn’t care.
@Serryy
2 жыл бұрын
Jayce and Viktor wasnt queerbaiting either. There is no indication that Jayce is attracted to Viktor or is there? Im happy to get corrected if someone points out what i missed.
@cyden1050
2 жыл бұрын
By the end of episode 6 Powder is confused, because of her PTSD and schizophrenia she can't tell if Vi was actually there and that she wasn't just an other hellucination, you can see that right at the end after she screams. They use the effect of her ptsd episodes. Hence the question " Are you real? "
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
Yikes. Yeah, that one over my head a little bit.
@severedproxy
2 жыл бұрын
I was actually happy with how Jayce acted (because I'm biased) because for years people have painted him up as the perfect goody two shoes "man of tomorrow" when I've known all this time that he's an egotistical backstabbing tony stark wannabee (before anybody asks, no, nobody hurt me). Now, I'm just waiting for him to throw Viktor under the bus...I know they changed the story a bit but, still hoping he'll do it. Anyhoo, Imma go and recruit more people to join "THE GLORIOUS EVOLUTION" *insert russian accent edit: ACT 2, jayce was 24, so after the time skip (not confirm how long, I'm speculating about 10 years...maybe) he might be early to mid 30's and he got a seat at the council because IMHO he's the only one who knows how to operate the gates...actually there's also viktor but he's a nobody without a proper family so to the aristocrats it's better to give all responsibility to the man from the lower houses than to an equally brilliant scientist from zaun that is not part of our society.
@alvinlilliestierna4537
2 жыл бұрын
I believe the elderly fellow that kind of mentors Viktor is the same guy who makes the shimmer for Silco.
@lucassilverio2880
2 жыл бұрын
Btw the "man" who tried to keep the giant mutant salamander alive has also made an appearance in the first episode making experiments with a lab rat at Silco's place. He's called Singed and is probably gonna be a lot more important than he seemed in the first episode to people who don't know league of legends. Spoiler: Because he's a champion, and basically everyone from zaum has contact with him to a certain extent. Also he's probably gonna become somewhat a villain for jinx and vi for creating warwick, which a lot of people is speculating that it's jinx and vi's "father".
@loonynine22
2 жыл бұрын
Spot on with Mel when jayce went to lay his head on her lap she looked kinda surprised i dont think she cares about him much, hes just a pawn for her advancement.
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
for sure.
@TheAnscarii
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not so sure about that. It feels to me that she is simply not used to that kind of behavior. Being a political animal since her young days it must be shocking to her find someone with that straightforward and vulnerable attitude. I really think she cares.
@hishamziard8473
2 жыл бұрын
Just finished act 3 last night. Can’t wait to see what you have to say about the finale closing for the season. IMHO as a league of legends fan, I can confidently and wholeheartedly say it is the greatest piece of media (books, movies,shows, anime) within the Action, adventure, sci-fi, fiction genre. In terms of visuals, it is groundbreaking and it surpasses the possibilities within love-action and exceeds any benchmark of animation set before. It is the best animation in history to date. That is a fact. And the story…. Omfg I cannot even
@swaarning
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how many noticed, but the scientist mutation guy that Viktor comes upon as young child and later the bald guy with the scarf is the same guy that worked for Silco with the cat vs rat and the whole purple drug! He is in the game btw. his name is Singed!
@nielnielsen4822
2 жыл бұрын
It was even in the credits of the show.
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
I WAS WONDERING WHY HE LOOKED FAMILIAR!!!!!!! THANK! YOU!
@Arezoo298195
2 жыл бұрын
Yup Mel is totally using him and he’s clueless. Poor boy.
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
Poor poor boy.
@vcprovost
2 жыл бұрын
Mel can use me too😍
@devinnavarro585
2 жыл бұрын
Lmao I love that there's like legit reason for anger at Jace but for some reason I feel like a lot of it comes from your ship not going through 🤣🤣
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
Heimerdinger too.
@EverYuri
2 жыл бұрын
@@HSPaisley I mean, he most likely did to save the orther side of your ship.
@cyanure1320
2 жыл бұрын
by the way the Hermerdinger retirement Jayce did that for Victor. If Hermerdinger would convice the counsel to destroy Victor researches , they would have no hope for saving his life anymore
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
Because their boyfriends 🤣🤣 sorry. Couldn't help myself. The lengths people are going in this comment section to tell me that there's no gay people in the entire world is incredible. I actually love this take, I didn't really put that together. Mostly because I was too busy hating Jace and thinking he was selfish. But I really like this take! Thank you!
@danny9253
2 жыл бұрын
@@HSPaisley Nobody is saying there gay people aren't in the world.... what? Vi and Cait look like they're going to be in a relationship, but Jayce and Viktor have had no romantic hints at all. They both have a passion for Hextech, they're close friends, but that seems to be it. Jayce literally says Viktor is like his brother in episode 5. Except for the scenes where Viktor saves Jayce, and Jayce is at Viktor's hospital bed, any time we see them together they're working. They obviously care about one another, but it has never seemed like anything more than just a close friendship.
@cyanure1320
2 жыл бұрын
@@HSPaisley except if this have interesting consequences on the main storyline, i m not fond of showcasing sexual orientations in a fantasy action adventure show. Personally, knowing if they are gays hetero asexual, scat or sadomaso is not really what interest me about this characters and this story.
@halimardayldz3572
2 жыл бұрын
Jayce and Victor are clearly bros, not lovers.
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
"wait... This isn't my bedroom."
@dejizza
2 жыл бұрын
I liked these episodes but it really felt like they were just mad set up for Part 3. I bet watching Part 2 and 3 together will make more sense
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@WanderingBottle
2 жыл бұрын
I think the 3 by 3 release rate is pretty good to be honest because it doesn't force the writers into building tension at the end of each episodes as much.
@richardthecowardlylion5289
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I love the new release method. Get to experience full, complete Acts that they can work organically, like an story, not have to make 10 individual mini- Acts.
@gpaje
2 жыл бұрын
The hexgates were operational for at least 4 years, it would take several years just to get hextech approved along with designing and building the gates. I suspect the actual time jump is at least 7-10 years.
@NerieI
2 жыл бұрын
Nope. LoL Client has Vi's Prison File, with several reports. In the first one when Marcus gets her to the Prison, it is said, she is approx. 17. In the last, she is in her early 20s. That means at most, you can go for 6 Years. Nothing more.
@gpaje
2 жыл бұрын
@@NerieI Early 20s could be up to 24, which puts her up to 7 years. My estimate was 7-10 years, so I'm at my lower estimate. So Yes, LoL.
@LeyIinn
2 жыл бұрын
@@NerieI Jinx was 7 in act one as said by vi when she compared caitlyn to her when they were going to zaun while parkouring down and jinx now seems around her late teens so 10 is the more likely answer
@fedilogediemarcusq.9385
2 жыл бұрын
to does who don't play league of legends Imagine dragons in arcane are called "Believable Serpents"
@willmcnally3388
2 жыл бұрын
I think you mean it jokingly but the relationship between Jayce is Viktor is so clearly platonic and brothers in arms (Cait and Vi, definitely not lol). But I am a huge sucker for Brother in Arms story lines and so the Viktor Jayce relationship is beautiful to me. And a fun detail I love with the Viktor flashback is the visual metaphor of how as he runs, his body cant keep up with technology... ugh so beautiful.
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
I wasn't joking.
@marcossantana4499
2 жыл бұрын
Girl, these reviews are insane!! Loved it
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
Thank youuuu!
@adowens0004
2 жыл бұрын
As for the trilogies comment, I think that was very important for the first three episodes. Those first three episodes feel very much like a 2 hour movie and I think it works best like that (instead of one episode a week). I do agree that the second set of three feels a bit different, since the story was not resolved in episode 6 (compared to the resolution we had in episode 3). This depends on how the last three episodes play out, but I am imaging this series will be best consumed as the first three episodes together and the last six episodes together.
@BnMProductions11
2 жыл бұрын
Im confused as to what part of Jayce and Viktors relationship ever suggest theyre intimately attracted to eachother. All 6 episodes they just seem like guys who share a common goal and are friends. Not once can I remember anything, a glance or a touch or anything to suggest theyre attracted to eachother.
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
"Wait... This isn't my bedroom."
@williambartsch1128
2 жыл бұрын
Being a long time League player and lore enthusiast I want to clarify that jayce and viktor are both very straight and I’m not a fan of your “boyfriends” narrative.
@mlroberson
2 жыл бұрын
I don't get where every is getting this romantic tension between Jayce and Victor from. To me they seem more like brothers, a parallel to Vander and Silco. Am I missing something?
@jackgraham3
2 жыл бұрын
No you’re not. It’s just a normal strong male relationship.
@xenexe3753
2 жыл бұрын
I will not be surprised if Mel is actually LeBlanc. Basically LeBlanc is a female mage who is a good manipulator and can get into the minds of people, she can also mimic their looks, she lives in Noxus and has her eyes everywhere
@ducris
2 жыл бұрын
im excited for 3rd part especially knowing some bits that might happen , knowing the characters in the game. and curious to see how they gonna make them in the show, and people reacting not knowing the game lore .
@Clebu
2 жыл бұрын
The big painting Mel made looks a lot like Noxus, another Empire/City in Runeterra, so its safe to assume she is Noxian herself, which would definitely explain why she's using and manipulating Jayce this way.
@michaelka3071
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly even tho i dont support shipping, jayce and viktor shipping fandom is really fun to watch at. It brings a bit of spice in channels that reviews arcane, especially this channel. Its very entertaining hahaha
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I'm happy you're entertained!! 🤗
@90DayBeyonce
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you caught on to this, but Viktor's mentor is the same guy that fed the cat to the rat in the first episode. He gets injured in the episode 3 blast and that's why his face is covered when we see him again in current time.
@Dynnen
2 жыл бұрын
I saw her as manipulating him until that moment where he told her about Viktor and confiding in her. She's still steering Jayce, but she definitely flinched; you can see her taken aback. Also I'm not seeing the Jayce is a bad boyfriend. They are two poor/lower class people out of their element and flying by the seat of their ingenious pants. Always trying to be dressed properly and doing what they can to stay afloat. And that look that Caitlyn and Vi share after she takes that potion. *chef's kiss*
@laogon09
2 жыл бұрын
The character that Viktor went to see in the cave is Singed, the same man who made the purple drug and worked with Silco in part One!
@TheGoldenGamerGirl1
2 жыл бұрын
I've watched this show a few times over trying to analyze the characters and what drives them. (I have not read much of the LoL lore, just some thoughts based on Arcane as a show itself) Sorry for the wall! For me, looking at Jayce as a character he's rather empathetic. He cares for Viktor to the point of even forcing his own mentor Heimerdinger to retire. Though, I feel as if he values the affirmations and validations of other people more than what *should* be his priority. In a way, his wanting to be seen and to be affirmed by those he sees as "important" makes him naive. He's easily manipulated in this aspect, making it easy for anyone, not just Mel, to get him to do what they want. I like Mel as a character (saving some thoughts due to Act 3 spoilers), she's really striking visually and seems to know how to run things due to her being a Medarda. I think she uses Jayce's naievity to her advantage to further progress her own goals in a political stance. She has strengths in power, but a weakness in ego. In the scene where Jayce confides in her, she seems somewhat shocked or even a bit uncomfortable as he was a means for her own progression. I'm really interested on your thoughts about her progression into Act 3. As for Viktor, he's working himself to death in the name of making the world a better place. While Jayce is becoming more part of politics than Hextech, Viktor is consumed with his work for the next breakthrough, stunting relationships with other people other than Jayce. I feel for Sky, who had followed him into Piltover and persued science as a means to get closer to him, to know him as a person. She seemed like a sweet character, though I doubt anything would come from the relationship with her and Viktor. For Jinx, I feel as if she's always had problems with her mental health from a young age. Seeing her parents dead, and having only Vander and Vi as her role models would damage any child's psyche. During her breakdown in Act 1, I feel as if it was more that "They left me" -- she latches onto people in fear that she'll fall behind or be abandoned. When all hell breaks loose though, she grips onto the only adult that approaches her in a desperate means of comfort. Also, when it comes to Viktor x Jayce, I do enjoy the ship. I feel like their chemistry is really great and I could see how a large number of people could perceive romantic or at least "crushy" undertones in their interactions. Unfortunately though, the LoL playerbase has a large number of cishet men who would much rather see "brothers" instead of "lovers". There is more representation now in media which is nice, but due to this franchise being more dominated by cishet men, I doubt that we will see much or any mlm relationships in Arcane. Plus, Riot has a large market in places like China that could easily take viewership away if there's openly gay content, so it's mostly tip-toed around and shown through coding or subtle interactions. -- But as for the ship, it's all in good fun. If you don't like it, great, you don't have to be an asshole to someone for liking something as harmless as this. There's worse ships out there that do more harm than finding comfort in two science men liking each other. (Yes, that even goes for the LoL lore of these two, dynamics and tropes are liked in different varieties. If you don't like it, block the tag). Anyway, that's just some of my thoughts on the characters as far as Act 2 goes. I really enjoyed Arcane as a show and I'm excitedly anticipating a season 2. I think there'll be more Jayce and Viktor story, which is very exciting. I like how not a single character is painted white or black, but instead is complex and morally/ethically grey.
@EverYuri
2 жыл бұрын
People are shiping a lot Cait and Jayce or Cait and Vi, but i like chaos, so i just created the team Vi x Jayce.
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@solisargregory5609
2 жыл бұрын
First of all. Maybe in your head Jayce and Viktor is a couple but not in the series. Jayce even sad that he's like a brother to him. Second of all IF they where a couple Jayce would be the best of the best. He kick Heimer out of the councile because he wants to save Viktor even he think of Heimer as his beloved mentor (he can't even see him in the eye when he make the last vote) And for some extra, when he was with Mel he don't know whats going on with Viktor but when he do he was at his bed side immediatly.! What the actual fuck more he needs to do??
@ingeniussoul8390
2 жыл бұрын
Noone talks about, but watch again carefully. In the final scene, watch carefully Jinx reaction when they kidnapped Caitlyn.... then come back read. Jinx is so confused. The one she seen as an enemy, because she is an enforcer... is kidnapped by the ones she's fighting... so she can't understand... who am I rooting for ? And that's all the Jinx character dilemma. who is... my enemy ? Is she understanding that... Caitlyn is not her enemy after all ? Or will she believe that everybody is her enemy ? In my opinion, this is part of all what the final scene is about. Not about fighting dudes on hoverboards... not only about finding her sister back... but about understanding who is her enemy... and I see nobody talking about this 😅
@demosteneswiggin5122
2 жыл бұрын
At first I was hesitant about the 3 arcs thing. But I think it was a smart move. If they released one episode per week it would be awful the wait, and 1st chapter probably wouldn't attract many people (remember, Arcane was designed to be friendly for people who don't know League or League's lore) The other way would be to released the entire season at once. But again, there are risk with it like feeling like a one time wonder and nothing else. With the 3 episodes in 3 arcs you are always waiting for more, excited about the next arc. Because every arc ended in a cliffhanger. Even if you know the lore, you are expecting to see what happens, how the characters we know and love ended being who they are now. And if you don't know the lore you are excited to see who they gonna become.
@whereaboutsunknown3822
2 жыл бұрын
I’m waitin for your review girl! Curious to hear from people who didn’t play the game
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
I haven't even watched it yet. So sorry. Been slammed, but its coming!
@tofu_golem
2 жыл бұрын
About the Firelights: Silco and the chem Lords have been making a lot of money getting people addicted to Shimmer. The Firelights are attacking the Shimmer shipments because they are hurting people all over the undercity. Mel is genuinely trying to be better than her family, but she is very manipulative. I think she put Jayce on the council as a power move against Heimerdinger. Everything is a power play with her.
@GsusCrust
2 жыл бұрын
I have rewatched the show and for real no matter how hard I try I do not see how Jayce and Viktor could have any romantic feelings for each other. Vi and Cait it's 100% I thing i'ts pretty clear but Jayce and Viktor are just two guys that become brothers, I have seen it with friends around me. Also jayce in the first 3 episodes is 24, so I think he is in his 30s now and he got a seat in the council because he has made such an important technological advance that his word matters alot now.
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
"wait... This isn't my bedroom."
@GsusCrust
2 жыл бұрын
@@HSPaisley They live in the Academy, he got caught opening a door that wasn't his. Like come on you are reaching.
@Merlin317
2 жыл бұрын
I think the scientist that Viktor meets down the stream, it's the assistant of silko, that's why the cute thing is more purple, because of monster juice
@BrunoDiaz02
2 жыл бұрын
I think Jayce is the perfect example of wanting to do the right but doing all wrong, he's gonna be alone by the end of this series! It hurts me so much watching him turning back on every good person around him just for diplomacy. And I can see how Viktor is gonna betray him 😭 can't wait for Act III
@Drudenfusz
2 жыл бұрын
I like the trilogies, waiting for a set of three episodes feels better than waiting for one episode per week. I think that is the best compromise between getting a whole season dropped at once and then everybody binging the whole thing and it being drawn out for weeks on end.
@SilverCrow0101
2 жыл бұрын
Jayce becomes a member of the council because he controls the Hexgates, which everyone in the council uses for shipping their products and stuff. If Jayce decides to stop the Hexgates, everyone will lose profits.
@romguaran6166
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if this count as an spoiler I’m not trying to do spoilers for nobody sorry ahead .**The guy that’s trying to keep the cute lizard alive is a champ in the game . (A really bad one !! ) his name is SINGED . And he is the reason why horrible stuff happens in another regions** . I don’t know if they are putting that in the show because is from a completely diferent place of games world
@Cewu
2 жыл бұрын
Victor was discovering HexTech while Jayce is discovering SexTech.
@HSPaisley
2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@invii187_
2 жыл бұрын
I think you'll enjoy act three. On another note - have you watched, or do you have any plans to watch, Castlevania on Netflix? It's another series based on a video game that I think you would enjoy.
@bryan2733
2 жыл бұрын
Im just glad Im not the only one who hates Mel and Jayce being a couple. 😆
@michaellindley2292
2 жыл бұрын
Jayce and Viktor are not gay what is this fixation with every time two guys share a screen together they have to be in a sexual relationship guys just can't be friends. Jayce and Cait have a more sibling relationship not romantic she was in her middle teens while he was 24 he doesn't see her in that way just like he doesn't see Viktor in that way.
@Brby1
2 жыл бұрын
You put the Jayce x Viktor as your head canon and ruined half of his story for yourself. I personally never saw anything other than business associates between the two, and didn't expect Jayce to say Viktor is like a brother. Which scenes specifically did you think had sexual attractions between them? The thing with Mel x Jayce is that she IS using him, she implies it herself in episode 4. She doesn't feel as strong connection to Jayce as he does to her. That's why you sense no chemistry, because it isn't mutual. Jayce is a naïve guy that wants to make the world a better place and gets all the responsibility thrown on him. Mel is a hardened politician and entrepreneur that knows how to play the game.
@petrusjnaude7279
2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see your review for Act 3! Considering your thoughts on certain characters and theories for what happens going forward, I would love to hear your thoughts on what happens. Also, I don't know if you realised this when you were watching and when you were writing this review, the guy Victor meets as a boy and returns to later in the episode, is Singed - the guy who develops Shimmer - the pink liquid drug that mutates people. Also, Caitlyn was taken along with the stabilised Hextech orb.
@sudonim7367
2 жыл бұрын
The Viktor doctor character is Silco's mad scientist, the guy who made Shimmer.
@zissoulander
2 жыл бұрын
Why are people shipping Victor and Jayce? There's no romantic chemistry at all. Bros united in a common interest in science! Dudes can be really close and just friends. The queerbaiting is all from Cait and Vi, especially when she asks Cait her preference and is later shown chatting it up with a femme.
@adowens0004
2 жыл бұрын
I think they are leaving specific ages (for most characters) vague on purpose. However, in Act 1 Jayce said he was 24 and Heimerdinger was 307. Those are the only two ages we have been told so far. Act 2 is likely 5-10 years later (I think it is closer to the latter than the former, but I can't find any evidence either way). As for the Firelights, they said while on the ship to light it up. They are there to destroy the shimmer and disrupt Silco. While we purposefully are not given a lot of information about them, they are set up in Act 2 to be a force from the underground working against Silco. There are theories on who the leader of that group is and several hints as to who it is, but most of those hints rely on knowledge of the game. My guess is this character will be revealed very early in Act 3 since Vi and Caitlyn were just captured, setting up an early scene in Act 3 with these characters where the leader of the Firelights true identity gets revealed.
@ladychrya9379
2 жыл бұрын
I see them more as ~2 hours movies being released each week
@joshhulett1053
2 жыл бұрын
They did set up Jayce being on the council before the vote happened. It wasn't exactly wierd that they all voted yes. Previously Jayce and the other woman on the council had him meet with everyone on the council basically saying that if you are on my side you will get a piece of the hextech business, and if you are not on my side you wont.
@malkavian2
2 жыл бұрын
I think the first trilogy made a lot more sense than the others
@mrdomomrdomo
2 жыл бұрын
Also I see why people feel the gay vibes with Vik and Jayce but honestly I could see them just being friends as well, I think we just dont see alot of gay couples and so we immediately put pressure to see them do more romantic cues than we normally would
@granddaddyotaku636
2 жыл бұрын
Going by character design and a realistic timeframe, we can sorta estimate the timejump and the ages of people. Jayce was 24 in Act 1 before the timejump. Its been somewhere between 7-10 years (estimated). So he's somewhere between 30 & 34. Jinx was roughly around 7-8 at the end of Act 1. So she's around 14-18 years old. and Vi is probably around 22-25 now ps, just a theory but i think the leader of the Firelights is actually Ekko, the little kid they were friends with back in Act 1. So I'm excited to see what happens in Act 3, i think they'll reveal it then. Hope im right :D
@122nvr
2 жыл бұрын
the scientist Viktor goes to ask for help is the same scientist who created the purple drug. He is an important character in the game.
@Ushionai
2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who doesn’t like Jayce!! Literally he rubs me the wrong way 💀
@anthonydominguez4744
2 жыл бұрын
The leader of the fire lights is most likely Ekko, his swagger is very much like his in game swagger in the game and he carries a stop watch which is a huge hint for his abilities in game .also super glad that the boys aren’t gay , wouldn’t really fit for how they end up later , cait and vi (although I wish they had more of a buddy cop relationship) makes more sense that they be gay .
@greenin5537
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Viktor is pushing things because he needs the technology for himself, he genuinely wants to improve Zaunites lives for those in need, the first thing he thinks of when explaining to Jayce the Hexcore after it took his blood was to improve lives, and the first think Jayce thought of was to cure Viktor. So Viktor, thinks of improving lives first, and Jayce thinks of curing Viktor first Also, I'm guessing the "boyfriend" thing is just a joke, and you don't actually think they are boyfriends
@angeldust311
2 жыл бұрын
The way that Vi was taken and how the smoke conceals the activity makes me believe that jinx will think that the whole ordeal was one of her hallucinations and Vi wasnt even there to begin with. When she first reunites with vi she asks Vi if she was real hinting on the fact shes probably hallucinated vi into existence before. There was a part where Jinx turns and tries to shoot through the smoke but when the smoke clears there was noone there and jinx looked visibly shocked almost like 'wtf someone was just there.... right?'. But yeah like i said i think Jinx will think that Vi wasnt real and that she hallucinated her which would inevitably bring her back to silco (maybe idk)
@ramonw3158
2 жыл бұрын
She got a cut on her leg in the fight tho so it might be a bait and switch, or she may just be that unstable to not noticed
@kiwilemonade1289
2 жыл бұрын
I think the firelights (or whatever the name was, lol) are a (loosely?) organized band of rogues that serve neither the undercity nor piltover. I believe they come from elsewhere in the world, via the hexgates. But I absolutely agree, even as a player of the game, I have no idea who this group is, why they exist, who anyone is within the group, their goals, anything. It would've been nice to get just a bit of that because I do think they are kinda important, considering all they done particularly in the final episode of this act.
@israelrobles681
2 жыл бұрын
I love your train of tought, is refreshing, interesting and educative, Thank you very much for this!
@kanomisogi6660
2 жыл бұрын
This is strictly my opinion, but I believe she wanted Jayce on the council since he is just a scientist. He invented hextech, but as a scientist he has no control over how it's used or regulated. And like Mederna said later, all of the council would gladly take his hextech to profit given the opportunity. So by bringing him on the council, he now has control over it.
@stacy5576
2 жыл бұрын
"They have no chemistry." My thoughts exactly! The vibe that I got was that they're just using each other for their own agendas.
@tinyrogue1320
2 жыл бұрын
"Mel Madonna - She's beautiful. But I hate her." i feel u, girl lmao
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