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@bobbyhunt3009
6 ай бұрын
@@nomnomyourmomyou must be in Jeff's family. You blast everyone that calls out Jeff if he's wrong. No matter what you say, Jeff has been wrong before but he is not wrong much. He doesnt need you being a troll and taking up for him and bashing anyone who doesn't agree with him on everything.
@_Sam62
6 ай бұрын
@@nomnomyourmom Have you ever been told that you are an annoying, know-it-all little guy?
@bobbyhunt3009
6 ай бұрын
@@nomnomyourmom You are a jerk!!!!!! You make me laugh It's sad that there are people like you in the world,
@bobbyhunt3009
6 ай бұрын
@@nomnomyourmom Now you're making up stuff. I Have always known the long head crosses shoulder. Id put you to shame with my knowledge of the body. You're Just a jerk trying to make me look bad. Dont reply to any of my comments, you are a waste of my time and anybody's time.
@Littlebpaulmuller-Owner
6 ай бұрын
1. The exercise at 0:13 is not chinup, but a more difficult version, check it again. 2. That's not the reason at 0:18, that's actually an entire different video titled "STOP, You're Training Your Biceps Wrong!" 3. The problem with this video is thinking Jeff claimed Chinup or Pulldown trains the Elbow Flexion and Shoulder Flexion functions of the Biceps, when in fact Jeff was talking about training the Elbow Flexion function while having Biceps in the shortened position (Flexed Shoulder). He literally explained in the video: "Why? Because I could apply good tension in that shortened position, with the arms up elevated into shoulder flexion and having that flexed elbow" 4. At 9:45, it's actually triarticulate, crossing three joints not two: shoulder joint and two elbow joints 5. At 10:28 and 11:09, you don't have dynamic supination but you CAN have static supination (Overcoming Isometric) which can increase Biceps' activation easily. That's why you complement DB Curls (dynamic) with Barbell Curls (static)
@theguy4615
6 ай бұрын
Interesting. I stopped weights and did only pullups for biceps for two months and my biceps got noticeably bigger.
@CS-ww3bs
6 ай бұрын
Well your triceps are a big part of your arm
@alnilam8048
5 ай бұрын
@@CS-ww3bsTroll😂
@jodezod
5 ай бұрын
How many sets do you do? Or do you do til failure?
@theguy4615
5 ай бұрын
@@jodezod usually not to failure. It varies, sometimes a few sets every day, sometimes reverse ladders, like 12,10,8,6,4 two or three days a week. Sometimes use a band so I can do more. I do chin ups, inverse rows, diamond pushups, decline push ups, and lunges. Look and feel better than using weights.
@jodezod
5 ай бұрын
@@theguy4615 respect bro
@j.langer5949
3 ай бұрын
You have two choices: trust some youtuber, or try and verify. I personally bulked up my biceps and got stronger with this exercise.
@jamestan4165
6 ай бұрын
I've been doing undergrip pulldowns for about 6 weeks now and my bi's have grown more than they ever have outside of my first year of training. My wife actually commented last week and she rarely notices things like that. Maybe it's my body structure but these work really well for me.
@danmcgilldm
5 ай бұрын
He didn't say they won't make you grow. He was stating that the target areas said to be working by athlete x and Metzer were wrong based off the mechanics of the lift. To his point, if you want to work the upper part of the bicep by the shoulder, a chin up is not going to do this. It does not mean your biceps don't get stimulus to grow from chin ups, or pull ups , or rows ect. I actually never even heard of using a lift for upper bicep before. Not sure how much impact on growth this can actually have on upper bicep. Almost seems like more of a front Delt exercise. Interesting....
@trapps75
5 ай бұрын
They grew more but the shape stayed the same because can't change shape of muscles physically impossible
@Greetthemenace9
5 ай бұрын
Bro a gymnast will do chinups per sey as a bicep . But I can guarantee the coach will say otherwise. The bicep is a stabilizer in chinups. Same thing as how a boxer can build his biceps throwing punches . Hope that helps too .
@danmcgilldm
5 ай бұрын
@@Greetthemenace9Chin ups are more than a bicep stabilizing exercise. Your biceps get cooked doing a chin up.
@denisdinkov8926
5 ай бұрын
Regional hypertrophy and the mechanical stimulus in its sense for each muscle separately is an interesting topic. We'd love for you to do such a series😊
@orexgabriel2448
6 ай бұрын
This makes sense. Recently I was super-setting dumbbell shoulder press with arm blaster curls and felt strong bicep activation during the shoulder press. I was wandering why. For your future videos, could you do some on super-setting - it seems my selection of supersetting opposing muscle groups was not quite right. Also, please provide options for minimalist equipment - personally I train at home with dumbbell, barbell, bench and half-rack but do not have access to cables.
@richardgolden4315
16 күн бұрын
okay, this guy knows what he is talking about, i love this
@rikrishshrestha5421
6 ай бұрын
Nice correction. I'd like to request to plz continue the regional hypertrophy series. Those were absolutely fantastic & not really explained by others properly.
@jonireinikainen8850
6 ай бұрын
Interesting indeed. There is a lot of truth here, but the supination grip also affects the activation of the biceps brachii muscle. It is very important to consider what kind of grip to take when making a movement.
@24hrs365
Ай бұрын
I ruptured both bicep tendons on the long head at different times, so now the tendons are attached to the upper humerus. My question is, to work the upper part of the biceps, is it pointless raising the arms into shoulder flexion as the tendon doesn't cross the shoulder joint.
@papayaman78
6 ай бұрын
My biceps disagree, especially when doing partial range of motion during the pullup. If not go to prison youll learn how fast you can activate the bicep with a pullup
@argospanoptes4826
6 ай бұрын
I thank you doc. You provide to me more explainations about to involve the shoulder
@ronniefarris8561
Ай бұрын
The problem is your shoulders are forward. Your shoulder blades bring the weight back.
@swenic
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for calling them out. Having seen a few content creator flame-wars by now I hope we can raise the standard.
@Abc19932
6 ай бұрын
Wow. I had heard that the underhand pull-down was one of the best biceps exercises from multiple people… always saying that it worked the biceps from both ends. The way you explain it makes it seem so obvious!! I wonder how that got started…
@DrGains
6 ай бұрын
It is pretty obvious once you understand the anatomy! I think it was that Mike Mentzer guy who started it... but I'm not positive. I had just heard it from so many people that I had to address it.
@ajithsidhu7183
6 ай бұрын
@@DrGainshow dan we build tricpes and shoulders with barbells not cables
@johndonson1603
6 ай бұрын
@@DrGains “That Mike Mentzer guy “? Really . Wash your mouth out .
@ngrey5092
6 ай бұрын
You can litteraly chose if you are pulling with biceps or with back... either you bend your elbows as main move or you pull your elbows down as main move.
@PrabhsimranSingh15
6 ай бұрын
You are right. I try these new exercise every now and then and found that pulldowns are a waste of time. They neither hit biceps nor the lats. Bottom line is: Biceps will grow only when they are fully engaged during a contraction and eccentric release. So whether it is a closed grip bar pulldowns or supinated palms chin ups, if biceps are not engaged, the whole moment is a waste.
@watchdog6619
3 ай бұрын
Uhm, so which what muscles you are pulling the bar down than😅
@PrabhsimranSingh15
3 ай бұрын
@@watchdog6619 I can very well engage my biceps during an arm workout. The actual movement that would target the biceps in a pulldown is completely different than what has been preached by Mentzer. If you are a Mentzer fan, I mean no disrespect to his theory. It's just that I tried his idea and it did not work with my muscle framework. Every person responds differently to a single exercise. And I believe pulldowns did not give me the hypertrophy or the improvement in muscular tone that I was looking for.
@matusjurcik6974
2 ай бұрын
1:30 U are wrong you are in a pronated possition there so u will work your biceps.
@AdudesRebirth
5 ай бұрын
Where is your perfect workout series?!
@aaronthompson192
6 ай бұрын
Seems like most of the comment section didn't watch the whole video.
@aayushmaaantripathi
Ай бұрын
yeah true
@bladezshields4363
4 ай бұрын
They send me to a physical therapist and not a doctor for muscle injuries.
@Simon-d8n
2 ай бұрын
I stoped doin. Pull down ones now. Yes. I will try. Dumbbell ones. Mike did. Talk about doin these with dumbbells. But to be honest. I was sure if he ever did them much if ever. I will try these at gym.
@azurehydra
6 ай бұрын
Doctor doctor! I present to the ER a suffering from a severe lack of gains! You have to help me doc. 😊
@BXBZ88
6 ай бұрын
The perfect 'bicep' exercise would be using gymnastic rings and the orientation of the torso. It would have the arms straight and behind the torso. Then your body would have to go head down and rotate to move your arms towards the front of the torso with tension on the biceps. Body rotation to the point your biceps are next to your face, then a curl motion starts with it ending behind your head/touching traps. Possible? Only a gymnast could maybe move the body along that path but highly un-practicable.
@RalphSmorra
6 ай бұрын
Have there been actual studies comparing pullups vs curls and their results? Mentzer talked about the biceps development of gymnasts who at least at that time, according to him, weren't intentionally bodybuilding, nor doing curls, just doing pullups, yet had biceps as developed as amateur bodybuilders. ISTM, it may be that even though curls Should develop the biceps better, it's a lot harder to curl one's own weight, than it is to do a pullup with one's weight, so it may be easier to put the biceps under a high load and see gains with them, even though they don't target the biceps as well, and if the pullups were done on a pull down machine with the same lower (than body) weight as the curls, would result in less gains than the curls.
@bonjoulden4347
6 ай бұрын
So many people don’t realize what regional hypertrophy is. when I realized this it was a game changer for me.
@leoh1191
3 ай бұрын
Dear Dr. Please do a video on the side delt
@HellNo-o2m
6 ай бұрын
Bro I'm so excited to use those supplements😮
@OzRodsHeavyHaulers
6 ай бұрын
I came here to learn about close grip chin up can you do a video only about that
@martinclarke2903
6 ай бұрын
If you want big “anything” do what Dr Mike does.
@bigmike4162
5 ай бұрын
I am a huge AtheanX/Jeff Cavalier adherent, but i noticed the exact same thing when i watched the video. The very knowledge i have gotten from Jeff is how i knew what he was saying didn't sound right. To those who add chinups and see big gains--anything new you do will give big gains, and no one, including Dr. Gains is saying that there is anything wrong with chinups in and of themselves. He is not saying not to do them, just that pulling the wrong way at the top so you are not getting the extra resistance as claimed. P.S. i am also becoming quite a Dr. Gains fan!! Physiology doesn't lie.
@bryanutility9609
6 ай бұрын
Animations are off the chart today! ⚡️⚡️
@Ricquisimo
6 ай бұрын
Of course it works your biceps.
@Saintecathrine
22 күн бұрын
Dr Gains take a good look at Mike Menzter and Athlean X physics and compare them to your own😂 You will understand why they are on a completely different level than you, it’s because they actually knows what’s working, try to learn something from them and maybe you will start to build some muscles in the future
@grottphd9090
4 күн бұрын
Learn obviously wrong anatomy from them? 😂😂
@Eri587
6 ай бұрын
While i agree with the points you make about athlean x and mentzer being wrong, saying that an overhead press works the biceps, atleast to some degree because the shoulder goes into flexion? I mean based on what you are saying it probably does but that sounds kinda wrong to me so i have to ask.
@Mark-ef2ly
6 ай бұрын
I agree. The biceps doesn't contract or do any work when you overhead press.
@pranav9082
6 ай бұрын
You have 2-3 videos on what is best bicep excercise, get a grip on yourself, btw in doing what mike is doing and my biceps along wiith other gymnist biceps doing chin ups are better than yours..., 😺.
@singh853_5
Ай бұрын
I think u have it all backwards… Mike Mentzer is right because you’re explaining it with dumbbells which changes the path of resistance. Close grip palms up PULL DOWNS hardly put any tension on the shoulder. Which makes you wrong here. What you demonstrated saying is, “this is technically what you do with DUMBBELLS.” That’s a totally different workout. What you’re doing is a bicep curl into a shoulder press with palms facing inwards. Not the same as a cable lat pulldown with palms up for biceps. Hope this helps all you people confused by this guy.
@grottphd9090
4 күн бұрын
This is one of the stupidest comments I've ever read
@singh853_5
4 күн бұрын
@@grottphd9090 you need to go back to school then since you have issues understanding. You sound like a newb in the fitness world.
@singh853_5
4 күн бұрын
@@grottphd9090 u must be a newb in the gym. Go back to learning about gravity and resistance.
@davidk6269
6 ай бұрын
They absolutely work the biceps. How do I know that? My biceps are sore and have a major pump after my chin-ups and pull-ups.
@jaybee2402
6 ай бұрын
Glad you agree with him. 👍🏿
@nickfanzo
6 ай бұрын
You said at both ends of the biceps, not that they don’t work biceps.
@Angry_Lion
6 ай бұрын
Same here.
@Txtal
6 ай бұрын
Work but how much? Not enough for anyone past begginer stage I can bang out same reps the days after 8-10 sets of curls , my amrap for ring chin ups is just poor +25kg x 5 [85kg bw] Yea i get some pump but the stimulus you get from 3 sets of that is like what ? 1 set of curls , definitely not enough As an addition to get more stimulus for biceps it is fine , even doing all pulling work with supinated grip is still not enough , just a bonus , same as CGBP for triceps [Can not answer comment bellow for some reason , tried twice] Gymnast do not get their biceps only from pull ups, but also all the straight arm work they do , all the skill str.a. work they do , rto push ups , dips , planche , maltese push ups. Extreme amount of time biceps is in stretched position. That is why , not just pulling work , do not expect gymnast biceps with only pull work , most of them or probably all that you think of can do pelican curl , maltese push ups. They get extreme stimuli from all the work they do.
@davidk6269
6 ай бұрын
@@Txtal I respectfully disagree. I think that the main reason that gymnasts have huge biceps is because of all the pull-up/chin-up type of movements that they perform. Many (most?) generally don't do curls.
@21111009198573
6 ай бұрын
I see what you are saying but man some of the best bicep pumps I’ve gotten are from doing chin ups
@_Sam62
6 ай бұрын
😂 Go help your wife lift heavy shopping bags. Great pump in your forearms, but they don't really grow. A pump does not equal growth, kind friend…😉
@_Sam62
6 ай бұрын
@@nomnomyourmom😂
@alnilam8048
5 ай бұрын
@@_Sam62Amateur dont comment. You still have a long journey to know 🤡
@thechartmaverick
3 ай бұрын
You weren’t listening either smh. You people smh.
@LightsTeamEuphoria
Ай бұрын
Tbh I think that’s more a testament to how hard pullups are compared to what others do on curls generally. With curls or pulldowns unless you really push it you are likely going to do less work than you would doing some sets of pullups. Lugging your full bodyweight around for even a few sets is bound to hit your biceps good. I’d still say weights is ideal for growth if you put in the effort instead of doing just a couple sets of 8-12 with moderate weight.
@revanmoto6261
6 ай бұрын
Gymnasts have testified to pull-ups being the reason why their biceps are so big when done correctly.
@aaronthompson192
6 ай бұрын
Gymnasts also do a lot of reverse grip planks/planches, reverse pushups, ring holds, reverse bridges, etc, all of which work biceps with the same physics as the upper movement he's describing. He also doesn't say you can't get big biceps by doing just chinups or some other exercise - he's saying this is a more efficient movement that hits both insertion points.
@trapps75
5 ай бұрын
Gymnasts that have big biceps is because of the genetics there born with because plenty of them don't have big biceps and some don't really have good physiques
@Cxop0201
5 ай бұрын
@@trapps75 most of them i mean most like huge percentage of gymnasts have big or atleast well shaped that's not all genetics
@trapps75
5 ай бұрын
@@Cxop0201 your shape is determined at birth nothing is changing that
@Cxop0201
5 ай бұрын
@@trapps75 lol 😂 tell that to most of the gymnast who born skinny and way better and well shaped than average roided bodybuilder 🤡, most gymnasts have way better body than bulkyass bodybuilders , stop coping and stop blaming everything on genetics 🧬 when you know bare minimum about it
@AxeManGaming
6 ай бұрын
The close-grip palms-up pulldown does put pressure on both ends of the biceps at the deepest point of the motion. This is why Mike Mentzer emphasized static holds as such a crucial part of training. This, and the chin up, are the most effective ways to do this. Also your bicep curl with shoulder flexion that you demonstrated doesn't work the bicep from both ends, it works the biceps and the front delt. Mentzer's pulldown works the biceps, forearms, and almost the entire back.
@shimonpietersen9520
15 күн бұрын
Yep, the idea that perhaps neither Mentzer nor AX explained more specifically is that, in a chin up / pulldown, when the shoulder is flexed, the biceps are shortened from the top and lengthened from the bottom (at the elbow) and vice versa when the elbows are flexed, so that the biceps are never fully stretched or contacted, allowing the biceps to produce more force (more fibers contracting at the same time). Arthur Jones once mentioned a curl or chin up done behind the head to fully contract the biceps from both joints. I think most people would find that the regular chin up produces a better pump.
@matusjurcik6974
2 ай бұрын
3:00 But you dont have bar attached to your elbows Lol.
@therehastobesomethingmoore
6 ай бұрын
Mike Mentzer….the guy who got a perfect score in Mr. Universe, is wrong…oh, ok. 😂
@Littlebpaulmuller-Owner
6 ай бұрын
1. The exercise at 0:13 is not chinup, but a more difficult version, check it again. 2. That's not the reason at 0:18, that's actually an entire different video titled "STOP, You're Training Your Biceps Wrong!" 3. The problem with this video is thinking Jeff claimed Chinup or Pulldown trains the Elbow Flexion and Shoulder Flexion functions of the Biceps, when in fact Jeff was talking about training the Elbow Flexion function while having Biceps in the shortened position (Flexed Shoulder). He literally explained in the video: "Why? Because I could apply good tension in that shortened position, with the arms up elevated into shoulder flexion and having that flexed elbow" 4. At 9:45, it's actually triarticulate, crossing three joints not two: shoulder joint and two elbow joints 5. At 10:28 and 11:09, you don't have dynamic supination but you CAN have static supination (Overcoming Isometric) which can increase Biceps' activation easily. That's why you complement DB Curls (dynamic) with Barbell Curls (static)
@AbdulGhani-vm6oq
6 ай бұрын
Yes 💯👍🏼 I call BS on this Dr Gains video. Never take fitness advice from a guy that looks like he barely works out (Dr Gains).
@trolloso75
6 ай бұрын
lol you destroyed Dr Gains video... good job
@92rednotch
6 ай бұрын
This is why people get so confused. there is always info out there contradicting other info we learned. Its frustrating.
@RSG71
6 ай бұрын
Do pull downs effectively work the biceps?
@crazilyon
6 ай бұрын
@@RSG71 Gymnasts arms certainly suggest they do.
@brandonenigma8393
9 күн бұрын
A lot of people are making an easy mistake here. He’s not saying that a pulldown won’t increase bicep size. He just saying it’s not optimal. Then he’s giving suggestions to make the movements optimal.
@Enthalpy248
6 ай бұрын
Reverse pulldown has been a top two mass builder for my defined 16.25" arms. I will still use it but now know it does not work full range of both heads as I believed. Thanks - I know to modify my workout now and maybe that will get me past the plateau I've been stuck at for 6 weeks. I will try the bicep move you developed.
@DrGains
6 ай бұрын
Glad to help!
@LovelyBike-nt1nx
6 ай бұрын
I'd stop listening to this guy
@b.b.5048
24 күн бұрын
That's all great, but you failed to explain what we're all thinking: then why are my biceps fatigued after doing chin ups or pull ups? Are you saying it doesn't work the bicep at all, or just not the part of the bicep that connects to the shoulder?
@grottphd9090
4 күн бұрын
It's loaded elbow flexion. Obviously it works the biceps
@bo49685
6 ай бұрын
Athlean-X is a GREAT channel if you want to listen to BS crap just for views. He has been proven TIME AND TIME again to just be a JOKE!!!
@leecox5218
6 ай бұрын
that may be true, but this guy is wrong as well.
@luizfigobr
6 ай бұрын
Chin ups may not be the best biceps exercises, but yes, they do work biceps. Saying it doesn't is complete ignorance. Delete this idiocracy.
@matusjurcik6974
2 ай бұрын
5:00 pathethic u work with kids and this is clearly not your expertise. How can you even say this as a reason for listening to you.
@bilalgilani9513
6 ай бұрын
Dude how dare you say Mike mentzer was wrong he was absolute legand better body than Arnold. Unsubscribe !
@stevemann1299
3 ай бұрын
What nonsense is this Mentzer was right. Palms up pulldowns is a killer biceps exercise. They added an inch to my arms.
@Blazemon9999
6 ай бұрын
Wow thanks doc. I actually implemented that AthleanX video into my training and was wondering why it didn't feel like it was hitting my biceps all that much. Thought I was doing something wrong and ended up dropping the underhanded pulldown from my program. Glad to know it wasn't my fault. Waiting on some ironmaster dumbbells so I can start doing your training with the offset weights
@DrGains
6 ай бұрын
💪
@BillyJ10
6 ай бұрын
Doc, the results I've gotten from your single arm twisting cable curls, forearm, & brachioradialis have been excellent. Thanks again
@Enthalpy248
6 ай бұрын
Are your results strength or size - thanks
@BillyJ10
6 ай бұрын
@@Enthalpy248 Size
@NaturalxGains
6 ай бұрын
That is something I want to know as well.
@DrGains
6 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@bathrobeman66
6 ай бұрын
Dude I call them telephone curls from that video it's amazing exercise
@dennisoven9259
6 ай бұрын
All of you are wrong. Or right. Some will grow arms, others wont. Depends on individual dominancy of body parts. There is no one size fits all. But bashing is universal idiocy.
@JeffMartinez648
6 ай бұрын
It seems that all of your videos I learn something I like about either you or your content and something I don’t. Content in this video is great, makes a lot of sense, what I don’t like is the Mayo Clinic because they taken a stronger stance for vaccines rather than natural immunity, especially since the world attack by the Chinese virus from Wuhan. I am 100% for natural immunity & believe the body can and will produce a stronger immunity against infection & diseases when fed properly and using natural remedies. Doctors are so quick to prescribe medication now but the body is not deficient on medications it’s deficient in healthy foods, vitamins, & minerals so hence doctors are no longer the arbiters of health now, they only control diseases, & many times it’s too late. The food pyramid came from the USDA, the department of agriculture, not from a science based study but because the US at that time in the 70’s was exporting food around the world and needed to sell food, smh. So thanks for the content, definitely curios about the collagen you offered & the 40+ supplement you spoke about. Thank you
@toasterpastries5811
2 ай бұрын
*This is simply not true. The human body is designed to perform compound exercises first and foremost. The bicep is more than just in the upper arms. It connects to the back and forearm. Look at the biceps of athletes and prison inmates who do tons of chinups. They're fricken huge while natty*
@fenrirgg
6 ай бұрын
How do gymnasts get big biceps with just pull ups?
@adamk4733
6 ай бұрын
Genetics
@_Sam62
6 ай бұрын
If you know a little bit about biomechanics then you should wonder whether gymnasts (and by no means all) have biceps like that because of or despite the chin-up 😉
@pacmanfl
6 ай бұрын
Rings are a different animal. There’s almost always some form of internal or external rotation of the wrists when doing a pulling exercise. That’s why they’re easier on the joints.
@ramenface_________________
6 ай бұрын
P.e.d.
@DrGains
6 ай бұрын
There are many reasons why they have huge biceps... but perhaps the biggest is the loaded straight-arm bicep work they do, like the Maltese on the rings, which load the biceps from both ends. That absolutely blows your biceps up. I'm gonna do a video on straight-arm biceps work in the near future. But one principle is the same. Load the biceps on both ends.
@alnilam8048
5 ай бұрын
Disliked and reported for misinformation.
@shreyam1008
6 ай бұрын
There is recent rise of people with medical expertise slowly entering into fitness infuncer which will elevate so many of these small mistakes. Dr milo wolf, good old ressinance peridiozation, YOU and others. Dr Andy Galpins through hubberman, principles have become popular. Next batch of fitness people will be a elite class for sure.
@DrGains
6 ай бұрын
👊
@TheosYeshua
6 ай бұрын
Have to disagree with this one, it is just me and my OWN experience. I'm 45 years old, and my arms were stagnated. But Switching to heavy pulldown, sometimes with a spotter and weighted pull-ups was a success 💪🏾. Hey, maybe my body is different from many others. However, i definitely subscribing to this channel. Very good info.
@markoseverdija3570
2 күн бұрын
Jeff Cavaliere is more developed than you are and you say his workout is not efficient??
@beentheredonethat5908
5 күн бұрын
They are right and wrong, well athlen x is a mutt. The part that is rught is cable pulls and pullups shock your arms if you don't do them, it can shock the upper part of the biceps and is great for an injured person. For a healthy strong person, weighted curls of different variations are the best, with some cable work added here and there.
@bobbyhunt3009
6 ай бұрын
Mike was Special, Very Smart but here he was wrong here and Jeff at Athlean X is wrong too. Jeff is wrong sometimes but we let it go because Jeff is good for the Weightlifting and Fitness community and he teaches a lot to many people so we give him a pass when he is wrong. Dr. Gains corrects him and explains how he is wrong but Jeff will not appreciate being questioned. No one is right all the time, the question is how you handle being corrected especially if you are wrong.
@Littlebpaulmuller-Owner
6 ай бұрын
This is your comment from Dr Gain's video (5 Key Lat Training Secrets! EVERYTHING You DIDN’T KNOW About Working the Latissimus Dorsi): "Not to be off topic but I really wish these so called important fitness influencers and gym coaches would learn the truth from you that raising your arms and elbows over the head does not bias the long head of the tricep. Almost all of them thinks that it does. Why will they not listen to Doctors and Science. How can these other influencers keep preaching that over head extensions bias the long head... " Good job being exposed as a liar.
@stevewhitley5772
6 ай бұрын
Tell that theory to a gymnast
@FPPS.45
8 күн бұрын
Ok pretty simple Athlean and Mentzer have way bigger Biceps than this guy😂
@oscarl.3563
6 ай бұрын
10:57 Error, error, system malfunction. Text says _short_ head!
@DrGains
6 ай бұрын
Darn. Haha nice catch. With the hundreds of edits that go into these, there's always at least one typo or similar error I make!
@MoonAuto743
8 күн бұрын
I see you mean his explanation is wrong. But I tried the exercise after that video, and it does hit the biceps hard, I also make sure my fist reaches my front shoulder.
@GWGMJ
5 ай бұрын
Interesting, i stopped all routines and did only KFC bucket lift, i lost all my gains but I'm happy.
@Slazbob
5 ай бұрын
It does work the upper biceps tho. When you are arms extended and start the downward movement you flex that upper biceps along with the back muscles. It’s just a really good exercise to throw in the routine. You can also say that doing a bicep curl then raising your arm straight up like this guy demonstrated will just work your front delt. Just go by feel and what the top guys in body building do. Science seems to be the KZitem algorithm for training anymore…and they just make content about other people’s work…who are also not putting in the “work.”
@Kammler262
Ай бұрын
I go to the Gym and on back and Biceps day I do only Inverted Rows supinated, Chin ups and Parallel grip Pull ups. My Biceps are monsters now even with 4 sets of 5 reps only Chin ups. Regarding your Biceps DrGains purely genetics. Bullshit video overall.
@truongsinh9955
14 күн бұрын
Dr Gains? More like Dr who claims BS to get internet clout. Classic.
@theunderdog3348
Ай бұрын
W R O N G: Mentzer: first bodybuilder to have a perfect score at the Olympia, & I trust Jeff more than Dr. Gains. Chin ups is a bicep exercise. Ask a gymnast.
@asafraz646
Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the video. How you explain the size of the biceps for gymnastic competitors?What do you think about biceps curl (small bar) with upper pulley to behind the head curl? Thank🙏🙏
@NaturalxGains
6 ай бұрын
Very interesting video Doc! So far you are just one of two YT channels that have discussed regional training on muscles. I always had the feeling this was true. I hope that you make more indepth videos regarding this subject. Can you also make a video on the two different fast twitch and slow twitch fibres that may be activated during different training methods?
@DrGains
6 ай бұрын
Absolutely! I actually briefly discussed fiber type differences and how they affect regional hypertrophy in my last video on regional quad training (here's the link: kzitem.info/news/bejne/moeG3ZOgs5VonKg )... and I have a lot more about it on my membership site, but I'll definitely be publishing more on it here as well! 👊 Regional activation has an enormous influence on training, but you're right - very few people are even aware of it. Most even believe it's not possible.
@asprinklingofclouds
6 ай бұрын
The problem here is that you are drawing conclusions from the biomechanics of the movement, and ignoring the fact that it is far easier to overload the biceps with the pulldown (or chin up) than with the bicep curl, which results in greater hypertrophy of the biceps from the compound lift. Not only is this from experience, but also backed by science: Gentil P, Soares S, Bottaro M. Single vs. Multi-Joint Resistance Exercises: Effects on Muscle Strength and Hypertrophy.
@0hopscotch0
5 ай бұрын
Yeah millions of Gymnast are wrong too
@meonyoutubenow
5 ай бұрын
Ring gymnasts - to whom you are refering - train the musculus bicepti brachialis during a stretch under tension which is exactly what this guy is saying in this video.
@markovasil1608
6 ай бұрын
I’ve gained 15kg strength in my bicep curl 1RM just by Deadlifting and Barbell rows after 1.5 years strength training. (Didn’t train bicep curl due to Tendonosis) I’m natural at 41yo. This information is BS! And I’ll never waste my time doing bicep curls ever again
@zupinu2000
2 ай бұрын
Then how come chin ups cooks my biceps?
@johndonson1603
6 ай бұрын
Just do curls , all forms , they’ve been working for decades .
@ivanriverajr5012
5 ай бұрын
Yet mikke mentzer looked amazing. So how is he wrong? Everyone has a different genetic makeup. What ever works for you is your body. I can't get why all these people wanna debunk others unless there super wrong.
@KeithRobTV
26 күн бұрын
This is the most entertaining education exercise video I have ever seen on the internet LOL you went in on X 😂😂😂
@Brad-t7e
5 ай бұрын
This is just a suggestion since you don't want to be bigger. To prove your scientific approach is superior and you claim these techniques will produce quick results. Put yourself through a three month muscle mass program using your techniques. Of course take a before and after photo to show results. Then you can shrink back down to where you want to maintain .
@brandoncarter9000
6 ай бұрын
A video on upper back would be nice
@DrGains
6 ай бұрын
Noted!
@clausmatthau6517
5 ай бұрын
U are absolutely wrong, I tried Everything but only Pulldowns Let my Bizeps grow!!
@davlhar05
5 ай бұрын
You wasted an entire video explaining how to do an exercise incorrectly just to throw shade on your competition. If you spend about 15 minutes alone with a pullup bar I'm sure you will be able to figure out the proper way to engage your biceps. Sometimes too much education can make you arrogant rather than smart.
@JamesPetroff
4 ай бұрын
Chins work your back most. Ask Alpha Destiny who can chin with plates. His biceps stayed weak.
@trapps75
5 ай бұрын
U can't change shape of any muscles physically impossible supination and all that stuff not changing anything I can't separate inner head outer head everything works together
@thepistolguy859
Ай бұрын
The bar pulldown wors biceps as well probably not as much as a traditional curl
@Mr.E-gi5rq
5 ай бұрын
Mentzervsaid that its how you do it . Which is correct . Weve all got arms , this is verifiable sht . Dragging sht out of context does not change biomechanics.
@peterdurnford5097
6 ай бұрын
If your not getting a bicep workout from this your doing it wrong...this is not a us or AthleanX problem it is a you problem.
@KCBRYAN_1525
2 ай бұрын
Yeah,well it really looks like you know how to build big biceps.not!!!
@ervjussoli
6 ай бұрын
This isnt true. I did a 10yr prison bit ,and all i did were dips and underhanded pull-ups, which i did every M/W/F 10x10 superset fashion. My arms grew to 20" from 15" and I never did any curling exercises ever.
@CoachMac340
2 ай бұрын
They do work. I got far more muscle growth after adding these exercises to my routine.
@Slazbob
5 ай бұрын
Great exercise for entire biceps. Always go by what the training shows, not science haha.
@kane6529
6 ай бұрын
One things for sure is i can do a fuck ton of weight with the close grip pull down! Def not the end all be all of bicep training, uncle Mike was prob smoking meth but athlean X gets no free pass
@krohnoz
6 ай бұрын
Chin ups are great 4 biceps!!! Especially if you have elbow pain at curls like me!
@fresnodarwindog
6 ай бұрын
I injured my biceps by doing chin ups. Pretty sure chin ups works your biceps…..
@alnilam8048
5 ай бұрын
Tell me you know nothing without telling me you know nothing😂. BS channel award👍🏻
@mozawahreh8778
6 ай бұрын
does close girp push ups hits upper chest?and can u do a video for upper chest :\
@oscarl.3563
6 ай бұрын
If you hold your arms further in front of you, preferably in a declined position(feet up) a regular push up should do the trick. I could be wrong though. Most do seated, inclined pressed - you just gotta find the right angle on the incline. Even a plate press or pressing your hands together, while held relatively high, maybe upper-chest to neck height or even higher, and that too should do the trick.
@jcb4826
5 ай бұрын
Decline Pushups less than 45° and wherever you feel it the best.
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