Steve, Thank you for your postings. Really enjoy this.
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@martinvaldez8745
5 жыл бұрын
Dayton audio are a big favourite amongst DIY speaker builders and I don’t doubt for a second these sound outstanding for the price because that’s a lot of speaker for your money, but I wonder if a DIY builder has created similar using the same drivers etc and managed to build something better? Anyhow I’m happy that you’ve reviewed a lower end of the scale budget speaker Steve and I love the channel 👍🏻
@petejilka968
5 жыл бұрын
Parts Express has the "Tritrix" DIY speaker kit for less than $300. It is also a transmission line speaker, although the Tritrix is a MTM design. You get the parts and so you build everything including the crossover and the box. I veneered my set with wood veneer and finished them so that added a bit to the cost. Very good sounding speaker!
@petejilka968
5 жыл бұрын
There is also a DIY kit from Parts Express called the Solstice MLTL Reference Tower. Bit more expensive at $540, but has more expensive parts. This kit has the TMM config same as the speaker in the review. You can search KZitem and find the videos explaining how to assemble the kit.
@DonStrenz
5 жыл бұрын
@@petejilka968 I too have had my eye on the Solstice's. They are $540 EACH though, which is quite a bit more expensive than the ones reviewed. But, the parts are excellent (Morel speakers), and the reviews of the Solstices I've seen say they sound like $3k-$4k speakers. Because most of the reviews I've read are mostly by owners, they could be (subconsciously) biased, after putting all the work into them to build the kit. I'd like to see an unbiased review of them by Steve but we can't expect him to build a pair to test. If they do sound as good as the reviews purport, I think the only downside is that their resale value wouldn't be very good.
@TheRockerxx69
5 жыл бұрын
when I saw them a month ago, I felt they were good, and now you confirm it, love Transmission Line.
@dilbyjones
5 жыл бұрын
TheRockerxx69 I’m looking into transmission line but with full rangers
@martybee6648
5 жыл бұрын
The cost for great sound is at an all Time low - Steve you’re a legend ...
@daniel85444
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve ! Thank for the all every day reviews and helping others with your knowledge !
@seanmangan2769
5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see affordable speakers still available, kinda like the Dynaco a25s or AR18s used to be.
@jeffadams9699
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting about these Steve. It's a GREAT time to be an audiophile or just an average guy who wants better sound. Because the stuff they are coming out with these days is blowing my mind. I was all over these Dayton Audio transmission line speakers about a week ago. A guy on one of my forums suggested them. I have my main system that consists of ZU Audio Dirty Weekends but have been looking for speakers for my two channel office system that didn't take up a lot of room or cost a lot of money. These look to be just that. Pair this with the Allo Volt+D Class D amplifier, my $40 brand new SACD player I bought at a pawn store and my Yamaha WXC-50 pre, that's an audiophile two channel system for under $700! If you get a chance Steve, check out Allo, they are making some amazing gear for very little money. Especially their Class D amps. Real good stuff.
@fiolds350
4 жыл бұрын
I've been using dayton for a long time. Hidden gem
@randybryant2912
5 жыл бұрын
Would love if you did a review on the new tube preamp/class D amp Dayton released. I'd like hearing your opinion on it.
@tellthemborissentyou
5 жыл бұрын
I have had the Elacs for 3 weeks now and I love them. I even love the cheap hardware store speaker wire I connected them with.
@jamesmachado9366
5 жыл бұрын
Bought a set of these speakers last month. They rock. I was hoping that Steve would review them, accurate review Steve. Only 87dB so they need some power to do their best. Much better than the Dayton speaker that Stereophile rated class C.
@weeooh1
5 жыл бұрын
I have a pair of Dayton ribbon bookshelf speakers. And of course the hope that they may one day incorporate the ribbon tweeter in some future design of the 442t.
@67spankadelik
5 жыл бұрын
I really have no business looking at new speakers. I already have a decent stable. But this however looks interesting.
@thomshere
5 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to sincerely thank you for all the wonderful reviews over the years. I have trusted your opinions and so far have not been let down especially with your budget audio buys. You really have saved me (and I am sure so very many others) a ton of money over the years, so thank you, thank you thank you!
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
5 жыл бұрын
thoms_here Thank you!
@jnagarya519
4 жыл бұрын
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Send the savings to me -- I hold Steve's money for him. :]
@hansmayer7814
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great review Steve. I've also discovered so many cool bands/albums based on your test tracks and albums.
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@tornadotj2059
5 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see how much better they are with the AMT tweeter they use in the B652-AIR
@yournightmare9999
5 жыл бұрын
Nice mini floorstanding speaker
@Michael-xz1nk
5 жыл бұрын
What a value for $228 / pair. Wow!!!
@MrPhins
5 жыл бұрын
I was impressed the Elac Debut 2.0 B6.2s are only $239 right now. Amazing deal.
@stephencosta6814
5 жыл бұрын
Kick ass taking no prisoners I like that LOL very good review Steve
@ricknelsonm
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve, for the review
@timschutte6924
3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to eventually get a pair of these . They also gave me a great idea on some new ( diy) speakers that I want to make. I know that there is an insane amount of mathematics involved in figuring out the spacing with the internal chambers. I'm just going to spend an awful amount of time on ( trial & error ) Experimenting to get the best sound. Proof is in the EARS !!!!!!!! thanks again for another great review Steve.!!!!!!!!!
@VinylRundown
5 жыл бұрын
Steve pls do a video about the economics and ethics of the chinese stuff- your thoughts on the effect on the biz...
@cmflyer
5 жыл бұрын
I have been wondering if there are any manufacturers of drivers like woofers and tweeters anywhere but Asia these days. This would mean that most of the high end gear would have imported parts. My latest buys have been Dayton Audio, and I love them, but do my vintage Cambridge, PSB, and RSL speakers have imported drivers, and does it matter?
@VinylRundown
5 жыл бұрын
Craig Messerman plenty in Scandanavia and Canada, right? Cheap stuff is tempting...
@grinningintheirface2685
4 жыл бұрын
Doesnt matter what country they are from. They are all luciferian corporations owned by a few bloodline families, and ran by their little puppet minions....period.
@Philo1
5 жыл бұрын
Steve, please review, if you can, the Dynaudio xeo 6 or 30 actives, would be interesting to know if they can really compete with same price range passives with separate amp. Thanks for your work.
@chuckheinze7
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been impressed with the quality of Dayton Audio. I purchased the 100 amp hybrid tube amp and love it. Do a review on it.
@carybaxter274
5 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a price for a well-reviewed speaker! Now if I could only see a frequency response curve. Some people love a dip in the upper midrange, but not me. I want to know if this has an upper midrange dip that some people like and some people hate. Cudos for reviewing affordable equipment.
@differentname8051
5 жыл бұрын
Got some old B&W DM2 transmission line speakers from the early seventies and they have deep bass too, only an 8 inch woofer. Celestion tweeter and Coles super tweeter deal with the top end nicely.
@20CycleMonger
5 жыл бұрын
Wow. I love transmission line speakers. Could not believe the bass range of the original Rega Ela's. So when I found a set of Rega Naos, I snapped them up. 27hz from an 8in driver? Still use stereo REL subs for impact, but on their own they have a natural ease of delivery ( with acoustic instruments at least ). I will recommend these to a young friend ;-)
@Gregor7677
5 жыл бұрын
That’s a good company. Lucky for me, about 15 minutes from my home.
@roberttroxell4006
5 жыл бұрын
About 30 minutes from me! Thought about going to listen to these in person.
@BenHodgeThemeParkEndeavor
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the Dayton MK442T compare to the Polk Audio T50?
@carolineleonard8214
5 жыл бұрын
Nice one Steve. If available this side of the pond I would add them to my list of items for audio beginners (kept for when I get asked about where to start in this hobby of ours).
@billschnaars9852
5 жыл бұрын
Steve, I have my Dahlquist 909 speakers in a room that is 20' x 23' (kitchen dining room combination). The room has wood floors, 7 Windows and one sliding door. I bought the speakers back in 1988 from Innovative audio in Brooklyn and love these speakers. The problem is that for me to enjoy the speakers I have to turn the volume up a bit loud. Its not really practical considering the action in the room, so I was wondering if you could suggest a modern day speaker that would have a similar sound as the Dahlquists when played at lower volumes. I know your a big fan of the Elac (as are many other folks) and was wondering if the B5, B6 or ELAC - Uni-Fi 5-1/4" Passive 3-Way Floor Speaker would fit the bill for that size room. I would appreciate any advice you could provide. Thank you Bill
@vcp93
5 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve, the Elacs are available at Amazon for $239, so it's not like these speakers are beating out a higher class speaker...."right"?
@griff8169
5 жыл бұрын
Good work Steve
@andreasleonlandgren3092
5 жыл бұрын
Good sound
@nd011
5 жыл бұрын
I was interested to hear also how they compare to that q acoustics 3050 sitting in the background!
@dropthehammer1360
5 жыл бұрын
Neil D'Souza 3050i, and yes, I want to hear his opinion on them as well!
@al_kaloid
5 жыл бұрын
same
@dropthehammer1360
5 жыл бұрын
I just read Steve's review on the 3050is on CNET. Check it out.
@conchobar
5 жыл бұрын
That price is insane. People pay more for White Van speakers.
@stephenmcbride6359
4 жыл бұрын
What were your'e favorite diy speakers. As in design'ed and built, hand made.
@EirkenElite
5 жыл бұрын
They kind of remind me of a diy totem arro.... They look like Daytona version of the dyna drivers and I have bought replacement peer less tweeters from express
@25-8
5 жыл бұрын
I tried their bookshelf speakers and one blew out smh I hardly used it and gave it to my mom so she could have a decent system to listen to and when I fired it up, the left speaker didn’t sound no more. I tried multiple amps and knew it was the speaker... I wouldn’t trust this company again, that’s why they are so cheap but the value is bang for buck! Make sure you get warranty. I bought it from a diff seller and couldn’t even return on time, I really only listened to them for like 10-15 times and at normal listening levels because it is a small 4” woofer and will distort quickly if fed too much power so I was very careful and don’t even like listening to music loud
@salmonline
5 жыл бұрын
So pairing these with the Pioneer 4"ers in a 5.1 system should work out well?
@amitdolas3166
5 жыл бұрын
Hi sir with all due respect will u plz let me know which budget amp or avr should i attach for these for good quality sound
@RamisDad
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, thanks for the great reviews! Can you please explain what you mean by sweet top end with regards to treble?
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
5 жыл бұрын
Soft treble, laid back, lacking in detail.
@jnagarya519
4 жыл бұрын
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac I got treble detail when just new and played Fleetwood Mac's "The Dance" DVD. Heard highs I'd never heard before.
@thomasshi8863
4 жыл бұрын
Curious how these Daytons compared to the budget king Pioneer FS52
@jurriaanvile5526
3 жыл бұрын
Hi @steveguttenberg, Would these be sufficient replacers for my old Philips MFB's (2 way/22AH586)? I have a pretty big room (u-shaped, listening area 25' deep x 20' wide). And would these speakers be good for HiRes (heard imaging/soundstage was very good), also with the use of a plate amplifier (Hypex FA251, 250W class D) and Nubert nuConnecyt trX?
@fredbissnette3104
5 жыл бұрын
Super!
@randomtube8226
5 жыл бұрын
These are definitely musical speakers. They are forgiving with poor recordings. The amount of sound they put out for their size is impressive. It would be even better if they came out with a bigger size like 1in tweeter or amt, dual 6.5 per speaker and for around $300.
@br1878
Жыл бұрын
Oddly, these speakers pair well with my low powered SE amp, at least for near field listening.
@DenisZ2023
5 жыл бұрын
Dayton MK442T vs Pioneer SP-FS52 vs Dayton T652-AIR? i was ready to buy T652-AIR then saw this review. So i thought ok these are better but then in the comments it sounds like Steve prefers SP-FS52 over these. makes the title of this video confusing. Steve, which ones would be better to use as all around speaker? listen to music and watch movies. i will be using a Klipsch KSW 10" subwoofer with these.
@deekay2
5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like these speakers are lip-smacking good!
@ianyates7742
5 жыл бұрын
Try q caustics speakers I think you will like them
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
5 жыл бұрын
Ian Yates I have, please google my reviews.
@wedie2soon
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I just ordered these Dayton speakers without realizing that they're rated at 4ohms. I have a Yamaha natural sound receiver that's rated at 8ohms. Is this going to be a problem?
@christophstuwe4330
10 ай бұрын
Did they work well together with the yamaha?
@CreamyBone
5 жыл бұрын
$199 on Sept '19 ;)
@amitdolas3166
5 жыл бұрын
My budget is 300 dollars which tower speaker is the best with bass n rich quality sound n twitters plz help me sir
@BonniGyanesh
3 жыл бұрын
Sir what is size length width and deep please reply me
@dougg1075
5 жыл бұрын
Yep
@LeWpD
5 жыл бұрын
Can anyone suggest an affordable amp that will power these well?
@mikedinno8413
4 жыл бұрын
Polk Audio T50??
@WindomRettes
5 жыл бұрын
Would you say the Dayton's sound similar to the Pioneer SP-FS52 ?
@Enemji
5 жыл бұрын
steal threaded - You have it wrong. The Pioneer FS52 sound muted because of the grill. Remove the grill or punch a hole in it to let the high frequency pass through undisturbed. Check out the comparison here kzitem.info/news/bejne/qZl7tYl8cIWgl6Q
@LeoRousseau
5 жыл бұрын
I would love to replace the stock tweeters on the FS-52's but don't want to have to mess with the crossover. Anyone know of a direct replacement tweeter? Mine sound muted with the grills off. I'm really missing my PSB'S 😥
@StanTheObserver-lo8rx
5 жыл бұрын
I don't see you doing anything with subwoofers..either as a part of the system or augmenting. I guess you are anti 3 speaker systems?
@victorsixtythree
5 жыл бұрын
Steve did a video about his thoughts on using a subwoofer for music: kzitem.info/news/bejne/pIStsIOOsH-Uqm0
@soulshinobi
5 жыл бұрын
Damn it, am I going to have to replace my Pioneer SP-FS52 (mk.2 by Andrew Jones)?
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
5 жыл бұрын
soulshinobi no
@soulshinobi
5 жыл бұрын
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac all right good, close call.
@Enemji
5 жыл бұрын
for those who actually want a sound comparison, check out Joe N Tell here kzitem.info/news/bejne/qZl7tYl8cIWgl6Q
@johnsweda2999
5 жыл бұрын
are you running that with DSP not built-in is it
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
5 жыл бұрын
John sweda No DSP. It’s not a powered speaker.
@ziggy8757
5 жыл бұрын
do they get down to 30 hz? how low can they sound
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
5 жыл бұрын
ziggy8757 No, 4 inch drivers to have their limitations.
@Stikibits
5 жыл бұрын
So let us hear it. It'd be heaps more useful than just listening to some fella bang on.
@scottyo64
5 жыл бұрын
You must not follow the channel or you would know why he doesn't play music tracks.
@scottyo64
5 жыл бұрын
You must not follow the channel or you would know why.
@Stikibits
5 жыл бұрын
@@scottyo64 Nope, I wouldn't say I'm a big follower of the channel because he just blabs on never let's us hear the gear.
@williamlau7179
4 жыл бұрын
When these pair of new speakers sounded that good. Waiting til you run-in them in 6 month or a year. I dislike to listen to music with new speakers. The highs and mid range sound too harsh and the bass is too stiff and short. The wait is too painful to the ears in my rooms even for a pair of nice sounding speakers. My TV took about 7 months to sound "good", not surprising.
@dilbyjones
5 жыл бұрын
HomeRUN!
@bk6678
5 жыл бұрын
Similar to Pioneer FS 52?
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
5 жыл бұрын
MK442T is less bright, with more and better defined bass
@soulshinobi
5 жыл бұрын
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Wow, answers my question. Thanks!
@wilmah8565
5 жыл бұрын
Answered mine as well.
@ryanschipp8513
5 жыл бұрын
Steve, how do they compare to the Pioneer SPFS52's?
@meshplates
5 жыл бұрын
Amazingly low price. Too bad you can't find em in Europe, as far as I know.
@audiogurulyndon
5 жыл бұрын
Check out parts@tech-express.com ask for overseas sales.
@meshplates
5 жыл бұрын
@@audiogurulyndon thank you but that site seems to have nothing to do with audio.
@audiogurulyndon
5 жыл бұрын
@@meshplates just 'Parts-express.com' not link highlighted in blue . Lol!
@FND1337
5 жыл бұрын
Check out Soundimports.eu. They'll get you covered.
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
5 жыл бұрын
People should know you need at least 80 watts of class A/b to have good headroom with these speakers, These speakers are hard to drive or to sound good on music with a regular AVR that's class D if people use a class D AVR the Daytona will sound very thin ! Pioneer fs52 is still king at price point hell the fs52 to me sounds better than elacs f5.2 towers Andrew hit a home run with the Pioneer f52s just keeping it real for folks no jive turkey here !
@LeoRousseau
5 жыл бұрын
TJ McDonald I just got a pair of the FS-52's a few weeks ago and I am completely disappointed in them unfortunately. In my opinion, they seem overly warm sounding with almost no detail in the upper registry. I wish that they sounded better. I'm using a Schitt Modi 2 Uber with Morrow MA-1 interconnect to an Nad 316 bee to Morrow SP-1 speaker cables. I am going to try some SP-4's that I have hanging around and see if that helps with the sound signature a little, but other than that I don't know what to do. I may end up trying to sell them. I'm also wondering if it could be the Schitt Modi? If anyone has any constructive criticism, I'm all ears. Thanks!
@LeoRousseau
5 жыл бұрын
TJ McDonald, I also have my treble cranked.
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
5 жыл бұрын
pioneer's are a lil power hungry and rated at 6 ohms do you have your integrated amo set at 6ohms? at I believe 135 watts !
@jamesbrotherton5487
5 жыл бұрын
I know you're a professional reviewer and all but if you're going to compare speakers shouldn't they a least be at the same height?
@Saboda53
5 жыл бұрын
james brotherton I would guess the answer is ‘no’; most bookshelf speakers are designed to be set with tweeter at ear height (when seated), while tower speakers are obviously as tall as the designer wants them to be.
@jamesbrotherton5487
5 жыл бұрын
@@Saboda53 Ear heights vary no? Generally a tweeter should be at ear height whether it's a tower or a bookshelf. You adjust your chair height or the speaker height accordingly. At least that's what I would do (among other things) when comparing speakers. In the end though, these are cheap speakers whose target buyer usually doesn't worry about such things.
@jontywoods7300
5 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve I’m wondering if you have an email I’d love to ask you about these speakers I have that are quite rare
@jamiemcneil9462
5 жыл бұрын
There is truth to the old adage, "If it sounds too good to be true, it most likely isn't." "You get what you pay for," usually proves true as well. And then there is this classic, " A sucker is born every minute."
@carltoncotter2614
5 жыл бұрын
PT Barnum did say "there is a sucker born every minute", but the real truth is that in the audio business, there is a PT Barnum born every minute. The life changing benefits of Shakti stones, micro vibration control technologies and six figure speakers and cables are too good to be true. A decent sounding pair of speakers for < $300 is not.
@TheFriday40
5 жыл бұрын
any recommendations for integrated amp to go with Elac's B6.2''s ?..currently using Topping MX3
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
5 жыл бұрын
NAD C 316BEE V2
@TheFriday40
5 жыл бұрын
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac THANKS!
@groggycl
5 жыл бұрын
Vs pioneer fs52??
@Enemji
5 жыл бұрын
Enrique Diaz Feldman - Pioneer FS52 is better and cheaper. Actual sound comparison here kzitem.info/news/bejne/qZl7tYl8cIWgl6Q
@scottlowell493
5 жыл бұрын
Goes to show how overpriced other Asian made "name" products are. If this was Polk, they would be less impressive and $499 a pair. Looks like Dayton has some very good parts at that price point.
@bobc3895
5 жыл бұрын
A few years back I bought a pair of Chane tower speakers. For the price the sound very good, they cost me $400 ea plus $50 shipping from Nevada, Each speaker weighs about 50#'s, they are 41" tall and have 3ea 5" LF drivers, a 5" midrange and a folded ribbon tweeter. They have a nice smooth treble and very good bass for such a small tower. I replaced a pair of stand mounted DynAudio's and am happy with my choice. These were made in China and you had to subscribe to the build, when they came across the pond you gave them a credit card and they shipped them out. These are not available from dealers, you have to order them from Chane directly. I bought the C models and they have been replaced with the D models. I'd love to be able to compare them with similar sized towers www.chanemusiccinema.com/A5.4
@bootsarmstrong8421
4 жыл бұрын
$228 / pair? Most of the crossover parts are probably really cheap. Now on the other hand, I bought a pair of Yamaha speakers at the thrift store for $6.00 (they were the surrounds for the complete system) and they sound really good. Vocals are really smooth and they are surprisingly detailed. No bass, but I can live with 100Hz on up for awhile. Best little purchase I've ever made.
@AmericanSmallArms
Жыл бұрын
Please share the location of the thrift store where I can get the $6 Yamahas. Thank you.
@OMG_BeCkY
5 жыл бұрын
Surprised they can build and ship them for that price. Must be junk.
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