If the Chinese would just direct their efforts towards the betterment of their own fortunes, they wouldn't have to steal others.
@OldSkoolF
4 жыл бұрын
This guy knows what he's doing.... I use the ring test also.
@WrvrUgoThrUR
5 жыл бұрын
This must be those $3 eagles on Amazon.
@montydaniels1054
4 жыл бұрын
Hey, I had to take some coins in because I had my doubts. eBay is not the place to buy silver from, IMO (unless you know who you're dealing with.) eBay can't handle the traffic anyways, why risk it.
@countryroadscoinrollhuntin1697
5 жыл бұрын
Great video dude! Thanks for the heads up. I am just starting my silver stacking and this is good info. Keep up the great work!
@davidlanham99
4 жыл бұрын
Bottom line: only buy plain old, newer date, unc silver eagles and gold eagles from someone WELL KNOWN, like Blanchard, and keep your receipts! In times of chaos, you don't want people wondering what kind of coin it is or what it's supposed to look like. The average person who doesn't care anything about coins is going to be hearing about all the counterfeits and they won't trust your oddball collection of "stackables" or cute coins. Also, if you go to sell your coins back to Blanchard, for example, the first thing they're going to ask is "where did you buy it" and you can say "I bought it from you!".
@numismaticmaster8612
4 жыл бұрын
This one, I think, might actually be real. I noticed during the magnet test that it only stuck to the edge and rim. There are some companies that put these coins into besels, and the besels themselves are often a magnetic metal. I've personally had a coin like that. That would also account for the extra weight. And it would also prevent the coin from hitting the ground fully, not getting the full ring that Silver would have. And the size as well! It adds some size to the coin. The Gold gilding would actually muddle the features. You can put a lot of Gold in a small space. I'm an artist, and I can pick up on the small aspects of things. All of the details of the design are perfectly fine. Just a bit muddled because of the Gold gilding. The lines in the dress and flag are soft, the letting looks right, and one area that I find where a lot of counterfeiters fuck up (the hands) is pretty good.
@beachgoldassay
4 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt, this coin is 100% fake.
@silentbliss7666
3 жыл бұрын
Your reasonings seem logical but why would anyone wants to ruin a legit 1 oz silver coin by making it look like a fake to an experienced stacker? Inexperience stacker like myself would buy directly from authorised bullion dealers
@martinb6079
4 жыл бұрын
i do ring test. tap two real silver coins together and theres a distinct ring that last quite a while which you wont get if one of them is fake
@CoinsAndCapsaicin
4 жыл бұрын
I mean look at it....my eyes just go buggy. My brain screams NOOO. So many things off
@kenjohnson3412
5 жыл бұрын
Good, informative video. The back ground music is really annoying.
@philipkatzan9973
2 жыл бұрын
What are the acceptable tolerances for weight, diameter and depth. Usually they are somewhat different than published, but how much is tolerable?
@montydaniels1054
4 жыл бұрын
Another great video Charlie. I remember being at a scrapyard about 14-15 years ago talking with the salesman there since he was who we dealt with at the company I was with. Now I was standing there talking with him when I guy came in with some special alloys and told the salesman what he thought he had. The salesman got out a gun and put it up by the metal & was able to tell him what alloys were in the pieces that he had. Do coin shops usually have this type of tool? I mean I'm not sure what the cost of it was but if it was around $1,000 for the gun, it would be worth getting especially if you were planning on buying a lot of silver coins, or bullion...
@beachgoldassay
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Monty, yes some places do have XRF machines. We have one as well - a very useful tool. I wish they were 1k though - the cheapest XRF machines are about 17k.
@montydaniels1054
4 жыл бұрын
@@beachgoldassay Really, wow. But I suppose for the scrapyard I was at, I knew what they were pulling in a year so they could have had an assembly line of those tools....
@oldscoolcooldiecast1879
Жыл бұрын
I got one it's a 2020 thou actually got two and the shop I bought them from was fare about it but I could tell they wanted to say I was wrong till I pulled out my magnet and also told them to wigh it the second one would hold a magnet but not as much I will not buy anymore silver coins that has gold covering it
@jankochanowski3252
4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Few days ago I purchased Silver Eagles from 1991 and 93. I have also SE from from 1987, 2020 and 2020s. I made a ping test (coin on the tip of my finger, hit by wooden pencil) of these coins and: two coins from 1987 and two from 1993 have not so nice sound like the coins 2007 onwards, but I think they are ok. Two coins from 1991 (I have only 2 from this year) have entirely diferent sound than all the coins from 2007 onwards. The sound is short and not so nice bell like. Just completelly diferent than the younger coins. The weigth , thickness and diameter of coins from 1991 is ok, magnet test was also fine. But result of the ping test raises my concerns about authenticity of these two coins. What is your opinion?
@josepharsenault8609
3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen a Gold Plated Silver Coin that is slightly magnetic due to the Nickel used in the electroplating process? I have a gold-plated coin that passes all the other specs, (Diameter, Weight, Thickness, and specific gravity test) but it is slightly magnetic to a neodymium rare earth magnet.
@sunnydays4966
4 жыл бұрын
Good video. It looks more real than some of them many of big Chinese counterfeiter and steal to them to stop the confusion.
@salvatorelivreri
3 жыл бұрын
I was considering getting into selling American Silver Eagles. How does one get started? Where does one source the rolls? If for example, rolls are retailing at $760 ($38 per coin), what is the price one could acquire them at? Would $10k per order be too little to buy them at that price? And can someone explain all the hands it normally touches from the US Mint to the end-user? I am appreciative of anyone who helps even though I may be seen as a competitor by most.
@jimshort9266
4 жыл бұрын
Do you see more fake bullion ASE’s, Uncirculated ASE’s with a Mint Mark, or Proof version ASE’s? Maybe all? Have you found a fake slab yet? Thanks for the great video
@chriss4365
5 жыл бұрын
come on lets get this dude to 1k subs.
@silverwiskers7371
5 жыл бұрын
Within 10 seconds I spotted it thru the thickness
@datruth9872
5 жыл бұрын
Excellent Job !
@Rdn55
3 жыл бұрын
I can’t hear what he said.. making too much noise with the coin. If it’s magnetic does that mean it’s fake?
@silentbliss7666
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Pure gold and silver are non magnetic
@arianduran1725
4 жыл бұрын
That's a real US 🇺🇸 mint stamp . the only thing of is the magnetic part of it & thickness . other wise its the same features , the U and ~ this is always wrong but that coin has the futures of 1986 to 2006 . on newer ASE the U & ~ is changed . Eagles only have 2 generations & the Frankenstein looking one 2006+2008=2007 i think if not wrong. U.S 🇺🇸 Mint hybrid.
@jacobj.1969
5 жыл бұрын
Why is the fake higher pitched? I have found fakes before,but they were lower pitched than the real silver.
@alexbell8865
4 жыл бұрын
Jacob J. Metal content. Different metals yield a different tone. Just like drum cymbals.
@jacobj.1969
4 жыл бұрын
@@alexbell8865 Yes I understand, but silver has the highest continuity number than any other metal on the periodic table and should in theory vibrate at higher rates so shouldn't it always be higher pitch sound since it is the most conductive?
@alexbell8865
4 жыл бұрын
Jacob J. Could be if we are listening through everyday speakers, the higher frequencies are not coming through. Alternatively the upload rate, and even the mic used to capture the tone could and very well most likely is coloring the tone. I sell recording equipment and one thing a lot of folk don’t realize are the upload rates and such. But I won’t lie, I’m with you, i was surprised.
@jacobj.1969
4 жыл бұрын
@@alexbell8865 Good point on the mic and speakers.
@robin56rf78
4 жыл бұрын
At 2:05 it's obvious
@soniatobias6060
4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Everything I needed. Thank you! ;-)
@beachgoldassay
4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@davidlanham99
4 жыл бұрын
It still looks real to me. They sounded the same, too. I'll take his word for it. I don't know why anybody would want a gold-plated Eagle, though, or those stupid bars.
@CoinsAndCapsaicin
4 жыл бұрын
Study the details of an authentic one and internalize those. Eventually your brain will just lock onto the wrong detail of a fake and you'll see them easy. I cant really explain but I hope you understand.
@robin56rf78
4 жыл бұрын
Fakes are too shiny (look like polished coins), the sound is not good (2:05) and the U of United States has a wrong shape
@davidlanham99
4 жыл бұрын
@@robin56rf78 I'm very familiar with the coins, I just can't tell unless they're side by side. My main point is that it will make it more difficult to sell when there is any lack of confidence in a buyer's mind. That's why I want nothing to do with oddball coins or those dumb bars from some company that the average person, including myself, knows nothing about.
@robin56rf78
4 жыл бұрын
@@davidlanham99 I dont think all people are aware of fakes. Try a buy real one from reputable dealer and if you don't see any differences between this coin and the coin you want to sell, there are chances that the potential buyer would not mind if the coin is fake or not. Moreover, fake coins are mainly sold for cheap on Ebay and on some suspicious websites.
@JACOPO.OFFICIEL
4 жыл бұрын
Nice, thanks 👍
@peterejones
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you we need your smarts due to the fact every thing is now being faked from rice to gold bullion , and I mean every thing in between. I am still trying to get my head around the health food store selling organic seedless watermelon . LuvTruth
@BulletProofBallzPDX
4 жыл бұрын
I bought 5 cons recently, once I got them, I instantly knew they were fake, the eagles and walking liberty were not transverse, and magnetic as all get out, sound was off too. I went to do a return for refund, the online seller was in China, 4 flags and they wont honor a refund. I found out China can allow counterfeiting of US currency due to no agreement with the US. I am now up you know which creek. I would ask, is it ethical if I sell them, very clearly as fake on ebay as examples of counterfeit coins, I am still learning, and if I can just get rid of the fakes to someone that will use the fakes as you do and I can at least get a fraction back of what I'm out it would sting less.
@CONTACTLIGHTTOMMY
2 жыл бұрын
Use a fcking credit card or PayPal for something like that.
@lynnm.2405
4 жыл бұрын
Do you know where I can find the measurements for all sizes of Gold Eagles?
@jimshort9266
4 жыл бұрын
Lynn M.2 ... you might have figured it out by now but I’m sure a google search would get you plenty of results. Also I have checked the websites of some of the online bullion dealers. If they have a listing for the coins you can usually find the weight and dimensions under the specifications or description tab. Check more than one source as sometimes they get it wrong. A lot of copy and pasting and not much proofreading these days.
@montydaniels1054
4 жыл бұрын
I use the US Mint specs but any good coin shop should want to take the time to help you out. You may turn out to be a lifelong customer and I know they like that...
@jmy7622
5 жыл бұрын
I'm making an alblum of unc ase's and they are all from apmex and the last 10 I've bought don't look real ,they have little or no luster some I replaced older dates with toning but you can see the difference , starting in maybe 2012 the coins have little or no luster and ring test dosent sound right . Apmex has always sold good coins to me in years past but I see no reason to dip brand new coins. I don't know if I should get some graded because of cost for (authenticity)but my alblum is almost complete and the last page I put an old 1986 that had a weak strike and ugly toning but its dripping with luster and these newer coins look fake little or no luster and I had replaced a few and they stand out (not good)why would they dip a 2018 or 19 coin? Suggestions?Do you know where I can buy the proper magnet for testing silver? Hope someone can help because I want a real set and these I've been getting really clash, they look like steel. Apmex has always been one of the better online coin sellers for new silver ect. I wouldn't but their collector coins though ,I go to heritage for that.But these look like "details" coins in the slab. Appreciate any suggestions . Thank you.
@davidtigert4842
5 жыл бұрын
You can order a mixture of sulfuric @ nitric acids online for about 5 bucks.It is a simple and reliable test but be damn sure to wear all the proper safety gear. I.E.acid proof gloves,long sleeves and eye protection. Dee @ chemical enginering.
@davidtigert4842
5 жыл бұрын
Also, the acid test will put an acid burn on tested coins.
@davidtigert4842
5 жыл бұрын
Weigh coin first.check width@ thickness @ compare. Can also order mix of nitric@sulphuric acid on line for about 5.00.
@jimshort9266
4 жыл бұрын
jmy ... how have things turned out for you? I see your post is a year old at this point so I imagine you found a magnet by now. Did the coins turn out to be ok. Did you ask about retuning/exchanging them?
@xpy1
4 жыл бұрын
The fake one sounds lower the real coins rings higher
@miahmarieeeeee
4 жыл бұрын
Did you get an eBay sale while showing these coins I heard money
@64Street
5 жыл бұрын
Where can I get a fake CNN coin.
@rickminyard9577
4 жыл бұрын
Seems like eBay is encouraging these thieves. Nothing liking making money from commissions is there
@delta_bluesontwitch8463
4 жыл бұрын
The "IN GOD" is shifted to the left relative to "WE TRUST."
@Duriel1000
13 күн бұрын
I mean it is supposed to be SILVER- the first RED Flag was that is was NOT silver! lol
@chesteraellenwood8010
Жыл бұрын
Story of my life
@LucyJazzy85
5 жыл бұрын
This just FREAKED ME OUT... new buyer of metals, I truly believed that only the bullion rounds and bars were fakeable and the coins were real... I bought 260 silver eagles on July 4th from a company called SD Bullion. Does anyone out there have personal experience with this dealer (and hopefully GOOD!!) experience ??
@silverwiskers7371
5 жыл бұрын
What up with SD?, they are a major contender in the bullion world
@LucyJazzy85
5 жыл бұрын
gene Pohlemann I just wanted to know if SD is reputable or have they sold fakes to anyone?
@silverwiskers7371
5 жыл бұрын
@@LucyJazzy85 no fakes from them, guaranteed.
@LucyJazzy85
5 жыл бұрын
gene Pohlemann thanks a lot for letting me know 😊💜
@davidtigert4842
5 жыл бұрын
SD bullion has a good rep for whats its worth. Go to a coin shop and have them tested. Or you can buy test kits on line. 260 silver eagles is a lot of money. They are US currency and ti fake one would be counsidered counterfitting. A violation of federal law.Get a test and report it to the proper authorities if not real. I, also recently bought a few silver eagles from SD bullion. Good luck and post your results so orhers will know. David
@kathylynne2011
Жыл бұрын
I prefer to hear what you have to say, and not have to listen to that damnable noise in the back ground.
@erikdale9145
5 жыл бұрын
When these come in, obviously you console the folks, but do you offer em a couple buck or whatever to keep them for vids or examples?
@beachgoldassay
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. No, I do not offer to buy unless they get a second opinion. I do not want people to think they just got scammed by only getting a buck for their eagle unless they have confirmed by another dealer. Just the way I do business. What has happened is when I have verified something is fake, people will give me the fake items as something for my time related to helping them get their money back via ebay or however they bought it. I do enjoy collecting the fake stuff, just to keep it out of the market and help make these videos.
@timnathan2514
4 жыл бұрын
#1 Great, now I have to find a video showing the comparison of the magnet test - on both coins. #2 The ring comparison would have been better done had you dropped one coin once and then a 2nd time and then a split-second before the 1st coin stops ringing release the other coin, so you have overlapping sounds, do it again. Then do the 1st coin by itself. #3 Checking the diameter of the real coin again - twice you stated the dia. as 40.6mm, no big deal right? But then @ 6:34 - "you might think your tool [the caliper] is just a little bit off," it clearly is "the tool" holding the caliper, measuring the dia. of the coins is off. Better next time around.
@JimmyMitchell-Lucky
4 жыл бұрын
Tim Nathan you do not need a comparison video for magnetism! Silver is NOT magnetic 🧲!
@MetalBum
5 жыл бұрын
Totally man i hate these counterfeiters good methods
@ltcajh
3 жыл бұрын
No music please.
@timhallas4275
4 жыл бұрын
I thought you were supposed to bite it.
@montydaniels1054
4 жыл бұрын
You're thinking of those westerns giving those silver coins the ''Chew Test''... Or was it a Hershey chocolate bar...
@johng3929
3 жыл бұрын
I like fakes. Display the fakes for thieves to steal.
@metsrus
4 жыл бұрын
why bother faking a 20 dollar coin?
@destinyseeksme
4 жыл бұрын
...So they can make them for $2 and sell them for $10 making a profit of the counterfeit, baiting the buyer thinking he/she is getting a good deal... Do this scam a couple thousand times, it can be profitable.
@metsrus
4 жыл бұрын
I hear ya, but if I were in the counterfeit business and good at it, why not invest my time and energy in counterfeiting a gold coin that is worth $2000 rather than a 20 dollar coin. Is it easier to get away with faking silver?
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