was cool to see the asgard but feel they were under utilized based on there power
@mattakins3422
2 жыл бұрын
Asgard, humans and Jaffa working together...takes a lot to make that happen...
@mattakins3422
2 жыл бұрын
Add to that the Lucian Alliance..
@alistairrae9807
2 жыл бұрын
And the Tok’ra apparently some of the Hat’ak motherships belongs to the Tok’ra
@shooterdownunder
2 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget the Russians along side the Americans
@victorselve8349
5 жыл бұрын
I never noticed just how much the Odyssey tumbles after being hit by the Ori weapon.
@rodriguezfamily7192
5 жыл бұрын
I miss the good scifi like this
@jedimaster0667
4 жыл бұрын
Imagine Stargate with a bigger budget and the CGI tech we have today
@joerdim
2 жыл бұрын
@@jedimaster0667 Star Trek Discovery shows how to fuck this up beyond repair.
@Jupiters1337
2 жыл бұрын
@@jedimaster0667 would be a dream come true. Imagine Marvel budget on stargate cgi
@jedimaster0667
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jupiters1337 exactlyyyyyyy
@amine98005
2 жыл бұрын
@@jedimaster0667 true waste of potential . We really need a new and fresh Stargate show.
@davidkrcil9326
2 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, the strategy was utterly terrible. If you know from where the enemy will come, why would you position youself to start the battle from the shooting angle of your enemies main weapons? Also why do they split their targets when they know the Ori's ship have powerful shields? Start with your ships aiming at the stern of your enemy's ship and all open fire at one ship at a time...
@xxZerosumxx
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Also once the gate activated they could have all started firing at the center of it. Hitting and possibly destroying the first ship
@pattheriot3963
2 жыл бұрын
A couple points: 1. This was the first engagement with Ori ships so their full capabilities were unknown. It wouldn't be until later that anyone possessed the weapons to actually destroy an Ori ship; 2. The plan was the jumpstart the super gate so that the Ori would be denied a means to enter the galaxy, not to fight a pitched battle; 3. Even with maneuvering, it's clear that the Ori ships' secondary weapons were more than capable of fending off hostile ships.
@davidkrcil9326
2 жыл бұрын
@@pattheriot3963 1. Even if, it is never a good strategy to position yourself in front of the battle starship as it is almost completely certain that main weapons will be at front. 2. Not expecting a fight doesn't seem likely, as the united fleet of multiple races is literally waiting there to fend off the Ori. 3. It is clear for you, but it wasn't for them. Their strategy is still terrible and if we try to argue that they knew, they would have no chance, then that would make the situation even dumber, because they would know that they would not slow Ori down and would only lose valuable ships (and GREAT MEN too!)... It is terrible strategy no matter what.
@pattheriot3963
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidkrcil9326 Not sure what else they could've done, especially when they were trying to blockade the super gate. You can't do a blockade using only flanking positions when your goal is to deny them freedom of movement into the galaxy. Also, they didn't yet have reason to think that their weapons wouldn't have been effective against the Ori. In fact, the Russian battlecruiser almost managed to sneak nukes onboard past their shields if they hasn't been singled out and destroyed first.
@davidkrcil9326
2 жыл бұрын
@@pattheriot3963 You can't do blockade in Space using any position. Unless you have like million starships, then all it takes for your enemy is turning a little bit and hyperspace away. And yes, exactly. They had a chance or thought to have a chance. But they decided to proceed in the most thoughtless way possible, willingly positioning themselves into the most effective attack AND defensive angle for their enemy and firing all willy nilly. Just a minor adjustment would change so much even solely based on what you said. They could've just placed the Russian battlecruiser to the flanking position and buy enought time for the nuke attack. Just this one ship in the right position might have resulted in destroying at least one ship.
@Americanpatriot-zo2tk
2 жыл бұрын
Why did they allow the four ships to get in formation the second they depart at the gate that should’ve been under fire.
@Americanpatriot-zo2tk
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the download.
@jancurda8466
2 жыл бұрын
you know they could ve just moved behind the ori ships where they would be sort of safe and could even bait the other ships attacks.
@DayneTreader
2 жыл бұрын
The Ori ships had weapons on their aft section that were still extremely powerful.
@Beyllion
Жыл бұрын
The thing I disliked most with this battle is the wrong scale used for the ship. They wanted to make the Ori ships look massive so they made every other ship the same size!! The Asgard ship is supposed to be bigger than a Ha'tak which is itself supposed to be bigger than a 304. The asgard ship looked tiny and the 304s looked too big. Also they definitely could've moved more during the battle, they all looked static. The Ori beams have been shown to miss their targets quite often. Ha'taks have turrets all around their hull so they can fired while moving. 304s mainly use missiles and they don't have to face the enemy to fire. The Asgard ship has its weapons at the front but it's more durable. The Ori ships were immobile as they should (though they've been show to be surprisingly maneuverable as show during the next episode when they attack Chulak. It's almost weird how such big ships can do tight maneuvers at max speed and manage to tail a Ha'tak).
@tomaslundstrom4622
3 жыл бұрын
So an entire fleet can't take out four flying toilet seats? Embarrassing. Not to mention the fact that they knew where the flying toilet seats were going to appear, but still chose to meet them head to head instead of attacking from behind.
@DayneTreader
2 жыл бұрын
The position of the attack wouldn't have mattered. Those ships' shields didn't take a dent.
@hansdampf9763
2 жыл бұрын
@@DayneTreader Oh, the position indeed DOES matter! You could place mines or naquada bombs as many as possible/available. The fact that not even 1 of those toilet seats has been destroyed shows the bare incompetence of the allied deciders.
@mek86
2 жыл бұрын
Its like trying to take on the ancients at the height of their power. Even the Asgard couldn't take them on.
@rotsala5126
2 жыл бұрын
@@hansdampf9763 They didn't have much time to think about it either, the mines would have been nice. Even against such a superior technology and totally unaware of its capabilities, they did not come out so badly, I mean, the stupid ones left a ship that withstood the shots of its main weapons very well. The Asgar would develop technology powerful enough to pierce their shields and the information from this battle helped them a lot, those little heads were the first to flee when they saw that their weapons were not effective against enemy shields.
@alistairrae9807
2 жыл бұрын
Watch the battle several ships do attempt to to attack from behind but one of the Ori ships turns around to deal with them also the ships are controlled by the Priors that is why it’s so hard to destroy them
@Andy-df5fj
2 жыл бұрын
Why did they wait until all the ori ships got through and entered formation before opening fire?
@kenp7814
2 жыл бұрын
The Asgard energy weapon cut through the Ori ships and shields, I wonder why they didn't here?
@notademon8257
2 жыл бұрын
I think the beam weapon was developed after this battle using data from the battle as the Asgard ship did survive the battle
@zamreda
Жыл бұрын
you know scene ori ship destroy by blowing wraith ship? must be asgard go there to copy plasma beam to study and attach at asgard system.
@DavidSaintloth
5 жыл бұрын
I hate the fact it was cut up (but I guess copyright issues need that) but wow....this battle was one of the greatest routes in sci fi tv history. We all thought the milky way was going to at least strike a kill but no.... the Ori were on some "we came from an entire galaxy away....what the fuck you thought we were playin' ?? Nah nigga." Also note how the Bilskirnir class Asguard ships couldn't even penetrate their shields (though as I understand it upgraded O'Neil class beam weapons were a match for the Ori beam weapon).
@superzentredi
2 жыл бұрын
For fucks sakes people, target the damn gate!
@CaptainSovereign
3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the stargate version of the wolf 359
@raven4k998
2 жыл бұрын
the borg did it much faster though
@hansdampf9763
2 жыл бұрын
@@raven4k998 Borg firepower was limited though. These Ori ships have almoust invinceable shields and seem to have almost limitless fire power. Unreal.
@raven4k998
2 жыл бұрын
@@hansdampf9763 how much fire power is in the stargate event horizon when it does that swoosh thing when it first opens up?
@raven4k998
2 жыл бұрын
@@hansdampf9763 are you sure about that their shield sucked against the super gate opening up on it I wonder how much power is in that thing
@hansdampf9763
2 жыл бұрын
@@raven4k998 If gate openings are almost the only way to destroy such a thing, I would call it almost invinceable. Does event horizon have uninvinceble shields at the same time? Obviously not. As I remember, they managed to destroy one single toilet seat this way. Any other ships, even kombined races, are no match for them. Unreal.
@markmool1
2 жыл бұрын
Why not start shooting and focus fire at first sight ?
@AtomeMoemoe
3 жыл бұрын
They should have kept replicators for this moment!
@SpiGAndromeda
3 жыл бұрын
And then they have replicators made of ori materials and in control of four ori ships ... I think that might be worse. Even with an anti replicator sattalite capable of hitting all the ships at once it would be pretty dangerous. What if they raise their shields? What if they adapt to the deintegration field?
@vanyac6448
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they tried that in the Ark of Truth. Which almost killed the Odyssey.
@bemasaberwyn55
2 жыл бұрын
@@vanyac6448 I was about to say this
@realLuisGiordano
2 жыл бұрын
Toilet Seat Invasion
@gerardzyber2691
Жыл бұрын
100%wewantstargate
@Sector001ked
6 жыл бұрын
Wolf 359 redux?
@maestroamonathan4279
5 жыл бұрын
Can a starfleet federation cruiser like the enterprise have a chance against the ori ship... even one on one battle🤔🤔🤔
@ThatFadedAsian
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it'd be a fair match, even against a Stargate daedalus class ship. It's just a different power scale entirely. For example the hyper drives can zip around the galaxy and even to different galaxies. It takes a Federation ship like several years just to travel through a galactic quadrant. It may be a semi- fair fight before all the Asgard plasma beam weapon upgrades and stuff after the Asgard go extinct.
@BawkBawkBawk666
2 жыл бұрын
I'd be more interested in seeing DS9 battle the Ori coming from the Gamma Quadrant
@johncunningham4820
2 жыл бұрын
@@BawkBawkBawk666 . DS9 would last all of 16 seconds against just ONE of those ORI things . Sad but True .
@nyxsis1321
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatFadedAsian Well the speed of their drives don't really matter in a one on one battle. Iirc im not sure where but pretty much any star trek cruiser from one of the big 3 races in TNG era could like decimate a planet with its weapons
@lukecollinson4327
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatFadedAsian power isn’t proportional to the speed. The speed is dictated by the method at which the vessel travels. We see this in voyager when the ship travels at slip steam for a few minutes and travels thousands of light years on the same power system as it’s conventional warp.
@livelearnandteach7402
3 жыл бұрын
Is that an Asgaurd ship? Thought they had weapons that can destroy Ori ships?
@unitedstatian
3 жыл бұрын
Appears the Asgard ship in this battle didn't have their beam technology installed, it was only firing energy blasts at them. The Asgard beam weapon that the Tauri installed also had the power of a ZPM behind it which was stronger than the Asgard power generators.
@TheValentineEnemy
2 жыл бұрын
Asgard beam weapons were developed approximately a year after this battle as an answer to the Ori ships so no, they didn't have them yet. Even when they put them on the Odyssey they haven't done any test firing with it so was a guess game if it even works or not.
@marco002
Жыл бұрын
the ori is on the same tech lvl as the ancients which is far advanced than the asgard.. the only difference between the ori and the anciencts is that the ori had to simplify their tech so their followers would understand and could build them because they were uneducated and lived a simple farmer life (so they have never ever seen anything advanced tech).. I mean you can't expect a bunch of peasants from the 15th century to build, use and maintain a modern nuclear power plant
@Martin-117
2 жыл бұрын
1:50 many see hundreds of dead Russian crew members. I see billions wasted on a brand new ship
@DavidSaintloth
5 жыл бұрын
Kneel before the power of the Ori!
@greyknight9003
3 жыл бұрын
And after this kneel to power of the asgard/Tau´ri XD
@users10116
2 жыл бұрын
@@greyknight9003 kneel before ZOD
@TurKlack
2 жыл бұрын
That Battle was already shite, when they couldn't hit stationary targets....
@Acc0rd79
2 жыл бұрын
I think this is the time that Stargate stumbled a bit, the Ori were a corny addition to the show. They were trying too hard at this point to keep it going.
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