"game will have better writing" I'm sweating rubber bullets over here man
@markusz2844
7 ай бұрын
should we tell her
@tankderpsy2004
7 ай бұрын
Atleast Akiyama exists to cleanse the game of its sins
@GugureSux
7 ай бұрын
Newsflash: the original Japanese script says nothing about "rubber". The JP voice actors clearly say "STUN rounds", multiple times, referring to some high-tech nonlethal rounds you don't find elsewhere. It's a minute difference, but totally alters the mood.
@Avengedtenfold
7 ай бұрын
4 has incredible writing aside from Rubber Bullets and how little they did with Lily.
@Cavemanryu
7 ай бұрын
Technically zero came out after the release of Yakuza 5
@CyricZ
7 ай бұрын
I knew from the first stream once she started reacting that Bae would be a lifer for this series.
@realQuestion
7 ай бұрын
Couldn't be happier. I hope when she gets to 4 and 5 and the world keeps expanding with other protagonists, she'll feel the series is even more compelling. EDIT: Thanks for your work on the guides. Just realized it was you. After several games using them, I felt confident to tackle Infinite Wealth without one :)
@tophu3838
7 ай бұрын
Holy shit it's CyricZ, thanks to you I could finish 4-6. Glad to see you're watching Bae's playthru! Love you man
@anjake01
7 ай бұрын
I haven't finished 0 but 0 made me a lifer
@fukyomammason
7 ай бұрын
The guide god himself.
@copeseethe7337
7 ай бұрын
THE MAN HIMSELF
@mencobasukses97
7 ай бұрын
0:27 : don't let K-son know she said that
@superheriber27
7 ай бұрын
She would eat her alive
@deadman20023
7 ай бұрын
i cannot imagine playing zero first at all....
@gnerus1972
7 ай бұрын
@@deadman20023 ? Without spoilers, it makes Nishiki's character much more complex and makes you like him and relate to him much more. The flashbacks that Kiwami added are a major upgrade still, but 0 makes it hit harder. Playing 0 with 1's knowledge is also very compelling in its own way too tbh, but I still think going chronologically with Yakuza is the best way of playing through the franchise, including Judgment. For me 0 is still weakest in the entire main series though, Kiwami 1 is a direct upgrade in term of gameplay even if the story beats aren't as memorable sometimes. Yakuza 5 is, for me, the best mainline game (60% of that is purely because of Shinada).
@mencobasukses97
7 ай бұрын
@@deadman20023 I have sinned
@askatamvan1054
7 ай бұрын
@@gnerus19720 is the weakest? Damn
@San-san6499
7 ай бұрын
Good thing she's gonna keep playing, that way she'll at least have closure seeing Majima's arc in Kiwami 2 Also, Imagine Bae meeting the goats like Saejima or even Shinada
@ReiSyre62
7 ай бұрын
Don't forget Idol Haruka and Money Financer Akiyama. Can't go wrong with Idol Power Fantasy and Fancy-ass Man with so much Rizz
@kelele
7 ай бұрын
Yeah I am waiting for that patiently
@Givetheplant
7 ай бұрын
she’ll enjoy akiyama way more what😭
@ReiSyre62
7 ай бұрын
@@Givetheplant I think she's gonna ditch both Kiryu and Majima once she's meet Akiyama. Say goodbye to Dragons and hello to Loan-Financial Guy
@connorl3124
7 ай бұрын
@@ReiSyre62whenever I see people simping over Majima and Kiryu, I’m like “I get it” but Akiyama is a whole nother level man. Killer singing voice, Rizz, intelligent, dope fighting style, and he is Japanese markiplier in his appearance
@Nitram-MH
7 ай бұрын
The way I pretty much flipped perspectives on Nishiki before and after playing 0 is really something. I played Kiwami before 0 simply because I didn’t have the means to get 0 and I was too eager to start the franchise. I saw Nishiki as nothing but just the evil brother, who had justified reasons for why he is the way he is. But after playing 0 and seeing all of the setups they make, all the foreshadowings and especially seeing what Nishiki is actually like, it gave me a whole different perspective on how I see him in Kiwami. It’s honestly surprising how starting with either one can work regardless
@ILoveEvadingTax
7 ай бұрын
Same with Majima, hard to understate how good it was to flip script on him as a character and make him a measured and rational instead of the wild card that previous fans knew him as
@deadman20023
7 ай бұрын
Exactly nishki and majima are just two creeps and psychopaths but then in zero you understand their full character and after that every time kiryu remembers nishiki he remembers him with what was good in him.
@treebush
7 ай бұрын
@@deadman20023not even close for maijima you d have to be blind to not see maijima character growth and his true self peaks out little by little by 5 it’s pretty obvious there was more to him
@denkerbosu3551
7 ай бұрын
@@treebush It's not to the extent as Nishiki, but I think most were surprised by how Majima was in 0 compared to those glimpses before.
@Edanite
7 ай бұрын
The thing with starting Yakuza 0 first is it is such a good game with modern story telling and more fluent controls that it makes Kiwami feel stiff and outdated. You feel its age in a very tedious way. This could be a deal breaker for a lot of people. Of course starting with 0 gives you a deep appreciation for kiwami characters, more so then if you started with kiwami. You don't really feel the level of tragedy in some of the characters until you experience events in 0. Starting with either is fine, what matters is if you can survive the quality shift between 0 and 1. For me I started with 1 and played 0 after. I was able to push through the controls stiffness because 1 was my first game. Moving to 0 let me connect the dots and appreciate where the characters would end up. I believe if I had played 0 first I think my interest for Yakuza may have died after beating 1, if I did at all. I loved the game but there were moments where I felt like I was forcing myself to push forward. But these are my very bias thoughts, take 'em with a grain of salt.
@gnerus1972
7 ай бұрын
I don't get the "stiff" criticism of Kiwami 1, it's just a direct upgrade in terms of gameplay all-around. Also you actually get to use DoD style and it isn't handicapped by the need to have most of it's upgrades.
@srkares
7 ай бұрын
having played kiwami1 for the first time after bae had finished 0, and having played 0 and 5 before, i cant really agree on "stiff controls". the game feels very good when you actually know what you are doing and dont just mash buttons (which is something that i learned from 5 and 0). personally, i also find the story really interesting, but ymmv.
@Eamil
7 ай бұрын
Are you confusing Kiwami with the PS2 original? Kiwami gameplay is literally adapted directly from Yakuza 0, including the different combat styles.
@Edanite
7 ай бұрын
@@Eamil Nope, no confusion. I never played the original. My issue isn't mechanics, it's response/delay/feel. These things aren't bad at first, but in the later half of the game when the difficulty spikes these things matter a lot more and can become frustrating when the response feels far too stiff, especially when this shift happens so late in the game. (Worse if the game starts to randomly ignore button inputs for multiple seconds.) Which is a shame. From what people have told me and what I read on forums and comments from people who dropped the game at K1, this and the storytelling were the only consistent deal breakers I could find. Most anything else seemed like nit-picking. The game is great, but it has its flaws and unfortunately these flaws are enough to cause players to quit.
@duhotatoday3277
7 ай бұрын
Kiwami is overall a pretty bad remake. It both doesn't faithfully recreate 1's adding a lot of its own (and bad) stuff, and at the same time doesn't update the game to the modern standards enough, like the fact that all cutscenes (except for Nishiki flashbacks) are obviously just PS2 ones but with modern models, which looks extremely janky and uncanny, especially after 0
@thetntraider
7 ай бұрын
This is why I tell people to play 0 first. You just get so much depth to the characters that just isn't really explored in Kiwami or the original game. You don't get that heartbreak if you start with Kiwami.
@achievementart
7 ай бұрын
Nishiki's regrettable and honestly kinda relatable spiral from 0 into Kiwami is the sole reason why I'll always preach starting from 0
@cnhnx
7 ай бұрын
I've played the original back in 2005. The final fight still have a lot of emotional impact even without added context from 0 and Kiwami. And Majima having sparse appearance in the original actually made him more mysterious, threatening, and cool instead of overexposed like he was in Kiwami (as funny as some scenes were) or knowing him beforehand in 0.
@SlackFundayCh
7 ай бұрын
if you want to play the original 1 and 2, you should start with 1 and play 0 after playing 5. If you want to play Kiwami and Kiwami 2, then start by 0. I personally think like Kson that 0 is not a great entry game because it's just too good compared to what comes next, so I wish more people would start with the original. But I can't decently advise them to start with Kiwami, as some are doing, because it references 0 way too much.
@TheNuts1225
7 ай бұрын
There are a lot of references that are completely lost if you play 0 first.
@bakacdaz
7 ай бұрын
@@achievementartAlso Nishiki act like he is gonna die or betraying Kiryu a lot of time in 0. If you already play Kiwami you gonna know he will be fine for years.
@soulrockch.5978
7 ай бұрын
"Games further down the line will have better writing" Uhhh yeah.. about that
@Prod_Ayesian
7 ай бұрын
Hehe *YUME*
@FeinEZ
7 ай бұрын
Its mainly yakuza 4 that stumbles the writing. The game is still amazing but the plot was kinda poopoo
@Grande_Vtr
7 ай бұрын
Yakuza 4 and 5 are weird, but completely worth it just to get to 6
@elianwilliams
7 ай бұрын
It peaked in Yakuza 5 where even the final boss had no idea why he was there
@Kaimax61
7 ай бұрын
that's the inherent problem of playing zero first. You played the "reviver" of the series, and then have to trudge through jank and things that almost killed the series, before peaking again at 6 and beyond.
@GK-st6qm
7 ай бұрын
I am glad I played 0 first as well, you instantly get hooked and learn so much about the characters that makes you appreciate them way more in Kiwami especially Majima and Nishiki. Also 0 is the best game in the series imo it will almost never get better than that but that doesn't mean the other games aren't absolute bangers on their own so I am glad she is going to keep playing.
@GugureSux
7 ай бұрын
In all honesty, if you want borderline the same quality writing and pacing as in Y0, you need to play the PS2 originals of Y1-2. Kiwami bloats and changes way too much stuff ... and sadly doesn't change enough at times.
@realQuestion
7 ай бұрын
You know, many fans think the first game has the most serious crime-drama-type writing. I'm not surprised she'd like some of the broader and more lighthearted entries more, but really, it's not like Kiwami is less sophisticated writing-wise. Maybe she'll change her tune by the ending, or after Kiwami is lent certain additional context when she plays Kiwami 2.
@xtr.7662
7 ай бұрын
It does though kiwami is one of the better ones
@gnerus1972
7 ай бұрын
@@xtr.7662 True, i'd say weakest story is either 2 or 0 tbh. Not bad at all, just the least interesting?
@xtr.7662
7 ай бұрын
@@gnerus1972 definitely not 0 its the best one
@billygoatguy3960
7 ай бұрын
Yakuza 2 having a triple backstab at the end makes it the goofiest game in the series to me and I love it for that. Every game after it doesnt quite have that campy nature. I really enjoy 3 because of the groundwork it lays for kiryu to be more than just a tough guy, and the variety of gameplay in 5 is wonderful but the rest of 3-5 is just incredibly dry. 6 also left much to desire but I dont quite have as much to complain about it because it's not inflated with characters i dont care about.
@fjshdf
7 ай бұрын
I played zero into Kiwami. You can really feel Yakuza 1's writing not being as tight as it would later become - the are several chapters that feel like side stories.
@marineadmiraljunior7904
7 ай бұрын
I have played Zero and then kiwami. You get so much feels that the betrayal from Nishiki is so much more meaningful
@matchanavi
7 ай бұрын
Her saying she wouldn't be hooked by Kiwami is why I'm so pro "Start with 0". You start with an amazing story, great substories (instead of idiots try to scam Kiryu for the 50th time), great side games (Cabaret) etc. Plus it gets you invested in the characters you'll follow in the future, and you know how good the games can get so you can force yourself to keep going.
@MrCh0o
7 ай бұрын
Oh god, not the endless stream of scams
@Kaimax61
7 ай бұрын
but that's the thing, people usually stop at kiwami 2... or just skip to 7... lol
@s07195
7 ай бұрын
Except people don't keep going. They call it Yakuza fans have not played Yakuza because they play Zero (and maybe Kiwami, god forbid K2) and then stop.
@gnerus1972
7 ай бұрын
@@s07195 90% of new fans just don't care enough to play through an entire franchise, zoomer mindest
@blindeyedblightmain3565
7 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's better to experience a single great Yakuza game than none at all
@ratchetanon1074
5 ай бұрын
Just wait until she learns about Majima Construction.
@yogynuts
7 ай бұрын
3 is still my fav of the og 6
@yeetusdelete0
7 ай бұрын
:0
@Counselor-yj8hk
7 ай бұрын
**surprised Pikachu Face**
@yogynuts
7 ай бұрын
@@yeetusdelete0 ok let me rephrase that 3 is my fav of the ps3 title 4 and 5 were good but 3 holds a special place in my heart
@mingaliteminimoon
7 ай бұрын
Honestly same, for some reason while 3 is a bit dated, I found it really captivating - probably cuz Majima was absolutely amazing in 3 and that's what matters most And the combat was not that bad (I played on normal tho)
@beemoh
7 ай бұрын
1:43 ...that's seven years before Bae was born!
@ShadowdaHedgie11
7 ай бұрын
I can't believe the original Yakuza came out before Bae was born /hj
@keiyousu7454
7 ай бұрын
KSon: THIS IS WHY-
@MalosiAudios
4 ай бұрын
She’s so gonna fall in love with Akiyama bro No woman (or man) has ever resisted the Akiyama charm
@christianlenik5307
6 күн бұрын
expect Majima
@mrtakeiteasy
7 ай бұрын
The only Yakuza game I'd worry where she may drop or enjoy would be Yakuza 3. I just played through it and it felt like a slog, especially where there was a really long random exposition...It was quite painful. The one thing I learned when playing Yakuza though, people die when they are killed, until they aren't. Bullets don't kill people, not re-appearing for future games kills people.
@ryokihama
7 ай бұрын
You mean Yakuza baby-sitting Simulator?
@sgtkwan
7 ай бұрын
Also doesn't help how 0, kiwami and kiwami 2 were all made after 3. So going from nice looking, smooth gameplay, modern UI and dragon engine to like ps2 quality graphics, ui and clunkiness can be a turn of. It was a turn of for me, had to put the game on easy and blitz through it in like 10 hours.
@mrtakeiteasy
7 ай бұрын
I think the biggest issues I had with 3 was mostly stemmed from 2 QOL that was in kiwami. The quest system on the map, and the enemies blocking WAY too much. The story is a different thing, but its mostly just exposition that bothered me
@FeinEZ
7 ай бұрын
I still think 3 has a ton of heart and soul thats impossible for me not to love, despite how clunky the game can be
@samuelrodriguez5282
7 ай бұрын
Id say play 0 1 2 and skip to 6 and then gaiden
@stephenmahilum4770
7 ай бұрын
People who plays Kiwami first reacting to Nishiki: He's like Vergil! (Happened in a stormy weather, stabs a dude and pulls his hair back)
@Hangishta
7 ай бұрын
I have only played 0. Been meaning to play the rest, but I’m just watching people play through it in the background as I do chores and stuff.
@ronik809
7 ай бұрын
from my experience of yuakuza (0-3)every time Majima is dress sanely he is depressed
@JomaXZ
7 ай бұрын
Having played Zero first and then Kiwami makes me wonder how much of a difference playing the original game makes. I wish they'd rerelease the original game, since it looks like it plays VERY differently from Kiwami in almost every way.
@flavoryf566
7 ай бұрын
Kiwami is a remake so...yeah it was meant to play different due to the jank it had back then. Nevermind the graphics rehaul, bits of story revamp & expansion.
@seka1nix
7 ай бұрын
Playing the original would definitely make you appreciate Kiwami more, but also start seeing more of its flaws.
@SonnyFRST
7 ай бұрын
It's a complicated situation, there are pros and cons to both sides of the argument. Starting w/ Y0 passes a number of inaccurate (or straight up wrong) ideas about the rest of the series, Majima being the most glaring instance. Starting w/ Kiwami you'll already know who has plot armor when you get to Y0 and the constant "18 years ago" mentions get annoying fast without context. (I would know, I played Kiwami first) Overall, I'd say it depends more on the person playing than the games themselves.
@kappamemes3001
7 ай бұрын
I personally don't think that there's a better starting point between 0 and Kiwami, both of them were kinda made to flow into each other. Purists will say that playing the games in release order makes for the most natural progression, but I don't think many people would be willing to find a PS2 to play the original Yakuza with.
@CamperCarl00
7 ай бұрын
Going from Yakuza 0 to Kiwami isn't where most of the fans stop playing. It's going from Kiwami 2, a game that released after 6 to Y3. This is because Y3 did not get the Kiwami treatment, and arguably, the remaster made the frame based combat system worse.
@ELEMENTOR374
7 ай бұрын
Theres a reason why some folks say starting at 0 is bad. 0 gives you the impression that all the other games are similar in quality, so when you start 1 it feels like a massive downgrade. But at the same time...1 story is fucking rough lmao. 0 is a fantastic game, beautifully made. And still is, i think it's still got the best story in the series, with 7 and 8 coming close. I don't blame folks for starting at 0. Unless you're fine with the slower burn that is starting from order of release date
@xtr.7662
7 ай бұрын
Youre exagerating way too much kiwami story is one of the best because its classic 8s story is not that good its on par with kiwami
@xtr.7662
7 ай бұрын
0, 7, judgment, lost judgment have the best stories
@GugureSux
7 ай бұрын
Going from Zero to the "later games" can be a bit jarring, I give you that, but there's also the bigger problem: both Kiwami remakes were VERY rushed, and not that high quality. Both of them are treated more like standalone "DLC" to Y0 than as faithful recreations. I'd highly recommend checking out the PS2 originals of both games, or at least watching a video on them. BTW: Korone played the PS2 original Yakuza 1. It was great!
@Gigi-zr6hp
7 ай бұрын
Going from Kiwami 2 to 3 however turns off most players due to the ps3 graphics + sluggish combats that only the most dedicated of fans will push through (I played it on easy instead of skipping the game entirely since 3 is a crucial plot point to the Kiryu saga and Okinawa has such a refreshing vibe compared to the concrete jungle of Kamurocho / Sotenbori)
@MikedieONE
7 ай бұрын
@@Gigi-zr6hp As someone who started with Zero then kiwami 1 and then kiwami 2(Which was the best remake on a technical level but the story was so disappointing in 2)... Yakuza 3 even tho it felt super outdates from a technical standpoint(especially the fights feel annoying with all the blocking).. it somehow felt like breeze of fresh air with the Okinawa location and the story was so much better written than 1 & 2. you can tell they changed the writer from the first 2 games. 3 is when the writing of the yakuza series became really intriguing and emotional. even tho its technically outdated, the plot kept me going and made me even enjoy the game much more than the Kiwami 2 remake. I have played through the entire series now.. and Yakuza 0 is still by far the best(from a story perspective) tho. My favs are Yakuza 0, Yakuza 6, Yakuza 7, Yakuza 4. Im playing through 8 now. not sure where this one will rank. im only 15hours in. but i heard its very emotional as well.
@xtr.7662
7 ай бұрын
@@MikedieONEyakuza 3 has a much worse story than both kiwamis lmao and kiwami 2 combat is worse than kiwami
@xtr.7662
7 ай бұрын
The kiwami games are high quality what the heck are you babbling about kiwami is basically 0 but reskinned still kiwami 2 was clearly a big title it received more care than 6
@Eamil
7 ай бұрын
Playing the games in "release order" has worked out fine for me personally, but I did have to think really hard about it. I enjoyed Yakuza Kiwami a lot, and having Yakuza 0 to look forward to helped me push through 3, 4, and 5 which are definitely the real "rough patch" of the series in terms of gameplay.
@maousadao9572
7 ай бұрын
I feel like playing 0 is required to play before you play Kiwami, because there's so much of Kiwami that was built off of what Zero did, whether gameplay, main story or substory wise. Maybe if you played the original yakuza 1 it would be fine to play that before you played zero. but for anything released after 0 it's kind of important to have played 0 first
@s07195
7 ай бұрын
It's like saying you needed to see the prequels to enjoy the original Star Wars trilogy's version of Darth Vader.
@bakk02
7 ай бұрын
The thing about Yakuzas writing is… these games are soap operas. If you can appreciate stories at that level and vibe with the occasional dumb bullshit it’s smooth sailing through pretty much any of them. They will not survive a “hey wait hold on” though.
@aoBubs
7 ай бұрын
That’s true lol, I just enjoy the ride
@MrCh0o
7 ай бұрын
I take it she answers the question about liking Majima from the person and not the character perspective. Which seems quite understandable, all in all, at least withhin the context of jumping from Yakuza 0 into Kiwami
@AmadeyAzalin
7 ай бұрын
Though she wouldn't get smooth Majima if we didn't like properly "insane" Majima years ago. So i am very annoyed when she (and all Zero-initiates in general) use "origina" talking about Zero!Majima
@tlcompletionist7892
7 ай бұрын
I think she’ll change her thoughts after she’s beaten Kiwami
@peterperng
7 ай бұрын
it's funny if u know majima during kiwami/2, u will like this character more after u ply 0. But if u ply 0 and then continue with kiwami, most ppl will be super confuse and somehow disappoint for majima. The difference between a goofy character have a serious back story and a serious back story character is being goofy.
@NovaFire64
7 ай бұрын
Small typo 3:32 peaked. Thanks for the clip
@Eamil
7 ай бұрын
Years of people saying something "peaked my interest" and now the opposite mistake is happening.
@DegmoGrandfather
7 ай бұрын
Wonder how best man Ichiban will be for her
@ronaldrodriguez9038
7 ай бұрын
I just want her to one day play the dub of Judgement and Lost Judgement
@gnerus1972
7 ай бұрын
nooo no the dub please, it's not bad but the original VAs are in a league of their own
@deadman20023
7 ай бұрын
I would never reccomend zero first only because instead of appreciating kiryu and then the righteousness he had even before becoming the legend it becomes a time skip and he just sort of becomes the dragon of dojima who sacrifices himself for his brother in early kiwami. I appreciated kiryus past more when I knew him as the badass uncle he is.
@ROBOHOLIC1
7 ай бұрын
If you're gonna start from 0. At *least* come back to it when you've beaten up to Y5. It just makes it so much better when you catch the references.
@superheriber27
7 ай бұрын
I can see why Coco was against starting with 0
@gabp8354
7 ай бұрын
Why was she against it?
@dragoknighte48
7 ай бұрын
@@gabp8354 I don't know her reasons specifically, but after playing a lot of the games and thinking about them in the context of the whole series and how they contribute to the franchise, starting with 0 has issues. First of all, people think of 0 as "the first one" but that's not the truth of the matter. 0 is the sixth game in the series and a lot of its writing relies on calls forward and references to other games, both in the side content and for the drama of its main plot. This gets lost on players who start with the game, and while they can still appreciate the story perfectly fine without it, the same could be said of literally any Yakuza game. The other major sticking point is that 0 sets a standard that is so high that it makes the other games seem worse, even though 0 as a game also has a lot of issues that you don't really see when you play it as your first game.
@robertclarkson2068
7 ай бұрын
@@gabp8354 The biggest reason was that Majima is completely different and that his different personality doesn't hit as hard unless you play the other games first. Plus there's loads of references to the other games (that went completely over my head since I also played it first lol). There's a clip out there somewhere where she goes into it.
@gnerus1972
7 ай бұрын
@@dragoknighte48 Kinda funny how people say that 0 sets a high standard when it's the worst or second-worst combat in the franchise. Kiwami 1 is literally a direct upgrade in every way.
@mortified0
7 ай бұрын
@@gnerus1972 This is the most wrong I've ever seen anyone be about Yakuza 0.
@tornado415
7 ай бұрын
0 is the better hook
@jie5739
7 ай бұрын
"game will have better writing" Should we tell her?
@PolarBear_ed
7 ай бұрын
8 is the best as of now.
@ushiromiyabattler9374
7 ай бұрын
0 is awesome, kiwami is good because 0 (and is depressing AF after playing 0)
@s07195
7 ай бұрын
Sega just release the Y1&2 HD remasters onto modern platforms already FFS
@lorddeecee
7 ай бұрын
Playing the games in order she says
@kiyopawn
7 ай бұрын
chronological order perhaps
@lorddeecee
7 ай бұрын
@@kiyopawn she is chaos after all, she’s playing in a chaotic order
@christianlenik5307
6 күн бұрын
@@lorddeecee No, she plays in Crono Order!
@Mashiromitsumine409
7 ай бұрын
I was going to agree with bea but then she started talking down on majima smh majima is perfect in every game
@blindeyedblightmain3565
7 ай бұрын
Majima in Y0 and Majima in every other game after are two completely different characters tho.
@bumbumduwg4823
7 ай бұрын
Yakuza 3 is gonna be hard on her
@Complete_Stranger7050
7 ай бұрын
Wait till he gets to Kiwami 2 and Gaiden
@gnerus1972
7 ай бұрын
Wait till she gets to Rikiya...
@MaskofFayt
7 ай бұрын
"It feels like a 2005 game" you mean the absolute peak of PS2 gaming? DMC 3, Yakuza 1, Soul Calibur III, Resident Evil 4. It was a hell of a year.
@ReiSyre62
7 ай бұрын
I played the original game and it's sequel (2005 & 2006) like last two years ago and it was a journey. Plus some things they change or added in Kiwami 1 & 2 are necessary but some are not. I can't go over the detail but now with me playing the first two Original PS2 Games. I'm more confident and having understanding on where to tackle the series. You now have four options (I initially put three but I added one because this is what I've seen on community of vtuber lately). 1. Play through Timeline so basically you play on Zero then Kiwami 1 and finally Kiwami 2 before hitting up to 3-4-5 and 6 for Kiryu Saga, then continue your journey to Yakuza: Like A Dragon (7) then hits the Gaiden story DLC before going to now the latest Like A Dragon: Infinite Wealth (8). 2. Start through Very Beginning so you basically start on Original First PS2 Game and going to Original Yakuza 2, then playing Original PS3 Yakuza 3-4-5 and start to Zero. Then you have option to choose playing Kiwami 1 or 2 before going to 6 then 7 before going to latest installment rn 8. 3. Kiwami Starters, this one is hella Surprising but it's understandable. Way it play it's same like number two except ditch the Original and start on Yakuza Kiwami 1 then go back to Zero then playing Kiwami 2. Finally do the rest 3-6 then playing 7, Gaiden and 8. 4. Vtuber Cut Edition. Why I named Vtuber cut edition? Because I've spotted few Vtuber playing the game but then they stopped playing it or cut their attention to the game like example: Pekora Playing Zero then Kiwami 1 but because the story of the game destroy her too much she's skipped Kiwami 2-6 and straight playing Yakuza: Like A Dragon (7) why? Because she's love Dragon Quest and seeing this game has combat and protagonist that play like Dragon Quest so she's jumped right into it without any regrets. Or good example again some Vtuber I've seen online are only Playing Zero then go to Kiwami 1 & 2, then they ditched the game without continued it to the 6. Back then I'm totally pissed off but now I've realized how long the game of 3-6 (especially 5, that game was too much ambitious.) So I get some people inner thoughts that they don't have a time to invest into this game but oh well. How I am gonna tell them or convince them to play if they're not interested will to begin with? And ngl, The Ending of Yakuza 2 could be a final story of Yakuza series as a whole back in the day before Yakuza 3 was a thing.
@DingoEnderZOE2
7 ай бұрын
Yeaaaaah the thing with introducing new recruits to the series ESPECIALLY NORMIES(non-gamers or casual gamers) they kind of have to start with Yakuza 0 to increase their chances of getting into the series. The rat is right that a large percentage of new casual gamer players in this generation would have a harder time getting into the series if they start with Kiwami.
@ken.7019
7 ай бұрын
Playing through Kiwami rn and I 100% agree, the combat is very challenging at first. But for people that play games regularly, they should def play kiwami first, the game is very easy once you understand how the flow of combat works. But most people aren't gonna be patient enough to do that, and it's understandable
@Karleetoh
7 ай бұрын
i get it. for me, Yakuza Kiwami 1 was on PS Plus years ago and i nabbed it. the added nishiki's flashbacks that weren't in the original helped me sympathize with him. ad the rest is history :)
@Rixec2
7 ай бұрын
Starting with 0 is the way to go, especially for the Kiwami games. 0, Kiwami, and Kiwami 2 feel like a trilogy that go well together.
@FloppyFiona
7 ай бұрын
I also started playing the Like A Dragon games starting with Zero. I know my friend said that it was meant to be played after Yakuza 5, so things would make more sense, but eventually I was like "Nah, I'll play it in chronological order." Zero had a pretty good start, and Kiwami felt really dated for me after that. Then Kiwami 2 was like the first game where I felt that the story was really great, but the gameplay, man. Doesn't feel as good as Zero/Kiwami. Then again Kiwami was crazy hard compared to Kiwami 2. My friend said though that Lost Judgment might be good game for me, because it has Dragon Engine's improvements and Yakuza 0/Kiwami's gameplay, but I'll see whenever I'll get there.
@bjhale
7 ай бұрын
Lost Judgment is very, very good. Mine is a minority opinion, but I might even like it better than 0. Word of warning: after 6, the chronological order goes Judgment, Yakuza: Like A Dragon. (7), Lost Judgment, Like A Dragon Infinite Wealth. Gaiden is meant to be played after 7, but takes place parallel to it.
@FloppyFiona
7 ай бұрын
@@bjhale I actually want to play the Judgment games seperately, just like Like A Dragon Ishin, because I wanna get through the main entries
@gnerus1972
7 ай бұрын
@@bjhale LJ has objectively the best and most in-depth combat system in all of Yakuza, that is NOT a minority opinion at all. Every brawler game after LJ feels like a massive downgrade (looking at you Gaiden).
@gnerus1972
7 ай бұрын
@@FloppyFiona Judgment and Lost Judgment spoil quite a bit of the main story though (especially 7's story) so I wouldn't recommend playing them before playing 7. Ishin! however is completely non-canon cause well... it's a samurai spin-off, it has nothing to do with any other Yakuza/Judgment game other than the voice actors and character models.
@FloppyFiona
7 ай бұрын
@@gnerus1972 I was actually planning to play those two after Infinite Wealth
@kelele
7 ай бұрын
Starting with Kiwami is just wrong. If there is an entire 30 odd hours of gameplay before you always start from that.
@flavoryf566
7 ай бұрын
Eh it's not "wrong" It is the very 1st game in the franchise. And it was that way for most of the franchises life. 10 years before 0 came into the fray vs 0's 9 years to be an optional 1st game in the franchise. People can still play 1-5 and play 0 at any point between them or after. Granted with the additions Kiwami 2 got over 2 then the Majima saga part could get put on the backburner for a bit. 0 is a prequel afterall, and is still a very good showcase of the studio's growth & strengths at a very polished level after the first 5 games.
@blondeboi2132
7 ай бұрын
I liked majima and I didn't play zero first, and I like the mad dog more than the retconned butler fetish guy
@samazam4221
7 ай бұрын
If she really gonna play all of them Id suggest just streaming up until Kiwami 2, play 3-6 in her own time, and start stream again from 7 onwards. 3-6 *are* pretty important to the overall narrative of the series, but the quality of those game itself is not as good as the remake duo, much less the likes of 0, 7 and 8. They can be quite dull most of the time, and when they are not its more weird and confusing rather than entertaining. But regardless of whether shed stream any of them I still would highly recommend to anyone to play the every game. One of the best things about this series is seeing how the characters (both in the main story and the subquests) and locations evolve and change over the course of the series.
@GugureSux
7 ай бұрын
I TOTALLY disagree. I found Kiwami 1-2 to be absolute shit, Y3 to be return to the QUALITY of Y0, and Y4-5 are easily the best games right after Zero. Six was ... dear god....
@MikedieONE
7 ай бұрын
@@GugureSux what issue do people have with 6? its the second best story after 0 for me. BY FAR! and one of the most emotional ones. also the onomichi location is one of the prettiest in the entire series.
@xtr.7662
7 ай бұрын
@@MikedieONEit isnt by any metric lmao kiryus ending was solid but thats about it everything just felt like yakuza 3 but slightly better
@gnerus1972
7 ай бұрын
@@MikedieONE story is quite nice but you can really feel the fact that it's a rushed game, especially in the combat. Onomichi is a great location that's true
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